I'd be interested to hear what others think.

What a joke, I dunno what's worse, a traditional dictator, or a dictator who pretends to be an elected president.

I can list a dozen reasons I don't support Obama, none of them having anything to do with his race. I can also list ways that race has benefitted him, as well as ways it has made his race more of a challenge. I guess it bothers me that race has become such an issue in this campaign, and I believe that Obama's campaign has made it an issue. I hate that the Clinton's were tarred as racists. It was sleazy, Rovian. I was reading about the infamous race memo the other day, and I actually saw comments by Obmaa spokespeople suggesting that the memo was valid, even as his campaign officially denounced it. That memo set set the tone for the campaign. It was effective. Obama supporter's still cite Bill Clinton's "racist" attacks in NC and Hillary's "racist" reference to Johnson pasing the Civil Rights Act as the deciding factors in their supporting Obama. Since then, any reference to race by a Clinton supporter has been spun as race-baiting, even if it was merely stating that white voters weren't sold on Obama. Axelrods astroturfers had a lot to do with this. They flooded the web with every campaign meme (did you notice how the ideas started at a lot of locations simultaneously, instead of gradually spreading through the web like normal ideas?). It still annoys me that people say that Obama's campaign never said anything nasty about Clinton, when they did so repeatedly.

I a sick of the lemming mentality.  

For the strength of character she displays, it is hard to understand what the underlying force is that is causing these people to jump off their own principles for this incapable candidate.

That is one of the places where your decisions cannot be appealed, and she can use her intellectual capacity, her familiarity w/progressive and gender issues, and her tenacity to convince other justices there. This will be akin to T.Marshall and how he was able to move the Court on civil rights issues, or Ginsburg on gender issues.
Moreover, it is a shame that a country where women make up 53% of the population only has one on the SC.

This drives me crazy.  I want to be excited about Obama, and when I hear these stories from the people "around him" it makes me think the must be Donna Brazile clones.

And rightly so.  The thought gives me warm fuzzies.

It is really important to remember that when you throw gasoline on a fire repeatedly and stoke it with all kinds of kindling, the fire is going to be difficult to put out.  People really should think before they do this sort of thing whether or not they will find it useful to have anything salvagable left in the ashes.

it is sort of encouraging to see people like this one and the ones that run this blog try to keep the lid on.
its going to get harder and harder.
IMO.

Good thing the Dems have Hillary to blame for EVERYTHING, or they'd have to own up to their own failures.  Hillary Clinton is going to become the Roe v. Wade of the Democrats.  Too dang useful to get rid of, even if they want to.

She's much more powerful now than she was two years ago; with Ted Kennedy sick, she will be the most important senator in the next Senate. Obama will either be president or back in the Senate, but diminished by losing.

Must reading for Hillary faithful.

Well, I can relieve his anxiety and answer his questions:  Probably and NO

It was necessary to keep a good supply of cannon balls near the cannon on old war ships. But how to prevent them from rolling about the deck was the problem.
The best storage method devised was to stack them as a square based pyramid, with one ball on top, resting on four, resting on nine, which rested on sixteen.
Thus, a supply of 30 cannon balls could be stacked in a small area right next to the cannon. There was only one problem -- how to prevent the bottom layer from sliding/rolling from under the others. The solution was a metal plate with 16 round indentations, called a Monkey. But if this plate were made of iron, the iron balls would quickly rust to it. The solution to the rusting problem was to make Brass Monkeys.
Few landlubbers realize that brass contracts much more and much faster than iron when chilled. Consequently, when the temperature dropped too far, the brass indentations would shrink so much that the iron cannon balls would come right off the monkey.
Thus, it was quite literally, cold enough to freeze the balls off a brass monkey. And all this time, you thought that was a vulgar expression, didn't you?

I don't think personal attacks on either Obama or Clinton are helpful.  I am from the invisible demographic----a middle-aged AA woman.  Voted for WJC first term and did not vote for him second term.  I understand how many of the people on this site feel and I am not trying to add insult to injury.  I have only troll rated if I felt the comment was beyond the pale not if I disagree.  

Obama trolls do so much damage to their man.

This kind of role for her would persuade more of her voters to support Obama than a VP slot

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080606/ap_on_el_pr/political_play_of_the_day

He's sure not doing the party any good with his appearances lately.

Wednesday, June 4, 2008
Enough, Reprised (with breaking news of Clinton's candidacy)