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3rd And Long

It's 3rd and long for the Democrats and some are already planning the 4th down play, punt:

With the enemy at the gates, and facing heavy casualties, Democrats in Congress are preparing to do what any beleaguered army does: head for the hills and leave booby-traps behind. The bigger the margin Republicans pile up next Tuesday, the less likely it is that the Democrats will be able to - or want to - do much when Congress reconvenes for a lame-duck session on November 15.

[. . .] Come January, the new Tea Party-infused GOP then would have to quickly confront the real-world consequences of its tax-cutting, budget-cutting, debt-reducing, anti-government rhetoric. "Some of our liberals are arguing that we have to do what we can in the lame-duck if it's going to be our last chance, but that is unrealistic if the numbers next week are bad," a top Democratic aide told me. "If we lose big, we'll punt. We'll have to."

Sounds like a Steny Hoyer aide to me. And I think he's right. Nothing worth doing will come out of the lame duck Congress and anything good that is done will redound to the credit of a GOP Congress. I think a mostly do nothing lame duck session (other than extending unemployment benefits) sounds like the right approach. Of course they can't say that publically. And I think a lot of hearings on the foreclosure crisis would be smart too. But no legislation, other than extending unemployment benefits.

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    Okay, there should now be no question (5.00 / 1) (#9)
    by Anne on Thu Oct 28, 2010 at 12:47:58 PM EST
    that the Dems are as dumb as a big box of rocks when it comes to politics.  

    Did the Dems hear the GOP declare that it was now time to punt when the Dems got the majority in 2006, and increased that majority in 2008?  I don't think so.

    When the GOP was in the majority, did they go out of their way to accommodate the Dems in the hope of crafting bi-partisan legislation and policy?  Uh, no.  Or perhaps that should be, hell no.  If anything, they went out of their way to completely shut the Dems out of the process altogether, because - and this is important - they are not afraid to be partisan, to work for the policies they believe in.  They don't care if the Dems don't like them.

    Dems, on the other hand, seem unable to use partisanship - or leadership - to enact legislation based on better policy - on policy they are supposed to know is better.

    Am I surprised that the Dems are already game-planning how to concede and give away more things to the GOP that matter to us little people whose lives will be negatively affected by their actions?  Sadly, no.

    But, seriously, if they really are this dumb, if this really is a preview of coming attractions, all I can say is, if Obama and the Dems thought the whining from the left was bad before, they ain't seen nothin' yet.


    Dumb or just kabuki theater? (5.00 / 4) (#11)
    by MO Blue on Thu Oct 28, 2010 at 12:58:17 PM EST
    Maybe we are just getting the policies that both parties want regardless of their rhetoric or which party is in the majority.

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    Indeed, and did you listen (5.00 / 1) (#13)
    by Inspector Gadget on Thu Oct 28, 2010 at 03:13:54 PM EST
    to Obama's message during the Jon Stewart interview on how the R's create this divided house? His political knowledge is quite limited IMHO.


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    What the Democrats in Congress (5.00 / 3) (#14)
    by cal1942 on Thu Oct 28, 2010 at 04:38:56 PM EST
    really needed was leadership.  

    I'm not talking about Reid and Pelosi.  I'm talking about decisive direction from the White House.  

    There's been no substantial force of overall leadership in the Democratic Party in years.  The stage was set for Obama to be that force but he completely missed the boat.  I don't believe he had even the vaguest clue of what had to be done and certainly no idea of how to pull it off even if he knew what was needed most.  The moment came and went, an opportunity squandered.

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    The Republicans passed a lot (none / 0) (#12)
    by inclusiveheart on Thu Oct 28, 2010 at 01:07:30 PM EST
    of legislation in that 2006 lame duck session, too.

    The Dems could try to do the same and might even get some kudos for trying, but they don't understand that at all.

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    a beleaguered army, (5.00 / 2) (#10)
    by cpinva on Thu Oct 28, 2010 at 12:55:35 PM EST
    with good leadership, would be planning a counter-attack, to exploit the weakness of the enemy, having outrun its supply lines, its soldiers exhausted, and low on ammo and supplies.

    see: battle of the bulge, and the chinese intervention in korea. in both instances, enemy forces were initially extremely successful in overwhelming allied forces, and pushing them well back. however, as supplies dwindled and losses mounted, both were eventually thrown back to where they started, by virtue of well-planned counter offensives. lesser leaders would have retreated.

    this is how wars, and politics are won. unfortunately for the democratic party, it's led by a bunch of mcclellans, getting enemy troop data from latter day allen pinkertons.

    Oooh. (none / 0) (#16)
    by gyrfalcon on Thu Oct 28, 2010 at 11:37:42 PM EST
    Terrific analogy.  Well said.

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    The new Congress will produce nothing, but ... (5.00 / 1) (#15)
    by RonK Seattle on Thu Oct 28, 2010 at 08:18:59 PM EST
    ... at the same time, GOP leadership will be obligated to produce individual legislative achievements for 50 (or 75 or 100) first term GOP House members.

    It'll be interesting to see how they manage that.

    maybe repealing (none / 0) (#1)
    by Capt Howdy on Thu Oct 28, 2010 at 11:24:33 AM EST
    DADT?

    Good luck with that (5.00 / 2) (#2)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Thu Oct 28, 2010 at 11:26:12 AM EST
    Not gonna happen.

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    I said (none / 0) (#3)
    by Capt Howdy on Thu Oct 28, 2010 at 11:27:34 AM EST
    maybe more in hope than expectation

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    Same with extending only (none / 0) (#5)
    by lilburro on Thu Oct 28, 2010 at 11:29:53 AM EST
    middle class tax cuts.  Won't happen either.  Despite what the Obama fans/"Congress can't..." people said.

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    Clearly (none / 0) (#7)
    by andgarden on Thu Oct 28, 2010 at 12:02:08 PM EST
    But what about that impressive Obama Tax Cuts (none / 0) (#4)
    by BTAL on Thu Oct 28, 2010 at 11:28:54 AM EST
    program from just a few weeks ago?  

    Not going to pass (5.00 / 3) (#6)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Thu Oct 28, 2010 at 11:33:20 AM EST
    without the tax cuts for the rich so let the GOP and Obama do it themselves.

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    Not so sure (none / 0) (#20)
    by BobTinKY on Fri Oct 29, 2010 at 01:33:55 PM EST
    it's the right thing to do and those congresspeople lose next week have the freedom to do what is right.  McCain, not having to face voters again, was against the Bush tax cuts and might provide support for renewing all but the high end cuts.  He'll stab anyone in the back including those who just the week before returned him to the Senate.

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    Don't they have to vote on the catfood commission? (none / 0) (#8)
    by TJBuff on Thu Oct 28, 2010 at 12:46:53 PM EST


    Best thing that could happen is to let all (none / 0) (#17)
    by Bornagaindem on Fri Oct 29, 2010 at 06:49:50 AM EST
    the Bush Tax cuts expire- because the will if they are not extended in the lame.

    My bet? The dems -with obama leading the band- will pass the whole thing and give the repugs the cover they need. All for naught- the whole 2008 hopey changy thing all for naught.

    PATRIOT ACT renewal (none / 0) (#18)
    by Ben Masel on Fri Oct 29, 2010 at 11:09:13 AM EST
    The last extension expires in Feb., so it's on the table for the Senate Judiciary Committee.

    Middle class tax cuts and climate legislation (none / 0) (#19)
    by BobTinKY on Fri Oct 29, 2010 at 01:30:34 PM EST
    why not?  Those leaving won't have ot asnwer for it and those staying are in seats that are safe.