Obama still needs 41.4% of the remaining delegates with this FL/MI plan? I thought the math was worse than that for Clinton.

BTW, where are those 50 SDs that Obama had in his pocket that were going to come out and end this thing.

"Clinton's best-case scenario still overwhelmingly favors Obama. So yes, the outcome of the nomination campaign is now a foregone conclusion.

The former president tells Jay Leno Wednesday night that the two states' delegations should not be seated at August's convention because they "disqualified themselves."
"It would be a catastrophe for the party." (Via Halperin)

Obama supporters must be more than thrilled to accept this plan. Except

I guess we will have post after post on how Hillary doesn't care about MI and can't win the state in the GE.

This "compromise" proposes to reduce Hillary's delegates by 4, award all of the Uncommitted delegates to someone who was not even on the ballot, and increase that total by 4.

I would reject it, too, on the basis of our not having a practice of giving votes and delegates to candidates who did not stand for election by being on the ballot.  And I would further reject it on the basis that we are not in the practice of unilaterally deciding to take delegates away from a candidate for no reason that has any legitimacy.

Finally, manipulating the delegate count as proposed is in defiance of the actual vote.  If I lived in Michigan and had voted, I would wonder whether my vote for Hillary had effectively been canceled and given to a candidate for whom I did not vote.

Obama rejected every single proposal that would force him to stand for election in Michigan; Hillary rejecting this proposal is not "bad," unless you think she should approve - that we all should approve - of giving in to the willful tantrums of a candidate who outmaneuvered himself and now wants to subvert the political process to his own benefit.

Heck, using Obama's rationale, a general election where McCain was on the ballot against Uncommitted would result in a landslide victory for Obama, right?

Plain and Simple.

Oh, and btw. re Obama: one rule states since he campaigned in Florida - something conveniently  ignored by the DNC and the Braziles - he may not receive any votes/delegates at all. In comparison HC did nothing wrong in Florida.

His supporters (with his tacit approval) have said some of the most vile things I have ever read about a fellow Democrat, and he has been marginally better.  He has said Hillary "was in her element" in regard to the debate.  He has said "you're likeable enough Hillary", small town Pennsylvanians cling to guns and religion, are bitter, and last week he said people without jobs have lost their dignity.  He has associated himself with Wright Ayers, and Rezko.  He called his grandmother (who really raised him), a "typical white person".  His wife said she would have to think about supporting Hillary, and just recently became proud of her country for the first time in her life.

He and his supporters have blocked re-votes in Michigan and Florida, and he is content to leave alone that these two states be disenfranchised just so he can win.

it is not rocket science that we, as a party, shouldn't/can't push a candidate who has lost the delegate count (WHICH DETERMINES THE NOMINEE) and the popular vote.  that will alienate the people the voted for him - the MAJORITY of voters.

It will happen when it is over.

Based on the passage you quoted in your previous post aobut the DNC being the primary obstacle now it sounds as though the Obama camp is saying that they are OK with it now. That's some pretty big confidence.

The arguments for her seem overly-optimistic.

Yes, Florida probably won't be seated as is, and I probably should not have written that it would be. Still, that is why this is Clinton's best-case scenario. And it ain't very good.

she did not, the number stays at 2,025 and its not Obama's fault. The State of Michigan came up with this proposal on their own to get their delegates seated and now Hillary is the one who is blocking it.

First of all, the strongest Democratic areas of the state are in South Florida and scattered in small pockets elsewhere.  Floridians are not as liberal as Obama.  Look at the demographics of our state, it's obvious with a quick glance.  Central Florida between the I4 corridor from Orlando to Tampa is a very conservative Republican area.  Most other Republicans are moderate.

Reasons Floridians won't vote for Obama:

1. FLORIDAN DISENFRANCHISEMENT BY OBAMA DIRECTLY
Although our own government and the Florida Republican Party were the main culprits for moving our state primary forward, the Florida DNC could have been more outspoken BUT, the Obama Campaign pulled all their muscles to ensure no resolution be made until he secured his nomination.  We are not stupid!  and we are paying close attention.

2. RADICAL VIEWS AND ASSOCIATIONS
His radical views and associations conflict emotionally with several of our communities:
 a-The Che Guevara "themed" Obama office in Texas has greatly offended thousands of Cubans in Miami.  Obama's response was rectroactive and did nothing to undue the damage or remove the Cuban Flag with Che's image on it.
b- His associations with leaders who are anti-Jewish will not play well with our Jewish community.
c - Hispanics, especially those in Miami including Cubans and Venezuelan have not taken well his policies to have complete initial contacts with these two anti-democratic regimes.

3. DNC'S BIAS TOWARDS OBAMA
Donna Brazile obviously stated that the Old Democratic Coalition  composed of Blue Collar hard working Americans and Hispanic Americans are not needed.  She believes there is a new Democratic Party composed of America's idealistic youth and Urban voters.
a - This hasn't played well among Hispanics.  And...FYI, we don't consider Bill Richardson as "Hispanic".  And he is just a judas in our opinion...I would keep him far away as possible to any campaign, Carville destroyed him on CNN.  The man is an idiot and a child.

4. MISLEADING PEOPLE ABOUT THE CLINTONS
This is the most unforgivable.  The Clintons have been vilified by the Obama campaign from the start.  His removal of his name from the Michigan ballot and then turning around and convincing the rest to do the same to use that effort to make Hillary look bad in Iowa is unacceptable.  Until a FULL DISCLOSURE to this move they did and allow Iowans to know what truly happened in Michigan, Obama will be not be a credible Democratic nominee.

5. DEMOCRATS NEED THE STRONGEST CANDIDATE
I will immediately remove myself from the Democratic Party if the supers do not choose the strongest candidate to go up against John McCain.  Trust me, if Hillary is not given the nomination and Obama as her VP.  McCain will get Condi RIce and they will get the Women vote, the Blue Collar votes to show the true racists that the WILL vote for an African American, if he or she SHARED their values.  McCain has launched a Hispanic PR campaign and will get the support of Hispanics if Hillary is not the nominee.

Therefore, at this POINT the math should be NOVEMBER.  Forget this stupid proportional delegate distribution system that does NOT work.  We need to select the best candidate and the best person for the job.

third time in two hours. "McCain offered chance to leave but refused to leave his men behind"

Obama has NO SHOT in the GE.  

Polls indicate that upwards of 40% of clinton's supporters will vote for McCain instead of Obama, though he is anti-choice, etc.

I'm asking this sincerely- what has Obama done that has been so antagonizing and alienating to Clinton's supporters?