Unlike Big Tent Democrat, I don't care about a joint ticket with Obama and Hillary. As I said this morning, if Hillary wants it, I think he should offer it to her. If she doesn't, she certainly should not feel obligated to take it just so she brings him more votes.

That said, here are three reasons I think Obama will not offer it to her regardless of what she wants. I don't agree with a single one but I'lll raise them for your reactions:

1. Both racism and sexism are very much alive in this country. He fears there are too many voters who who would never vote for a woman and another set who wouldn't vote for an African-American candidate. He wants time to conduct polling and if the polling shows his campaign would suffer by giving both groups a reason to leave the Democratic party, he won't choose Hillary. [More...]

Here's a place to continue the discussion.

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Don't be a blogclogger, be civil and remember we are not discussing anticipated smears on any candidates or their family members.

This space is for your comments, not for reprinting articles from elsewhere, press releases etc. Don't try to use TalkLeft as an organizing ground for your pet causes or movements. It's a site for news, discussion, commentary and analysis. Don't put email addresses and phone numbers and long lists of contacts in the contacts. We don't have the bandwidth and no one is interested in scrolling through them.

I'll be cleaning the threads as I have time, don't bother responding to the violators, just point them out.

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Tina Turner Above, Lenny Kravitz below

Hillary asked for you thoughts as to what she should do? Let's hear them, I'll send them to her campaign.

Our other threads are full (and I still haven't made it to the jail but I'm trying) so here's another one.

Blogcloggers don't bother, your comments will be erased when I return.

• South Dakota thread here

• Montana Thread here

Suddenly the pressures fallin, fallin
Skies have all turned grey
Suddenly the storm is heading straight your way

Its like a full force gale
Atop a mountain of cold
You tell your story again and again
And it never gets old
Its like a wall of mirrors
You charge em at full speed
You cover up - you hear the shattering glass
But you never bleed

Storms pass. I'm off to the jail for several hours. This is an open thread, all topics welcome.

Comments now closed.

Courtesy of TL reader Cream City, we have a new name for the recent influx of visitors who are clogging up the threads with multiple comments in an attempt to dominate, hijack or otherwise disrupt the conversation: Blogcloggers.

Blogcloggers are not welcome here. New users are limited to 10 comments in 24 hours and they must abide by our comment rules. More below, but if you don't like the policy, as the song says, Get Over It.

R.I.P. Bo Diddley who has died at age 79. Video of Mona with Tom Petty here and with Ron Wood from the Stones here.

This is an open thread.

Yves Saint Laurent has died at 71. He is credited with, among other things, introducing the pantsuit to American women. Above is one of his jackets I loved to wear.

Since Geraldo was on tv tonight saying Hillary got "screwed" yesterday by the DNC, that she has won the popular vote and is the better candidate, I thought I'd share this photo of Geraldo and me from 1998 in which I'm wearing the pictured YSL jacket.

R.I.P. Mr. Saint Laurent. I really did love your clothes. This is a late night open thead, but see the caveat below [More...]:

I'm taking the afternoon off from blogging. Here's two of my favorites, the first from the 9/11/ Concert for New York City that seem appropriate today -- the Goo Goo Dolls "American Girl" and the second, my favorite version of BonJovi's "Living on a Prayer", from the 2005 Live Aid concert.

Also, John Rzeznik and Jon Bon Jovi are two of my favorite faces to look at.

This is an open thread, all topics welcome.

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I'll be at the jail the rest of the afternoon. Here's an open thread. Just step over the hate-stuff that is really piling up out there in the blogosphere. They manufacture and misrepresent what others write when the others don't share their views. Tolerance? Unfortunately, it's sorely lacking. [More...]

Your turn. This is an Open Thread.

Oh just one thing, if you are fine with the what is said by the Rev. Pfleger in the video I post below, then just say so. I am surprised at the outrage at those of us commenting on it while no outrage from those commenters is aimed at the words of Rev. Pfleger.

BTD

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