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New Chart of ISIS Leaders

By Jeralyn, Section War In Iraq
Posted on Mon Dec 01, 2014 at 12:37:59 PM EST
Tags: ISIS, Syria, Iraq (all tags)
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Charles Lester of Brookings has a new paper on the Islamic State (ISIS) and a "Who's Who" chart of its leadership.

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    New Chart of ISIS Leaders | 9 comments (9 topical)

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    When do we get our playing cards? (5.00 / 1) (#7)
    by scribe on Tue Dec 02, 2014 at 09:07:39 AM EST
    You remember the ones with the pictures of Iraq's Most Wanted on them.

    And who will be the Jokers and Ace of Spades this time?

    Ah, the pedophile psychopaths of ISIS (none / 0) (#1)
    by Dadler on Mon Dec 01, 2014 at 12:48:51 PM EST
    Men who are not even capable of the most human emotions. Not even capable of loving their own children or mothers. What a beautiful swath of humanity.

    Left to their own devices, they would end their own societies within decades. But, I have no doubt, we will help them lift their profiles.

    Our stupidity and lack of imagination are more dangerous to us than any fundamentalist, brainwashed halfwits.

    So it goes.

    Self-destruction (none / 0) (#4)
    by christinep on Mon Dec 01, 2014 at 01:18:34 PM EST
    All on its own--ISIS/ISIL may well self-destruct.  'Agree with your perceptions here about the group's hateful characteristics.  Maybe my vision is limited, but--before all-on-its-own comes to be--that hateful bunch is taking and probably will take many others down with them by killing and/or making hundreds of thousands of hungry refugees. The problem is that the ISIS path toward destruction goes way beyond its own demise ... for the present, it seems to be intent on being a killing machine.

    IMO, such an instrument of ideology/hate/murder is not usually persuaded by anything less than Power. That would mean that the real issue involves the definition of power and the demonstrated resolve & ability to use that power to "persuade."  What kind of imaginative steps on this ever-smaller globe do you think should be considered with regard to ISIS/ISIL?  

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    Huh? (none / 0) (#2)
    by Dadler on Mon Dec 01, 2014 at 12:55:04 PM EST
    "In both Syria and Iraq, a broad strategy should be built, developed and implemented that explicitly aims to weaken IS' most significant strengths, without which the organization would quickly weaken:"

    That sentence makes no sense. Shouldn't the last word be "strengthen?" If not, um, well, I don't know.

    So, the guy on the right is the real (none / 0) (#3)
    by oculus on Mon Dec 01, 2014 at 01:07:52 PM EST
    deal. Not an actor on "Homeland."

    no the guy on the right (none / 0) (#5)
    by Jeralyn on Mon Dec 01, 2014 at 09:06:06 PM EST
    is Abu Wahib (real name is Shaker Wahib Al-Fahdawi)--see here. The guy that I wrote about who looked like the Homeland guy is Saddam Jamal.

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    Just put this in the open (none / 0) (#6)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Dec 02, 2014 at 09:07:21 AM EST
    but it's almost full

    Lebanon detains wife and son of Al-Baghdadi
    Family members of ISIL leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi detained by army at Syria-Lebanon border crossing, officials say.

    The questions are (none / 0) (#8)
    by jimakaPPJ on Tue Dec 02, 2014 at 12:10:07 PM EST
    Left to their own devices, they would end their own societies within decades. But, I have no doubt, we will help them lift their profiles.

    Would that be like, two decades or twenty two??

    And how many innocents will die in between times?

    Shall we, as a society, declare that we will ignore evil until it "self destructs?" When has evil done that?

    I have no answers and I am tired of seeing our blood and treasure spent on protecting a world where too many don't recognize evil and are willing to trade away their rights and freedoms for the pleasures of the moment.

    But if not us, who? If not now, when?

    The fundamental mission of the U.S (5.00 / 3) (#9)
    by jondee on Tue Dec 02, 2014 at 04:30:16 PM EST
    right along has been "protecting the world" from evil and tyranny?

    You sure you're not thinking of the Superman or the Green Lantern?

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