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Yankees win!

The New York Yankees won the 27th World Championship in their storied history by defeating the Philadelphia Phillies 7-3 in Game 6 of the World Series. The Yankees won the series 4-2.

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    Yes!!! (5.00 / 1) (#1)
    by byteb on Wed Nov 04, 2009 at 11:02:21 PM EST
    I'm glad they won at home in the new stadium.

    How sweet it is!

    Sweet indeed!!! (5.00 / 2) (#5)
    by nycstray on Wed Nov 04, 2009 at 11:16:23 PM EST
    I'm really glad they won at home.

    The new stadium just lost her virginity!!!

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    McDonnell, Christie, Yankees (5.00 / 1) (#2)
    by andgarden on Wed Nov 04, 2009 at 11:06:22 PM EST
    Bad things come in threes. :D

    Now, now, Andy, (5.00 / 1) (#7)
    by Peter G on Wed Nov 04, 2009 at 11:18:18 PM EST
    we Philadelphians must show good sportsmanship.  As they say in cricket, "Well played, sir."

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    Eh, it's the most pleasure I'll get out of (none / 0) (#8)
    by andgarden on Wed Nov 04, 2009 at 11:23:44 PM EST
    this. Last night was much more of a letdown IMO, so this is just icing.

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    heyyyyyyyyyyyyy! (none / 0) (#3)
    by cpinva on Wed Nov 04, 2009 at 11:11:40 PM EST
    the yankees were the only thing keeping me going, with the redskins in utter disarray, and having to put up with that smug pr*ck mcdonnell for the next 4 years.

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    Christie is probably a Philly's fan. ;) (none / 0) (#6)
    by byteb on Wed Nov 04, 2009 at 11:17:26 PM EST
    Boo! (5.00 / 2) (#10)
    by Steve M on Wed Nov 04, 2009 at 11:29:12 PM EST


    Start spreading the news . . . (5.00 / 1) (#13)
    by fuzzyone on Thu Nov 05, 2009 at 12:37:57 AM EST
    I put the same video on my facebook page.  I was nine and ten when they won in 77-78 so it was great having my 8 and 10 year olds with me to watch this (living on the west coast made that possible).  This is a great team and its especially great to see Pettitte and Mo combine 13 years later to do it again with Posada on the receiving end and the Captain brilliant as always.

    Wish I could be there for the parade.  Nothing like a New York ticker tape parade.  That is a town that knows how to celebrate.

    I love the Yankees, BUT the only bad thing about (5.00 / 2) (#19)
    by steviez314 on Thu Nov 05, 2009 at 05:04:00 AM EST
    them being in the World Series is that every time the camera cuts to the first base angle shot, you can see freaking Rudy Giuliani in his box seat.  Ugh.

    No baseball here (5.00 / 1) (#27)
    by jbindc on Thu Nov 05, 2009 at 08:13:24 AM EST
    But this is a cool photo taken in Afghanistan.

    That is a really cool photo (5.00 / 1) (#29)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Nov 05, 2009 at 08:26:13 AM EST
    I'm going to send it to my husband's email.  I don't think he's getting out much right now :)

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    That second one in the article (5.00 / 1) (#31)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Nov 05, 2009 at 08:29:44 AM EST
    makes me wonder about past UFO sightings.

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    27 is a beautiful number. (none / 0) (#4)
    by nycstray on Wed Nov 04, 2009 at 11:14:34 PM EST


    Must admit the Yankees were the better (none / 0) (#9)
    by oculus on Wed Nov 04, 2009 at 11:29:07 PM EST
    team this year.  And, all hail Rivera.

    back before the red son won (none / 0) (#11)
    by The Last Whimzy on Thu Nov 05, 2009 at 12:19:04 AM EST
    the only thing worse than yankee fan self-entitlement was the self-loathing of red sox fans.

    now. i guess there's nothing worse than yankee fan entitlement.

    cha-ching.  hey look, sonny.  the team with the highest payroll won the world series.

    history.

    Just dumb (none / 0) (#22)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Thu Nov 05, 2009 at 07:00:02 AM EST
    i see a whole post was submitted (none / 0) (#12)
    by The Last Whimzy on Thu Nov 05, 2009 at 12:37:54 AM EST
    as a response to something i wrote a couple weeks ago.

    so i will clarify.  

    yankee dominance with a salary cap would be great for baseball.

    just like patriots dominance with a salary cap has been great for football.

    yankee dominance without a salary cap is bad for baseball because everyone but a yankee fan will have good reason -- a logical reason -- to question the integrity of the victory.

    i don't hate the yankees.  i understand the game and the financial side of it and how that leads to a better, year in year out, chance at winning a world championship.  

    if i was a yankee fan, i would want a salary cap too cause i would know, based on the superior decisions made by their GM, that they would be every bit as successful as they are now even when they weren't allowed to outspend everyone else for players like CC and Tex.


    You still have to play the games (none / 0) (#14)
    by fuzzyone on Thu Nov 05, 2009 at 12:41:04 AM EST
    They did that better than anyone else this year.  People can question it if you want but they are fools if they do.  The fact that they have not done it in nine years seems ample evidence that money alone is not enough.  All that being said I have no objection to a salary cap, though there seems to be no likelihood of one being imposed anytime soon.

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    and barry bonds (none / 0) (#15)
    by The Last Whimzy on Thu Nov 05, 2009 at 01:25:06 AM EST
    hit homeruns better than anyone else did, too.

    and no.  if you shot me full of steroids i still wouldn't be able to hit a homerun.

    you have to be able to hit the ball.

    that doesn't mean steroids didn't help bonds break a record.

    i know there won't be a cap anytime soon, but they are moving in the right direction.  taxing overspending.

    you'll always have flashes in the pan, like tampa last year, but until there's a cap, the league will be defined by regional economies.  not by what happens on the field.


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    Another idiotic comment (5.00 / 1) (#21)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Thu Nov 05, 2009 at 06:59:40 AM EST
    Steroids became illegal in baseball. And were illegal in society.

    Spending money on players is not ponly NOT illegal in baseball, absent the antitrust exemption, purposefully not spending money on players would be illegal in society.

    You hatred of the Yankees is making you an idiot.

    The funny thing to me is that since the explosion in spending on players, the Yankees win at a much lower clip than they did previously.

    In the 50 years before Steinbrenner purchased the Yankees, the Yankees won 20 world championships. In the 27 years since Steinbrenne bought the Yankees, they won 7.

    You just are not thinking.

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    Steinbrenner bought the Yankees 36 years ago. (none / 0) (#28)
    by steviez314 on Thu Nov 05, 2009 at 08:19:16 AM EST
    I mean, who can forget "born liar, convicted liar" in 1978, or the great elevator punchout in 1981.

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    right - 1973 (none / 0) (#30)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Thu Nov 05, 2009 at 08:26:35 AM EST
    i have not called you names (none / 0) (#38)
    by The Last Whimzy on Thu Nov 05, 2009 at 09:22:33 PM EST
    but i can start and then you can pretend you never started and accuse me of calling you name.

    the rest of your comment does nothing to refute any of my points.  but it does make it look like you're actually saying -- well, at least something -- to back your immature tirades.

    every yankee fan tries to say "see, they didn't win a world series this year, money guarantees nothing," which is fine but their brains fry when they realize that wasn't the point.

    the point is how the american league east stacked up every year over the last 10 years.

    so yes. money = wins.  sorry.  i see a trend.

    and yes.  tampa won once.  good if you point that out.


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    Also (none / 0) (#40)
    by The Last Whimzy on Thu Nov 05, 2009 at 09:28:23 PM EST
    Steroids wasn't illegal in baseball when they were taking Steroids.  it took about a decade from them to make the rule and start testing.

    But that is thin stuff when you're trying to convince anyone that the HR records really mean anything.

    not soon, but one day there will be a salary cap, and then one day the folks who say "money didn't help the yanks win games" will sound just like those giants fans who said "steroids didn't help Bonds hit home runs."


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    Question the integruty of the victory? (none / 0) (#20)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Thu Nov 05, 2009 at 06:55:41 AM EST
    See, that is just stupid.

    Idiotic in fact.

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    Easy (none / 0) (#39)
    by The Last Whimzy on Thu Nov 05, 2009 at 09:24:14 PM EST
    Patriots winning 3 super bowls has more integrity than yanks winning 4 World Series.

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    salary caps (none / 0) (#16)
    by cpinva on Thu Nov 05, 2009 at 02:36:29 AM EST
    don't draft players, nor does it train and manage them. having the highest payroll in a sport is no guarantee of anything, other than having the highest payroll. the yankees have done that several times, and finished well out of the money.

    i tend to think that success breeds success, and vice versa. the yankees enter every game expecting to win, not wondering if they might be able to. one might call that arrogance. one might also call it the natural self-confidence, developed over the years, from being successful.

    or not, take your pick.

    the phillies had an excellent team this year, as witnessed by their return to the series (a very difficult feat). however, when games and the series were on the line, it was yankee bats, pitching and fielding that ultimately maintained their cool.

    money can't buy that.

    The Bronx is back! (none / 0) (#23)
    by vicndabx on Thu Nov 05, 2009 at 07:06:12 AM EST
    Get over it.  Congratulations to the Bombers.

    Oh, and if I never have to listen to Joe Buck's (5.00 / 1) (#25)
    by vicndabx on Thu Nov 05, 2009 at 07:20:38 AM EST
    biased game calling and Fox's interviewers idiotic questions, I will be forever grateful to the broadcasting gods.

    It borders on unprofessional the way the internalized hate seeped out as the games were being called.  

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    Lots of people cheering for the Yankees (none / 0) (#24)
    by ruffian on Thu Nov 05, 2009 at 07:09:57 AM EST
    over here in Japan - Matsui is very popular of course. So that is as much of a rooting interest as I had this year.

    27 WS wins - we Cubs fans cannot even imagine such riches. Congratulations Yankee fans!

    Respect due to the Bronx ... (none / 0) (#26)
    by Ellie on Thu Nov 05, 2009 at 08:06:22 AM EST
    ... for almost single-handedly preserving The Mambo, The Boogalu (that's Boogie-Woogie meets Babalu) and other great Afro-Latino musical forms when too-cool Manhattan went chasing other "fads".

    How unfair that the Bronx also got saddled with such unspeakable evil as the Yankees! What'cha gonna do?

    Speaking for me only, probably The Mambo, only a tad more sadly today. Hit it, Tito!

    And congrats to the rest of you knuckleheads.

    Congrats to the Yanquis (none / 0) (#32)
    by brodie on Thu Nov 05, 2009 at 08:58:49 AM EST
    for displaying their superior individual baseball skills, though I can't find it in myself to send much goodwill to the billionaire (Mayor Bloomberg)-banker (BofA, Goldman Sachs)-bully (Guiliani, Steinbrenner, Sinatra) segment of their backers.

    It looks like Yanqui management got their money's worth this time -- starters for the NYers averaged $14 mill per season -- though A-Rod ($33 mill) still underperformed in the Series.  For $33 mill, I'd expect him to be putting up Chase Utley (5 HRs earning $11 mill/yr) numbers at the least.

    Too bad dull predictable Fox has all the coverage of these games, and will until 2013 as I understand.  Too bad also that MLB allows the network to put on the Series so late in the evening, and that the games are so often of the interminable 4-hour variety.  All bad things for the game, despite some decent ratings this time.

    Did no one mention this here? (none / 0) (#33)
    by jbindc on Thu Nov 05, 2009 at 08:59:13 AM EST
    Or did I just miss it?

    Italian Court convicts 23 Americans in kidnapping case

    MILAN -- An Italian court convicted 22 CIA operatives and a U.S. Air Force colonel on kidnapping charges Wednesday in a stern rebuke to the U.S. government's long-standing practice of covertly seizing terrorism suspects abroad without a warrant.

    The guilty verdicts are the only instance in which CIA operatives have faced a criminal trial for the controversial tactic of extraordinary rendition, under which terrorism suspects are abducted in one country and forcibly transported to another.

    The CIA began carrying out renditions during the Clinton administration but intensified their frequency under orders from the Bush White House after the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks. The Obama administration said in August that it would continue the practice, but pledged to take steps to ensure that rendition targets are not tortured, either by the CIA or by foreign spy agencies.

    In winning the guilty verdicts, Italian prosecutors took a contrary view, saying they were determined to enforce the law in spite of political pressure from Rome and Washington to drop the case.

    "This decision sends a clear message to all governments that even in the fight against terrorism you can't forsake the basic rights of our democracies," said Armando Spataro, the deputy Milan public prosecutor.

    The Americans were charged with snatching a Muslim cleric off the street here in 2003 and covertly flying him to Cairo, where he said he was subjected to electroshocks and other physical abuse.

    The victim, Hassan Mustafa Osama Nasr, a radical Egyptian imam also known as Abu Omar, had been under the surveillance of Italian anti-terrorism police. Italian criminal investigators said they were steamed to learn later that the CIA, secretly aided by Italian military intelligence agents, had intervened without their knowledge and thwarted their effort to bring Nasr to trial.

    Nasr was subsequently indicted in Milan. He was released from prison in Cairo in 2007 but has been forbidden from leaving Egypt.

    The Americans were all tried in absentia but were represented throughout the trial by defense attorneys, most of them court-appointed. The defendants each received a five-year prison sentence, with the exception of Robert Seldon Lady, the CIA's former chief in Milan, who was sentenced to eight years for leading the kidnapping operation.

    In rendering the verdict, the judge in the case, Oscar Magi, acquitted three other Americans, including the former Rome station chief for the CIA, saying they were covered by diplomatic immunity.

    Spataro said his office would seek to extradite the 23 Americans from the United States. But a formal decision rests with the Italian Justice Ministry, which so far has been reluctant to alienate Washington by asking for extradition.



    Good for the Italians... (none / 0) (#34)
    by kdog on Thu Nov 05, 2009 at 09:15:30 AM EST
    I'd expect our government to do no less if a foreign intelligence service starting kidnapping people here.

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    I read about it (none / 0) (#35)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Nov 05, 2009 at 09:26:13 AM EST
    But the nobody mentioned it here.

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    Well that was stupid (none / 0) (#36)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Nov 05, 2009 at 09:28:20 AM EST
    I meant to type but 'nobody mentioned it here"....I honestly don't know where the hell "the" came from.  I'm sorry.  What a jerk :)

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    ugggh (none / 0) (#37)
    by tworivers on Thu Nov 05, 2009 at 03:26:17 PM EST
    Je n'aime pas les Yankees.