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Journalists Ling And Lee Now Home

NYTimes:

Former President Bill Clinton arrived in Los Angeles Wednesday morning after a dramatic 20-hour visit to North Korea, in which he won the freedom of two American journalists, opened a diplomatic channel to North Korea’s reclusive government and dined with the North’s ailing leader, Kim Jong-il. The private plane, carrying Mr. Clinton and the journalists, Laura Ling, 32, and Euna Lee, 36, landed at 5:50 a.m. Pacific Standard Time at Burbank Airport outside of Los Angeles.

The two women stepped off the plane in jeans and sweaters, rushing down the stairs to be reunited with their families, who clustered around them. Ms. Lee, in tears, picked up and embraced her five-year-old daughter, Hannah. Mr. Clinton stepped off the plane a few moments later, embracing Al Gore, the founder of the media company that employs the journalists. “Thirty hours ago, Euna Lee and I were prisoners in North Korea,” Ms. Ling said in brief remarks to reporters, blinking back tears. “We feared that at any moment we could be prisoners in a hard labor camp. Then suddenly we were told that we were going to a meeting. We were taken to a location and when we walked through the doors, we saw standing before us President Bill Clinton,” she said, recounting the final moments of her ordeal. “We were shocked, but we knew instantly in our hearts that the nightmare of our lives was finally coming to an end. And now we stand here home and free.”

A happy ending.

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    from STINQUE (5.00 / 1) (#1)
    by Capt Howdy on Wed Aug 05, 2009 at 09:11:24 AM EST
    Oh, Dick Morris.

       It was wrong to do it. This trip gives North Korea the ability to act like the good guy in world public opinion by releasing people they shouldn't have seized in the first place. Considering their record, bomb explosions, and missile tests, we should not be in the business of letting North Korea score propaganda victories.

    One: the two people released were journalists.  Don't you think that they would have some decent reporting to do about the justice system of North Korea, and areas of improvement with regard to, um, justice?

    Two: Bubba got a free-roll on intel regarding the health (physical, mental, otherwise) of Kim Jong-il.  That might be somewhat useful to Barry et al.

    Three: See that picture up there?  That's the photo going to 99.9% of the world right now.  Pictures speak louder than words.  In particular, yours.

    So: a propaganda victory?  Dude.

    Dick Morris? (5.00 / 2) (#2)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Wed Aug 05, 2009 at 09:13:29 AM EST
    Who cares?

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    no one of couse (none / 0) (#5)
    by Capt Howdy on Wed Aug 05, 2009 at 09:20:47 AM EST
    but he keeps getting a platform.  I just think its funny that if one of the Clintons found a cure for cancer he would  be concerned for all the doctors and health care professionals who would lose work.

    although John Bolton (who care #2) agrees with him.

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    What platform? (none / 0) (#7)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Wed Aug 05, 2009 at 09:24:20 AM EST
    Fox News? That's like a GOP press release.

    Honestly, Dick Morris?

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    a GOP press realease (none / 0) (#9)
    by Capt Howdy on Wed Aug 05, 2009 at 09:29:20 AM EST
    that still happens to have the most eyeballs in cable news.

    Live + Same Day Cable News Daily Ratings for July 29, 2009

    P2+ Total Day
    FNC - 1,279,000 viewers
    CNN - 642,000 viewers
    MSNBC -368,000 viewers
    CNBC - 209,000 viewers
    HLN - 2989,000 viewers

    P2+ Prime Time
    FNC - 2,496,000viewers
    CNN-- 990,000 viewers
    MSNBC -785,000 viewers
    CNBC - 277,000 viewers
    HLN - 523,000viewers

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    People who are not going to be persuaded (none / 0) (#18)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Wed Aug 05, 2009 at 10:31:23 AM EST
    It matters not.

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    I am curious (5.00 / 1) (#6)
    by Steve M on Wed Aug 05, 2009 at 09:21:22 AM EST
    how so many neo-cons just "know" that these journalists are totally innocent, because we're the good guys and North Korea is the bad guy.  Do we have any idea whether they actually crossed into North Korea?  Of course not.  My understanding is that it's a disputed border region where the boundary is not subject to precise definition.

    When we patrol the Rio Grande, it's called controlling the borders.  When a rogue state like North Korea does it, it's kidnapping, terrorism, you name it.  But without drawing an equivalency between the two countries, getting to control your own borders is one of the most basic incidents of sovereignty.

    The idea that Clinton was "rewarding bad behavior" is ludicrous.  Testing long-range missiles, that's bad behavior.

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    we dont (5.00 / 1) (#10)
    by Capt Howdy on Wed Aug 05, 2009 at 09:34:10 AM EST
    usually send them to work gulags.

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    Indeed (none / 0) (#11)
    by Steve M on Wed Aug 05, 2009 at 09:39:56 AM EST
    Like I said, the two countries are not equivalent.  That doesn't mean that when there's a dispute about whether these people crossed a border, with none of us having any evidence whatsoever either way, that North Korea must automatically be wrong.

    Some people want to treat this as an act of kidnapping or terrorism and use that as a basis for an absolutely counterproductive foreign policy stance.  I think it's worth pointing out that they actually have no idea if these journalists violated a national border.

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    I should have said (none / 0) (#12)
    by Capt Howdy on Wed Aug 05, 2009 at 09:43:39 AM EST
    we dont "send" them to work gulags we "let them" do the work that americans do not want.

    even if the do get paid not sure how much of a difference that really is.


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    I'm happy they're home, but.... (none / 0) (#19)
    by Pragmatist on Wed Aug 05, 2009 at 10:33:46 AM EST
    What did it cost us?  We may never know.  The bottom line is that these ladies put themselves into this situation.  They should have worked in an area where the border is defined and thus not placed themselves in a compromising position (assuming they are truly innocent: i.e.; they didn't intend to cross the border for their story).  Hand-held GPS devices are inexpensive and fairly accurate.  hence; there is very little excuse for anyone to "accidentally" violate another country's borders (3 AMCITS in Iran).  Again, politics aside, I want to know what the Q-P-Q is.

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    You saw it (5.00 / 1) (#20)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Wed Aug 05, 2009 at 10:37:34 AM EST
    A picture with Bill Clinton.

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    I hope you're correct, but... (none / 0) (#23)
    by Pragmatist on Wed Aug 05, 2009 at 10:50:10 AM EST
    I'm to cynical to believe that this didn't/hasn't/won't cost us more than a photo op.

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    It is cynical to NOT believe (none / 0) (#26)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Wed Aug 05, 2009 at 11:11:54 AM EST
    that was the sum cost.

    Silly in fact.

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    Who is a private citizen (none / 0) (#32)
    by MKS on Wed Aug 05, 2009 at 02:06:06 PM EST
    So the U.S. government per se didn't give anything to Kim.

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    Doubt it cost us anything (5.00 / 2) (#21)
    by Steve M on Wed Aug 05, 2009 at 10:42:25 AM EST
    Probably a net gain for our side, an excuse to explore North Korea's state of mind with a high-level meeting when we've been pretty consistently icy towards them for some time now.

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    OMG, now the constructive thing to do (5.00 / 1) (#29)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Aug 05, 2009 at 11:37:35 AM EST
    is blame victims of certain situations and spend the day worrying and picking through whatever bones of a tiny corpse I can find that this all cost ME something.  This is the same mindset that keeps our healthcare industry in the ripoff mess it is too.  I know that everyone has a right to their opinions but SHEESH

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    Not blaming the "victim", but... (none / 0) (#37)
    by Pragmatist on Thu Aug 06, 2009 at 06:25:12 AM EST
    people MUST assume responsibility for their action.  When you willingly illegally enter a closed country, like the DPRK, you assume a risk.  If you're caught, you should be willing to accept the consequences for your action.  That said, our St. Dept. should do all that it can to secure your release, but that has to be balanced to ensure that our country isn't held hostage during negotiations.

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    Perhaps the story was not (none / 0) (#25)
    by nycstray on Wed Aug 05, 2009 at 11:06:40 AM EST
    happening where the "border was defined"? Reporters often have to go to the story . . . .


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    What did it cost us? (none / 0) (#28)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Aug 05, 2009 at 11:34:10 AM EST
    If all NK got was a (none / 0) (#17)
    by Cards In 4 on Wed Aug 05, 2009 at 10:21:32 AM EST
    propaganda victory Morris is wrong.  Anyone that thinks NK scored some great victory because they got a picture of Clinton with their midget leader is not worth spending time worrying about.

    It will only matter if they got some concession from the US, even something minor.  But I believe Clinton is too smart for that and knew they would be happy with pictures.

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    A triumph (5.00 / 2) (#24)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Aug 05, 2009 at 11:00:47 AM EST
    With so many things not going well because the past administration blew the h*ll out of everything and it is going to take major rebuilding to even know what stable feels like again.....it is nice that at least someone with U.S. credentials can go talk to the "axis of evil" and save two women journalists from a hard labor camp that would have almost surely killed them.

    Thoughts (5.00 / 1) (#30)
    by TheRealFrank on Wed Aug 05, 2009 at 12:12:28 PM EST
    It's nice to see happy reunited families. And Bill Clinton was very gracious: he waited a few minutes before getting off the plane, and did not make a statement.

    It's also nice to see Clinton and Gore hug and stand together. It reminds me of the 90s. Good times.


    I teared up at the video of the return (5.00 / 1) (#31)
    by Jen M on Wed Aug 05, 2009 at 12:21:38 PM EST
    I also watched the video of the two journalists being released.  It seemed such a contrast to the Clinton arrival.

    On Mr. Clinton's arrival there was pomp and flowers from children. As the contingent left there was no nonsense "sedate" double timing as the journalists were escorted to the plane.  

    Can't say as I blame them.  I can just imagine them concentrating entirely on those stairs and the open door at the top.

    Watched their arrival live on TV (none / 0) (#3)
    by caseyOR on Wed Aug 05, 2009 at 09:13:49 AM EST
    My eyes teared up when I saw Ling and Lee and their families. Everyone so happy and so grateful to all who helped bring them home.

    Yup, that was a great moment (none / 0) (#4)
    by andgarden on Wed Aug 05, 2009 at 09:19:22 AM EST
    The whole thing played out so well (none / 0) (#8)
    by vicndabx on Wed Aug 05, 2009 at 09:25:38 AM EST
    It seemed like a Hollywood movie w/o the background story.  From the tension building talk of the journalists release and flight home, to incongruent photos of Kim Jong smiling and Bill serious, to the tear-jerker ending with Euna Lee hugging her daughter and husband.  

    (OK, I'll admit it, as a parent, I was choked up myself.)

    I will also say, I soooo like the fact the Bill stayed in the background and didn't make a statement at the hangar.  Cuts all the crap by the media off at the knees and lets the story be about what it should be about - safe return of family members.

    The headline at HuffPo: (none / 0) (#13)
    by Dr Molly on Wed Aug 05, 2009 at 09:56:07 AM EST
    "Bill Upstages Hillary...Once Again"

    unbelievable (none / 0) (#14)
    by Capt Howdy on Wed Aug 05, 2009 at 09:57:30 AM EST
    well maybe not so much

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    The A list "progressive" (none / 0) (#15)
    by dk on Wed Aug 05, 2009 at 10:03:28 AM EST
    blogs are still doing Rush Limbaugh proud, I see.

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    Not going over well re (none / 0) (#16)
    by nycstray on Wed Aug 05, 2009 at 10:18:36 AM EST
    the comments. HP seems to be offending their readers . . .

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    It's about time (none / 0) (#35)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Aug 05, 2009 at 04:06:35 PM EST
    That is so funny (none / 0) (#36)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Aug 05, 2009 at 04:12:42 PM EST
    Why can't they put up the real headline 'Journalists Freed Spurs on Hot Clinton Make Up Sex While Discovering Who is on Top'?

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    Added video (none / 0) (#22)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Wed Aug 05, 2009 at 10:47:11 AM EST
    Watch out for the pop ad.

    I went to Faux News (none / 0) (#27)
    by Chuck0 on Wed Aug 05, 2009 at 11:31:07 AM EST
    and read the comments left there on this story. It's astounding the vicious, vile and evil remarks left there by the so-called conservatives in this country. This people are despicable beyond description. If these are my neighbors and fellow countrymen, I really would prefer not to breathe the same air as these reprobates. It strengthens my resolve to sell my house as soon as economically viable and flee to Europe. I'm certainly envious of my sister in Nanjing.

    Remember, those (none / 0) (#33)
    by MKS on Wed Aug 05, 2009 at 02:09:31 PM EST
    socialist countries are h*ll holes....just gawdawful places to live....

    No way would you ever find me in the south of France or in Spain....

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    Cio! (none / 0) (#34)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Wed Aug 05, 2009 at 02:12:15 PM EST