Saturday College Football OpenThread

The picks (2 units unless otherwise indicated): Stanford -5 over UCLA, Oklahoma State -7 (3 units) over TCU, USC +3 (3 units) over Notre Dame, Iowa +18 over Ohio State, Florida State -3 over Clemson, Oregon State -11 over California, South Carolina -7 (4 units) over Tennessee, Auburn +14 over Texas A&M, Boise State -22 over Nevada, Georgia -7 (4 units) over Vanderbilt, Cincinnati -15 over Connecticut, Michigan -10 over Indiana, Army +3 over Temple, Oregon -39 over Washington State, Oklahoma -23 (3 units) over Kansas, LSU -10 (3 units) over Mississippi.

Season record ATS - 66-55-2, +18 units.

Go Gators!

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    Go DUCKS... (5.00 / 1) (#1)
    by fishcamp on Sat Oct 19, 2013 at 10:31:07 AM EST
    they really quack me up...

    Oregon wins another. (none / 0) (#45)
    by caseyOR on Sun Oct 20, 2013 at 12:24:11 PM EST
    The Ducks beat the Cougars of Washington State. The score? Why it was 62-38.

    Go, Ducks!!


    Good for the Ducks (5.00 / 1) (#46)
    by Zorba on Sun Oct 20, 2013 at 01:41:40 PM EST
    But in another sport..........the Cardinals are still way, way better than the Cubs.  Too bad.    ;-)

    Seriously, Zorba? That is like saying (none / 0) (#47)
    by caseyOR on Sun Oct 20, 2013 at 05:18:01 PM EST
    the sun sets in the west or the sky is blue. However,  . . .

    Just wait until next year.


    Dream on, sister (none / 0) (#48)
    by Zorba on Sun Oct 20, 2013 at 05:40:53 PM EST
    Dream on.   ;-)

    Words and phrases I'd love to see disappear (5.00 / 1) (#3)
    by CoralGables on Sat Oct 19, 2013 at 10:34:45 AM EST
    from TL because they are old/tired/worn or just plain kindergarten-ish:

    Under the Bus
    11-Dimensional Chess
    Congress Critters
    Catfood Commission
    Word Salad
    Masters of the Universe

    House of Sh*theads... (5.00 / 3) (#7)
    by kdog on Sat Oct 19, 2013 at 10:50:49 AM EST
    still ok in lieu of Congress Critters? ;)

    House of mirrors? (none / 0) (#17)
    by Edger on Sat Oct 19, 2013 at 12:37:26 PM EST
    Saw a man with the jinx in the third degree
    From trying to deal with people, people you can't see
    Take away, take away, this house of mirrors
    Give away, give away, all the souvenirs
    We're all in the same boat ready to float off the edge of the world
    The flat old world
    The street is a sideshow from the peddler to the corner girl
    Life is a carnival--it's in the book
    Life is a carnival--take another look

    How about we replace them with... (5.00 / 3) (#8)
    by Dadler on Sat Oct 19, 2013 at 11:02:13 AM EST
    *Mime (hey, at least you don't have to hear a bunch of garbage)
    *Directly above the raging fire (lotta clearance room under busses, you might survive, but not being barbequed)
    *Miniature Golf
    *Itty Bitty Sh*tty Committee
    *WTF are you saying?
    *The Chinese

    I would like to give this post a ten at least (4.00 / 3) (#15)
    by DFLer on Sat Oct 19, 2013 at 12:09:33 PM EST
    but alas, give only go five.

    Fantastic, Big D!


    I dunno Oculus why you didn't like that.. (5.00 / 1) (#37)
    by DFLer on Sat Oct 19, 2013 at 05:54:56 PM EST
    I thought they were very funny...particular liked "Miniature Golf" as a sub for Chess

    And "kindergarten-ish" is a dismissive (5.00 / 1) (#10)
    by Mr Natural on Sat Oct 19, 2013 at 11:05:37 AM EST
    I'd like to see disappear.

    Fortunately, neither of us will get our wish granted.  Posters choose their own words from a universe of tropes.


    Kabuki, I love that word (5.00 / 1) (#11)
    by fishcamp on Sat Oct 19, 2013 at 11:05:45 AM EST
    a form of Japanese drama with highly stylized song, mime, and dance, now performed by only male actors using exaggerated gestures and body movements to express emotions...Apple dictionary

    ... provided that you also include the adjective "bad" in front of it.



    11 Dinensional Chess?!?!? (5.00 / 3) (#14)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Sat Oct 19, 2013 at 11:13:46 AM EST
    ... no doubt for fear of eliciting a host of sarcasm from you -- but it's certainly made quite a few rounds here at TL, particularly when discussing the Obama administration.

    And I further agree with banning the term "under the bus." It's been thrown about all too often here as well as everywhere else -- nearly as much as your stereotypical classic rock station plays Led Zeppelin's "Stairway to Heaven," an otherwise amazing song that unfortunately reached a saturation point with me long ago. Now, whenever I hear Jimmy Page's first few distinctive chords, I automatically tune out and change the station because I've developed an allergic reaction to it.


    I could be wrong (5.00 / 1) (#23)
    by sj on Sat Oct 19, 2013 at 03:15:54 PM EST
    but I think BTD coined it.

    That is just too funny (5.00 / 1) (#25)
    by MO Blue on Sat Oct 19, 2013 at 04:22:22 PM EST
    Cool. (none / 0) (#43)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sat Oct 19, 2013 at 10:20:13 PM EST
    As long as he doesn't play "Stairway to Heaven" on his podcast ...

    And also (5.00 / 2) (#24)
    by Politalkix on Sat Oct 19, 2013 at 04:12:56 PM EST
    Teh One
    Lack of imagination
    The serious people
    The cool people
    Trial balloon
    Overton window
    The Grand betrayal
    Death by Austerity

    I, too, would LOVE to (5.00 / 1) (#26)
    by sj on Sat Oct 19, 2013 at 04:25:15 PM EST
    get rid of "Death by Austerity". And as soon as the austerity fetish goes away that will happen by default.

    Pretty bad when you can't use leadership (5.00 / 3) (#28)
    by nycstray on Sat Oct 19, 2013 at 04:40:47 PM EST
    when discussing the POTUS, lol!~  ;)

    IOW, we should just not speak (5.00 / 5) (#27)
    by nycstray on Sat Oct 19, 2013 at 04:25:56 PM EST
    of "Teh One" or his policies unless we are willing to join the PomPom Brigade.

    It would be nice to see (none / 0) (#30)
    by christinep on Sat Oct 19, 2013 at 04:51:34 PM EST
    newer words and codes.  I'm sure that you can coin something equally compelling as the comfortable ones.

    I've got better things to do with my (5.00 / 3) (#31)
    by nycstray on Sat Oct 19, 2013 at 05:02:23 PM EST
    time, but thanks sweetie.

    nycstray: You are welcome, dear. (none / 0) (#35)
    by christinep on Sat Oct 19, 2013 at 05:43:11 PM EST
    Something tells me the "word police" (5.00 / 1) (#32)
    by MO Blue on Sat Oct 19, 2013 at 05:14:58 PM EST
    wouldn't like the newer ones anymore than the "comfortable ones."

    Normally things remain in use when discussing issues because they successfully get the message across. Starving Granny to Enrich Billionaires Committee is too long and cumbersome and leaves out the gentlemen as well as the sick and the disabled. Everyone knows and automatically gets the message when using "Cat Food Commission."


    Oh, I don't know . . . (5.00 / 2) (#33)
    by nycstray on Sat Oct 19, 2013 at 05:24:38 PM EST
    I'm kinda likin'
    Itty Bitty Sh*tty Committee



    That description would (5.00 / 2) (#34)
    by MO Blue on Sat Oct 19, 2013 at 05:40:40 PM EST
    describe most of the committees in D.C. There would be nothing to distinguish the Cat Food Commission from any other    
    Itty Bitty Sh*tty Committee



    That may be true, MO Blue (none / 0) (#36)
    by christinep on Sat Oct 19, 2013 at 05:47:48 PM EST
    Shorthand can be quite efficient ... so long as it doesn't become part of the "as if" club and the secret handshakes bunch :)

    Secret handshakes bunch - word restrictions (5.00 / 1) (#39)
    by MO Blue on Sat Oct 19, 2013 at 06:12:14 PM EST
    PomPom Brigade - unlimited word usage with an emphasize on discounting and dismissive words and phrases. I swear there must have been a run on the Republican's handbook of discounting, dismissive words and phrase usage.

    And yes, I realize that the PomPom Brigade falls into the same descriptive category as "Secret handshakes bunch." Thought I would point it out just in case you might have missed the reference.


    BTW, no one will know what the he!! they are (5.00 / 1) (#40)
    by MO Blue on Sat Oct 19, 2013 at 06:20:36 PM EST
    talking about when the politicians reference "The bipartisan, bicameral group." Which is probably why they have come up with that "new and improved {shakes head in disbelief}name for the Cat Food Commission 3.0....Or is it 4.0, I've lost count on how many times they have tried to cut SS and Medicare and implement the "Fix the Debt CEOs" recommendations but in such a way that each party can blame it on the other guy.

    Bicameral, great word MO. (5.00 / 1) (#41)
    by fishcamp on Sat Oct 19, 2013 at 06:36:17 PM EST
    Naturally I'v never heard it before but can't wait to use it at the gym.  I'm also going to use Anne's idea of mentioning the ACA has a mental health program if they want to get in touch with their anger.  They are all Republican weight lifters.  

    Secret handshakes? (none / 0) (#38)
    by sj on Sat Oct 19, 2013 at 06:02:46 PM EST
    As if.

    Imagination cannot be replaced (5.00 / 2) (#42)
    by Dadler on Sat Oct 19, 2013 at 09:20:04 PM EST
    It is the hallmark of a free society. Without it, the country dies. And we have ZERO political imagination in this nation right now. And since you will hear NO ONE in the MSM or politics even suggest there IS such a thing as political imagination, I hardly think it is overused -- of course, it's my fave and I use it all the time, so, um, I'm kinda biased. ;-)

    The last two don't register as overlyn (none / 0) (#5)
    by oculus on Sat Oct 19, 2013 at 10:44:21 AM EST
    Used here. But, then, I am a Tom Wolfe fan.

    New phrases (and stereotypes) (none / 0) (#22)
    by christinep on Sat Oct 19, 2013 at 03:15:41 PM EST
    Yay!  Kabuki is getting worn ... if we wanted to stick with Japanese, what about Noh? ... kind of has a nice sound to it.

    I'd like another game reference, too.  Monopoly might cut close; but, some would argue that strategy only ever is as non-complicated as Parchesi.  

    Being an old government type, the beating-into-the-ground phrases could make one choke.  Of course, there was "on/not on my radar screen" or "scenario" or "on the same page" or the recent "at the end of the day" or the particularly dreadful "heads up" (to which some of us would put our heads down when visiting DC types imparted some gossip beginning with "heads up".)  The saddest example may well have been the overuse of that wonderful word "excellent" in the '90s ... in the public & private sector -- Every award was an Award for Excellence in Something or Other ... It was used so often, that Excellence almost became Mediocre.


    AN AXE LENGTH AWAY, vol. 161 (5.00 / 2) (#4)
    by Dadler on Sat Oct 19, 2013 at 10:38:17 AM EST
    Attention to detail is kind of important in the fertility clinic game. (link)

    Volume 160
    Volume 159

    Have a good Saturday, peeps. I am going to chainsmoke my buddy's novel today, after starting it but being interrupted last weekend.

    Banksy Takes NY... (5.00 / 1) (#13)
    by kdog on Sat Oct 19, 2013 at 11:12:19 AM EST
    Banksy has been doing his thing in the NY the last couple weeks, very cool...but in a case of "why we can't have nice things", jealous far-lesser graffiti artists are defacing his works, and the NYPD is supposedly on the manhunt, even though no property owner has complained about his work.  It's an honor to have Banksy use your property as a canvas.

    Don't let the dueling haters get ya down Banksy, NY is lovin' it.  Stay as long as you like, and watch your back.

    "Consigliere" comes to mind... (5.00 / 1) (#16)
    by Edger on Sat Oct 19, 2013 at 12:14:02 PM EST
    Lobbyists Looking To Call Themselves Something Else: Here Are A Few Suggestions
    it appears that lobbyists are trying to "rebrand" themselves. Apparently the preferred name is "Government Relations."  Yes, it's the perfect kind of whitewash of "lobbyist."  However, the NY Times has suggested "Congress Plus" as a more appropriate name:
    We suggest "Congress Plus" as a more truthful name for an industry that employs more than 400 former members of the Senate and House, plus former Congressional staff members estimated in one study to total 5,400 people over a recent 10-year period. Not to mention untold dozens of lobbyists who smartly shift back and forth to Congressional committee posts as the electoral pendulum makes partisan swings that prove increasingly lucrative for experienced insiders.
    So, what are some other suggestions for how lobbyists should rebrand? Here are a few suggestions, and we welcome more in the comments:

    • "Corporate Congress"
    • "Corporate Congressional Liaison"
    • "Special Interest Wrangler"
    • "Government Guide"
    • "Legislative Influencer"
    • "Regulatory Realignment Specialist"
    • "Senate Sherpa"
    • "Government Guru"
    • "Congressional Connector"
    • "Lawfluencers"

    "My father made him an offer he couldn't refuse. Luca Brasi held a gun to his head, and my father assured him that either his brains, or his signature would be on the contract".
    -- Michael Corleone

    The Long Bomb (5.00 / 1) (#19)
    by Edger on Sat Oct 19, 2013 at 02:10:11 PM EST
    on Parallel Earth.

    Obama Gives Bush "Absolute Immunity" For Everything

    Days before Bradley - now Chelsea - Manning was sentenced to 35 years in prison for helping expose U.S. war crimes in Iraq, the Obama Department of Justice filed a petition in federal court arguing that the perpetrators of those crimes - Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld et al - enjoy "absolute immunity" against criminal charges or civil liability. The filing came in a suit brought by Sundus Shaker Saleh, an Iraqi single mother and refugee now living in Jordan, who alleges that the planning and waging of the Iraq war under false pretenses constituted a "crime of aggression" under a law used in the Nuremberg trials. With neither Congress nor Obama willing to hold Bush & Co. accountable for the Iraq catastrophe, supporters see the suit as a last-chance tactic to force the issue back into the public eye - an effort the Obama adminstration clearly opposes. More, all dispiriting, on the increasingly flawed Bush-Obama-lesser-of-two-evils thesis, and the current culture of impunity.

    Go Bruins! (none / 0) (#2)
    by Dadler on Sat Oct 19, 2013 at 10:34:01 AM EST
    Gotta honk for my UC boys.

    Latest alleged homegrown jihadi wanna-be... (none / 0) (#6)
    by kdog on Sat Oct 19, 2013 at 10:49:37 AM EST
    is from my neighborhood...crazy sh*t man.

    Feds have been watching/terrorizing the family for a year...is it a legit threat or another case of undercover agents pushing a confused youth to extremism and a cheap collar?    

    Time will tell, or not.  

    On a lighter note...good times at the Peter Wolf and The Midnight Travelers show last night, tight as a snare sweet as a pear.  

    Tonight it's my nephew's 21st birthday surprise party...all indications are he has no clue.  Maniacs collide...his family and his circle of friends.  Good buncha kids...should be a blast.

    Enjoy your weekend y'all...keep takin' 'em to the cleaners Mr. +18!  

    Sounds like an FBI initiated deal (none / 0) (#9)
    by Dadler on Sat Oct 19, 2013 at 11:04:49 AM EST
    Like all the other ones, it seems. But who knows? Meanwhile, some real dangerous character, you just know, is out there evading any trace of his/her presence.

    Apparently, according to the FEDs, (none / 0) (#12)
    by Mr Natural on Sat Oct 19, 2013 at 11:10:01 AM EST
    highly suggestible morons and idiots make the scariest terrrrrrrrrrrrorists.  And free sneakers, official al qaeda uniforms, not to mention the all important technical assistance and fake bomb making material seem to be the FED's preferred bait.

    Congrats to your nephew (none / 0) (#29)
    by sj on Sat Oct 19, 2013 at 04:41:06 PM EST
    ...er, he doesn't read TL, right?

    Wow - hope you did not bet on Louisville! (none / 0) (#18)
    by ruffian on Sat Oct 19, 2013 at 01:48:23 PM EST
    Way to go Knights!

    And way to go ... (none / 0) (#44)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sat Oct 19, 2013 at 10:22:02 PM EST
    ... Rebels, Commodores and Vols!

    site violator (none / 0) (#50)
    by fishcamp on Wed Oct 23, 2013 at 10:27:49 PM EST
    from Jakarta this time...feed your people.