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John McCain's Acceptance Speech: Live Thread

By Jeralyn, Section Elections 2008
Posted on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 08:58:32 PM EST
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John McCain is about to make his acceptance speech for the Republican nomination for President of these United States.

If you're watching, live blog along with me in the comments.

Update: The video. Did you know John McCain was a POW?

Update: No podium. He waves to the crowd. Sure looked like he raised his arm above his chest to me.

Camera pans to a woman teary-eyed with reverence and he hasn't said anything but "Thank You." [More...]

The crowd's applause may to throw the teleprompter off ... the media says it doesn't stop for applause lines.

9/11, 9/11. Laura Bush. Bush I. Cindy. (What about George W. Bush?, did I miss it?

Violins please: Love Story with Cindy and talk of birth defects.

Throws Obama a respect bone. What's going on. Did a protester just get in? "Please Don't be diverted by the ground noise and the static? Did they plan that or did he ad lib that?

He mentions Palin and she gets more applause than him. You can't even hear him over the applause. That shows you how desperate the evangelical radical right is to get their hands on the White House.

Update: 10:33 pm. This is one of the worst speeches ever. It's boring and not saying anything.

( Note to readers: Don't forget to leave song suggestions in the comments.)

Kiss to James Dobson: Judges who don't legislate from the bench. (Translation: Now can the radical right send me more money?)

Lots of boos. Any rational person would think they are booing McCain, unfortunately they are not.

This speech and McCain's delivery is too poor and embarrassing to keep live-blogging. I'll join you all in comments or new threads.

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    John McCain's Acceptance Speech: Live Thread | 198 comments (198 topical)
    OMG (5.00 / 1) (#3)
    by glanton on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:10:43 PM EST
    The POW narrative has become nothing but a mockery of itself.  Long ago it became okay to roll your eyes at this.  That's what exploitation of something does (see Palin family camera shots)
    TChris will be doing his summary after the speech (5.00 / 0) (#4)
    by Jeralyn on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:12:17 PM EST
    so can I ask now, what's the best late night song for it. Won't Get Fooled Again comes to mind, but any more innovative suggestions?

    What a Fool Believes (none / 0) (#17)
    by ruffian on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:19:04 PM EST
    he sees
    No wise man has the power to reason away

    Or maybe that would be a downer.

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    I just pulled out (none / 0) (#55)
    by IzikLA on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:28:57 PM EST
    George Michael's Listen Without Prejudice album for the first time in a long time.  A great, heartfelt and socially aware album.  It's not a rocker but I like Praying For Time.  It's hopeful and sad at the same time which is how I feel watching this tonight.

    I was NOT a big "Change" person in the primaries but it truly is time.  We are stuck as a nation and we need to get out and open our eyes to bigger things because a lot of America simply feels left behind.  That's what that song says to me, and I think we need that now.

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    "Heal The Pain" (none / 0) (#82)
    by JimWash08 on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:36:28 PM EST
    That would be my favorite off that album. The reworked version in 2006 with Paul McCartney was pretty good too.

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    Everybody's Fool (none / 0) (#85)
    by litigatormom on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:37:33 PM EST
    by Evanescence.  

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    AEROSMITH - SAME OLD SONG AND DANCE. (none / 0) (#115)
    by EddieInCA on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:47:34 PM EST
    That is all.

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    we may (5.00 / 3) (#6)
    by mymy on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:15:23 PM EST
    know the story all too well,but it is an amazing story of fortitude.I can't imagine the hell he went thru.Like him or not you need to respect his courage

    A lot of vetts who died in prison camps... (5.00 / 1) (#194)
    by Dadler on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 10:10:56 PM EST
    ...had just as much courage as he did.  He was simply lucky to survive.

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    Sure, but Republicans (none / 0) (#15)
    by nalo on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:18:47 PM EST
    have been hearing the for a long, long time and they still hate him but were planning to support him 90% anyway.  I think it could convince younger independent voters who haven't heard the story before.

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    I have enormous respect (none / 0) (#88)
    by litigatormom on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:39:00 PM EST
    for the fact that he chose not to leave Hanoi early.  That took amazing courage.

    Unfortunately, his career over the last eight years has shown none of that courage.

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    Believe it or not (none / 0) (#124)
    by BernieO on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:49:40 PM EST
    a lot of people still don't know much about it so I am not surprised that they are telling it again. A lot of people don't pay much attention until this point in a campaign so going over this is for the general public as much as the audience.

    I have been surprised that the Republicans have not made more of Cindy's work in war areas and in third world countries. That is impressive.

    I think the speech is just a lot of Republican same ol' same ol' except for the corruption part. His blaming Republicans was a change from the usual. That was good, but not specific enough. Also blaming Republicans as well as Democrats for our oil dependence. If only he had mentioned Reagan I might vote for the guy.....

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    Tell me lies (5.00 / 3) (#7)
    by ap in avl on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:15:38 PM EST
    by Fleetwood Mac

    Seconded! (none / 0) (#26)
    by andgarden on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:22:53 PM EST


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    Thirdid! (none / 0) (#75)
    by Faust on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:34:05 PM EST


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    By the way (5.00 / 1) (#31)
    by Steve M on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:24:03 PM EST
    the business about the teleprompter not working is a myth.  Seems like the GOP has been ginning it up to create a story about Palin doing her speech from memory.

    She was TV talent (none / 0) (#41)
    by andgarden on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:25:59 PM EST
    She should be able to do it from a written script without anyone knowing!

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    do you have comfirmation of this? (none / 0) (#56)
    by of1000Kings on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:29:07 PM EST
    I suspected as such, just given it's the Right, but haven't seen anything about it...

    seems like it would be a good rebuttal to all the Palin/Bush speech writer stuff...

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    off topic stay on mccain speech please (none / 0) (#66)
    by Jeralyn on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:31:47 PM EST
    we only get 200 comments.

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    Youtube yanked the video (none / 0) (#76)
    by andgarden on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:34:11 PM EST
    but she was a sports reader at KTUU in the 80s.

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    I say the over/ under on how many times (5.00 / 1) (#37)
    by rjarnold on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:25:26 PM EST
    he says "My Friends" is 25.

    Are you keeping count? (none / 0) (#141)
    by JimWash08 on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:55:07 PM EST
    I've counted 12 so far. I might have missed a couple early on in the speech.

    Oh, there's number 13.

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    You anti-American you! (5.00 / 1) (#42)
    by Teresa on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:26:20 PM EST
    I've never heard so many USA's before. It's like the Olympics.

    There were protesters in the hall (5.00 / 1) (#92)
    by litigatormom on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:41:21 PM EST
    so the crowd booed just as McCain said he felt the pain of ordinary Americans.

    It was very jarring. There were several other times the crowd booed or jeered at inappropriate times, I can only guess that there were more protesters, but the camera on CNN did not show them.

    So all the audience would see and hear was McCain saying something about the economic troubles facing our country and people booing or screaming "U S A."  

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    I think they're trying to drown out (none / 0) (#52)
    by CCinNC on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:28:37 PM EST
    boos or catcalls?  Not sure.  I hope that's not what's happening.

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    There is one good thing about this (5.00 / 1) (#120)
    by litigatormom on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:48:25 PM EST
    speech.  Young Miss Litigatormom, unlike her mother and her older sister, has had no interest in politics whatsoever.

    She is watching with me and Mr. Litigatormom.

    She is incensed.  She is screaming at the TV screen.  "Why isn't he saying anything?!"

    I am so proud.

    I like your daughter already. n/t (none / 0) (#130)
    by shoephone on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:52:12 PM EST


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    The worst acceptance speech I can remember (5.00 / 1) (#128)
    by shoephone on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:50:36 PM EST
    in my lifetime. I stopped counting all the blantant lies after he reached ten in a row.

    Platitudes, generalities, code words. The rhetoric is so tired. It's the 1980's all over again.

    Hilarious! (5.00 / 2) (#134)
    by shoephone on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:53:07 PM EST
    The man who doesn't even know how to use email or the mighty Google is talking about the importance of information technology!

    I did a double take on the tech line (none / 0) (#168)
    by Jeralyn on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 10:01:30 PM EST
    he doesn't even do email.

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    I'm thinking of setting up (none / 0) (#186)
    by shoephone on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 10:05:21 PM EST
    a gmail account for him, but I don't want him to be a POT (Prisoner of Technology).

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    He's prob smart not to do email (none / 0) (#201)
    by nycstray on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 10:12:44 PM EST
    Doesn't Hillary play careful with email?

    I realize he's not tech savy, just looking at it from another angle, as one who has worked for folks that have no prob looking at your emails. The snark flies high in our private inboxes, lol!~ :)

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    I have the scars and Obama does not. (5.00 / 2) (#138)
    by byteb on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:54:10 PM EST
    What a creepy little toad.

    McCain was a POW (5.00 / 1) (#152)
    by byteb on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:56:51 PM EST
    but he hates talking about it.

    I was blessed (5.00 / 1) (#154)
    by manfred on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:57:07 PM EST
    See, if I hadn't been a POW, I'd have virtually nothing to run on now nearly 40 years later.  

     I was a POW, you see.

     I got captured in Viet Nam.

      The war.  I was a prisoner.

    Is McCain Obama's secret weapon? (5.00 / 1) (#185)
    by hookfan on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 10:04:56 PM EST
    McCain has almost single handidly convinced me to vote for Obama. The utter boringness is too painful to take for four years. Bleh. My wife agrees. His speech became physically painful. . .And unfortunately it was the same ol', same ol' as Bush for the last friggin eight awful long years.

    Stand up, stand up, stand up! (5.00 / 1) (#187)
    by litigatormom on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 10:06:22 PM EST
    Fight for America!  Fight! Fight!  Stand up and fight!

    OMG.

    Did he say anything about the economy except that he's going to cut taxes, and Obama is going to raise them?  And that the function of government is to get out of the way of ordinary Americans who are losing their jobs and homes?

    Oh yeah, he's going to increase unemployment.  That'll work.

    Jeralyn--Pink Floyd!!!!!!!!! (5.00 / 1) (#219)
    by glanton on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 10:54:02 PM EST
    Seems right for the late night song. Choices galore, but here are some suggestions:  

    "Dogs of War" would be excellent.  

    "Pigs" would be sublime.

    "Money" would sum the GOPers up pretty well, too.

    "Us and Them" another great Floyd Song, and also words that sum up McCain's thoughts on foreign policy.  

    Wow! (2.00 / 1) (#222)
    by Bluesage on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 11:38:05 PM EST
    "Sure looks like he raised his arms above his chest to me".  How very compassionate and decent of you Jeralyn.  You must be one of those "new" Democrats.

    I miss the sanity and decency of BTD.  Think I'll have to take a break too.

    There's that music again (none / 0) (#1)
    by CCinNC on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:07:45 PM EST
    My husband, a musician, told me once that there's a word or phrase for when music is slightly rearranged so that royalties don't have to be paid.  Can't remember what it is ...

    Stealing four measures at a time? (5.00 / 1) (#14)
    by DFLer on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:18:13 PM EST


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    I just called him to ask (none / 0) (#22)
    by CCinNC on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:21:57 PM EST
    He said "inversion."  But I like yours better.

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    That awkward MAMA'S BOY (none / 0) (#2)
    by cannondaddy on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:09:55 PM EST
    line nearly made me wet my pants.

    His mama's a pistol! (none / 0) (#63)
    by Grace on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:31:10 PM EST
    She's great, at her age.  She's a hoot whenever she's interviewed.  

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    She may be the only Republican (none / 0) (#93)
    by litigatormom on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:42:05 PM EST
    public figure in the nation that I like.

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    Yeah but the crowd (none / 0) (#108)
    by BernieO on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:45:07 PM EST
    has no sense of humor. And all that chanting was annoying.


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    did they just replay some of (none / 0) (#5)
    by Jeralyn on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:13:03 PM EST
    Fred Thompson's speech in the video?

    Yes, that was Fred (5.00 / 1) (#99)
    by litigatormom on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:43:09 PM EST
    I think he is going to be the Voice of McCain for the next few months.

    Maybe he can be press secretary in the new McCain administration.

    I will be taking the Ontario bar exam.

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    Serious question - how can a POW (none / 0) (#8)
    by ding7777 on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:16:10 PM EST
    refuse to be released?  If the NV wanted him out of there he would have been gone.

    They wanted him (5.00 / 0) (#36)
    by Steve M on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:25:02 PM EST
    to sign an anti-American statement or something first.

    I don't recall all the details.  Maybe they should go over McCain's biography one more time so I get it straight.

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    He DID repudiate America (5.00 / 2) (#78)
    by manfred on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:34:59 PM EST
    But that's what torture does -- everyone has to give in eventually.  The reason he refused to go was because the honor system for POWs demands that first in is first out -- the Vietnamese were offering to let him leapfrog prisoners who had been there longer.  He wouldn't go until it was his turn.

      I worked for McCain in 1999 and 2000.  I'm voting for Obama; I'm giving all the money I can afford to Obama; and I'm volunteering to do anything I can for Obama.

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    ok, but I don't understand why (none / 0) (#86)
    by ding7777 on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:38:32 PM EST
    the NV would respect McCain's refusal to go.

    the Vietnamese were offering to let him leapfrog prisoners who had been there longer.


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    Get rid of the (none / 0) (#9)
    by CCinNC on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:16:26 PM EST
    green backdrop!

    Really can't believe they did that again (none / 0) (#10)
    by ruffian on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:17:14 PM EST
    It is the White House lawn this time, but still - horrible.

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    At the risk of being banned and/or flamed... (none / 0) (#11)
    by EddieInCA on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:17:20 PM EST
    or being accused of being ageist...

    Damn, he looks old.  He's only seven years older than Biden, but what a difference visually and in energy. I won't even compare him to Obama or Palin.

    He looks old.

    The green background??? I thought they said (none / 0) (#12)
    by Teresa on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:17:22 PM EST
    never again.

    What An Unfortunate Background (none / 0) (#16)
    by JimWash08 on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:18:54 PM EST
    or more likely a horrible camera angle and position of the podium.

    The backdrop is actually a nice video, the green being a grass lawn.

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    OMG now he's in a cornfield (5.00 / 1) (#24)
    by ruffian on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:22:32 PM EST


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    Lots of Americana on screen (none / 0) (#94)
    by CCinNC on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:42:07 PM EST
    which could be a good idea, but the screen is so huge it diminishes the speakers.

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    exactly what I was thinking...little tiny humans (none / 0) (#139)
    by DFLer on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:54:14 PM EST


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    I am not watching (none / 0) (#19)
    by MKS on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:20:17 PM EST
    Is it really green?  Again?  Not blue or a big flag?

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    Ugly ugly green. It's the grass from a picture (none / 0) (#25)
    by Teresa on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:22:41 PM EST
    of the White House (I think) behind him on that big screen. They should have left the flag there.

    Oh, they just changed it to blue.

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    It changes ... Change is coming (none / 0) (#29)
    by robrecht on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:23:30 PM EST


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    Maybe there are monitors in the hall (none / 0) (#103)
    by litigatormom on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:44:15 PM EST
    on to which weather maps are projected.

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    Oh, this is going to be long... (none / 0) (#20)
    by Lil on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:20:32 PM EST


    the nv (none / 0) (#21)
    by mymy on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:20:37 PM EST
    wanted him to sign some kind of papers,This was going to be a big PR coup.He refused and said I'll leave when my turn comes.Read NIGHTENGALES SONG.Facinating book

    This is dreadful... (none / 0) (#23)
    by EddieInCA on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:22:13 PM EST
    ...seriously dreadful.

    "I won't let you down.
     I won't let you down.
     I won't let you down."

    His Mom is 96 years young - (none / 0) (#27)
    by ding7777 on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:22:56 PM EST
     longevity runs in the family?

    WTF was THAT? (none / 0) (#32)
    by CCinNC on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:24:14 PM EST
    A protester?  Or was she a supporter?

    Supporter in a pink negligee? (none / 0) (#38)
    by ruffian on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:25:28 PM EST
    I think it was Code Pink.

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    Everytime the crowd (5.00 / 1) (#49)
    by Grace on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:28:01 PM EST
    starts chanting USA, is it for protestors?  I can't tell what's going on!  

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    I counted two separate protestors. (none / 0) (#59)
    by EL seattle on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:30:14 PM EST
    PBS gave the first one a few seconds of screen time with his banner.  "USA USA" was the crowd vs. the protestor's voices, I think.

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    Pink negligee? (none / 0) (#47)
    by CCinNC on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:27:26 PM EST
    I missed that -- just saw the raised arms and charging down the aisle.

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    I thought it was a man! (none / 0) (#54)
    by Grace on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:28:56 PM EST


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    There have been more than one (none / 0) (#69)
    by ruffian on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:32:47 PM EST
    I thought I saw a hot pink negligee, but they did not show it for very long - I could be mistaken,

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    Code pink gave him a chance to stray (none / 0) (#34)
    by ruffian on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:24:51 PM EST
    from the script and loosened him up. Nice job.

    How did they get in? (none / 0) (#48)
    by Teresa on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:27:28 PM EST
    I missed that reading comments.

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    One seemed to have some sort of badge around (5.00 / 1) (#62)
    by ruffian on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:31:10 PM EST
    her neck.   I don't know how they got them.

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    Wore a dress over the slip? ;) (none / 0) (#70)
    by nycstray on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:33:01 PM EST


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    It sure seems it did... (none / 0) (#72)
    by JimWash08 on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:33:03 PM EST
    Looks like that protester did him a huge favor.

    I recall Palin was shaky for the first 10 minutes or so but she began to get into a groove and she became very comfortable with the crowd. I think it's natural for even the best speakers to be out-of-form for the first few minutes, especially under the glare of the media spotlights.

    But then again, McCain has never been a good speech-giver. He has acknowledged, and many have repeated, that he shines when he speaks off-the-cuff, without a script.

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    Ground noise and static. (none / 0) (#39)
    by EL seattle on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:25:41 PM EST
    Such fun.

    What a joke! (none / 0) (#43)
    by robrecht on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:26:43 PM EST
    He's trying (and failing) to sound sincere "... I know these are tough times for you, you're worried about losing your jobs ..."  And the crowd starts chanting, "USA! USA! USA!"

    He started saying that at the same time (5.00 / 1) (#53)
    by ruffian on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:28:39 PM EST
    the protesters were demonstrating.  I think the USA chants were a response to them, not to him.

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    But he was not sounding sincere (none / 0) (#58)
    by ruffian on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:29:28 PM EST
    that's for sure.

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    I think a protester started yelling at that point (none / 0) (#64)
    by CCinNC on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:31:13 PM EST
    and the "USA!"s were to shout him/her down.

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    so far (none / 0) (#44)
    by kenosharick on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:26:48 PM EST
    not so good

    How come I get a sick feeling in my stomach (none / 0) (#45)
    by Lil on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:27:01 PM EST
    everytime I see Palin?

    I wish her blouse wasn't (none / 0) (#67)
    by CCinNC on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:31:58 PM EST
    so low cut.

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    Maybe she's baiting the press ;) (none / 0) (#74)
    by nycstray on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:33:53 PM EST


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    If so, let's see if they take the bait. (none / 0) (#123)
    by FoxholeAtheist on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:49:34 PM EST


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    Nary a pantsuit to be seen. Interesting. (none / 0) (#188)
    by oculus on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 10:07:37 PM EST


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    ugh it was (none / 0) (#50)
    by nalo on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:28:16 PM EST
    gross with dogwhistles all over the place.

    code pink (none / 0) (#60)
    by tres on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:30:16 PM EST
    I think I have seen 4 people dragged off the floor now and one was a vet..sign said McCain votes against vets.

    On C-Span the protestor with the big (none / 0) (#105)
    by FoxholeAtheist on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:44:53 PM EST
    sign: "McCAIN VOTES AGAINST VETS", was there for a few minutes. The camera cut to him a couple of times. It seemed the security guys couldn't get to him.

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    Does anyone really think (none / 0) (#61)
    by Lil on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:30:45 PM EST
    this is the man to make change, except for the delusional base.

    The creepy old guy in the ice cream truck makes (none / 0) (#68)
    by steviez314 on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:32:36 PM EST
    change too.

    I fort rustlers, I fort indians, I fort dix.... (none / 0) (#71)
    by EL seattle on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:33:02 PM EST
    ... Remember when Richard Dix tried to take over the town?

    (Ref: Blazing Saddles)

    David Petraeus (none / 0) (#73)
    by nalo on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:33:18 PM EST
    Agrees with Obama that it's time to begin troop withdrawal from Iraq

    Surge (none / 0) (#112)
    by coast on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:46:43 PM EST
    Obama and both both brought up the subject but failed to credit the surge for getting Iraq to a position that there can be troop withdraws.

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    The Surge = (5.00 / 1) (#212)
    by Dadler on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 10:18:21 PM EST
    Ethnic cleansing + walled off neighborhoods + paying/bribing off militants who were previously our enemies = one big con.

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    Hillary (none / 0) (#77)
    by airwon on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:34:18 PM EST
    He thinks that he is Hillary

    Tacky (none / 0) (#79)
    by mymy on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:35:48 PM EST
    as all get out disrupting his speech.Kind of like if a bunch of freepers protested in the middle of Obamas.What could they hope to accomplish

    is BTD coming back? (none / 0) (#80)
    by DJ on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:35:53 PM EST


    BTD will be back tomorrow (5.00 / 1) (#95)
    by Jeralyn on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:42:47 PM EST
    he's taping something after the speech.

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    I'm a loser (none / 0) (#81)
    by nalo on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:35:59 PM EST
    I didn't do my job and lost the trust of America.  Vote for me!

    I'll make 'em famous? (none / 0) (#83)
    by manfred on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:36:38 PM EST
    If he is going to make Palin famous, since three of her pork requests were specifically cited by him?

     And how can Obama have passed a major pork oil bill if, as Palin said, he's never passed any legislation at all?

    Whoa, big diss to Bush there (none / 0) (#84)
    by CCinNC on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:37:02 PM EST
    "Party of Roosevelt, Lincoln and Reagan is going to get back to basics."

    Yes, Bush II (none / 0) (#107)
    by CCinNC on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:44:56 PM EST
    I missed the mention at the beginning (just heard the nice remarks about Laura).

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    Ok, not feeling bad about the protesters anymore (none / 0) (#89)
    by CCinNC on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:39:47 PM EST
    Did the Dems boo and sneer throughout our convention? Maybe I missed it.

    Yes (none / 0) (#101)
    by coast on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:43:46 PM EST
    In the convention hall yes...couldn't tell during the rock concert.

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    John McCain: (none / 0) (#90)
    by Oje on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:39:54 PM EST
    "Standing up again to the values Americans admire!"

    Who wrote this speech? (none / 0) (#91)
    by Lil on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:40:51 PM EST
    Is he that bad or is it just me. Best line was aimed at the protester, which I suspect he had planned, in the event anything like that happened.

    I think you are right it was planned (none / 0) (#102)
    by Jeralyn on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:43:53 PM EST
    he's not spontaneous to think of it on his own. With all the arrests in MN this week, they anticipated this.

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    It really is bad (none / 0) (#104)
    by ruffian on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:44:39 PM EST
    He's missing the correct pauses too.  My favorite was when he said Palin has worked with her hand and nose...uh, and knows

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    That darn phonetic spelling! (none / 0) (#114)
    by robrecht on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:47:31 PM EST


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    I think that Obama should come out tomorrow (none / 0) (#96)
    by flyerhawk on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:42:50 PM EST
    and say that he is completely in favor of cutting the Corporate Tax by 10%.  And with that tax cut we will slash all corporate tax exemptions.  Corporations will now pay the actual rate.  

    Jeralyn,

    How does "Same old song and dance" by Aerosmith?  

    You're so right. My old company used to be (none / 0) (#121)
    by Teresa on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:48:48 PM EST
    one corporation. When I left three years ago, it was 18 corps but still the same company. It is ridiculous. We had one company that owned the planes, one that hired the pilots, one that leased the plane to the company, one that financed the planes, etc. All headquartered in a non-existent office in Delaware (a closet with a phone).

    I would love to see Obama or anyone explain these tax laws in plain English so people would understand just how much abuse there is.

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    Well one thing he could point out (5.00 / 1) (#136)
    by flyerhawk on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:53:49 PM EST
    is that the United States has the 4th lowest corporate taxes per capita of all nations in the OECD.

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    Gonna get rid of federal programs that don't work (none / 0) (#98)
    by robrecht on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:42:52 PM EST
    Stole that line from Obama

    Who stole it from Clinton/Gore (none / 0) (#109)
    by ruffian on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:45:17 PM EST


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    Who stole it from Krusty the Clown... (none / 0) (#117)
    by EL seattle on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:48:04 PM EST
    ...who stole it from Steve Allen.

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    Yep - pretty standard line (none / 0) (#125)
    by ruffian on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:50:19 PM EST


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    Sounds like a state of the union speech (none / 0) (#100)
    by Exeter on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:43:42 PM EST


    Perhaps McCain (none / 0) (#106)
    by flyerhawk on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:44:53 PM EST
    can explain how he plans to give parents a choice in schools when 93% of funding for primary and secondary educations is from state and local governments?

    They love that drilling now (none / 0) (#110)
    by byteb on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:45:56 PM EST


    We;re going to make Washington (none / 0) (#111)
    by litigatormom on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:46:21 PM EST
    work again!

    And why hasn't it been working, John?

    Could it be because Republicans have controlled the White House AND the Congress for most the last eight years.

    Obama MUST pick up that line (none / 0) (#127)
    by CCinNC on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:50:31 PM EST
    and run with it.

    Really, there's all sorts of fodder for some good ads in this convention.

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    So far he's bashed unions twice (none / 0) (#113)
    by democrattotheend on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:46:57 PM EST
    Sounds like a pretty typical Republican to me.

    OMG (none / 0) (#116)
    by kraftysue on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:47:36 PM EST
    "Medical decisions will be between a doctor and his patient"  unless of course your name is Terri Schivo.  
    I nearly choked when he talks about "the rule of law"...............

    That little fake smile is driving me nuts.

    Okay--you really like (none / 0) (#118)
    by MKS on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:48:12 PM EST
    the speech....

    I was more interested in a Democratic perspective...

    The Gold Tie (none / 0) (#122)
    by JimWash08 on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:49:08 PM EST
    I am about to slip into a coma from this speech, but I'm fixated on his tie. Women love shoes and purses and other accessories.

    I'm a tie guy ... I have probably 150-160 ties and counting. Unfortunately I don't have a gold tie. Hmm. I love that I'm talking about the tie of the person who's running for President. Heh.

    I am increasingly agitated (5.00 / 1) (#135)
    by Lil on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:53:48 PM EST
    listening to this endless drone. Tapping my feet waiting for it to be over. I hope to God the pundits don't use some sports analogy like hitting a homerun or something. Because then I will know for sure they are a bunch of liars.

    He mentions change Wash. and his audience doesn't know whether to clap or not...let it be over.

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    Yes! (none / 0) (#126)
    by litigatormom on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:50:30 PM EST
    Georgia needs our support.

    I will reach out to Russia.  But I am not afraid of them. Sarah Palin will increase our leverage by deploying the AK National Guard across the Bering Strait.

    I know how to stand up to those who don't agree with us or rollover.

    I know who to secure the peace by using the example of power.

    Peace (none / 0) (#145)
    by of1000Kings on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:55:30 PM EST
    gotta love that the opening invocation mentioned ours as a nation of peace...

    while we fight wars in Iraq, Afghanistan and look to begin one with Iran and Russia...

    sorry if I'm off-topic again...

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    I hate war (none / 0) (#129)
    by litigatormom on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:51:55 PM EST
    But i know how to do it!

    I will use all tools at my disposal -- economic, diplomatic, military and the power of our ideas -- to secure the peace.  

    But not necessarily in that order.

    War is turble. (none / 0) (#147)
    by byteb on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:55:44 PM EST


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    Nope, Dems were complicit too (none / 0) (#167)
    by robrecht on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 10:01:18 PM EST


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    Crowd wants Sarah Palin instead (none / 0) (#131)
    by robrecht on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:52:12 PM EST


    you are so right (5.00 / 1) (#143)
    by Lil on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:55:14 PM EST
    they want their own "rock star" (celebrity)

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    Who wrote this crap? (none / 0) (#137)
    by litigatormom on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:54:05 PM EST
    We have to catch up in history.

    That is why I am trying to use the Vietnam War, and our withdrawal before victory, as a template for waging the war in Iraq.

    Washington is not working.  That has nothing to do with Republicans.

    I will hold out my hand to anyone who will help me do what I want.

    I have that record and the scars to prove it, Senator Obama does not.

    But I respect him.

    It's an appeal to the mavericks... (none / 0) (#174)
    by Romberry on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 10:03:02 PM EST
    ...or at least the people who love them. He's saying "I see what is wrong, and I too and am agent of change." McCain's change is to restore "traditional conservatism"...or something like that.

    (I may have posted too soon when I posted earlier. This speech is tailing off badly...)

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    So John McCain (none / 0) (#177)
    by nalo on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 10:03:32 PM EST
    is voting for Barack Obama?

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    He's right. (none / 0) (#197)
    by Grace on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 10:11:38 PM EST
    The Republicans are largely at fault for failing to have a backbone.  Of course, the Dems haven't been much better since they got control of Congress and the Senate.  

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    Bummer, Mac just mis-represented Obama's (none / 0) (#140)
    by FoxholeAtheist on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:54:58 PM EST
    energy stance. He said Obama thinks we can solve the energy issue "without more drilling or nuclear power".

    I wish that Obama gave renewable energy priority over conventional sources!

    Really, now, McCain didn't change his mind? (none / 0) (#200)
    by MKS on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 10:12:12 PM EST
    McCain is about drilling--I think we got it....And Obama did say nuclear power was part of the mix.  But those plants are very expensive and there is waste...

    This obession that conservatives have with drilling is weird.....won't do diddly but they cheered wildly for that at the Saddleback debate...but then again conservatives escape my comprehension in the first place...

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    I tuned in late but I have to say... (none / 0) (#142)
    by Romberry on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:55:09 PM EST
    ...that for McCain, this is not an awful speech. It isn't the kind of oratory that we hear from Obama, but it is in a traditional political way a pretty good speech that is full of red meat for his party's base and tidbits designed to appeal to others who may not know what what McCain is saying is not exactly what he means.

    I have to say that older voters will turn out for McCain in droves. I expect he will take 55 percent of the 50+ votes and up to 60 percent of 60+. Say what you will but older voters turn out. Old age and treachery defeat youth and beauty once again.

    My God (none / 0) (#144)
    by litigatormom on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:55:24 PM EST
    They keep panning to people weeping in the audience.

    Who could be moved to tears by this dreck?

    Jeez, Palin did better than he's doing.

    Not there--does he look old? n/t (none / 0) (#146)
    by MKS on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:55:36 PM EST


    He's been to a tanning salon (none / 0) (#153)
    by litigatormom on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:57:05 PM EST
    And has used some contouring make-up that attempts to create a clear line of demarcation between his hair and his otherwise pasty skin.

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    He's had botox too (none / 0) (#203)
    by MichaelGale on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 10:14:05 PM EST
    I can tell.  I know botox!

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    Hey (none / 0) (#148)
    by litigatormom on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:55:49 PM EST
    did you know I was a POW?

    Amazing how he can combine (none / 0) (#149)
    by shoephone on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:55:53 PM EST
    the concepts of G*d and War in the same sentence. Actually, it's obscene.

    What are (none / 0) (#151)
    by airwon on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:56:33 PM EST
    they crying about?  This isn't a very emotional speech.

    His heroism (none / 0) (#158)
    by litigatormom on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:59:28 PM EST
    His maverick-like promise to clean up Washington.  For the last two decades, he's not been able to obtain a bottle of Mr. Clean and a Swiffer.

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    I can't believe he's talking about (none / 0) (#155)
    by CCinNC on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:57:11 PM EST
    his POW experience.

    And he's STILL (none / 0) (#159)
    by CCinNC on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:59:29 PM EST
    talking about it!  

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    He really hates to talk about it. (none / 0) (#162)
    by shoephone on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 10:00:29 PM EST
    Really.

    "USA! USA! USA! USA!......"

    He liked to strut a little after being roughed up. Then they beat him up more, He was so ashamed. How would he face the other guys? "My fellow prisoners used morse code through the wall to pump up my spirits again."

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    I didn't turn off the tv. (none / 0) (#156)
    by gentlyweepingguitar on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:57:53 PM EST
    McCain is the only Republican who doesn't seem to make my skin crawl. I think he's a lying sack of crud, but so far, I haven't turned off the tv. i don't know why. I find this very interesting.

    I actually don't mind McCain (none / 0) (#179)
    by of1000Kings on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 10:03:55 PM EST
    and might think about voting for him if he hadn't changed so much in the past couple years, and if he and his wife and now Palin weren't aligned with the extreme evangelical right...

    he's an admirable man, at least as far as politicians go...

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    I liked him in 2000 (none / 0) (#213)
    by MichaelGale on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 10:19:16 PM EST
    thought he was really going to make it for awhile.

    Then there was a scene televised where he was angry at the press or someone and whoa.....I mean angry.
    However, if Rove had put out the rumor about his marriage and child and had SC vets bad mouth him, I would be angry too.


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    Oh, this is shameless. (none / 0) (#160)
    by byteb on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:59:35 PM EST


    "I hate war" (none / 0) (#161)
    by manfred on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 09:59:53 PM EST
    I don't know if I can dance to that one as well as "Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran."  

    He loves America (none / 0) (#165)
    by litigatormom on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 10:00:56 PM EST
    And you always hurt the ones you really love.

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    I'm going to have to read this speech (none / 0) (#163)
    by Grace on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 10:00:40 PM EST
    to understand all the things he's proposing.  Unfortunately, I'm with people who won't quit talking and I can't hear...  

    better wind it up john (none / 0) (#164)
    by DFLer on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 10:00:48 PM EST
    time for the Daily show....seeya

    I fell in love??? (none / 0) (#166)
    by manfred on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 10:01:08 PM EST
    Didn't he love America from conception like all good 'mericans, especially uber-patriot, Sarah Palin?  He almost sounds like that pinko Michelle Obama who actually THINKS about the right and wrong of her country!

    History Has Annointed Me? (none / 0) (#170)
    by limama1956 on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 10:02:16 PM EST
    To save the country?

    I can't believe McCain just said what I think he said.

    You Heard Wrong (none / 0) (#189)
    by JimWash08 on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 10:08:39 PM EST
    You heard exactly what you wished he would say, but he didn't.

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    McCain is mocking the Obama phenom... (none / 0) (#191)
    by FoxholeAtheist on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 10:09:43 PM EST
    McCain just said:

    "I'm Not running for President because I think I'm blessed with such personal greatness that history has anointed me to save our country in its hour of need.

    My country saved me and I will fight for her as long as I draw breath, so help me god".



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    No (none / 0) (#192)
    by litigatormom on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 10:10:11 PM EST
    he was snarking on Obama, whom he and his staff caustically refer to as "The One."

    You know, the guy who shouldn't be popular because people like him, including foreign governments.

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    but it's okay (none / 0) (#205)
    by of1000Kings on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 10:14:58 PM EST
    for Palin to be a superstar....

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    It is jealousy, plain and simple (none / 0) (#209)
    by MKS on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 10:15:36 PM EST
    McCain has always been the celebrity and it chafes him he isn't the media darling anymore....That's why he chose Palin--to get some celebrity mojo back....

    How many gazillion times has he been on Leno?

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    I think it was dig at Obama (none / 0) (#216)
    by ding7777 on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 10:23:47 PM EST
    I'm not running for president because I think I'm blessed with such personal greatness that history has anointed me to save our country in its hour of need.


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    He is going on and on and on (none / 0) (#171)
    by Radiowalla on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 10:02:29 PM EST
    about his POW experience.    Reminds me of some old veterans who buttonhole anyone who will listen to recount their war stories, over and over again.

    Ha! (none / 0) (#172)
    by shoephone on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 10:02:54 PM EST
    "Teach an illiterate adult to read."

    But he flubbed up the line.

    What? (none / 0) (#175)
    by lentinel on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 10:03:03 PM EST
    What does McCain mean when he said, "they broke me"?

    At some point (none / 0) (#198)
    by litigatormom on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 10:12:06 PM EST
    after repeated torture, he said bad things about America, or signed some anti-American statement.

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    Does anybody have a (none / 0) (#176)
    by FoxholeAtheist on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 10:03:27 PM EST
    mental picture of the first Obama versus McCain debate?

    If Obama said: "You're likable...enough, John". What would McCain say back to him I wonder.

    thanks for (none / 0) (#180)
    by airwon on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 10:04:13 PM EST
    screaming so we don't have to hear him

    gag me (none / 0) (#182)
    by Lil on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 10:04:28 PM EST


    He lost it. Completely. Lost it. (none / 0) (#183)
    by byteb on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 10:04:33 PM EST
    That was embarrassing.

    He woke up at the end (none / 0) (#184)
    by Jeralyn on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 10:04:44 PM EST
    probably so glad he was done.

    The speech was incoherent (none / 0) (#190)
    by byteb on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 10:09:12 PM EST
    It was a string of sentences pasted together that seemed to have no beginning, middle and the end was like being at an evangelical church.

    So Glad It's Over (none / 0) (#193)
    by JimWash08 on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 10:10:53 PM EST
    That was the most boring convention speech of this cycle.
    It got really strange at the end, and it seemed to end at the worst time.

    Love that they're playing "Barracuda" by Blondie. Hommage to Palin?

    My last snark (none / 0) (#195)
    by airwon on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 10:11:07 PM EST
    McCain really knows how to end a party

    Tweety says McCain will be ahead in the polls (none / 0) (#199)
    by robrecht on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 10:12:11 PM EST
    next week.

    I'm afraid (none / 0) (#202)
    by airwon on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 10:14:05 PM EST
    he might be correct

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    It was fake (none / 0) (#204)
    by Dadler on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 10:14:46 PM EST
    Unless he repudiates what his running mate said, his words are empty.  These folks are malevolence incarnate.  They care about nothing but winning.  And their fat wallets.  And their tiny d*cks.  Gracious, my ace.  Gracious would be apologizing for how classless the others have been to Obama.  Spare me.

    Oh my God (none / 0) (#206)
    by litigatormom on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 10:15:05 PM EST
    Anderson Cooper and Campbell Brown just said that McCain made MORE specific proposals about the economy than Obama did.

    So I decide to go back to CNN because I got sick of Tweety and Pat Buchanan, so where do I go now.

    Castellanos: he's not going to win the election on oratory, but he opened himself up tonight.  He finally shared the secret that he was a POW.  McCain told people who are tired of broken promises that we are going to deliver for you.  He is the reformer. I am change.  I am the change you seek.

    Shoot me now.

    McCain Is Just Not Good (none / 0) (#207)
    by john horse on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 10:15:24 PM EST
    when it comes to speeches.  Terrible delivery.  Saving his POW experience for the end was a good idea on his part because he was losing the crowd.

     

    Stephanopolous (none / 0) (#208)
    by shoephone on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 10:15:25 PM EST
    just said the voters really have a choice between two very different candidates -- "and both tickets are so historic".

    Huh? I musta missed the historic nature of the McCain candidacy.

    Great ballon drop and fireworks, (none / 0) (#210)
    by oculus on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 10:15:43 PM EST
    but, unfortunately, Gov. Palin's 7-year old didn't get enough camera time.  I'm quite certain she was delighted.  

    Andrea Mitchell buried in balloons (none / 0) (#211)
    by ruffian on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 10:17:44 PM EST
    That was worth staying up for.

    I thought it was a nice touch for McCain and Palin to walk through the crowd at the end. To the sounds of "Barracuda" by Heart.

    Oh, when did someone (none / 0) (#214)
    by litigatormom on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 10:19:34 PM EST
    stand up and say that his own party had lost its way and that he was going to take it back.

    The Republicans are totally energized.

    Okay, I think I would rather listen to Pat Buchanan than Wolfie.

    Now Candy Crowley is saying that this was an anti-Obama speech because it did not include soaring rhetoric.

    Soaring rhetoric is bad.  

    Palin reached out to the base last night. McCain was reaching out to the middle, to the moderates.  I am not the guy with the R next to his name, I can reach across the aisle and get things done.

    Dana Bash: the confetti is really pretty!  John McCain likes confetti and he's finally gotten it.  John McCain talks about service all the time!

    McCain was trying to convey that he gets it, he is the change we seek.  The change we can believe in.  The change we need.  

    And by we, I mean rich people earning over five million dollars.

    Tara Wall: Maverick McCain is BACK!

    Okay, I am going to go throw up now.  See ya later.

    The cameraman buried in balloons! (none / 0) (#215)
    by Grace on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 10:22:48 PM EST
    Now that was funny!  He couldn't even move his arms!  ;-)

    New Obama ad: (none / 0) (#217)
    by coigue on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 10:25:35 PM EST
    McCain giving any speech

    Text: How would you like to hear THIS for every "State of the Union" address?

    eh (none / 0) (#218)
    by connecticut yankee on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 10:46:27 PM EST
    I thought it was ok for him.  POW stuff is his only strong card. Admitting the GOP was off course wasnt unexpected. They didnt seem to like that at first.

    The awed and teary look from the crowd had me laughing though. 6 months ago they spit this mans name out like poison and 8 years ago spread rumors that he wasnt one of them, might be insane, etc.   Now they flip a little switch in their minds and he's Jesus.   I dont know what you call that.

    who's running again? (none / 0) (#221)
    by of1000Kings on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 11:06:25 PM EST
    with all the Barracuda music, the Palin love-fest and the commercial comparing Palin to Obama I'm starting to wonder who really is running in this election...

    I know the extreme Right hoped to have Palin in office in 2012, but maybe they're starting a little early...
    I guess they really didn't like the McCain nomination that much, so this is their way of having an extreme social conservative in the office...

    I'm starting to worry that McCain will have some sort of medical leave of duty in a year or two if he wins...conspiracy I know..but crazier things have happened (even in the last 8 years)

    hopefully we won't have to worry about that in a couple of months...

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