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Rudy Giuliani and the Monsignor

The Next Hurrah is on the Rudy Giuliani - Alan Placa relationship.

Placa and Giuliani became friends when they were 13-14, when they began High School, and remained close friends through College. Post college Placa went to the Seminary, and Giuliani off to Law School. After he was ordained, Placa went off to Law School too. Eventually he became a Monsignor in the Diocese of Rockville Center, Long Island NY, and as we know Giuliani went to DC to Reagan's DOJ. When Giuliani needed an Annulment of his first marriage, Placa did the job.

But Monsignor Placa got into considerable trouble in the late 1990's and early 2000 era, when he not only was accused of abuse of two minors, who could not sue him or the diocese because the five year statute of limitations was long past, but when the whole huge story broke, first in Boston, and then across the country, Monsignor Placa comes up in several parts of it. While serving on Long Island, he had developed a legal strategy for dealing with abuse complaints that involved having an "intervention team" that met with family members and the abused, without revealing that Placa was indeed the Diocese Lawyer on such matters. Placa took great pride that in cases that if litigated might cost the Diocese Millions, he could frequently manipulate the situation, and get out for a few thousand. Of course the Monsignor was flying a false flag -- he was not a spiritual counsel, he was the Bishop's Lawyer. He traveled the country teaching Bishops the technique -- apparently 200 cases where he was successful outside his own diocese.

Where is the national media on this? Sara at Next Hurrah says, "To read all the bloody details, what you do is google the two names, Alan Placa and Rudy Giuliani, and you can read about it for hours, should you have a taste for Priestly Pedophilia and the investigations of recent years thereof.

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    Giuliani (none / 0) (#1)
    by diogenes on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 04:47:06 PM EST
    Thanks for doing McCain's job for him.  McCain might beat Hillary whereas Rudy would self-destruct for sure.  Hillary will not be willing to make an ironclad promise to withdraw on January 21, 2009 if she is actually nominated, so Iraq would really be off the table except for peace groups picketing the Democratic Convention (think 1968).  
    Four years of McCain would set the stage quite nicely for President Obama 2012.    

    Nitwit. (1.00 / 1) (#2)
    by LarryInNYC on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 05:07:34 PM EST
    (sorry, I hope "nitwit" doesn't violate the site guidelines).

    Hillary will not be willing to make an ironclad promise to withdraw on January 21, 2009

    Clinton has already said that if the war isn't over by the time she takes office she would end it on the first day she's in office.

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    What a goof... (none / 0) (#10)
    by bx58 on Wed Mar 14, 2007 at 01:01:03 AM EST
    "Clinton has already said that if the war isn't over by the time she takes office she would end it on the first day she's in office."

    Will that be done by some kind of executive order or will she just wave her magic wand/broomstick in the air?

    Can't wait to see that.

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    First off. . . (none / 0) (#12)
    by LarryInNYC on Wed Mar 14, 2007 at 07:17:55 PM EST
    the poster stated that only Edwards has said he'd end the war.  That's simply wrong -- Clinton has said the same thing.  Liking Clinton or not liking her has nothing to do with the facts, and that facts are that she did say what I reported she said.  Your ridiculous rating doesn't change it either.  It's a fact.

    As for how it would be done of course it would be done by Executive Order.  How the heck else does a President accomplish anything?  What obstacle is in the way of the President ordering the troops to withdraw?  You are absurd.

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    And you're in NYC Larry? (none / 0) (#16)
    by bx58 on Wed Mar 14, 2007 at 08:08:59 PM EST
    "What obstacle is in the way of the President ordering the troops to withdraw?"

    Ask the grovelers.

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    I completely (none / 0) (#17)
    by LarryInNYC on Wed Mar 14, 2007 at 08:11:50 PM EST
    fail to understand your point.  Are you saying it's something other than the White House that's keeping the war going?

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    I won't delete it (none / 0) (#3)
    by Jeralyn on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 05:58:57 PM EST
    but yes, name-calling like "nitwit" is not allowed. I can't edit comments, I can only delete them. Since your point is valid about what Hillary has said, you get a pass this time.

    I beg your pardon. (none / 0) (#13)
    by LarryInNYC on Wed Mar 14, 2007 at 07:20:32 PM EST
    I only just noticed your comment here -- I did look for a response but only attached to my original comment.  In the meantime I seem to have reoffended by calling someone "absurd".  My apologies.

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    As an excuse. . . (none / 0) (#14)
    by LarryInNYC on Wed Mar 14, 2007 at 07:33:02 PM EST
    let me just add that I followed BTD over from Daily Kos where your comment can get deleted if you don't insult someone.

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    Keep digging journalists..... (none / 0) (#4)
    by kdog on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 06:06:50 PM EST
    keep digging.  Rudy is the GOP's best shot in a general election, so it's best for the country that he gets ousted in the primary.

    Now, let me understand this (none / 0) (#5)
    by jimakaPPJ on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 06:16:58 PM EST
    Rudi has a friend who, I guess the word is, "dirty?"

    Did this friend catch this condition from Rudi??

    Do we really want to talk about "dirty" friends of people/politicans??

    I confess to be a Rudi fan. I think he is probably the only candidate who will actully do his best to press the enemies we face, and who has the mental toughness to do so.

    Plus, he matches my view on "social liberal" issues pretty well.

    Fourty years ago he would have made a great Demo.

    Yes (none / 0) (#6)
    by squeaky on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 09:04:58 PM EST
    You two are a perfect match.

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    Thanks squeaky. (none / 0) (#7)
    by jimakaPPJ on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 09:15:58 PM EST
    You're Welcome (none / 0) (#8)
    by squeaky on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 09:30:25 PM EST
    I thought you wold like that.

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    You bet (none / 0) (#9)
    by jimakaPPJ on Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 09:36:58 PM EST
    I even know some dirty political people.

    Parent
    there's a line somewhere... (none / 0) (#11)
    by Deconstructionist on Wed Mar 14, 2007 at 07:27:16 AM EST
      ... and different people will draw it differently. I hope we would all agree that merely having a lifelong friend who did wrong is not a reflection on the candidate.

      I think most of us would almost certainly, cut a lot of, if not total, slack to a candidate who remained friends with and stood by his errant friend.  Some might even think it showed character to put loyalty to a close friend above political expediency.

      However, doing business with (especially when it's not so much lending a helping hand to someone in a desperate situation)  and profiting from the association is a different matter.

      Were this just a friendship and Giuliani remained friends, I'd have no problem and say the attacks were unfair. Here, I think it's a valid issue.

       

    on being a nitwit (none / 0) (#18)
    by diogenes on Wed Mar 14, 2007 at 10:05:57 PM EST
    Open the New York Times web page today (3/14/07), read Hillary's "nuanced" comments about how she would keep troops in Iraq upon her election but simply stay out of "urban warfare", and learn that Diogenes knew how to read the metamessage of her promises to end the war and is not so stupid as people believe.