The weather's too nice in Denver to stay indoors. For those of you online, if you've got something to say, here's a place. As always, please keep it civil.

By Big Tent Democrat

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I just ran across this story about how Donna Brazile continues her seeming drive to beat Speaker Pelosi for the "most divisive Dem" prize:

By Big Tent Democrat

I do not link enough to Bob Somerby. I thought this was pretty funny:

This week, we emitted a low, mordant chuckle at one part of this David Sirota piece, to which we’d been linked by the person who has kidnapped Josh Marshall.

Some days I feel like the entire Left blogosphere has been kidnapped.

I'll be out and about today. If you've got something to talk about, here's a place. Please be civil.

Tonight is the BSG premiere. So who is the unrevealed Cylon? Guesses only. No spoilers. This is an Open Thread. I won't be around but J should be back later.

By Big Tent Democrat

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It's official. TPM's M.J. Rosenberg murders irony when he writes:

Krugman is making two big mistakes. The first has to do with his influence as a columnist. By constantly attacking Obama, he is turning off the 50% of Democrats who favor Obama as our nominee. People like me can no longer read him without thinking "What's up with this guy? Has he really developed such a personal animus to our likely nominee based on his differences with him on health care? What's his agenda here?"

(Emphasis supplied.) Yes, Paul Krugman has substantive critiques of Barack Obama and he loses Obama fanboys like the ones writing a TPM. The shallow, fallacious and empty attacks on Hillary Clinton by TPM, not to mention the legion of Obama supporters from Senators on down, is sure to make for a wonderfully unified Democratic Party. Writing from the TPM glass house with its tattered reputation, Rosenberg chooses to throw stones at Paul Krugman? Yes, irony is now dead and buried. More . . .

I've got jail visits today. There's lots of new posts up from last night, or you can use this thread to pick the topics. If you see our troll from yesterday, e-mail me so I can log on and delete her.

Oh, and keep it civil please.

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By Big Tent Democrat

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Obama supporter Jonathan Singer cites approvingly to the news that Obama supporters are backing Speaker Pelosi's divisive comments:

[S]everal major Obama donors called Speaker Pelosi and DCCC chair Chris Van Hollen asking how they could be helpful. . . . Mark Gorenberg, a member of Obama’s national finance team, and a long-time DCCC fundraiser, met with Pelosi last Friday.

Unlike Singer, I am bothered by the fact that Obama supporters have backed Pelosi's divisiveness. It is incredibly shortsighted. We will need a united Party in November and Pelosi has been as harmful a Party Elder as we have seen. Her reaction is predictable:

Hard to believe the last open thread is already filled. There was lots of talk about what we're watching instead of MSNBC and cable news. American Idol seemed to be a favorite, it's on now.

BTD just signed off for the night -- until I'm done with dinner and can post some substantive stuff, here's a place to continue your discussions -- all topics welcome.

By Big Tent Democrat

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I realize that I have not watched Keith Olbermann's show for a while now. I wonder if it is still the same anti-Hillary fest? I also wonder what people who have not been watching him lately who used to be regular watchers (like I once was) are watching now, if anything. Let me know what you are watching now.

This is an Open thread.

Update (TL):Comments now closed, a new open thread is up for you to continue your discussions.

By Big Tent Democrat

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Josh Marshall writes about the demographics of the Dem race:

The problem is in states with substantial but not particularly large African-American populations in which you have a deep-seated and pre-existing racial politics that ends up playing in Clinton's favor. This, if the theory is right, would explain why Obama does well in the Mountain West and the South but has a harder time in states like Pennsylvania and Ohio. . . . But I don't think it adequately deals with all the admittedly small set of data we have. How, for instance, does it account for Obama's victories in Missouri, Maryland, Virginia, Connecticut among other states? . .

This is an issue we have explored in great detail here at Talk Left. For example here. Josh seems unfamiliar with the exit poll data. I am surprised he is pointing to Missouri as the counterpoint, since it actually is in line with the data in other bigger states. Wisconsin (with Virginia) was Obama's best results with white voters in bigger states. More . . .

By Big Tent Democrat

Here is another wrongheaded post from Chris Bowers. He evaluates the unifying effects of the Vice Presidential choice on the effect it will have on supporters of the potential Presidential nominee. Earth to Chris, the people who will need assuaging will be the losing candidate's supporters, not the winning candidate's supporters.

I have to shake my head sometimes. This is an Open Thread. Play nice. J, Chris and I will be out of pocket until tonight.

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