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Hillary Clinton Returns to Senate Amidst Cheers

Hillary Clinton returned to the Senate today. She's back to her day job, promising to roll up her sleeves, get to work, and yes, help Barack Obama become President.

Two hundred journalists, interns and others awaited her arrival at the carriage entrance outside the Senate chamber yesterday. A Senate official tried to keep order among the cameras, boom microphones and shotgun-wielding cops: "I need media credentials out! I need a space for her!"

...."Heads up!" somebody called out. The interns erupted in a cheer as soon as the leg of Clinton's turquoise pantsuit appeared though the doorway of her Lincoln Town Car.

The cheers continued at a private Senate luncheon. [More...]

as Clinton entered a private luncheon in the Capitol, these colleagues greeted her with cheers, hugs and high-fives. "It's great to be here among my colleagues," Clinton teased, "just another regular, plain old superdelegate."

Her colleagues told her how much they needed her. They also need her supporters:

Indeed, they need her 20 million supporters -- and they were tripping over themselves to make nice to the fallen candidate. "Hillary Clinton is a great, stalwart Democrat and a friend of mine," Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid announced to reporters, with Clinton at his side.

After Clinton's brief words to her colleagues at the lunch, Reid and other Democratic leaders formed a procession to escort Clinton toward the reporters outside. Reid described "one of the most emotional caucuses I've attended," complete with tears.

Hillary had this to say:

"I come back with an even greater depth of awareness about what we have to do here in Washington," she said. She spoke with vagueness about her new role ("to be the very best senator I can be"), her plans ("I'm rolling up my sleeves and getting back to work") and her vice presidential ambitions ("I am not seeking any other position"). And she repeated the requisite promise to "work very hard to elect Senator Obama our president."

Welcome back, Hillary. The news has been dull in your absence.

Update: Greta Van Susteran took some nice photos.

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    The Times (5.00 / 2) (#3)
    by andgarden on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 08:52:57 PM EST
    I liked Kerry's advice to her (5.00 / 2) (#38)
    by ruffian on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 09:18:36 PM EST
    that they quoted under the picture : "Ah, compartmentalize".  I imagine she does a lot of that to get through the day. Probably has for a long time.

    [ Parent ]
    she learned how to do that decades ago. (5.00 / 6) (#44)
    by hellothere on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 09:21:05 PM EST
    so maybe kerry is well meant in his comment, considering everything, it is a rather clueless comment.

    [ Parent ]
    I'm sure he was remembering his own race (none / 0) (#69)
    by ruffian on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 09:32:49 PM EST
    He had some unfair treatment to deal with too, as I recall. I've been as mad at him as anyone this primary season, but I think he knows what he is talking about in this area.

    [ Parent ]
    all true! but the clintons have dealt with the (5.00 / 13) (#79)
    by hellothere on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 09:38:06 PM EST
    hate and slime for a very very long time. considering kerry's conduct at several points in the primaries, i find his comment today clueless.

    [ Parent ]
    I was puzzled why Kerry would be quoted... (5.00 / 1) (#211)
    by magisterludi on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 11:26:20 PM EST
    then i remembered- he was the dem candidate in 2004.

    A mental block or is he that unremarkable? Both, probably.


    [ Parent ]

    Oh, thank you John Kerry. (5.00 / 17) (#52)
    by Shainzona on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 09:23:22 PM EST
    What would HRC do without you?

    [ Parent ]
    With all due respect (5.00 / 12) (#177)
    by ghost2 on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 10:55:21 PM EST
    She doesn't need his advice.  She has shown that she deals just fine with whatever life throws at her.  She is truely larger than life.

    Bet you quotes from all the usual crowd, who accused her of every thing possible and not under the sun, will be now coming fast and furious.  You hear she is a role model, blah blah...

    Once a woman doesn't threaten their place anymore, she is worthy of praise.

    I should stop here.

    [ Parent ]

    yes (5.00 / 2) (#221)
    by Edgar08 on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 11:41:02 PM EST
    everywhere I went people started talking about the woman differently the very moment they knew for sure she was defeated.

    [ Parent ]
    Hillary Clinton needs Kerry's advice? (4.93 / 15) (#141)
    by bridget on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 10:19:03 PM EST
    As if ....

    and btw. compared to Hillary he practically sleepwalked thru his own primary and presidential campaign. Too much compartmentalization I guess.

    I know, I know ... but I am not happy with all these Big Dems anymore. And to top it all of ... I can't think of one person I still respect right now. Not a single name comes to me right now ... None.

    They betrayed Hillary in a big way. The showed us what disloyalty looks like without batting an eyelid. They didn't support her and speak out when it was important to do so. They didn't dare defend  a legendary Dem like Geraldine Ferrarro and ignored the blatant sexism in this campaign. They didn't speak out for ME. That's what they didn't do cause they didn't think women were important enough.

    Not even someone like Barbara Boxer who lost my vote, too. Turns out that even Diane Feinstein showed more heart in the end than Boxer.

    They all couldn't betray both Clintons fast enough. For what?

    P.S. And Reid et al? grrrr.....

    [ Parent ]

    Times Caption: sameo, sameo (5.00 / 4) (#265)
    by cal1942 on Wed Jun 25, 2008 at 08:58:27 AM EST
    "Hillary Rodham Clinton emerged today to claim her well-paid, perk-laden consolation prize -- a return to the United States Senate, a place she has barely seen for the last 16 months."

    Simply more of the same.  What a crappy tone; cite the Clintons for what is routine and 'understandable' for anyone else.

    She earned her second term in the Senate by a landslide but the best we get from the Times' "writers" and "editors" is a suggestion that somehow she had been awarded a "perk laden consolation prize."

    Disgusting.

    [ Parent ]

    Great pic (4.80 / 20) (#36)
    by Valhalla on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 09:16:45 PM EST
    but ugh, sorry, Kerry being 'proud' of her makes me want to vomit.

    And could the NYT stop being snarky and anti-Clinton for just one day?:

    Hillary Rodham Clinton emerged today to claim her well-paid, perk-laden consolation prize -- a return to the United States Senate, a place she has barely seen for the last 16 months.


    [ Parent ]

    Kerry (5.00 / 1) (#86)
    by MichaelGale on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 09:41:53 PM EST
    told reporter that what he had to say to her was "compartmentalize".

    ?

    [ Parent ]

    obama is lucky Bill even acknowledged (4.73 / 15) (#109)
    by PssttCmere08 on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 09:58:17 PM EST
    him after the underhandedness displayed by obama and his campaign.

    [ Parent ]
    My guess would be that (5.00 / 5) (#140)
    by Valhalla on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 10:18:54 PM EST
    as far as Bill is concerned, they can whistle for it.

    But that's just a guess.  ;)

    [ Parent ]

    Isn't that the truth (5.00 / 1) (#194)
    by bridget on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 11:07:44 PM EST
    I would never acknowledge him ever again but that is why Bill was president for eight years and I am not ;-)

    [ Parent ]
    Both Clintons have showed remarkable (5.00 / 9) (#200)
    by PssttCmere08 on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 11:13:24 PM EST
    moxie, class and forebearance during the long primary campaign...hell for the last sixteen years!

    [ Parent ]
    look the clintons can never do enough for (4.71 / 14) (#65)
    by hellothere on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 09:28:16 PM EST
    obama. they could shine both shoes at the same time and someone would criticize. so hold your powder and wait for another day appears to be the rule of the day. it is obama's to win or lose.

    [ Parent ]
    This was my favorite line from (5.00 / 12) (#81)
    by Valhalla on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 09:39:22 PM EST
    a different article about her return.  In response to the VP question, she said:

    "This is totally Senator Obama's decision."

    And so it is.  So glad she's throwing up the firewall against any 'it's Hillary's fault' stuff early.

    [ Parent ]

    what was snarky about that? (none / 0) (#39)
    by moe21885 on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 09:19:17 PM EST
    U.S. Senator is a hell of a job, and good money says she'll be in the leadership structure in the next Congress.

    [ Parent ]
    I think it's the best job in the world (5.00 / 1) (#42)
    by andgarden on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 09:20:32 PM EST
    If she doesn't want it, I'll take it. :D

    (I can't actually; you've got to be 30).

    [ Parent ]

    Go ahead, rub it in (5.00 / 6) (#73)
    by ruffian on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 09:34:44 PM EST
    Something to look forward to when you grow up ;-)

    [ Parent ]
    chattering probably (2.33 / 3) (#55)
    by moe21885 on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 09:24:22 PM EST
    I love the Senate and it's a personal dream of mine to work for that institution. I don't have the personality or the acumen to actually win an election, but I'd kill to be even close to the incredible minds that make up that body.

    That's why I never understood those who were attacked for suggesting Clinton didn't exactly have a bad thing to fall back on.

    [ Parent ]

    Oh my, (5.00 / 7) (#67)
    by pie on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 09:29:38 PM EST
    but I'd kill to be even close to the incredible minds that make up that body.

    Like Inhofe, Coburn, Sessions...?

    [ Parent ]

    Ha - those minds would at least (5.00 / 6) (#75)
    by ruffian on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 09:36:02 PM EST
    make good scientific experiments. I'd like to get close to them with a scalpel and a few electrodes.

    [ Parent ]
    Kind of reminds me of the AB(normal) (5.00 / 3) (#103)
    by PssttCmere08 on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 09:53:16 PM EST
    brain picked out by eyegore (igor) in Young Frankenstein...gotta wonder about some of those minds...

    [ Parent ]
    X-nay on the onster-may! (none / 0) (#261)
    by suki on Wed Jun 25, 2008 at 08:19:58 AM EST
    My favorite line. I love that movie.

    [ Parent ]
    Some minds are more incredible than others (4.00 / 2) (#72)
    by moe21885 on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 09:34:33 PM EST
    :)

    [ Parent ]
    C'mon, pie, some of those minds really ARE ... (none / 0) (#84)
    by Ellie on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 09:41:00 PM EST
    ... incredible!

    [ Parent ]
    Incredible. (5.00 / 4) (#93)
    by pie on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 09:44:51 PM EST
    Okay.  I guess that adjective works.  

    I want one with a more negative connotation, like stupidest men ever.  :)

    [ Parent ]

    Those minds are really... (none / 0) (#251)
    by Grace on Wed Jun 25, 2008 at 01:14:27 AM EST
    uplifted?  (Like right out of their skulls?)

    unusual since they possess large voids that will produce echos if you yell at them just right?

    (I'm trying to help you here...)  ;-)


    [ Parent ]

    with all that has not been done for (5.00 / 1) (#97)
    by hellothere on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 09:47:31 PM EST
    americans since 06 i am sorry to say i no longer agree. i didn't always feel the way i do now. i have lose confidence in the so called great minds of the senate.

    [ Parent ]
    moe....if obama can make it, you can... (5.00 / 6) (#101)
    by PssttCmere08 on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 09:50:48 PM EST


    [ Parent ]
    Thanks! (5.00 / 1) (#104)
    by moe21885 on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 09:55:12 PM EST
    If you're comparing me to a cum-laude graduate of Harvard Law, a past president of the Harvard Law Review, a constitutional law scholar, a U.S. Senator and the next President of the United States, I must have made a hell of an impression on this blog :)

    [ Parent ]
    Let's not get crazy... :) All those things (5.00 / 3) (#134)
    by PssttCmere08 on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 10:13:00 PM EST
    don't count if you don't use them in a positive, for the good of America way.

    [ Parent ]
    I'm sorry (none / 0) (#136)
    by moe21885 on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 10:17:33 PM EST
    that you can't see the positive things that Obama has done for his community and his nation. Obviously he's younger than Hillary and hasn't been active in the public sphere as long but he's done a lot in his own right and will make a good president. I had my own issues with the way the primary was run, on both sides, but I would have voted for HRC in a heartbeat.

    [ Parent ]
    moe....voting for Hillary would be a smart (4.50 / 8) (#144)
    by PssttCmere08 on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 10:20:56 PM EST
    thing to do.  And, I can appreciate you are backing obama; however, the more you delve into his record, the more you see it is mostly superficial and lots of underhandedness involved.  Yes, many politicians use underhanded tactics, but not the ones touting themselves as the new coke, the person of hope and change, when clearly he is not.  We will just have to agree to disagree on this one.

    [ Parent ]
    Don't be discouraged, Moe... (5.00 / 1) (#234)
    by oldpro on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 11:53:43 PM EST
    ...get a good education, volunteer/work on campaigns...apply for a job with a Senate office or committee.

    It's not that hard to get there but it's extremely hard work, so staying there can be the problem!  Long hours and lousy pay but great experience and good connections.

    [ Parent ]

    Sorry, is this the new line (5.00 / 8) (#54)
    by Valhalla on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 09:24:19 PM EST
    to make Clinton supporters feel better?

    Just whose place is she going to take in the leadership?  Who's going to step aside for her?  Not Reid, certainly.

    [ Parent ]

    for some reason my reply to this was deleted (none / 0) (#77)
    by moe21885 on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 09:37:28 PM EST
    but I wouldn't at all be surprised to see her as DSCC chair, and I wouldn't be shocked if Reed didn't run for leader in January.

    [ Parent ]
    Reid has stated he's not going anywhere (5.00 / 22) (#102)
    by Valhalla on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 09:51:39 PM EST
    and he and Pelosi tried not only to push Obama to the finish line but push Hillary out of the race, starting in February. They're part of the fancy 'new coalition' in the DNC, the one that doesn't want anything to do with Clinton or her base (those uncouth working class, low information voters.  Oh yeah, and women, 'cuz they're such a problem).  They will not lift a finger to help her to any position of power, and if it were up to them, I'm sure she wouldn't have her Senate seat still.

    I don't believe all that NYT baloney about Hillary having a 'secret list' but I do believe she knows who her friends are, and Reid isn't on the list.

    JFK said: "Forgive your enemies, but never forget their names."

    [ Parent ]

    is it possible for you guys to post (none / 0) (#124)
    by moe21885 on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 10:06:14 PM EST
    without using all that invective?

    That's the first I've heard of Reid's assertion that he's going nowhere...got a link?

    [ Parent ]

    Google is your friend. (5.00 / 6) (#142)
    by Inky on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 10:20:19 PM EST
    Try it some time.

    Here you go:

    May 12, 2008

    Sen. Harry Reid on Monday brushed off the notion that he has any plans to cede his Majority Leader title once Hillary Clinton returns to the Senate full-time.

    Asked by The Huffington Post about reports that Clinton may be eyeing Reid's spot if (as seems likely) her presidential run is unsuccessful, the Nevada senator at first offered some humble niceties.

    "I do this job the best I can, with the full support of my senators," he said during a small breakfast with reporters. "I feel very comfortable with where I've gotten."

    Link

    [ Parent ]

    You first. (none / 0) (#137)
    by Valhalla on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 10:17:40 PM EST
    Where's the link that she's being considered for DSCC chair? Hmmmm?

    [ Parent ]
    He said... (5.00 / 3) (#147)
    by Alec82 on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 10:23:18 PM EST
    ...he wouldn't be surprised, not that he was aware of any such action.

     And since you all prefer to snipe at one another rather than provide links or look it up...

     From Bloomberg:

    The immediate consolation prize of a leadership job seems unlikely; Reid said in an April interview that the idea of him stepping down as majority leader in favor of Clinton was ``sheer folly.''

    And an overthrow of Reid isn't likely. ``That position isn't open,'' said North Dakota Senator Byron Dorgan, when asked about the possibility of Clinton taking over.



    [ Parent ]
    Actually, (5.00 / 4) (#267)
    by cal1942 on Wed Jun 25, 2008 at 09:12:50 AM EST
    anyone expecting a shakeup at the top of the Democratic "leadership" in Congress hasn't been paying attention.  

    The "leadership" got their cave-in candidate, they've consolidated their power. There will be no change at the top just more of the same. That's what the Orwellian campaign was all about - Change that really meant NO Change. Up is down, war is peace.

    [ Parent ]

    Greta (none / 0) (#243)
    by CHDmom on Wed Jun 25, 2008 at 12:20:02 AM EST
    Did you see her interview with Pelosi tonight? Interesting. there is a video at Gretawire fox it's 2 parts, the part about Hillary sexism and Obama and his church are the 2nd video

    [ Parent ]
    It's up next if anyone wants to watch (none / 0) (#247)
    by nycstray on Wed Jun 25, 2008 at 12:30:26 AM EST
    aka NOW!

    [ Parent ]
    She would be so far superior (5.00 / 6) (#112)
    by riddlerandy on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 10:00:06 PM EST
    to Reid

    [ Parent ]
    Even w/out Reid, there are others (none / 0) (#182)
    by Joan in VA on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 10:59:33 PM EST
    with seniority ahead of her.

    [ Parent ]
    Ain't gonna (none / 0) (#269)
    by cal1942 on Wed Jun 25, 2008 at 09:15:50 AM EST
    happen. Reid will remain Majority Leader or yield to one of his crowd.  Hillary Clinton is not in his crowd.

    [ Parent ]
    Because it's not a prize for 2nd place. (5.00 / 5) (#161)
    by Joan in VA on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 10:42:26 PM EST
    It's a job she won long ago. They infer that she's derelict of duty for running. Obama hasn't been there either but no mention of that.

    [ Parent ]
    uhhh... (none / 0) (#190)
    by moe21885 on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 11:05:07 PM EST
    I read no such inference, and why would they make a comment about Obama in a caption of a photo of Clinton?

    [ Parent ]
    lotsa commentary (none / 0) (#224)
    by Edgar08 on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 11:45:07 PM EST
    for a caption.  Why bother?

    [ Parent ]
    Reading comprehension (none / 0) (#270)
    by cal1942 on Wed Jun 25, 2008 at 09:38:59 AM EST


    [ Parent ]
    You Can... (4.00 / 4) (#258)
    by JimWash08 on Wed Jun 25, 2008 at 05:24:23 AM EST
    Watch a video of her arrival here.

    I really wish I'd known, and I'd taken off from work to join in the festivities. Politics ON TV is such a bore without her. Not just the snarking, but the balance of intelligence and vigour to the campaign goings-on that she brought against the two nitwits we have now.

    [ Parent ]

    She also put in her most direct unity pitch so far (5.00 / 1) (#8)
    by cannondaddy on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 08:58:54 PM EST
    "If you care about the issues I care about and the future that I outlined in my campaign, then you really have to stay with us in the Democratic Party and vote Sen. Obama to be our next president."


    I respect her and admire her (5.00 / 17) (#91)
    by MichaelGale on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 09:43:55 PM EST
    and I vote "no".  Sorry Hillary.

    [ Parent ]
    Still Here (5.00 / 15) (#132)
    by Athena on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 10:11:45 PM EST
    I still support Clinton - but not her endorsement.

    Great to see her again - yes, Jeralyn, it has been real dull for weeks.

    [ Parent ]

    Then (5.00 / 1) (#260)
    by cannondaddy on Wed Jun 25, 2008 at 08:06:22 AM EST
    you're not being supportive... If you truly want the same things she does, if you share her beliefs at all, you'd take actions that support them.  You are no longer a supporter, just a fan.

    [ Parent ]
    I love her...but I won't. (4.80 / 21) (#13)
    by Shainzona on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 09:02:04 PM EST
    No.  Can.  Do.

    [ Parent ]
    Shainzona....I wrote her today taking (5.00 / 6) (#115)
    by PssttCmere08 on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 10:02:38 PM EST
    referencing that quote....I said you can ask us to do a lot of things, we love and support you and we realize how much America needs you.  But, please do not ask us to vote for obama...it won't happen.

    [ Parent ]
    I can, IF she is VP....otherwise (4.37 / 8) (#61)
    by Aqua Blue on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 09:27:32 PM EST
    it's a protest vote for me.

    I will ruin my record of a sraight Democratic ticket in every election for more than 25 years.

    [ Parent ]

    Who the heck is Ovah? (5.00 / 7) (#83)
    by pie on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 09:40:18 PM EST
    The lollipop brigade needs to have a nap.

    [ Parent ]
    I think THEY think it works like Google bombing (4.50 / 8) (#126)
    by Ellie on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 10:06:43 PM EST
    Or Pepsi points. After a certain amount of mojo piles up equivalent to 1000 cans of sody pop, you get a key chain or a Happy Meal Toy.

    But if a pest downrates you with 1's ... NO TOY FOR YOU!!!!

    If it were Big Girl Toys I might go for the brass ring, which I heard is a really great toy. (Just sayin')

    [ Parent ]

    Really big girls (5.00 / 1) (#257)
    by Grace on Wed Jun 25, 2008 at 01:50:07 AM EST
    like things with batteries...

    Like new digital cameras and those fancy new cars that don't need any gas...

    ;-)

    [ Parent ]

    I agree (5.00 / 9) (#9)
    by sas on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 08:59:32 PM EST
    am still heartbroken.

    She should be the one....

    Leave it to the interns to know what's right! (5.00 / 6) (#10)
    by Shainzona on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 08:59:38 PM EST
    Oh, and they're not 60 year old over-the-hill women, either.....hmmmmmmm.

    Were we expecting (5.00 / 20) (#17)
    by Coldblue on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 09:06:00 PM EST
    otherwise?

    Her fellow senators sold her out, but now that they need her...

    Just sayin'

    I'm used (5.00 / 3) (#19)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 09:06:37 PM EST
    to it and I really don't care. It reflects poorly on the rater more than anything else.

    [ Parent ]
    sold her out? (5.00 / 1) (#198)
    by tben on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 11:12:18 PM EST
    hows that? Was she somehow entitled to their support?

    [ Parent ]
    Yes, you see, how it's done in politics (5.00 / 4) (#207)
    by Cream City on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 11:20:25 PM EST
    tben, is that people helped along the way return the favor.  But it's clear from your comments here that you don't quite grasp human/political interactions.

    [ Parent ]
    absolutely (5.00 / 2) (#219)
    by tben on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 11:37:37 PM EST
    Finally, something we can agree on. I absolutely do not quite grasp the concept of supporting someone for the highest political job in the land, and the leadership of my party, based solely on what favors the various candidates have done for me.
    I would have no respect for someone who threw their support to someone on those grounds only. If those grounds were a tiebreaker, then sure. Those grounds have a role in the calculation in any case, becuase obviously one has a level of trust for people who have been helpful and freindly. But is that the determinitive factor? Absolutely not.

    We do see politicians for whom that IS the most important factor - George Bush is legendary for the importance he places in loyalty and the byzantine webs of obligation that spawns. You see the kind of administration that results from that, and the behavior that results when loyalty becomes a central tenet of ones ethics.

    [ Parent ]

    Amazingly (5.00 / 5) (#223)
    by Cream City on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 11:44:01 PM EST
    it's really not all about you, tben.

    [ Parent ]
    oh gee, really? (none / 0) (#233)
    by tben on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 11:53:09 PM EST
    was that your attempt at snark? Pfft!

    Somehow your (lack of) response makes me suspect that you know that I am right. That you really do accept that politicians, like everyone else, have a right and (especially for them) a responsibility to put the interests of the country ahead of all other considerations, including personal friendships and loyalties, when making decisions of such importance.

    I know it must be hard. People you otherwise respect come to different conclusions than you did. Actually, I am not sure why it is so hard. You dont sound like you lack confidence in your own decision - something that often lies beneath a lashing out at those who decided otherwise. So what is it? Is it totally beyond your ability to even imagine that someone like Ted Kennedy might actually think Obama was the best person for the job?

    Most people would find it a lot easier to respect you for your opinions if you could show yourself capable of respecting them for theirs.

    [ Parent ]

    when the only form (5.00 / 5) (#237)
    by Edgar08 on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 11:59:46 PM EST
    of loyalty you can imagine is the kind that exists in the bush white house, then its hard to respect your opinions.

    Same for obama when he equates ALL preconditions as bush-lite.

    [ Parent ]

    thats a rather ridiculous statement (none / 0) (#241)
    by tben on Wed Jun 25, 2008 at 12:10:44 AM EST
    the only one I can think of? Is it not obvious that it was simply the most obvious, and telling example?

    Is this REALLY what you look for in your politicians - that they make monumental and consequential decisions based on who thier friends are, rather than making a judgement on their own as to what they think best for the country?

    I am not sure I understand what your second sentence means.

    [ Parent ]

    you're still doing it (5.00 / 1) (#246)
    by Edgar08 on Wed Jun 25, 2008 at 12:27:30 AM EST
    creating a false choice between who your friends are and making good decisions.

    [ Parent ]
    would you care to expalin what you mean? (none / 0) (#249)
    by tben on Wed Jun 25, 2008 at 12:42:24 AM EST
    Obviously the two can overlap, but that is obviously not the case under discussion. What happens when they dont overlap?

    [ Parent ]
    You think (none / 0) (#250)
    by Edgar08 on Wed Jun 25, 2008 at 12:57:57 AM EST
    you got to decide what was being discussed, all on your own,eh?

    [ Parent ]
    Well, (none / 0) (#248)
    by tree on Wed Jun 25, 2008 at 12:37:36 AM EST
    Most people would find it a lot easier to respect you for your opinions if you could show yourself capable of respecting them for theirs.

    Think outside the little box you're in. Assume for a second that other people might actually see things differently than you do and still not be "ridiculous". It might help your understanding.

    [ Parent ]

    Oh, tben, you want to know what it is? (5.00 / 2) (#238)
    by Cream City on Wed Jun 25, 2008 at 12:02:01 AM EST
    It's that you're just a joke here, tben.  And thanks, but I don't look to anonymous youngsters on a blog to fill up my respect quota.  I get plenty from more credible sources, who even sign their names.:-)

    [ Parent ]
    now thats not very nice of you (none / 0) (#240)
    by tben on Wed Jun 25, 2008 at 12:06:52 AM EST
    except that I do thank you for the "youngster" line - its been a few decades since I was on the recieving end of one of those!

    [ Parent ]
    I don't think the comment was intended (5.00 / 2) (#244)
    by tree on Wed Jun 25, 2008 at 12:20:23 AM EST
    as snark. Your post prior was filled with your reaction, your party, what you would approve of and could therefore comprehend. Cream's comment was a simple invitation to look at the issue from any other viewpoint than what YOU think is the only valid one to have(which, unremarkably, is the very one that you believe in.)

    Most people would find it a lot easier to respect you for your opinions if you could show yourself capable of respecting them for theirs.

    If ever there was a poster who needed to head his own statement, you are that poster and this is the statement.

    [ Parent ]

    I predict that she will return (5.00 / 16) (#31)
    by athyrio on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 09:14:32 PM EST
    in 4 years stronger than ever as almost 18 million of us have voted for her and have a vested interest in her which is far more popular than she started out this primary season....She will be a power to behold....:-)

    well she needs to be a leader for (5.00 / 1) (#145)
    by hellothere on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 10:23:07 PM EST
    her supporters during the upcoming period. how to do that within the party should be interesting. i would recommend just supporting those things that are good for all americans. that alone will continue her popularity.

    [ Parent ]
    Oh, they sure love her now (5.00 / 23) (#48)
    by Steve M on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 09:21:49 PM EST
    Considering the lack of courage displayed by the Dem caucus in general, I'm surprised some of them have the guts to look her in the eye after the disrespectful way they treated her during this primary.  I wonder if Sen. Kennedy thinks she's noble enough to be back in the Senate chamber.

    If Kennedy never steps back into the chamber (5.00 / 1) (#60)
    by andgarden on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 09:26:43 PM EST
    I won't be surprised.

    There's a potential transition here worth pointing out, even if he acted like a you know what.

    [ Parent ]

    Well (5.00 / 5) (#71)
    by Steve M on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 09:33:53 PM EST
    It goes without saying that I wish Sen. Kennedy the best of health, regardless of all that other stuff.

    [ Parent ]
    Amen to that. (5.00 / 2) (#183)
    by A little night musing on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 11:00:03 PM EST
    I haven't been so happy with Teddy recently, but no one has been a better friend of the poor and forgotten in the Senate.

    Some Kennedy (John Jr., I think) wrote about all that money being of value so that they could do public service. And they have. They have.

    That's great legacy.

    [ Parent ]

    I would be surprised (none / 0) (#68)
    by Valhalla on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 09:31:43 PM EST
    although I have no basis for that.  Maybe just because the Kennedys have made such a bit deal about showing how recovered and well he is.  (Although maybe that's really just the media).

    If he steps down, doesn't Deval Patrick get to pick the replacement for the remainder of his term?

    [ Parent ]

    Nope, (4.50 / 2) (#80)
    by andgarden on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 09:38:29 PM EST
    He is required to call a special election. The Dems in the state legislature made sure of that in 2004 so Mitt Romney couldn't appoint a Republican.

    [ Parent ]
    That is correct (none / 0) (#146)
    by befuddledvoter on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 10:23:07 PM EST
    but the buzz in the legislature is to file another bill to return the authority to the governor.  

    [ Parent ]
    who is doing that and why would be an (none / 0) (#179)
    by hellothere on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 10:56:30 PM EST
    interesting read don't you think.

    [ Parent ]
    Are they afraid (none / 0) (#197)
    by Valhalla on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 11:11:26 PM EST
    a Republican would win an open seat in a general election?  The only person I can think they'd be afraid of is Mitt, but seeing how few people were sad to see him leave the governorship, I don't think he's really a threat.  Unless there's some other carpetbagger out there... maybe I'm just not creative enough.

    Is this something really being buzzed about in the legislature, or is Deval Patrick pushing it?  I'm sure he'd like the power back.

    [ Parent ]

    i have read that the gov is not so popular (none / 0) (#218)
    by hellothere on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 11:36:37 PM EST
    these days.

    [ Parent ]
    He's not (none / 0) (#225)
    by Valhalla on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 11:45:22 PM EST
    Last time I checked (which was several weeks ago) his approval ratings were around 40%.  And he'd just lost a big protracted fight with the legislature over casinos in Mass.

    Which is why I was wondering if the 'buzz' is really in the legislature, or coming from him.  Or maybe from his supporters in the legislature.

    [ Parent ]

    who would he favor? (none / 0) (#228)
    by hellothere on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 11:48:29 PM EST
    and as i read earlier would't there be a special election?

    [ Parent ]
    Special Election, yes (none / 0) (#252)
    by Valhalla on Wed Jun 25, 2008 at 01:20:36 AM EST
    There would have to be a special election under current law.  But befuddledvoter said he/she had heard buzz that the legislature was thinking of giving that power back to the governor.

    From what andgarden said upthread, the Mass. legislature only went with the special election option so that had Kerry won in 2004, Mitt Romney couldn't replace him with a Republican.

    So I was just wondering where the buzz is coming from -- really from the legislature, or ultimately from Patrick, who I assume would rather have the power in his hands.  Not many governors wouldn't prefer to have the power to appoint interim Senators/Reps, I'm sure.

    [ Parent ]

    Senator Kennedy (none / 0) (#268)
    by samanthasmom on Wed Jun 25, 2008 at 09:12:59 AM EST
    would like his wife, Vicki, to complete his term if he is not able.

    [ Parent ]
    Glad that she's getting kudos (5.00 / 9) (#59)
    by blogtopus on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 09:26:30 PM EST
    from somebody nowadays.

    I think she's a powerful politician and she'd make an amazing Senate Majority Leader. I don't think she's out of Obama's hair as much as he thinks she is; hopefully she'll keep his and his fellow DINOs' feet to the fire while in the Senate.

    Should the unthinkable happen, and Obama loses the election, I don't think there will be any words more looked forward to seeing than 'Hillary Clinton kicks off second run for the presidency' in February 2011.

    Did Harry Reid Really Cry? (5.00 / 1) (#62)
    by catfish on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 09:27:45 PM EST
    After Clinton's brief words to her colleagues at the lunch, Reid and other Democratic leaders formed a procession to escort Clinton toward the reporters outside. Reid described "one of the most emotional caucuses I've attended," complete with tears.

    I wonder who it was that cried...

    men cry also. they are just as emotional (5.00 / 2) (#74)
    by hellothere on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 09:35:07 PM EST
    as women though some might not want to admit it. we are all on the same boat together.

    [ Parent ]
    Were they crying in joy or in pain (5.00 / 6) (#116)
    by catfish on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 10:02:49 PM EST
    like
    1. why, god, why didn't this dynamic, radiant, brilliant woman win the primary?
    2. please, Hillary, please forgive me for stabbing you in the back
    3. isn't it great to see her ... now I'm getting verklempt


    [ Parent ]
    Crocodile tears don't count !! (5.00 / 5) (#129)
    by PssttCmere08 on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 10:08:40 PM EST


    [ Parent ]
    smile! a big grin! (5.00 / 1) (#151)
    by hellothere on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 10:27:14 PM EST
    but very true and good insight!

    [ Parent ]
    Thank you ma'am! (5.00 / 1) (#162)
    by PssttCmere08 on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 10:43:45 PM EST


    [ Parent ]
    Jame Gumb (5.00 / 1) (#166)
    by Edgar08 on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 10:45:57 PM EST
    Cried.

    [ Parent ]
    I cry every time I think of Reid... (5.00 / 6) (#153)
    by Shainzona on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 10:31:53 PM EST
    and Pelosi, and Kennedy, and Kerry, and Dean and Brazile and, big wails of horror when I even hear the name Barack Obama.

    [ Parent ]
    Ellie, you're the bomb! (5.00 / 8) (#64)
    by Valhalla on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 09:28:09 PM EST
    You always, always make me laugh, even at my most bitter.  Bitter laughter, often, but laugh nonetheless.

    I think I got nuked (5.00 / 6) (#100)
    by Ellie on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 09:50:37 PM EST
    In the ether, then:

    An oPest Said: HRC would have to work hard to earn back her rep.

    Another Pest (me) said: I heard in Gym class that she puts out n/t

    Just so you don't get a rep for disembodied @ss kissing :-)

    [ Parent ]

    I'm glad she is back to work (5.00 / 3) (#82)
    by roadburdened on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 09:39:30 PM EST
    but I could do without the unity talk. I don't think I could have voted for Clinton, so I don't expect her supporters to vote for Obama just because she wants them to.

    Reid came across as somewhat classy.

    Welcome back Senator. (5.00 / 4) (#87)
    by AX10 on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 09:42:19 PM EST
    I still am voting for McCain though.

    Jeralyn (5.00 / 6) (#105)
    by CoralGables on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 09:55:54 PM EST
    I don't envy your job going through these comments lately. Even a very positive post on Hillary has the ability to get off track into an anti-Obama rant.

    It's good to see Senator Clinton back in the Senate where she does great "policy wonk" work and I still hope to see her on the ticket in November.

    the anti-obama comments (5.00 / 0) (#110)
    by moe21885 on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 09:58:53 PM EST
    aren't the ones being deleted

    [ Parent ]
    personal attacks (5.00 / 5) (#123)
    by Jeralyn on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 10:05:48 PM EST
    drive by snipes, insults and posts calling either campaign or candidate racist are what's deleted. And yes, most of those deleted have been anti-Obama.

    Disagreement is one thing, name-calling and attacks are another.

    And no, I no longer am monitoring comments like I used to. I don't have the time.

    If I get an e-mail or see an objectionable comment while briefly perusing the thread, I delete. Those that remain just mean I didn't see it.

    [ Parent ]

    Jeralyn, you deserve a rest from this (5.00 / 2) (#188)
    by Ellie on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 11:03:44 PM EST
    Put up a bat to hire an intern to learn specialty blogging from IMO a couple of of the best and we'll get the dough together.

    You do far too much as it is.

    [ Parent ]

    True that (5.00 / 6) (#212)
    by Jane in CA on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 11:26:40 PM EST
    Thank you for the great post, Jeralyn and the great blog. I left here out of respect once you declared for unity, but find there isn't a single other site out there that offers the intelligent posts and discourse on timely issues that this one does.

    In short, you, BTD, and all the exceptional commenters here have spoiled me for the other blogs :)

    The civility is largely what keeps the conversation so stimulating, and that does appear to be more of a problem now than it was when I posted on a relatively regular basis. So ... I agree with Ellie.  I'll happily chip in for an intern to help you with moderation if that's what it takes to maintain the respect and civility that keeps so many of us coming back.


    [ Parent ]

    why i'd even cash in my milk bottles. (5.00 / 1) (#232)
    by hellothere on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 11:51:17 PM EST
    just kidding! i'd contribute. jeralyn has to have time or her career and herself like the rest of us. i include btd and chris in that also.

    [ Parent ]
    you must check out these (5.00 / 5) (#113)
    by NJDem on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 10:00:21 PM EST
    pics  (warning, Greta/Fox link, but it's worth it).

    I looked at this crowd and thought "miss her much?"
    (hypocrisy aside)

    And I always like to point out that during this primary season neither presumed nominee was able to sponsor a bill in the Senate, she sponsored four!  

    Can't wait to hear her take on FISA...

    Thanks for the link! (5.00 / 4) (#173)
    by nycstray on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 10:52:51 PM EST
    Looks like a nice reception she had there.

    Not only did she sponsor 4 bills, I was following her news page on her site. She was very aware of what was going on in "our world" and didn't fail to make a statement, policy proposal etc. She was generally the first (or only) and often most thorough.  I've got "my agenda" for her which includes some of the issues she addressed on her site.  :)

    [ Parent ]

    Absolutely, (5.00 / 3) (#186)
    by NJDem on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 11:03:05 PM EST
    on her site she'd even put out statements for meat recalls, etc.  

    And did you see this

    From Politico:
    Clinton Gets Royal Treatment Upon Senate Return

    Talk about rolling out the red carpet...

    "Clinton even went through the rarely used east door of the Senate on the second floor--strolling in just below the large glass US Senate emblem around 1:10 p.m.--fashionably late for the weekly Democratic policy lunch. It's a door that not even the vice president uses when he makes his weekly visit to the Senate GOP luncheon."

    She used a 'secret' door that even Cheney doesn't use!

    [ Parent ]

    Oh oh, now Cheney will read about it (5.00 / 1) (#208)
    by Cream City on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 11:21:59 PM EST
    and want to use it next time.  Darn, we made it all these years without anyone tipp