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Watch Your Language, Sen. McCain

By TChris, Section Elections 2008
Posted on Sat Sep 27, 2008 at 01:10:13 PM EST
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Michael Tomasky thinks John McCain twice uttered an expletive during last night's debate. Steven Leser agrees. They might be right. Both link to the portion of the debate that has McCain muttering something that sounds like it starts with "horse." Listen and decide for yourself.

On a positive note, at least McCain didn't drop an F-bomb like his friend Dick Cheney. But then, Cheney wasn't participating in a nationally televised debate.

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    Watch Your Language, Sen. McCain | 14 comments (14 topical)

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    I listened to it three times. (5.00 / 3) (#1)
    by tootired on Sat Sep 27, 2008 at 01:40:35 PM EST
    I heard him say "of course not". No horse manure. He might have been thinking it, though. Does that count?

    Meh (5.00 / 1) (#3)
    by Faust on Sat Sep 27, 2008 at 01:56:52 PM EST
    If this had any reality to it at all the networks would have been on it like flies on __

    This is not worth discussing imo.

    Hmmmm (5.00 / 1) (#4)
    by Montague on Sat Sep 27, 2008 at 02:00:38 PM EST
    I think he did say "horseshit."  But that could be because I was prepped to hear it.

    Ah, who cares?  Michael Tomasky is better than this, worrying about such a thing.

    Segue: Paul Newman about (1.00 / 1) (#13)
    by oculus on Sat Sep 27, 2008 at 04:11:06 PM EST
    Slapshot, a movie we saw at the drive-in (remember those) with two small kids in the back of the car.  We left due to what was, at the time, incessant profanity.  Newman sd. he started swearing alot after that movie and realized it when he asked his daughter to pass the f#cking salt.

    Even Olbermann said this is nonsense (none / 0) (#2)
    by Cream City on Sat Sep 27, 2008 at 01:50:17 PM EST
    and said McCain said "'Course not."  And Olbermann had superb sound amplification.

    So was your sound system better than in the NBC studio itself, TC?

    If he ever did say "horseshit" and ... (none / 0) (#5)
    by Meteor Blades on Sat Sep 27, 2008 at 02:08:19 PM EST
    ...didn't say it sotto voce, that would hardly be something I'd hold against him. More of our leaders should say "horseshit" given how much there is of it. In fact, I say "horseshit" quite a lot when I hear John McCain tell us what a great maverick he has been and how his "make-my-day" foreign policy is just what America needs.

    I disagree (none / 0) (#7)
    by flyerhawk on Sat Sep 27, 2008 at 02:11:21 PM EST
    I think it is a problem if a major politician speaking in front of millions can't control his tongue and avoid using vulgarities.

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    I'm just a little bit more concerned ... (none / 0) (#11)
    by Meteor Blades on Sat Sep 27, 2008 at 02:45:16 PM EST
    ...about a guy who sings Bomb Bomb Bomb Iran than "horseshit." I'm talking about personal reaction to his disputed comment, not whether it plays with the broad spectrum of an American audience. There are, of course, lot of things that a politician can't say that they ought to. For instance, Obama can't say that soldiers do die in vain. Quite literally, some die for the vanity of a general or a commander-in-chief. Some die for an bad cause - as tens of thousands have in U.S. wars both recent and back a couple of centuries. But saying that on national TV in a debate for the presidency would be worse than saying "horseshit" and would get whatever candidate who said it reamed by press and public alike.

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    Horse hockey . . . (none / 0) (#6)
    by Doc Rock on Sat Sep 27, 2008 at 02:08:25 PM EST
    . . . without a doubt he said it, twice.  What a marroon!

    I hear him saying "Of course not" (none / 0) (#8)
    by gish720 on Sat Sep 27, 2008 at 02:15:42 PM EST


    Whether he said it or not (none / 0) (#9)
    by barryluda on Sat Sep 27, 2008 at 02:16:50 PM EST
    it is funny.  Montague is probably right that we can hear it because we're prepped to hear it.

    In any event, the real horsesh!t is where McCain wants to lead (or rather just continue to take) our country.

    It's "Course not" (none / 0) (#10)
    by Melchizedek on Sat Sep 27, 2008 at 02:40:50 PM EST
    Trust me, I'd be on this like a fly on horseshit if I thought that's what it was. It was "course not"-- he's not that stupid. In fact, he's not stupid period. Wrong, yes, but not stupid. One of the best things about last night was walking away saying "At least we have two articulate, smart candidates for President." Couldn't say that the last two times.
    Why doesn't Obama just say... (none / 0) (#12)
    by Dadler on Sat Sep 27, 2008 at 03:01:01 PM EST
    ..."John, you supported full normalization of relations with Vietnam, what twisted logic do you use to arrive at the conclusion that simply TALKING to Cuba is a bad idea?  Keep your friends close and your enemies closer, it's old and wise strategy, John."

    McCain is a dim-witted bully and I hope Obama learns in the next debate to really take no prisoners.  Stuff that smirk right down McCain's grizzled gullet with plain and simple LOGIC.  

    he said horse sh*t (none / 0) (#14)
    by jes on Sat Sep 27, 2008 at 06:11:31 PM EST
    without a doubt. As a not-quite completely clueless almost-PUMA even I can grant that. "Course-not" has no context; horse-sh*t does.

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