Saturday Night Fever OpenThread

By Big Tent Democrat, Section Blog Related
Posted on Sat Jun 06, 2009 at 07:01:31 PM EST
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It's a night fever night fever . . .

Not liking 1970s Travolta? An alternative on the flip.

How about 90s Travolta?

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Watched some of the D-Day coverage (5.00 / 0) (#12)
by kenosharick on Sat Jun 06, 2009 at 08:54:48 PM EST

today. It is so great to have a president on the world stage that is not embarassing and that we can all be proud of.

Beautiful day for a walk in central park (none / 0) (#1)
by andgarden on Sat Jun 06, 2009 at 07:19:26 PM EST

: I'm so not a city person. (none / 0) (#34)
by Fabian on Sun Jun 07, 2009 at 06:01:31 AM EST

I'm watching the house wrens busy zipping back and forth feeding their brood. I can't imagine not having my flowers or birds or watching the wildlife any time I want.
Without the Dog, the rabbits are frequent visitors. I now know that Eastern cottontails eat virginia creeper and crabgrass. (They also eat strawberry plants.) I didn't find out what the chipmunk was gathering. Maybe it was cottonwood fluff to use as nesting material?
The wrens are amazing. They'll make literally thousands of trips to keep their brood supplied with insects. I don't put up nest boxes because I think they are cute. (The males are aggressive - there was an altercation when another bird perched too close to the nest.) I do it because they eat bugs.
The current nest tally is:
blue jays down the road in the spruce
robins down the road - they prefer lawns not shrubbery
hummingbird? we never know but I think she likes my open compost pile which supplies tiny insects like fruit flies. You don't grow healthy chicks on a diet of pure nectar!
house wren - the nest box visible from the house
native sparrow - don't know, possibly a ground nester. A fledgling was in the dogwood this week.
catbird - maybe. The male has gotten quieter so perhaps he's busy feeding young'uns.
A white squirrel was seen last week. Not albino because it still had markings, but blonde where it should be brown with black markings on its tail.
I don't discriminate. When I hit a rabbit (dead?alive?) with the mower last week, a crow came by. I tossed the body into the tree line for it. I'm not fond of crows because they eat nestlings and the cowbirds lay their eggs in other birds' nests. They all have their place in the ecosystem though.

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Watching Dirty Dancing - (none / 0) (#2)
by Anne on Sat Jun 06, 2009 at 07:22:22 PM EST

a classic, as far as I'm concerned. It's a very sexy movie; love the music and the chemistry between Jennifer Grey and Patrick Swayze.

Whenever that movie is on (none / 0) (#5)
by indy in sc on Sat Jun 06, 2009 at 07:38:41 PM EST

I can't not watch it. I'm addicted.

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: My "thirty-something" nieces love (none / 0) (#10)
by oculus on Sat Jun 06, 2009 at 08:12:11 PM EST

that movie too. So we all sat down to watch it recently. I couldn't make it through the whole thing.

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Nobody (none / 0) (#15)
by CoralGables on Sat Jun 06, 2009 at 09:27:57 PM EST

puts baby in a corner.

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Doing the (none / 0) (#3)
by TeresaInSnow2 on Sat Jun 06, 2009 at 07:28:18 PM EST

Casino Royale
Quantum of Solace
double feature backwards.

Watched Quantum of Solace and then realized that we couldn't remember what the revenge was about but luckily found Casino Royale on TV -- in HiDef. It's wonderful that we're old enough that Casino Royale is new to us! ;-).

I used to be a John Travolta fan, then realized how totally radically nutty scientologists can be (esp the withdrawal of medical treatment for his autistic, epileptic son), and I'm not so fond of him anymore.

Did you catch Travolta in "Michael"? (none / 0) (#4)
by oculus on Sat Jun 06, 2009 at 07:34:03 PM EST

That did it for me.

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Yeah, left me cold too (none / 0) (#7)
by ruffian on Sat Jun 06, 2009 at 07:57:56 PM EST

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I actually liked Michael (none / 0) (#9)
by TeresaInSnow2 on Sat Jun 06, 2009 at 08:09:13 PM EST

But his son died, at least compounded by the medication withdrawal. If Travolta had been a mere plebe, an investigation may have occurred.

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Do you have links to that? (none / 0) (#20)
by nycstray on Sat Jun 06, 2009 at 10:00:50 PM EST

I thought they were actually medicating him and hadn't heard they had stopped.

I always found him much more tolerable than some of the others. And for some of the decisions they make, I can't criticize, as some folks would say the same of me as to how I choose to keep myself and pets.

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Here's a link (none / 0) (#40)
by TeresaInSnow2 on Sun Jun 07, 2009 at 12:54:36 PM EST

Link

The only thing they tried was Depakote. There are many, many seizure medications available.

Scientologists don't believe in meds for brain disorders, don't even believe that autism exists.

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They managed the health of their (none / 0) (#41)
by Inspector Gadget on Sun Jun 07, 2009 at 01:26:30 PM EST

son with compassion and love. It's not for you to judge.

One medication is as bad as another on the toll they take on the liver and other organs. My mother kept switching her medications as she became immune to the effects of each one and then died of liver failure from the damage those medications did.

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Totally incorrect (none / 0) (#42)
by TeresaInSnow2 on Sun Jun 07, 2009 at 03:14:41 PM EST

Two things:

One drug isn't the same as another. There are new medications. Your mother's situation isn't the same as every situation, either. I know several people with epilepsy who are on drugs or otherwise treated. Many people tolerate the drugs well.

Second, if an ordinary citizen had been in the same situation, the police would have been called, child protective services would have been involved. As it stood, the Travolta's neighbors had suggested that child protective services get involved, long before the child died. They never did....

There is long case history of the courts intervening on children's care if the parents refuse to give health care.

There was recently a case of a child being kidnapped by the mother to prevent administration of chemotherapy. The court enforced the chemo.

There is a different standard of care for ordinary people's children. It's only the rich and famous that get away with murder by religion.

They have a right to abuse their kids...yep via their religion. I have a right to refuse to watch their movies.

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Well, TIS, it is your right to (none / 0) (#43)
by Inspector Gadget on Sun Jun 07, 2009 at 04:46:22 PM EST

not watch whatever you don't want to watch.

You aren't a parent, you aren't a doctor, and you can't possibly know what their journey was with their son. You just conclude they are child abusers because you think they should have done this differently.

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In your opinion, would CPS have been (none / 0) (#44)
by oculus on Sun Jun 07, 2009 at 04:48:57 PM EST

justified in opening a case for purposes of investigation?

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Who are you talking to? (none / 0) (#45)
by Inspector Gadget on Sun Jun 07, 2009 at 06:02:17 PM EST

Use PARENT to respond to the correct comment. I've not said one word to justify you asking such a question. I firmly believe the Travolta's did everything they knew how to do for the well-being of their son. They made decisions based on all they knew and were told by doctors. I certainly do NOT think they should have been put under CPS.

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I am fully aware of the "parent" (none / 0) (#46)
by oculus on Sun Jun 07, 2009 at 06:05:22 PM EST

function on TL and my question was, in fact, addressed to you. Also, my question was as to whether CPS would have been justified in opening an investigation, not whether CPS should have asked the court to remove the child from the home. Big difference.

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Why would I think CPS should (none / 0) (#48)
by Inspector Gadget on Sun Jun 07, 2009 at 07:34:24 PM EST

have gotten involved at all? I clearly stated that I felt the Travolta's were great parents.

No, again, I do not think CPS belonged in their family decisions.

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I don't know. Just asking for your (none / 0) (#49)
by oculus on Sun Jun 07, 2009 at 07:48:00 PM EST

opinion.

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And, I gave it (none / 0) (#50)
by Inspector Gadget on Sun Jun 07, 2009 at 08:00:20 PM EST

No.

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: Yes, you did. I got it. (none / 0) (#51)
by oculus on Sun Jun 07, 2009 at 08:16:40 PM EST

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Watching Bette Davis in 'The Letter' (none / 0) (#6)
by ruffian on Sat Jun 06, 2009 at 07:55:45 PM EST

I've been in classics mode today - it has been rainy, so a good day for it. Watched 'Stagecoach' this afternoon since I didn't see the whole thing the other night. Then 'it Happened One Night'.

Bette's really got some helmet hair going on in this one,,,dang, she is good though.

"stagecoach" (none / 0) (#11)
by cpinva on Sat Jun 06, 2009 at 08:25:28 PM EST

may well be the best acting john wayne ever did. being directed by the incomparable john ford most likely made the difference. one of the very few westerns of the era (along with "my darling clementine") that i actually like.

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A vast;ly underappreciated film is (none / 0) (#37)
by jeffinalabama on Sun Jun 07, 2009 at 07:24:39 AM EST

"Stagecoach."
I think Ford and Wayne had an intuitive understanding of what to do in Stagecoach and in She wore a Yellow Ribbon.

A much better actor than he's given credit for.

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: I like a number of Ford movies, (none / 0) (#38)
by brodie on Sun Jun 07, 2009 at 08:44:59 AM EST

but Stagecoach, which actually has been traditionally a highly praised western and maybe the greatest according to some critics, only rates 3 out of 4 stars with the simple country folk chez moi. Inadequate or unsatisfying character development according to our scorecards.
A much better western, imo, is The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance, where the characters come alive and the Wayne character's overbearing tendencies collide with Hallie's equally strong personality and Jimmy Stewart's tenderfoot stubbornness.
Valance and Shane are the two best westerns ever made, imo. With honorable mention for The Big Country and, a modern western, Geo Stevens' Giant.

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Went to LACMA today to see exhibit (none / 0) (#8)
by oculus on Sat Jun 06, 2009 at 08:07:01 PM EST

on Naples, Pompeii, etc. Interesting. But not as interesting as the Pompeii exhibit in Rome (frescoes and mosaics from museum in Naples) or the exhibit on Pompeii at San Diego Museum of Natural History.

Another blogger outing (none / 0) (#13)
by andgarden on Sat Jun 06, 2009 at 08:57:25 PM EST

Ed Whelan is despicable.

h/t Dylan Matthews.

A shame (5.00 / 1) (#24)
by Big Tent Democrat on Sat Jun 06, 2009 at 10:49:19 PM EST

Anonymity in blogging died some years ago unfortunately.

And tobe clear, Lefties are just as guilty. It was a "Leftie" who went after me.

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I remember (5.00 / 1) (#25)
by andgarden on Sat Jun 06, 2009 at 10:56:09 PM EST

but it was the NRO that made it "special," no?

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: Yes (5.00 / 1) (#26)
by Big Tent Democrat on Sat Jun 06, 2009 at 11:00:20 PM EST

They did.

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That sucks. (none / 0) (#17)
by nycstray on Sat Jun 06, 2009 at 09:46:14 PM EST

I didn't read though the whole thing (very tired eyes and more), but his reasons for not using his real name are sound and valid. DM puts it quite nicely, imo. EW is an A**.

Somebody outed me once on a membership site because of a disagreement with my views. Thankfully I only used the nic I had there, there. And i still don't show up on google except for Huff posting our campaign contributions with a map (GRRR!) I'm nowhere near in the position the person who EW outed is, but I still think my privacy while online is mine to "control". And I get from you, that you value yours also. Being outed online can have a serious impact on people's lives. I still don't get the ones that "out" themselves and document some of the sh!t they do with photos and more.

Hopefully, EW will discover Karma is a B!tch.

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Agreed, your identity (none / 0) (#19)
by andgarden on Sat Jun 06, 2009 at 09:54:30 PM EST

is yours to control. The right wing, or at least the NRO, does not agree, apparently. They do have a history of outing. I won't link, but BTD was the target.

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That's so wrong. (none / 0) (#21)
by nycstray on Sat Jun 06, 2009 at 10:17:17 PM EST

Is there anything a person can do that would stop that from happening on a particular site, etc? {remember, art, not law degree here :) }

I was seriously pissed when I googled my name and it came up on Huff (where I rarely read and never have commented) and it showed my political contributions and my address, I'd like to see that stopped, but I would put that aside to get rid of what happened to the blogger you posted about (but not let it out of my sights!).

I do want to thank you for the reminder though, I'm about to go live with my blog for certain things I do and will be posting it to the group(s) involved. I will be writing a "respect privacy" blurb now.

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I think the Huffpo donation stuff (5.00 / 1) (#22)
by andgarden on Sat Jun 06, 2009 at 10:29:46 PM EST

is based on public info.

Most of us only have a thin veneer of privacy. When you write stuff on the internet, you're bound to give away things about yourself and your life. but only a jerk intentionally connects the dots and outs you.

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It's one thing to give info about myself (5.00 / 1) (#31)
by nycstray on Sun Jun 07, 2009 at 12:03:36 AM EST

while writing on the internet, unless someone outs me, it's not a problem. In many cases, you need someone to connect those dots, or someone you know.

I just spoke with my mom. I let her know I would be sending her a link to my blog. I asked her not to refer to me by name. She gets it, she's the one that taught me.

And you're right, only a jerk would out you. I would feel more comfortable with the Huff outing if they let you know. My info ONLY shows up on their site. I might have actually sent in donations, vrs online ones if I knew my name was going to be there.

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Your political donations over a certain $ amount (none / 0) (#32)
by andgarden on Sun Jun 07, 2009 at 12:17:04 AM EST

have to be reported. It's the law for federal races. Before Huffpo had it, newsmeat did.

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: Huff was reporting under the amount (none / 0) (#33)
by nycstray on Sun Jun 07, 2009 at 12:33:46 AM EST

I can't remember the minimum amount before you hit the mass inter- market, but I know I was under it when they put me out there. At the time, I knew the "public disclosure" amount. Huff had me linked to a google map before that.
On the upside, I didn't connect to anything else. On the downside, it could effect my biz as it had my real name/address. It's the only time I popped up on a google search. And still is.

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Query: why further disseminate (none / 0) (#27)
by oculus on Sat Jun 06, 2009 at 11:21:23 PM EST

this information?

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: To discredit Whelan (none / 0) (#29)
by andgarden on Sat Jun 06, 2009 at 11:29:35 PM EST

Though whether "the damage is done" is a fair question.

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Hockey... (none / 0) (#14)
by professorWagstaff on Sat Jun 06, 2009 at 09:18:22 PM EST

Pens are getting crshed by the Wings. It's been physical so game six should be a good one. Any Mets fans out there? That was a rough one to watch tonight.

KDog (none / 0) (#16)
by CoralGables on Sat Jun 06, 2009 at 09:31:37 PM EST

and I are both fans of Rocky Swoboda and Buddy Harrelson. When it comes to my memory, they had nothing but good days for the Mets.

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More Yanks than Mets, but follow both (none / 0) (#18)
by nycstray on Sat Jun 06, 2009 at 09:53:03 PM EST

Oy. Turned over to Harper's island @ 9PM. Was actually doing some editing and was looking forward to having the game on in the background. Luckily, when I edit, I can block background info well :)

And Reyes being out is bumming me in my fantasy leagues! He's my go to guy when drafting as he fills multiple cats nicely :( On the upside, my mid-placed team is happily kickin' a** on the first place team in one of my leagues :)

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Top of the 7th. Pads 6, AZ 2. (none / 0) (#28)
by oculus on Sat Jun 06, 2009 at 11:21:56 PM EST

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If ... (none / 0) (#30)
by CoralGables on Sat Jun 06, 2009 at 11:39:33 PM EST

Scherzer could find the plate, he'd still be in the game and the Pads would still be scoreless.

The blessing and the curse of young stud pitchers... The hitters can't hit em because they have no idea where it's going...problem is neither does the pitcher.

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: Seems to be true. (none / 0) (#39)
by oculus on Sun Jun 07, 2009 at 12:15:06 PM EST

So glad Pads acquired Tony Gwynn, Jr. He is a scrapper. Plus the shot of his Dad hanging over the fence watching his son take batting practice: priceless.

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Brutal.... (none / 0) (#35)
by kdog on Sun Jun 07, 2009 at 06:34:59 AM EST

I'm glad I didn't watch the Mutts last night...man are they hurting in so many facets...Omar better get bold or he's out of a job. Sign Pedro and get a bat via trade stat or this season is gonna be lost.

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It's all about the soup (none / 0) (#47)
by FreakyBeaky on Sun Jun 07, 2009 at 06:07:32 PM EST

Malkin gets his mother's soup, Pens win. He doesn't, Wings win.

This means Wings in 7.

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Thanks for the Berry... (none / 0) (#36)
by kdog on Sun Jun 07, 2009 at 06:51:49 AM EST

to wake up to..who is cooler than that guy? The true king or rock-n-roll.

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