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Wednesday Morning Open Thread

I'm traveling again tonight.

This afternoon in the World Cup, Germany plays Ghana and Australia faces Serbia. Ghana leads the group and is assured of going through with a draw. A win of course seal the group win. Germany goes through with a win or a draw and a Serbia draw or loss by less than 8. Serbia goes through with a win or a draw and a German loss. Australia goes through with a win and a German loss. Clear?

I like Germany over Ghana and a draw between Australia and Serbia. This result would put Germany through at the top of the group but Ghana could still qualify with on tiebreakers with Serbia. The goal count would decide it.

The USA probably would prefer to face Ghana or Serbia rather than Germany in Saturday's Round of 16 game. Therefore, root for a German win.

Open Thread.

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    Looks like... (5.00 / 1) (#1)
    by Tony on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 12:23:09 PM EST
    McChrystal has been fired.  Personally I believe this is the correct move by President Obama.

    Petreaus in (none / 0) (#2)
    by waldenpond on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 12:24:46 PM EST
    Looks like Petreaus is up.  Continuation of COIN.  Same ol, same ol.  Wonder how Biden feels.

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    I am rooting for Ghana and Germany as well (5.00 / 1) (#3)
    by CST on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 12:41:03 PM EST
    so I like your scenario, and I'd rather play Ghana in the next round.  Germany is my number 2 team and I really want at least one African team to move on.  I somehow doubt the Ivory coast is gonna beat North Korea by as much as the Portuguese did.  So go Ghana!  And go Germany!

    Germany against England? France knocked out early. (5.00 / 2) (#4)
    by steviez314 on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 12:46:32 PM EST
    Why does that sound so familiar?

    BP spill worse (5.00 / 2) (#26)
    by waldenpond on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 04:50:08 PM EST
    Looks awful.... they had to take the cap off.  An ROV accidently hit a valve and hydrates were getting in.  Two caps have been sitting on the floor next to it for a long time so I don't understand why another can't be dropped on top same day.  The lean of the BOP is estimated to be 6 or even up to 12%.

    60,000 barrels.

    I read earlier (5.00 / 1) (#27)
    by jbindc on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 04:54:33 PM EST
    That oil is now up on washing up on beaches in Pensacola.

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    Saw video (5.00 / 1) (#38)
    by waldenpond on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 06:18:17 PM EST
    Small dime size to two foot patties.  Clean up crews out but it looked like you might be able to get to the water in some places if you wanted (ick).  Reservations down 50% at some places.

    Parent
    We Won (5.00 / 1) (#29)
    by squeaky on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 05:07:28 PM EST
    Last place.... Surprise, Surprise...

    (Reuters) - Americans spend twice as much as residents of other developed countries on healthcare, but get lower quality, less efficiency and have the least equitable system, according to a report released on Wednesday.

    The United States ranked last when compared to six other countries -- Britain, Canada, Germany, Netherlands, Australia and New Zealand, the Commonwealth Fund report found....

    In 2007, health spending was $7,290 per person in the United States, more than double that of any other country in the survey...

    "We rank last on safety and do poorly on several dimensions of quality," Schoen told reporters. "We do particularly poorly on going without care because of cost. And we also do surprisingly poorly on access to primary care and after-hours care."

    reuters

    Josh is out of surgery (5.00 / 3) (#40)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 07:09:08 PM EST
    but still groggy and sleeping.  Things went smoothly.  Watching the documentary "Gasland" and HBO.

    Very cool... (none / 0) (#41)
    by kdog on Thu Jun 24, 2010 at 08:06:28 AM EST
    though I'm sure Moms won't be satisfied till the little guy is home...hang in there pal.

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    Thanks, I am (none / 0) (#42)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Jun 24, 2010 at 08:33:07 AM EST
    At least there are a few distractions around.  But Joshua's bird died last night.  I woke up shocked.  This really sucks, it isn't like a goldfish and you can go get another one that looks just like it.  I'm screwed damn it trying to smooth over this fact of life.  He was a little quiet yesterday but I didn't put it together he wasn't feeling good.

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    Great timing Mr. Bird... (none / 0) (#43)
    by kdog on Thu Jun 24, 2010 at 09:16:13 AM EST
    that sucks...but at least you know the little hero can handle adversity.

    Parent
    The Bird (none / 0) (#44)
    by squeaky on Thu Jun 24, 2010 at 11:40:37 AM EST
    Probably no accident, the bird's spirit was needed elsewhere, most likely in Joshua's new rib, or whatever he got put in. Needed a winged spirit inside as a guide. Smart bird, lucky Joshua, imo.

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    That is so sweet (none / 0) (#45)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Jun 24, 2010 at 01:12:34 PM EST
    I will talk to him about that.  He says he's Hindu now. There is a sort of Buddhist Hindu crossover out there :)  He said that the universe is too much for one God and asked me if there was a faith that had multi God and I don't know that much about the Hindu faith, but I told him that they seem to have that perception of the universe.  I just got back from the pet store with the name of a local bird breeder who handraises them.  Hopefully she can hook me up.  His bird was very sweet and loving, I will miss him.

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    Some Arizona Democrats (none / 0) (#5)
    by jbindc on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 01:20:00 PM EST
    Are asking the administration not to go ahead with the lawsuit regarding the Arizona controversial immigration law:

    Republican primaries in Arizona won't be decided until August, but the prospective challengers have been hitting Democrats for not supporting the law or not staking out a specific position.

    Democrats, meanwhile, are trying to maneuver past the controversial issue by focusing on border security and calling for action on immigration reform at the federal level. But if the Obama administration goes ahead with the suit, it will put the issue front and center during a campaign in which Democrats already face a tough environment.

    This week Mitchell was joined by two other vulnerable Democrats in expressing public opposition to the administration's legal strategy. Reps. Gabrielle Giffords (D-Ariz.) and Ann Kirkpatrick (D-Ariz.) are also urging the administration to reconsider its suit.



    Yeah (none / 0) (#6)
    by squeaky on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 01:30:26 PM EST
    Meanwhile:

    The Mexican government submitted arguments as a "friend of the court", or amicus curiae, meaning it is not a party to the case, but is offering a legal opinion which it believes has bearing on it.

    It is in support of a case brought by a group of civil rights organisations, including the Mexican American Legal Defense and Education Fund, the National Immigration Law Center, and the American Civil Liberties Union.

    'Discriminatory acts'
    It urges the federal court in Arizona to declare the law unconstitutional and stop it coming into effect.

    "Mexico has a duty to protect its citizens and ensure that their ethnic origin is not used as a basis for committing discriminatory acts," the Mexican foreign ministry said in a statement.

    Arizona's governor says the border is not secure
    It said it would respond forcefully to any violation of the fundamental human rights of all Mexicans in Arizona, independent of their immigration status.

    The action is one of five separate challenges to the Arizona immigration law.

    I do not think that the Democrats in Arizona are going to get much traction with their protests.

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    Sounds like AZ Dems... (none / 0) (#8)
    by kdog on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 01:54:03 PM EST
    are more worried about their sorry hides than truth, justice, and the true American way.

    Makes sense, they are pols:)

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    Isner-Mahut now (none / 0) (#7)
    by steviez314 on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 01:49:44 PM EST
    49-48 in the fifth set at Wimbledon.

    Un-freaking-real.

    John Stossel... (none / 0) (#9)
    by kdog on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 02:26:41 PM EST
    droppin' science and making mad sense.  Link

    But that's my broken record!...:)

    Yeah, but (none / 0) (#10)
    by jbindc on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 02:50:13 PM EST
    He also believes we should repeal the public accommodation section of the 1964 Civil Rights Act and doesn't believe that man-made global warming has net negative consequences. He may have won awards but he's kinda out there....

    Parent
    So what? (none / 0) (#11)
    by kdog on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 03:02:53 PM EST
    When you're right you're right...and he couldn't be more right on this issue.

    Parent
    You say the same (none / 0) (#12)
    by jbindc on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 03:15:43 PM EST
    about Rush, Glenn, Joe Lieberman, and any other Republican?  They can't always be wrong... :)

    Parent
    Sure... (none / 0) (#15)
    by kdog on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 03:24:30 PM EST
    I don't see the harm acknowledging obvious truth, no matter the truth-teller...those cats you mention just don't speak the truth very often.

    Parent
    You probably won't like this then (none / 0) (#22)
    by jbindc on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 04:22:30 PM EST
    From one of your favorite sources - the NY Daily News:

    The silliest debate of the silly season to date has to be the Democratic attorney general candidates' squabble over so-called reform of the Rockefeller drug laws.

    Five otherwise intelligent people are competing to be the top prosecutor of a state that has seen a worrying uptick in violent crime, much of it drug-related.

    SNIP

    But last year's law went way beyond repealing what was left of the Rockefeller laws to effectively decriminalize hard drugs in some circumstances.

    In fact, it officially declares drug addiction to be an excuse for committing other crimes - a radical and unprecedented step.

    Hard-core dealers - with multiple prior convictions - can avoid prison and get felony charges wiped out by showing that they're hooked on cocaine (or alcohol or marijuana) and agreeing to enter treatment.

    They can also ask the judge to seal their previous convictions for nonviolent crimes, effectively wiping their slate clean.

    They can even lie with impunity if asked about their record when applying for jobs.

    Businesses trying to hire honest workers - and families looking for trustworthy nannies - be damned.

    These are just a few of the reasons that the New York State District Attorneys Association - and Rice, as a member - opposed Schneiderman's bill, predicting that it would send exactly the wrong signal in the war on crime.

    Happily supporting the bill, meanwhile, were a couple of drug dealers caught on tape in a jailhouse conversation:

    "They just gave me the free-for-all," one said to the other, referring to what he called the "Drug Dealer Protection Law."

    "You know what that means? I'm burnin' the streets up when I go home. . . . Well, the Beast is being created right now."



    Parent
    There's a rancid, sensational (none / 0) (#24)
    by jondee on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 04:38:58 PM EST
    Daily News smell to that "drug dealers caught on tape" bit.

    Is there any kind of link available to a site where others can listen in on what those amazingly free speaking drug dealers had to say?

     

    Parent

    You doubt (none / 0) (#25)
    by jbindc on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 04:40:10 PM EST
    That drug dealers would be happy with this kind of bill?

    Parent
    Not the point (none / 0) (#28)
    by jondee on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 04:54:51 PM EST
    imagining in print what the average drug dealer would say and then presenting the imagined statements as factual in order to bolster an agenda, isn't exactly a good journalistic approach to take if you want others to respect your objectivity and accurate accounting of events.  

    Parent
    Here's (none / 0) (#31)
    by jbindc on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 05:15:41 PM EST
    The recording (as far as I can corroborate) - but every article from 2009 talking about this law refers to this.

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    Though I am strongly in favor... (none / 0) (#30)
    by kdog on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 05:11:55 PM EST
    of jail being avoided and lying about any felonies on job apps if you really wanna work, I don't like addiction being a valid legal defense for mugging old ladies.  

    Or The Daily News staff trying to ratchet up the drug war rhetoric...its usually the only viable alternative to the Times...not like one can read the Post for anything more than sh*ts and giggles, and forget the Dolans and how they ruined Newsday.

    Parent

    Daily News Viable? (none / 0) (#32)
    by squeaky on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 05:17:59 PM EST
    the only viable alternative to the Times

    Yeah if you use the newspaper to save on toilet paper. Maybe as a distraction in the summer heat, a bit of wind from turning the pages so fast, but that is about all, imo.

    Parent

    Kdog likes it (none / 0) (#33)
    by jbindc on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 05:22:33 PM EST
    He cites it frequently

    Parent
    What can I say... (none / 0) (#34)
    by kdog on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 05:22:43 PM EST
    the Voice of the People alone is worth the .50.

    By today's standards it ain't too bad...I hear ya on that not meaning much.

    Parent

    these afternoon games (none / 0) (#13)
    by CST on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 03:16:48 PM EST
    need to be over right now... I'm getting my result....

    No more goals guys, no more goals.

    woot woot (5.00 / 1) (#14)
    by CST on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 03:20:33 PM EST
    germany wins 1-0, australia wins 2-1

    Ghana and Germany move on - we play Ghana.

    Best soccer result possible today.

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    No gimmes... (none / 0) (#16)
    by kdog on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 03:30:23 PM EST
    for the USA, as we've seen, but as far as elimination round draws go you gotta be happy with Ghana, a very good chance for us to get to the quarterfinals.

    And beyond that, it is 30 years since the Miracle on Ice, how 'bout a Miracle on the Pitch?  We're sure shaping up as a team of destiny...the 2-nil comeback, the stoppage time goal.  Stranger things have happened.

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    no gimmies (none / 0) (#18)
    by CST on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 03:50:03 PM EST
    in the world cup period.

    I like our chances though.  Even getting up some hope of making it past the quarters into the semis.  But I'm trying not to get TOO greedy... :D

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    Not many.. (none / 0) (#19)
    by jondee on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 03:51:03 PM EST
    I'd say the chances of the U.S winning the Cup are about as likely as the chances of me being abducted tonight by extraterrestrials and reprogrammed into a 700 Club big donor. Not nearly enough offensive firepower and the history of some the best teams is that they save an extra gear for the latter rounds
    of the tournament.

    Not to be a wet blanket.

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    Allright... (none / 0) (#20)
    by kdog on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 03:55:56 PM EST
    I'll grant you as much chance as you being abducted by aliens, but I draw the line at the 700 Club donor bit...they've got a better chance than you ever giving the Robertson Crime Family a dime...even E.T. doesn't have brainwashing techniques that powerful holmes:)  

    Parent
    Yeah (none / 0) (#21)
    by Jen M on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 04:18:50 PM EST
    But we made it through to the second round in first place!!

    I'm HAPPY HAPPY HAPPY!!

    But I watched the game downstairs in the building's convenience store and the guy is from Ghana. He is a naturalized citizen and cheered when I told him US won, but I don't know how he will cheer the next game!

    He needs two flags to wave.

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    What do you call someone from Ghana? (none / 0) (#35)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 05:28:27 PM EST
    A Gonorrhean!

    (As told my math class by the Ghanian TA my freshman year.)

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    If he's from Ghana and Jewish, would you call (none / 0) (#36)
    by steviez314 on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 05:38:36 PM EST
    him a Ghaniff?

    (Yiddish explanation available for a fee)

    Parent

    One of the best TA's I ever had.

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    Blair as new head of BP? (none / 0) (#17)
    by jbindc on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 03:45:15 PM EST
    More bad news for Kwame Kilpatrick (none / 0) (#23)
    by jbindc on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 04:28:51 PM EST
    The walls are closing in. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.

    A 19-count federal indictment accuses former Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick of carrying out a scheme, hatched 11 years ago, to use his non-profit Kilpatrick Civic Fund to pay for personal and campaign expenses in violation of the law.

    If convicted of the charges, he faces up to 20 years in prison and a fine of $250,000.

    The indictment says that Kilpatrick, 40, currently imprisoned for probation violation, used civic fund money to pay friends and relatives and for items ranging from countersurveillance and anti-bugging equipment to yoga and golf lessons, golf clubs and summer camp for his children.

    Other expenses from the fund -- which had a stated purpose of voter education and improving Detroit's neighborhoods and image -- included personal travel for Kilpatrick, moving expenses, car rentals and leases, and a personal residence, the indictment alleges.

    Campaign expenses allegedly paid through the civic fund included public relations and consulting work.

    While Kilpatrick was mayor he received unreported taxable income of $640,000 between 2003 and 2008, according to a press release issued by the U.S. Attorney's Office in Detroit.

    The income included cash, private jet flights and personal expenses paid for by the Kilpatrick Civic Fund.

    Kilpatrick is accused of filing false tax returns, failing to declare the income and failing to declare that income in the tax years 2003-2007. He is accused of evading taxes in 2008.



    Bartholomew and the Oobleck (none / 0) (#39)
    by squeaky on Wed Jun 23, 2010 at 06:33:04 PM EST
    Remember that one... Well looks like Dr Seuss's fantasy is moving closer to reality.

    Perhaps a hoax or fantasy:

    When combined with the heating Gulf of Mexico waters, [Corexit's] molecules will be able to "phase transition" from their present liquid to a gaseous state allowing them to be absorbed into clouds and allowing their release as toxic rain upon all of Eastern North America. Even worse, should a Katrina like tropical hurricane form in the Gulf of Mexico while tens of millions of gallons of Corexit 9500 are sitting on, or near, its surface, the resulting toxic rain falling upon the North American continent could theoretically destroy all microbial life to any depth it reaches.

    disputed as impossible because oil can't evaporate, but wait:

    One of our readers points us to a report (PDF) from the former Minerals Management Service claiming that lighter crude oils can evaporate. So it might be possible that oil is mixing with rain.

    via digby