The 11 Show, starring me, will discuss last night's debate and Mitt Romney's presentation of a "humble foreign policy" last night in the mold of George W. Bush in 2000. Romney's lack of interest and knowledge was on shocking display last night.It was George W. Bush all over again. And Romney is advised by the same crew that brought us the most disastrous 8 years in the history of American foreign policy.

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,P. Update: CBS snap poll: 53% of uncommitted voters say Obama won. 23% Romney.

In a poll of 521 uncommitted voters conducted immediately after the final presidential debate, 53% of these said President Obama was the winner, 23% think Romney won, another 24% feel the debate was a tie.

Mitt's Pinocchio moment: The Apology Tour whopper. Washington Post: "Every fact checker has said the so-called ‘apology tour” did not happen. Here is the Fact Checker’s look at the 4-Pinocchio claim." [More...]

The third and final debate is about to begin. The New York Times says voters don't really care about foreign policy, they are looking for leadership qualities.

In polls this year, voters have practically screamed at the top of their lungs how little they care about foreign policy. In recent polls of three battleground states, Colorado, Virginia and Wisconsin, fewer than 10 percent of voters in each state said national security was the most important issue to them, ranking below the economy, deficit and health care.

On NBC just now, in between the Mitt Romney ads tonight, there was a great ad in support of Amendment 64 and the legalization of marijuana.

And here we go, updates below.

I'm sorry, but I have a situation that has come up that will prevent my live blogging tonight's debate. Sorry about that.

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The 11 Show, starring me, will discuss tonight's debate.

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Martha Moxley and her neighbor Michael Skakel, nephew of Ethel Kennedy, were both 15 in 1975, the year Moxley was murdered. No one was charged with the murder until 25 years later. Skakel, then age 40 was charged, tried and convicted as an adult. He was sentenced to an indeterminate sentence of 20 years to life. He is now 52, and having served 10 years of the minimum 20 year sentence, he is eligible for parole in April. A parole hearing is scheduled for October 24. The Moxley family is objecting. Mrs. Moxley wants him jailed for life.

At the time Martha Moxley was murdered, and until 1976, CT had a five year statute of limitations. In 2010, in affirming Skakel's conviction, the CT Supreme Court overruled precedent of more than 20 years, and held the 1976 amendment could apply retroactively to Skakel. Here is the 89 page majority opinion. Skakel's petition for cert to the U.S. Supreme Court, written by former Solicitor General Ted Olson, was denied. [More...]

Read Bob Stein's wonderful piece on the day President Kennedy announced to the American People the presence of nuclear weapons in Cuba.

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George McGovern has passed away.

By all accounts, he was a good and decent man.

May he rest in peace after living a full life, filled with accomplishments and service.

Sooo, HOW ABOUT THEM GATORS!!!!!!!!!!!

I woke up this morning, and my thoughts returned to politics and, I thought, maybe I'll watch the Sunday shows. So I went to see who would be on, Atrios:

Face the Nation has Rubio, Kevin NotJohn Madden, Stephanie "I Will F[*]ck Your Shit Up" Cutter, Nooners, Sangers, Kleiners, Dickensoners

This Week has that asshole Rahm, Rubio, Debbie W-S, America's Pastor Ralph Reed, Van HitlerStalinPolPot Jones, Greta Van, Matty Dowd.

Meet the Press has AN EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW WITH RUBIO MUST CREDIT MEET THE PRESS, America's sweetheart Rob Portman, Zombie Dee Dee Myers, Zombie Mike Murphy, The Moustache of Understanding, Helene Cooper.

Really? I mean really? Sanger, ok. But Ralph Reed, Peggy Noonan, The Moustache, Mike Murphy? Is this freaking 1996? They were terrible then and they are terrible AND irrelevant now.

So no, I'll watch Newcastle-Sunderland instead.

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Many "investments" today (2 units unless otherwise indicated):

Baylor +9 over Texas, Miami (Florida) +21 over Florida State, Penn State +3 over Iowa, Alabama (-20) over Tennessee, Oklahoma -35 over Kansas (3 units), North Carolina -10½ over Duke (5 units), Notre Dame -14 over BYU, Navy -3 over Indiana, Tulsa -22 over Rice, Kentucky +27 over Georgia, Louisville -6 over South Florida (4 units), Michigan State +9 over Michigan, TCU +2 over Texas Tech (5 units), UNLV +28 over Boise State, Bowling Green -18 over Massachusetts, Temple +4½ over Rutgers (3 units), Purdue +19 over Ohio State (3 units), Virginia Tech +8½ over Clemson, Stanford -3 over California, Northwestern +7 over Nebraska (3 units), Wisconsin -17 over Minnesota, Army -3 over Eastern Michigan, LSU -3½ over Texas A&M, Northern Illinois -17 over Akron, Maryland +3 over North Carolina State (4 units), Iowa State +14 over Oklahoma State (4 units), Boston College +14 over Georgia Tech (4 units).

Late edition - South Carolina +3 1/2 over Florida. Nonetheless, GO Gators!

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The new judge in the George Zimmerman case agreed to issue defense subpoenas for Trayvon Martin's school records and social media account records, as well as the social media accounts of witness #8 "Dee Dee", the phone friend of Trayvon, who says she was on the phone with him just before the shooting. You can watch the Judge explain her ruling here.

As I wrote here and here, I think this is the correct ruling. A defendant raising self-defense may introduce evidence regarding a victim's reputation for a particular character trait like violence to show that the defendant was not the initial aggressor, even if the defendant did not previously know about the victim's reputation. Here's the Munoz case the Judge cites from, which quotes the Dwyer case.

The school records will not be released publicly. The judge also granted the state's request for Zimmerman's medical records, but like the school records, they will not be released publicly. [More]

The state moved for a gag order against the defense yesterday. Here is the motion, which will be heard next week. I think the motion, which is directed at Zimmerman's lawyers, picked the wrong target. The target should be the lawyers for the family of Trayvon Martin. They are the ones who comment on the evidence, opine on guilt, and inflame passions likely to prejudice the potential jury pool.

The defense has posted pleadings it has filed in court. That's allowed, and the motion doesn't seek to prevent it. The defense is also allowed to inform the public about the course of proceedings. [More...]