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ISIS Asking $1 Million for James Foley's Remains

By Jeralyn, Section War In Iraq
Posted on Thu Dec 11, 2014 at 02:38:08 PM EST
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Via Newsweek and several other media sites: ISIS is offering to return the body of James Foley for $1 million. The family has not confirmed the report.

Also today, a news station disclosed the identity of Shami Witness, one of ISIS most ardent supporters on Twitter. He was followed by 17,000 people (including 2/3 of foreign fighters) with 2 million views of his tweets each month. The station did not disclose his full name, but they said he goes by the name Mehdi and "he is an executive in Bangalore working for an Indian conglomerate." Here's an article on him. I've used this article he wrote a few times in my posts on ISIS.

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    ISIS Asking $1 Million for James Foley's Remains | 23 comments (23 topical)

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    If it were me (5.00 / 5) (#1)
    by CST on Thu Dec 11, 2014 at 02:46:18 PM EST
    I would not want my family or anyone else paying those f*ckers a single red cent for my lifeless remains.  Dead is dead, bringing the body back isn't gonna change that.

    I Mean Seriously... (none / 0) (#18)
    by ScottW714 on Fri Dec 12, 2014 at 01:41:31 PM EST
    ...we don't pay ransoms to terrorists for people that are alive.  We would essentially be paying them because they killed him, eliminating any inscentive to keep future hostages alive.

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    The question is (2.00 / 1) (#2)
    by jimakaPPJ on Thu Dec 11, 2014 at 04:41:42 PM EST
    Channel 4 News has chosen not to reveal his full name as he says his life would be in danger if his true identity was made public.

    Why would Channel 4 want to protect this man??

    Another example of how the witless of the West is being used against us.

    In the absence (5.00 / 2) (#3)
    by Reconstructionist on Thu Dec 11, 2014 at 04:55:34 PM EST
     of anything more than the belief he is a moral supporter and active advocate for ISIL, why should anyone want him killed or harmed?

      If being harmed because you merely support an unpopular cause was acceptable, you'd need a phalanx of bodyguards.

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    Let me see (2.00 / 1) (#4)
    by jimakaPPJ on Thu Dec 11, 2014 at 07:58:44 PM EST
    And this sounds like a middle school debating class...

    You really don't understand why we would want to take out someone who is advertised as a very effective supporter of ISIS?

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    "Take out"? (5.00 / 2) (#5)
    by Yman on Thu Dec 11, 2014 at 10:26:45 PM EST
    You really don't understand why we would want to take out someone who is advertised as a very effective supporter of ISIS?

    You want to date him?

    Or is it that you really don't understand that you can't just kill some one for posting things on Twitter, even when they're praising an organization as cruel and ruthless as ISIS?

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    Yman, I understand that (2.00 / 1) (#8)
    by jimakaPPJ on Fri Dec 12, 2014 at 09:05:36 AM EST
    you don't know who our enemies are and I understand that you don't understand that they, having proved that they are beyond reasoning with, should be eliminated.

    Period.


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    And we kill him (none / 0) (#9)
    by Mordiggian 88 on Fri Dec 12, 2014 at 09:13:49 AM EST
    Making enemies of his family and friends, another man takes his place, we kill him, his family and friends become our enemies, another man takes his place........

    Are you getting the picture, yet?

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    I have written that I believe (2.00 / 1) (#12)
    by jimakaPPJ on Fri Dec 12, 2014 at 09:25:35 AM EST
    that you are a pacifistic.

    Fine. That is your right.

    But do you understand the basic philosophy of the radical islamists as defined by bin Ladin in his March 1997 interview with CNN correspondent Peter Arnett?

    REPORTER: Mr. Bin Ladin, will the end of the United States' presence in Saudi Arabia, their withdrawal, will that end your call for jihad against the United States and against the US ?

    BIN LADIN: ...So, the driving-away jihad against the US does not stop with its withdrawal from the Arabian peninsula, but rather it must desist from aggressive intervention against Muslims in the whole world.

    Link

    And having read that, do you understand the meaning of "the WHOLE world?"

    Whether we like it or not we are engaged in a global war. And being old enough to remember the Cold War and knowing some peers who died trying to win that war I detest it but it will not go away.

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    Nope, I just don't see how (5.00 / 1) (#14)
    by Mordiggian 88 on Fri Dec 12, 2014 at 09:35:43 AM EST
    Killing this guy off solves anything.  We make him a martyr for ISIS, and he's replaced by someone else who feels the same way.

    If you kill off fighters and soldiers, they're much harder to replace, but killing off everyone who Twitters support for ISIS is madness.

    If having some sense in this matter, that we should concentrate on the battlefield, and leave the propaganda war as a separate sphere.

    That you look towards killing people as the first solution to any problem tells us all about you, Jim.  

    Oh, and BTW, is your grandson going to enlist to help fight the ISIS menace when he's old enough?

    Or are you only willing to send other people's sons and daughters to fight ISIS?

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    you've written it enough times Jim (5.00 / 2) (#29)
    by Jeralyn on Fri Dec 12, 2014 at 10:15:26 PM EST
    Please move on. You are repeating yourself.

    As for Shami Witness, I happen to support his right to tweet what he wants. He is not a militant, or a member of ISIS. Suggesting he be "taken out" violates our comment policy.

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    Making him a martyr? That's a great idea. (none / 0) (#7)
    by Mordiggian 88 on Fri Dec 12, 2014 at 09:04:27 AM EST
    By killing him, there will be tons of people who will be eager to take his place.  

    If we were to go killing everyone who expresses support for ISIS, when do we stop?

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    An excellent (1.00 / 1) (#10)
    by jimakaPPJ on Fri Dec 12, 2014 at 09:15:19 AM EST
    question. I would say

    Also today, a news station disclosed the identity of Shami Witness, one of ISIS most ardent supporters on Twitter. He was followed by 17,000 people (including 2/3 of foreign fighters) with 2 million views of his tweets each month.

    he more than qualifies as an enemy and by encouraging and supporting ISIS, which would include the beheadings, rapes, babies killed, etc., he should be executed.

    And based on your logic we should never have attacked Hitler because he would have become a martyr if we had killed him.

    Look, I understand we walk a thin line in such things but we are fighting an asymmetrical war. We cannot continue to think that all we can do is fight "armies."

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    Someone twittering encouragement (none / 0) (#11)
    by Mordiggian 88 on Fri Dec 12, 2014 at 09:18:07 AM EST
    Isn't the same as Hitler ordering the Final Solution.

    And, has been pointed out to you before, Hitler had the resources and manpower of his Third Reich.  ISIS has support, but hardly has the complete resources of a modern nation-state behind them.

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    Neither did (2.00 / 1) (#13)
    by jimakaPPJ on Fri Dec 12, 2014 at 09:27:19 AM EST
    al Qaeda.

    Do you remember 9/11??

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    So this guy is going to (none / 0) (#15)
    by Mordiggian 88 on Fri Dec 12, 2014 at 09:37:38 AM EST
    help ISIS pull off another 9/11?

    Don't post stupid things like this, Jim.  Killing this guy or any of his replacements won't protect us from another 9/11.

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    This "guy," as you call him has (2.00 / 1) (#19)
    by jimakaPPJ on Fri Dec 12, 2014 at 02:11:56 PM EST
     
    He was followed by 17,000 people (including 2/3 of foreign fighters) with 2 million views of his tweets each month.

    So yes, he is definitely helping.

    But to be nice, maybe we can get the Indian government to just slap him in prison.

    BTW - Just heard that ISIS has just announced killing 4 Christian children.

    Just wanted you to know who "this guy" is supporting and who you, evidently, think it is okay.

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    That you think going after this guy (none / 0) (#23)
    by Mordiggian 88 on Fri Dec 12, 2014 at 05:50:58 PM EST
    In any way, shape or form, will somehow cause those supporters to somehow magically disappear, or suddenly stop feeling the way they do about ISIS is delusional in the extreme.

    The idea of ISIS has no body to be destroyed, no weapon to target.  That you think it can be fought by rounding up people who Tweet in support of it demonstrates you are not thinking clearly on this issue.

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    Because disclosing his full name (none / 0) (#6)
    by Jeralyn on Fri Dec 12, 2014 at 02:14:19 AM EST
    could result in him being killed. Nonetheless, others have now published his full name and photo.

    Parent
    See (5.00 / 4) (#16)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Dec 12, 2014 at 10:04:49 AM EST
    that would only be a problem if it was someone he agreed with.

    Parent
    He (or somebody) has been busted. (none / 0) (#30)
    by Mr Natural on Fri Dec 12, 2014 at 11:41:27 PM EST
    Bengaluru police detain one man in ISIS Twitter account case

    BENGALURU: A man whose identity top police officials are refusing to reveal immediately has been detained in Bengaluru in connection with running a pro-ISIS Twitter handle.


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    I guess this will do a lot to stop ISIS (none / 0) (#31)
    by Mordiggian 88 on Sat Dec 13, 2014 at 01:25:35 AM EST
    From chopping people's heads off in the future.

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    Kill the perps, and you only (none / 0) (#28)
    by Mordiggian 88 on Fri Dec 12, 2014 at 09:57:29 PM EST
    Kill people.  The idea remains unaffected and intact.
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