This is why Obama and the New Dems have lost me this election cycle, and sadly, many others.  One just has to see the flourishing of all the blogs and sites that are populated with upset Democrats/progressives who were Clinton sympathizers who feel betrayed by Obama's campaign approach and his operatives.

As Maya Angelou wrote about Hillary (and also applie to Bill)..

"You may write me down in history
    With your bitter, twisted lies,
You may tread me in the very dirt
    But still, like dust, I'll rise"

And, THE GREATEST ECONOMIC EXPANSION IN HISTORY.

Funny.  That's too big for me.

This requires ignorance of the major arc of 20th-century history, in which proponents of maximalist governance rose, crested, and crashed ... producing an inevitable period of triumph for the proponents of minimalist governance.

We talked about how before the dotcoms, Wall Street was this elite group. During the 90's, we were all allowed in. Maybe that was not Bill's accomplishment but with him in office we felt confident that all was well with the world. We, as a country, were respected because around the world, our President was loved and respected. And he knew not to attack Iraq. He contained it. Bill left office with a 70% approval rating. Now that is pretty impressive. I do not understand the jealousy, the wanting to topple the tower, or the desire to destroy one of our great Democratic Presidents. It is all about the ones who control the power and the ones who want to control the power. And the losers are the American people. People liked Bill Clinton and did not like impeaching him for what he did. The people still like Bill.

Clinton built up the Democratic brand when it was weak. Obama, because of who he is and what he and his elitist movement represents, can only take the currently strong Democratic brand and make it weak.

They remain absolutely incensed that Bill's popularity increased with the voters during the course of the honey trap scandal. And they accuse him of being "red-faced" (usually while their spittle is being flecked all over the teleprompters).

I'll leave it up to you to guess what that is.

Some of us saw the parade after Eisenhower's inauguration in 1953.

Some of us remember the primary campaign in 1960.

Some of us can tell you EXACTLY where we were and what we were doing on that fateful day in 1963.

Some of us know what it was like to be a young man when there was a draft. It gives you an completely different perspective on things. Neutrality is not an option although Canada was.

Some of us protested the Viet Nam war and resent some of senator Obama's remakes about our protests. Remember also that some of us went to those protests wearing a button with a rifle with a bayonet in the ground and a helmet on the rifle butt, the symbol of Viet Nam Veterans Against the War.

But some of us also remember Chet, David, and Walter. None of them or any of their contemporaries would have made or tolerated the comments made many of the news media in this campaign. I stopped watching TV news a long time ago. I came back for a short while in 2006 to watch Countdown but stopped when the host began personal attacks on senator Clinton. And the comments by others on MSNBC have been far more sexist.

To hear some of the Obama bloggers and some TV political activists (I can't call them reporters) the eight years of the Clinton presidency were worse than the last eight years. What have they been smoking.

I will vote for senator Obama in November. At this time I am still unsure if it will be a vote for Obama or a vote against the disaster that the election of John McBush would represent. If senator Obama offers the VP slot to senator Clinton (even if she declines) I just might not change my registration to independent (republican is NOT an option).

Obama wanted Hilary to go away during the campaign.  Now that he is the nominee he seems he can't win unless all the Hilary supporter come over to him.  So he now woos Hilary for these voters.  Not only that, he praises how hard Bill campaigned for Hilary and he now wants Bill to go out and campaign for him just like he did for Hilary.  

But Obama couldn't claim Bill Clinton's legacy for himself, not with Hillary running.  He tried to go to the next successful president back, JFK (skipping Carter and LBJ for obvious reasons).  That got some mild traction, but since he's nothing like JFK, and mamy of the Democrats he was throwing under the bus remember JFK, it wasn't a winner.

So he had a choice.  He couldn't neutralize Bill's influence by claiming ideological kinship.  He could have chosen to emphasize other things.  He could have chosen to promote his own policies.  He could have chosen other successful politicians to align himself with.  (oops, tried that with Kennedy and Kerry but somehow still didn't bring Massachusetts around).

Or he could destroy Bill's legacy and influence.

I'm afraid to say it, but I'm relieved that this primary is over, even though I was disappointed with the outcome. This is the first chance I've had to express this.

While this man is not perfect, he ushered in some of the best economy, social and technological advances in this country's history- all while under perpetual attacks from the Republicans Party.

To allow Bill Clinton to portrayed as a racist and a fear-monger and someone who is divisive and a determent to the Democratic Party and to America itself is criminal.

As usual, the Democratic Party shoots itself in the foot.  

And I will never EVER forgive the Democratic Party for what they did to Bill Clinton.

however, darn if we can put Hillary on the ticket (even if it helps Obama) because she is 'teh evil'.

So we can't potentially sacrifice his election by not voting for him, but THEY can potentially sacrifice his election by refusing to put Hillary on the ticket.

The fact that I even have to defend Bill Clinton's record against those of my former party, is enough to make me take my leave.

As a Veteran of the USMC and someone who's future and financial security is cemented in the intelligent fiscal policies of the 90's, I can no longer align myself with a party of angry well fed bourgeois who disregard the rest of us (the 18 million other POV's).

Sen. McCain's closed-door impeachment statement
Released into Congressional Record, February 12, 1999

Sen. John McCain (R-Arizona): Mr. Chief Justice, I intend to vote to convict the President of the United States on both articles of impeachment. To say I do so with regret will sound trite to some, but I mean it sincerely. I deeply regret that this day has come to pass.

Fox News is sinking in the ratings faster than George W. Bush

Now I question the whole article.   This seems to be the complete 180 opposite of the Vanity Fair article.

Interesting how fractured the democratic party is.

Once he traded in his party elder chip for a Hillary for President button he pissed off some people and his legacy suffered a bit.  It is easy to remember the things you don't like about a politician when you find him on the other side of your candidate.  

When Bill Clinton arrived on the national stage in 1993, he was the fresh-faced candidate of change. After 12 years of Reagan-Bush, the American people were ready for something different. And Clinton was different. He was a "New Democrat" - a DLCer - who represented a break with the traditional liberalism of FDR and LBJ. As conservatism was still ascendant, this was probably the only kind of Democratic campaign that could win. And win he did.

But his first two years in office were politically disastrous - reminiscent of Jimmy Carter. In the 1994 midterms, the Democrats lost the House for the first time in 40 years. But Clinton used his considerable political skills to chart a political recovery that was far beyond Carter's meager skills. For the next six years, Clinton's governing philosophy was triangulation - confronting Gingrich and keeping other Democrats at arm's length. While we look back on the `90s as a time of "peace and prosperity," Clinton himself once remarked that he was governing as an Eisenhower Republican.  His most famous phrases were that "the era of big government was over" and that he'd "ended welfare as we know it." While he had his successes, they were not progressive by any stretch.

Today, we live in a very different world than the one Bill Clinton observed in 1993. After 8 years of a failed George W. Bush presidency, the American people are once again in the mood for change. But this time, conservatism is crashing as a discredited ideology. The time is right for a new progressive era. And Barack Obama perfectly matches the spirit of this moment - just as Bill Clinton did in 1993.

I posted that to provide some factual counter-argument to a poster that seemed to think John McCain "wasn't very conservative".  I felt differently, so I pointed it out.