I do not know if I have written this before, but I really do not like the Media.

What that means is all the stuff you never see anywhere.  Not even here.  She would have loved to see a woman president, but that's not what that's about.  And there's no sense of outrage either, she knows very little about what's gone on.  

I had to explain to her that the Obama movement has smeared Bill and Hillary as racists.  And even that doesn't really get her worked up.

What "awe crap, we're screwed," means is that we both genuinely believed that from 1992, with some considerable bumps along the way, up until 2000, the country was going in a direction that not only made us proud, but, and so much more importantly made us feel like we could do something very mundane yet also very extraordinary:  Raise a family.  The future looked good.

When Bush stole the election, we know what happened then.

I don't need to describe how we felt about that.

What "awe crap, we're screwed," means is that we were sure that, in 2008, the country could pick up where it left off in 2000.

Now we are not so sure.  Things could go either way.  We do not have the confidence in Obama in that way.  Obama does not address issues in a competent manner.  Obama is a novice.  He is surrounded by the wrong people.  

So clearly, my spouse is not wrapped up in this the way I am.  Pastors come and go.  Elections come and go.  Politics comes and goes.  Political attacks they come with the territory.  Does it matter what Geffen said?  Not to her.  But to me it does.

All she looks at is the news tonight, thinking about our daughter and says "awe crap, we're screwed."

Final note.  She didn't say "crap."  She said a word that starts with an 's' and ends with a 't.'

Lastly, I have always said that if Obama wins AND does a good job.  If he does the things that Bill was able to do, creating jobs, balancing the budget, AND bringing 7 million people out of poverty, all the while HELPING to bring a small measure of peace to other parts of the world like Kosovo and No. Ireland.  

Which doesn't mean Obama has to be perfect, Bill wasn't perfect either.  Bill didn't do right by Rwanda.  A lot of his legislation was left open to abuse, unenforced regulations, etc.  

What I'm saying is, for now my sense is "awe crap, we're screwed,"  but if Obama is a success the way I believe Clinton was a success, the way I believed Hillary would have been a success, then I'll be the first person to admit I was wrong.  I will do so gladly because the quality of life for all Americans will be, day in and day out, getting better.  Not only that, but all the history that's playing out right now will be swept away.  No one cares that you stole an election if you do a good job (see BSG!).  No one cares if you lie to start a war, if you win it.  There's the idealogs who will care, but they don't win elections.  Or at least they shouldn't.  

BUT....  

BUT....  If this personality contest, rules based win, yields yet another bust, if this goes the way of Carter (another admirable man), what are the chances any of the people who shoved this crap down our throats, or even the people who  are going to take responsibility for THEIR actions, and admit they were wrong?

I bet none.

Not only that, but if he does a poor job, all of what's happening right now will be viewed much differently.  Much much differently.

Anyway.  I was wondering if anyone remembered we are talking about the future of America here?

I want to say that I would be acting the same if votes were stolen from anyone in any election.

It's an underlying principle.

This is the first time in my life I have ever commented on a blog (not this post, this primary), and Talk left has really helped me get into the political process more, and has made me more informed when talking to people about politics.

Congratulations to both the candidates for an incredible primary campaign.

What you won't hear from this campaign or this party is the kind of politics that uses religion as a wedge, and patriotism as a bludgeon -- that sees our opponents not as competitors to challenge, but enemies to demonize.

If you didn't like it... didn't get it... well, as they say, my give a d**n is broke.  It had nothing to do with you, so just stay away.

We should dedicate a month for those folks.

God knows they need it.

And one final note, point of order.  It would be appreciated if Jeralyn will make a statement about how the site will be run from now on.

BTD, they (MSM) HATE Clinton, they don't love Obama, once they've flushed her everyone except Olbermann and Maddow will turn on him on a dime.  I can guarantee it it.  Gore and Kerry were war heroes for goodness sakes, they weren't a guy with a thin resume and thinner skin.  He hangs out with some of the most radical people in America.  Can't you see the 527's with that Ayer's picture of him standing on the flag and talking about how he didn't bomb enough stuff in the 60's.  (No biggie to me, but let's see how that plays out in the Fall, not well IMHO.)  Contrast that with picture of McCain in a tiger cage for five or six years under constant torture.

When push comes to shove, I might vote for him, but I can't promise that.  But I will bash McCain (or his policies and positions, picking on a man's physical malformities like they do at DK will be a bit unpopular, with everyone except the netroots.  They remember Tester and Webb far more than they remember Lamont.  Why do you think Tester and Webb won, because they are moderates who connect with the average Joe.  Obama does not.

I hope he learns how.

For all the ugliness that's been thrown the way of the Clintons -- for all the things that Gergen and Toobin and Matthews and Olbermann and the Senators and the Congressmen and the DNC and the bloggers have said about them, the people themselves have only backed Hillary in greater numbers -- as the past several months have proved beyond a doubt.

There is nothing that the assembled group of moralizers can say about the Clintons that has not already been said, and the effect of anything these people say will only backfire at best.

So why should the Clintons back down? Hillary's powerbase is solid and will remain absolutely solid no matter what the pundits and party bigshots say. They can say that they are disgracing their legacy -- except that they already said that. They are mostly in the position of the feckless authority figure who must scream: "Stop! Or I will say 'Stop' again!"

And I'm sure that this base can be reassembled in four years again, if Hillary wants to. There's no stopping that -- the Democratic Party can't make that not happen.

If Obama loses, he and his side will, of course, do everything they can to blame Hillary. It won't matter: losers who have managed to grab defeat from the jaws of victory don't dictate anything to anybody. The Obama wing will lose all clout in the Democratic Party.

It will not matter if the assembled punditry and Democratic bigshots blame Hillary. She is bigger than all of them put together. She has a constituency they don't. The Democratic Party can't go forward without her and that constituency.

I did catch part of Fox's take on Hillary's speech later on and it was just insane to hear Bill Kristol lauding her the way he was given the vitriol on CNN I'd read about here.

Btw, if anyone had thought that KO hadn't lost his mind already, apparently this went on during her speech as per a Livejournal friend -- I'm glad I missed it or I might've kicked in my tv):

"He [KO] just speculated that the Clinton campaign chose the particular venue [in NYC] from where she spoke because it is underground and possibly a "dead zone" for cell phones and Blackberrys.  The reason being so that those in attendance would purposely not know that that Obama had been put "over the top."  And, Chris seemed to agree."

If they paid attention to history instead of the novel they are writing they would know that no candidate in a race this close simply says "I lost, good show, see ya."  Politics is about power.  Hillary has it and, unlike so many Democrats, she's not going to just give it up for free.  

I predict whatever else happens, Hillary holds onto her delegates until Denver.  She's going to get pretty much anything and everything she wants from the party and the presumptive nominee (who himself seems to only now to be realizing that he won but she's currently got more power than he does).*  That's politics.

If our media or the Blogger Boiz knew anything about the subject they spew so much about (many of whom even get paid to do so).  None of this would be a surprise to them.

But because they've decided to abandon reality-based reporting and analysis to enter the truthiness atmosphere of their echo chamber, they are shocked! shocked! the b!tch didn't walk away and thank Obama for not insisting she commit suicide.  Not, of course, that that's what Obama would or should do had Hillary become the presumptive nominee.

"He [KO] just speculated that the Clinton campaign chose the particular venue [in NYC] from where she spoke because it is underground and possibly a "dead zone" for cell phones and Blackberrys.  The reason being so that those in attendance would purposely not know that that Obama had been put "over the top."  And, Chris seemed to agree."

I'm actually thrilled with it up to this point. I'm sort of excited to see what Hillary has up her sleeve. Really, seriously, don't count her out. And if she's out in this race, watch her closely, I think more will happen. She may very well play the Ted Kennedy roll and be the best senator for many years, but then she may have a lot more in store. Especially in four years against McCain if she's not the VP nominee (which I personally hope she isn't for her own political cereer).

Barack Obama 17,355,652 (49.55%)

DO WE GO WITH LEGITIMATE VOTES AND DEMOCRACY,

OR WITH CORRUPT CAUCUSES AND DISPROPORTIONATE DELEGATES ?

PELOSI SAYS GO WITH THE WILL OF PEOPLE.

Which kind of further proves the fact that one of the primary reason of Obama love by MSM was their Hillary hatred. They hate Hillary so much that they were willing to diss her supporters, her wins, her husband, her daughter her everything. As late as today morning I saw a report in CNN in which they were making fun of the fcat that Hillary mispronounced someone's name in a rally and that she coughed so much that she had to hand over the mike to Chelsea. This after Obama has been commiting major blunders regarding pronounciation, historical facts and actual geography, which got nary a mention.

I personally would have felt very let down if Hillary had conceded today and I firmly believe that it was in keeping our sensitivities in mind that she did what she did today knowing that nobody else would have been bothered about our feelings. At this point the MSM has become a joke for me. Their collective disappointment tonight was hilarious to say the least. After the way they pushed Bush over Gore and allowed Bush to make his case for Iraq war while actively cheerleading in the sidelines, was there anything more they could have done to establish their credibility?

And all this talk about winning the mountain states? Again, if Romney is the VP, kiss most of that goodbye.  And spare me the Richardson angle.  Hillary carried NM.  And remember, most of Obama's victories came before CrazyChurchgate.

So, if he takes all the states that Kerry took (not counting on PA), WHERE o WHERE does Mr Obama make it up?

Sorry but I don't see the Carolinas and the deep south states flipping for him at all.  Virginia?  Hmmm.  Last time Virginia voted for a Democrat was one Lyndon Baines Johnson...44 years ago.  Missouri?  That's dicey at best.  Iowa, maybe. But IA ain't OH or FL.