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    I don't know if anyone watched the (5.00 / 4) (#2)
    by Anne on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 02:45:08 PM EST
    Roddick-Murray semi-final at Wimbledon today, but it was a great match - I don't know if Roddick has ever played such a complete game as he did today.

    Don't know if Roddick is up to beating Federer in the final, but if the match is as good as today's, it will certainly be fun to watch!

    We're doomed (5.00 / 3) (#4)
    by gyrfalcon on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 02:48:54 PM EST


    LBJ rolls over in his grave (5.00 / 3) (#5)
    by andgarden on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 02:53:09 PM EST


    It's clear the Democrats need (5.00 / 2) (#8)
    by Anne on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 03:06:19 PM EST
    a lesson in what "leadership" is, because Harry Reid seems to embody what I have taken to calling "failureship;" I'd say that he ought to be replaced, but I honestly can't think of anyone who could really take the Senate Dems by the throat and pull them together into one relatively cohesive and united caucus.  Sad, because with a caucus organized and standing together, there is so much that could be accomplished.

    We will, instead, settle for Harry Reid's failureship.

    Argh.

    Bending over backward to be (5.00 / 1) (#17)
    by brodie on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 03:46:45 PM EST
    fair to Harry Reid, he does have  Joe Lieberman and Ben Nelson to deal with, not to mention your Evan Bayh and Mary Landrieu soft centrist/corp sellout types, along with 5-6 other difficult ones like corporatist DiFi.

    Perhaps the strong-arm approach with overt threats is the only one which will accomplish the purpose on health care, but there isn't a lot of great precedent in the senate Dem camp to use as a roadmap.  And whatever Lyndon did as ML in the 50s, the result was largely some lukewarm legislation, mostly in pre-arrangement with Ike.  As president, the actual record shows, on some key legislation, that factors other than Johnson were the major difference, though he did play a role (just not always in the overbearing way some believe he did).

    Now, my nominee for most effective Dem ML of the 20th C is not Lyndon but Mike Mansfield ('61-77), the guy who presided over the caucus responsible for the most progressive legislation since the New Deal.  And his approach was, famously, often to the great frustration of fellow Dems, the low-key persuasive one, appealing to the patriotism and better instincts of his reluctant colleagues.  

    Of course, different era back then, and substantially different oppo party and leadership.  

    The jury is still out on whether Reid can even be Mansfield Lite, but he'll need to be at least that to get meaningful health care reform passed.  

    "Bending over" (5.00 / 1) (#21)
    by Anne on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 03:52:22 PM EST
    seems to be the problem...backwards, forwards - whichever.

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    Well, compared to his (none / 0) (#28)
    by brodie on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 04:04:37 PM EST
    weakling predecessor, the limp noodle who caved easily on Iraq and tax cuts for the rich, Reid is a down 'n' dirty street fighter.

    But Harry's gotta produce, else he's out of a leadership job, one he really wants to hold on to, and the Dems are going down in 2010 and beyond.  

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    Sarah Palin Live (5.00 / 0) (#52)
    by Jlvngstn on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 04:58:58 PM EST
    How long before her talk show airs?  If i were her I would cash that chip in before the casino closes....

    Nah, book and promo tour already (none / 0) (#54)
    by nycstray on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 05:07:36 PM EST
    maybe afterward she'll brand herself and higher Axelrod?

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    um that would be 'hire'! (none / 0) (#55)
    by nycstray on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 05:08:08 PM EST
    legal debt (none / 0) (#89)
    by Jlvngstn on Sun Jul 05, 2009 at 03:35:23 PM EST
    and window of opportunity.  Perhaps I am shallow but life does not present most with these types of opportunites often.  She is incredibly popular with a sizable following on the right and despised by a fair number on the left.  I would be happy to see her with a talk show (i wouldn't watch) or monetizing the situation.  She could pay her legal debt and provide for her children's children.  

    BTD- I thought the same thing, timing on this screams of not wanting attention, I said it to my wife first thing.  She wanted to fly under the radar.  I don't like her, but I would love to see her make some dough for her angst.......

    Not that she is going to do it, but i hope she does.

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    Palin Resigning (none / 0) (#1)
    by squeaky on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 02:44:08 PM EST
    Gov. Sarah Palin will resign her office in a few weeks, she said during a news conference at her home Friday morning. Lt. Gov. Sean Parnell will be inaugurated at the Governor's Picnic at the end of the month.

    raw story

    My guesses:  a new scandal afoot, or she is going for Prez in 2012, or she landed a major teevee gig.  

    What the heck? (5.00 / 1) (#6)
    by Tony on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 02:56:53 PM EST
    Did not see that one coming.

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    Me too. (none / 0) (#9)
    by Fabian on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 03:07:46 PM EST
    I thought she had the kind of ruthlessness that comes in handy in a political career.  Hard to imagine a private sector gig that would be as good for her, unless it's a wingnut welfare position.

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    Hard To Imagine? (none / 0) (#11)
    by squeaky on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 03:17:39 PM EST
    10 million dollar contract on teevee? Launching pad for further political ambitions.

    $$$$$ + fame = success.  

    I would peg her as being interested in that sort of path. Alaska is too provincial for her level of drive and ambition, imo.

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    It's hard for me to imagine that her (5.00 / 2) (#19)
    by Anne on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 03:51:04 PM EST
    political fortunes will improve by increasing her visibility between now and whenever the race for 2012 begins.

    I think there's something else going on here, but I have no idea what it is.

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    Maybe she is moving to (none / 0) (#7)
    by KeysDan on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 02:59:52 PM EST
    South Carolina where she senses an opportunity to give it another try.

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    Surprising news. (none / 0) (#10)
    by Anne on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 03:10:02 PM EST
    I caught the end of the presser on CNN and unfortunately was not fast enought to change the channel at the top of the hour, so got to hear Suzane Malveaux assure the viewing audience that they would have the latest news on Michael Jackson, but first...some real news about Sarah Palin.

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    cable news strikes again! (none / 0) (#15)
    by Fabian on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 03:32:51 PM EST
    Where's Froomkin?  I need a dose of real journalism - fast!

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    Seems like (none / 0) (#12)
    by Jen M on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 03:26:20 PM EST
    the wrong governor resigned.

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    Video (none / 0) (#13)
    by squeaky on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 03:32:05 PM EST
    Here.

    She seems pretty hyper..

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    OK I watched the wholte video but--why (5.00 / 0) (#33)
    by oculus on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 04:12:00 PM EST
    exactly is she resigning?  Also, that quote from Gen. MacArthur gave me pause.

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    Didn't she say several times (none / 0) (#36)
    by nycstray on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 04:16:02 PM EST
    that she gave her reasons? And I scratched my head every time, lol!~

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    Watch it again (none / 0) (#83)
    by Inspector Gadget on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 11:25:09 PM EST
    she was quite clear with her reasons. We all sit and complain about our tax money being spent on things like fly-by photo ops of Air Force One, so we surely should be able to grasp that the governor of Alaska sees nothing positive in her administration and her own time being spent primarily having to deal with the non-stop distractions of manufactured scandals and speculations.

    Who here wants Gov Sanford to resign for his recent revelations? It doesn't really matter what the scandal is, it's distracting. Gawd, I can't count how many times I heard people demanding Clinton step down from the presidency for the ethical misstep of lying about sex.

    I'm laughing at how many talking heads and commenters are making her resignation such a big deal when they've gone to endless means to claim she's incompetent and stupid. What can this woman do to avoid criticism?


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    So basically (2.00 / 1) (#84)
    by Socraticsilence on Sat Jul 04, 2009 at 12:08:02 AM EST
    you think she finally realized her own incompetence?

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    I didn't realize I was only watchin the second 1/2 (none / 0) (#85)
    by nycstray on Sat Jul 04, 2009 at 12:14:05 AM EST
    and a crappy version of the video. I can't view the original cnn vid on my computer at the moment, but what I saw on TV varied quite a bit in quality, and changes it. For starters, the nature in the background is more obvious than her breathing.

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    Local news just said (none / 0) (#40)
    by nycstray on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 04:32:20 PM EST
    and she gave no clear reason.

    Guess there's lots of head scratchin' going on, lol!~

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    Very confusing. (5.00 / 0) (#45)
    by brodie on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 04:43:18 PM EST
    She threw in a mixed sports metaphor too.

    Something about how a good point guard in basketball needs to be able to look up and see the basket, then later she talked about the importance of being able to call an audible and pass the ball for the good of the team.  

    Someone can correct me, but I thought it was quarterbacks and not point guards that called audibles.

    Anyway, she's done for nat'l politics in the near term.  Too flakey.  And awfully thin skinned.

    Another Gooper embarrassment, in a party with a richness of embarrassments.

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    She also said a point guard (none / 0) (#58)
    by Peter G on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 05:21:56 PM EST
    has to keep her eye on the basket while breaking through a press (or was it "the press"?), and then she said she had to keep her eye on the ball.  I'm not a sports guy, so I need to ask:  Which eye is it that looks at the basket, and which one at the ball?  I'm confused.

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    Just call it (5.00 / 0) (#59)
    by CoralGables on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 05:26:46 PM EST
    A mixed up metaphor

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    Reason She Gave (none / 0) (#42)
    by squeaky on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 04:36:36 PM EST
    She doesn't want to damage (embarrass)  Alaska any more with the Press that follows her every word, move, and of course faux pas.

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    Oh, so THAT'S how we get politicians (none / 0) (#44)
    by nycstray on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 04:39:43 PM EST
    to resign?

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    Pols are Pols (none / 0) (#46)
    by squeaky on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 04:43:25 PM EST
    Not to be believed, and this "reason for leaving" was a doozy, imo.

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    I must say, she has totally cracked me up (none / 0) (#48)
    by nycstray on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 04:50:45 PM EST
    Pre Huff Post (always reliable!) (none / 0) (#51)
    by oculus on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 04:57:40 PM EST
    Gov. Palin twittered that she will twitter in more detail later.  Also, an FPer on Huff Post opines she may have resigned because she is pregnant.  (Huh??????)

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    Let's see, I'll take the twitter part (none / 0) (#53)
    by nycstray on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 05:05:19 PM EST
    as a "could very well happen", ain't touching the pregnancy part! {headdesk}

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    Ted Stevens? (none / 0) (#56)
    by squeaky on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 05:11:36 PM EST
    I thought so too (none / 0) (#31)
    by byteb on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 04:06:50 PM EST
    mega cups of expresso hyper

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    Very weird (none / 0) (#34)
    by nycstray on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 04:13:50 PM EST
    that loud inward breath was very strange, don't remember that from before. It's was also very rambling. I couldn't figure out if she was talking about a power play there, or the nation the way she was talking. First I thought something was up in Alaska (basketball analogy), but towards then end when she said Americans were looking north . . . . ?

    Oh well, def an interesting turn of events . . .

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    Yeah (none / 0) (#37)
    by squeaky on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 04:23:34 PM EST
    What was up with the "looking north" line. I could only come up with the notion that she was talking about god. Of course the first thought, which makes no sense was that she was talking about Russia.

    But maybe her geography is so bad that she meant South Carolina.

    Who knows, but she did grab the spotlight, July 4, MJ and all. Sounds like she is got a plan, whatever that is.

    Has to be prez ambitions, imo.

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    From (none / 0) (#41)
    by squeaky on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 04:32:59 PM EST
    The transcript:

    Remember Alaska... America is now, more than ever, looking North to the Future. It'll be good. So God bless you, and from me and my family - to ALL Alaska - you have my heart


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    I guess because I don't believe in God (none / 0) (#47)
    by nycstray on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 04:44:26 PM EST
    I thought she was talking about her and her location, lol!~ Of course many of us are looking north for our future, just a different north . . .UHC!

    I thought it was kinda funny when she said she had thought a lot about it and had to correct herself to add in pray . . . Dawg forbid a politician makes a decision (esp a R) without consulting God . . . .

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    I Think Palin Just Moved Ahead of Mark Sanford (none / 0) (#14)
    by john horse on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 03:32:08 PM EST
    as the frontrunner for GOP presidential nomination.

    I think Palin started to like all the attention that she got as the VP nominee but she discovered that it was hard to get much media interest when you're the governor of Alaska

    Lets call it what it is - a cry for attention.  Can you imagine Palin as VP.  Another reason I'm glad Obama won.

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    Lots of Republicans would (none / 0) (#16)
    by KeysDan on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 03:43:25 PM EST
    like to send her off to Siberia--she could, at least, see her house from Russia.

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    Doesn't matter (none / 0) (#18)
    by jbindc on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 03:47:36 PM EST
    As of right now, Romney is going to be the favorite to be the nominee...

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    Romney or... (none / 0) (#22)
    by EL seattle on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 03:52:48 PM EST
    ... Powell, perhaps?

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    Not in this lifetime (5.00 / 1) (#26)
    by andgarden on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 04:01:14 PM EST
    The Republican base will never, never, never, never nominate him.

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    Mmmmmm...I disagree (none / 0) (#29)
    by jbindc on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 04:05:52 PM EST
    They got the "Ooh! Scary Mormon!" stuff out this past year.  He's conservative on the right issues, he has a business and economic background, he saved the SLC Olympics, he was a governor and comes from a political family, and he and his family are attractive and seem to have very few skeletons. And since the US is in the auto business, he has a background in that too.

    Barring some dark horse candidate coming out of nowhere, or some big scandal - he's going to be it in 2012.

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    Look at what I'm responding to (5.00 / 1) (#30)
    by andgarden on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 04:06:30 PM EST
    They would never nominate Powell.

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    Ah (5.00 / 1) (#32)
    by jbindc on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 04:09:12 PM EST
    The thread starts with my comment about Romney

    Sorry

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    And, Colin Powell (none / 0) (#39)
    by KeysDan on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 04:30:50 PM EST
    would be even older than McCain when making a run (Born April, 1937).   But, for me, his age would be the very least of concerns.

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    And, didn't Powell endorse Obama? (5.00 / 3) (#43)
    by oculus on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 04:38:33 PM EST
    Powell would be interesting (none / 0) (#24)
    by Socraticsilence on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 03:55:17 PM EST
    Romney frankly would set the stage for reverse Reagan-Mondale (Mitt would keep Utah).

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    So (none / 0) (#23)
    by Socraticsilence on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 03:54:11 PM EST
    Ensign, Sanford, and now Palin, with Romney being unlikable, and Jindal getting dragged down by the swamp that is Louisiana politics, is it really possible that Jeb Bush could be the GOPs 2012 canidate?

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    No dynasties! ;-) (5.00 / 1) (#25)
    by Fabian on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 03:58:44 PM EST
    Just a little primary humor there.

    I can see JEB running.  Although the Bush name is mud to many, unless Obama and the Democrats have something to show in three years it might be enough to get the funding and Republican votes a GOP candidate needs.

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    Its actually starting to get eerie (none / 0) (#27)
    by Socraticsilence on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 04:01:20 PM EST
    how often Obama's putative rivals self-destruct, its like he's a jedi or something.

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    If Jeb goes down . . . . (none / 0) (#49)
    by nycstray on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 04:55:06 PM EST
    I saw a headline somewhere (none / 0) (#65)
    by sallywally on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 06:28:08 PM EST
    that implied Jeb might be preparing for a run at POTUS.

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    I think it will be (5.00 / 0) (#81)
    by gyrfalcon on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 11:11:31 PM EST
    quite a while before the public, even the remaining Republicans among them, will be interested in voting for anybody named Bush, even if it's someone who isn't related.

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    The possibilities (none / 0) (#38)
    by mg7505 on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 04:30:46 PM EST
    as I see them, in order of decreasing likelihood:

    1. Running for President
    2. Aiming for other office (VP? Gov elsewhere?)
    3. About to expose some scandal (fiscal, not sexual)
    4. Going corporate
    5. Becoming a talk show host/media personality
    6. Becoming a Karl Rove-type backroom politicker
    7. Being completely honest and changing careers in some unknown direction

    The only information we have so far is that (a) she's been considering this for a while, (b) she wants to effect change, and (c) she will be outside of government. Each of those could mean anything -- so I won't ramble off the dozens of questions/possibilities this incident raises. At least until we have more information.

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    Oh come on (none / 0) (#20)
    by WS on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 03:52:03 PM EST
    Who would be proud of "twisting arms?"  Sen. Reid is saying that to avoid sounding like a bully and protecting his caucus from attacks of being a rubber stamp for the President.

    Sen. Reid is actually very good at his job with his work at turning Sen. Jeffords and Sen. Specter to the Democratic or non Republican camp.  The reality of the Senate is that it's a very hard place to manage, and he's working to get the required votes to advance Obama's agenda.  The legislative accomplishments this year is a testament to that.    

    Specter (none / 0) (#86)
    by WS on Sat Jul 04, 2009 at 11:59:01 AM EST
    will support the public option.  He would not have done so if he did not switch to the Democratic Party.  

    You're right that we should expect results and that means universal health care reform with a public option as well as other initiatives.  And we will probably get a vote on health care reform by the end of July.

    The 111th Congress will not be crippled like the 110th Congress.  As we have seen the last few months most notably on the stimulus, Republican filibusters have been failing to a spectacular degree.  Now the big initiatives are up on the agenda, and according to Sen. Majority Leader Reid, the Senate's big to do list for the rest of the year includes health care, energy, and immigration reform in that order.  

    We're only a 1/4 through the 111th Congress.  The big initiatives are coming up very soon.  

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    I celebrate with le Tour de France (none / 0) (#35)
    by Jim in AZ on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 04:15:29 PM EST
    Another wide open field for the 3-week Tour de France.  The winners of each of the last 4 Tours will all be vying for the Maillot Jaune (Yellow Jersey), perhaps most notably, Lance Armstrong coming back after his retirement 4 years ago.

    My pick for the win this year is Lance's teammate, Alberto Contador, who won the event two years ago.  His team, Astana, was banned from last year's Tour because of doping scandals in previous years by a team sponsored by the organizations from the City of Astana, Kazakhstan.  Without being allowed to defend his Tour title last year, Contador merely won the Tour of Italy and the Tour of Spain, instead.  He is only the fifth rider in history to have won all three grand tours.

    I see Lance's roll as evolving into the single greatest domestique in the history of the sport.  I hope I am wrong, though, and Lance can come back in his advanced age and win it, or make the podium (top three), anyway.  In the meantime, Lance's stated goal is to bring international awareness to the fight against cancer.  It seems he's already accomplished that goal.

    Carlos Sastre, last year's winner is in good form, but cycling is a team sport (strange as it seems), and he's racing with a new team, Cervelo Test Team, which isn't as strong as his previous squad.

    Cadel Evans, from Australia, is a perennial favorite with his Silence Lotto team.  He's finished 2nd in the last two Tours.  Unfortunately, his top lieutenant on the team, Thomas Dekker, was just banned from the tour because of suspected doping.

    But it all comes back to the Astana squad.  Six of their nine team members have finished in the top ten in previous years.  It's a team built to win the Tour.  Levi Leipheimer, of Santa Rosa, California finished third two years ago when his teammate, Contador, took the win.  Andrea Kloden, of Germany, has been a strong rider for many years and has a podium finish.  And then there's Lance.  With 7 tour wins, there's more racing knowledge in his head than on all the other teams combined.  About the only one who knows more about racing is the team manager, Johan Bruyneel, whose teams have won 8 of the last 10 Tours de France.

    krugman stimulus (none / 0) (#50)
    by Jlvngstn on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 04:55:54 PM EST
    i love his vacillation.  Just 2-3 weeks ago he was saying a recovery was coming in 3-4 quarter. Now he is saying we need a big stimulus as he was saying 4 months ago before his OTR dinner with BHO.

    So which Krugman should we listen to?

    You know, until I opened Talk Left, (none / 0) (#57)
    by oculus on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 05:21:15 PM EST
    I really didn't have anything on my mind.  Should have kept it that way!

    Other than BTD, will any of you try to (none / 0) (#60)
    by oculus on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 05:48:33 PM EST
    get tickets for the MJ memorial at Staples Center?

    Is BTD (none / 0) (#61)
    by squeaky on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 05:50:39 PM EST
    Selling some?

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    Some of what? (5.00 / 1) (#62)
    by oculus on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 06:14:28 PM EST
    Here's what I would like BTD to expound on:  is there anything we need to know about Judge Sotomayor's alleged contacts with Puerto Rican extremists?

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    MJ Memorial (none / 0) (#64)
    by squeaky on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 06:26:15 PM EST
    And are you really serious about examining a right wing talking point?

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    No. (none / 0) (#66)
    by oculus on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 06:33:10 PM EST
    Just bored.

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    Well.. (none / 0) (#67)
    by squeaky on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 06:42:00 PM EST
    Play some Shubert or something. No need to be bored..

    Are you sure it is not that you are just hungry?

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    Killing time 'til time to (none / 0) (#68)
    by oculus on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 06:44:46 PM EST
    leave for the game.  Of course I could read a book or watch MJ videos or something.

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    I started signing up (none / 0) (#69)
    by TeresaInSnow2 on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 07:06:30 PM EST
    but then cancelled.

    That's just too mean.  I live in Washington and would have no intention of going.  I was planning on selling the tx on ebay....or something.

    Just too mean.  I'll let someone else do it.

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    Manny has served his 50-game suspension (none / 0) (#63)
    by oculus on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 06:15:51 PM EST
    and guess where he'll play his first post-suspension game?  That's right, in San Diego against the bottom-dwelling Padres tonight. Fireworks followed by fireworks.

    Got him in my outfield! (none / 0) (#70)
    by nycstray on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 07:10:16 PM EST
    I'll have to see if I can find the game here since I'll be up editing.

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    I left him on my bench (none / 0) (#71)
    by CoralGables on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 07:33:55 PM EST
    I'm expecting a 6 inning outing from him and then replaced by Pierre. I doubt he's in any kind of shape to go 9. That along with Petco being a pitchers park and I have reluctantly let Manny sit.

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    I hear the Marlins are on top again. (none / 0) (#72)
    by oculus on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 07:47:13 PM EST
    They're (none / 0) (#74)
    by CoralGables on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 07:56:26 PM EST
    in a virtual tie but losing to Pittsburgh tonight. Given a choice I'd rather be in San Diego to see how they react to Manny.

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    Competing very loud cheers (none / 0) (#78)
    by oculus on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 09:44:32 PM EST
    v boos. But I don't think he cares. LA 5 runs in fist inning!

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    I just saw what Cleveland did to Oakland! (none / 0) (#79)
    by nycstray on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 10:28:14 PM EST
    One of my outfielders scored 2HR 7RBI 4R 1SB .800BA, lol!~ And I had him active on both teams {grin} love it when that happens.

    From my player updates re Manny:

    Once again, he declined to speak with reporters before the game. "No thank you," Ramirez said. "Go to YouTube."



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    So we are watching the (none / 0) (#80)
    by oculus on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 10:34:13 PM EST
    game, bottom of the fourth, and we are on the jumbotron. Next thing that happens is the Padres' centerfielder Scott Hairston hits a solo HR!

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    Well, between DLs and slumps (none / 0) (#77)
    by nycstray on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 08:12:25 PM EST
    a total half a**ed performance from Manny could look brilliant in my OF, lol!~

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    6 innings (none / 0) (#82)
    by CoralGables on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 11:21:45 PM EST
    and nothing. I'm going to do my best to sit him until they get out of Padreland.

    In his career against tomorrow's starter for the Pads, Manny is 2 for 3 with a homerun. I may not be able to resist those numbers.

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    This is just what we need (none / 0) (#87)
    by weltec2 on Sat Jul 04, 2009 at 08:05:21 PM EST
    now that we have 60 votes... a spineless Senate leader.

    Not Only (none / 0) (#88)
    by squeaky on Sat Jul 04, 2009 at 11:00:59 PM EST
    The problem is that these lawmakers are not more like "us". For the most part they are more conservative than I am, for sure, and I have still voted for them, most of the time anyway.

    I have no doubt that the majority of americans do not speak for me.


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