Everything we're hearing is that a deal over Florida and Michigan could be cut in the next few days. The Obama campaign apparently realizes they have plenty of room to give. The hurdle isn't Clinton and Obama anymore, though; it is folks in the DNC who believe those two recalcitrant states still need to be punished in some form, so states realize there are consequences to doing this in 2012. The latest offer from Michigan is a 69-59 split, with supers going however they want. The two state parties don't want to be halved, meaning their delegate votes become .5, a la Democrats Abroad. But it's clear to us that DNC types want some flesh on this issue. Many hate the idea of Florida and Michigan getting full delegations simply because now it appears their delegations won't make a difference in the process.

If they meet and solve the problem with MI, FL to the  satisfaction of and fairness of her supporters, we can get beyond the math.

Untill then she has nothing to lose except votes if she drops out. And she needs to rack up popular votes. She shouldn't pull and Obama like in the 2 states everyone is fighting over.

10 million even 30 million is just a book away from either Clinton.  They could likely sign book deals right now and get enough to finance the whole campaign for the mere 28 days left.

They wouldn't even have to have donor support.

She won't take a dime from Obama, and that I would bet on big time.

She then asked, "Don't the democrats party know they're splitting the party right in half?!"

Ya could have knocked me over with a feather.  People get it.  It's not just people on the blogs.

Stupid, stupid, stupid.

This "Hillary is in debt" narrative sounds a lot like the "50 supers are going to announce for Obama" after Ohio bit that circulated awhile ago, or the party elders are furiously working behind the scenes to secure Hillary the majority leader spot or Governor of NY  so she'll dropout story that circulated before Penn.

The Obama people have been saying for months that the forces of destiny are lining up against Hillary. Nothing new. And Obama is wrong as usual about the power of the Hillary camp. He can't win outright so he has to come up with some story to deflate Hillary supporters.

Hillary won Indiana.  That was the tie-breaker per Obama himself.  She is just as viable as ever.  

I say on to the Convention! Stop the losing streak of the Democratic national party!

What supers need to remember is the Ned Lamont campaign.  He won big over the national party's former VP!  Lamont was extremely popular with the left wing of the party and esp. with the netroots because of his opposition to the Iraqi war.  So, Lieberman went around him and won handily because he is a moderate.  Most of the electorate is in the middle, and Obama's essentially a single issue candidate - Iraq.  That is not the most important issue to most Americans. So long as Dems keep running candidates who most appeal to the far left of the party - such as McGovern, Mondale, Dukakis, Kerry - the party will never get the White House back.  

i don't know how the rest of you feel, but for me, as new facts have unfolded, this campaign is no longer simply about winning in november.  i agree with koshembos's comment to shystee's latest post at corrente:

The issue is not of being pissed off. The issue is that we were rejected, our values disregarded, our past poopooed and our nemeses embraced. The Obamacans are history-less, they are not the continuation of Bill Clinton and even our "god" FDR, they are a new beginning. That, of course, is scary and reminisces of the worst regimes the world has seen. We have a history and tradition, we cannot turn the switch and fall in love with Obama. It's over.

- "Not being jerks about it" solves exactly nothing. It's not hurt feelings; it's a hurt credo.

Obama intentionally and explicitly discards the FDR coalition which is the foundation of the Democratic party. Namely, he is a 3rd party candidate that is in the midst of a hostile take over of the Democratic party.

It's an attempt to demoralize Clinton supporters and humiliate her.  Part-and-parcel with the Obama/Blogger Boys/MSM strategy for the past several months.

Eearth to Obama campaign:  if you want the votes of Clinton supporters, cut the crap.  Stop leaking this stuff and deal with Hillary directly.

This is just one of the several scenarios the media has come up with. The media is like a relay race. At the close of one program, the following moderator grabs the baton and keeps spinning the same story until someone along the way comes up with something even more insulting against the Clinton camp.

One major concern for me is that a huge bulk of that debt is to Mark Penn, who is owed at least $5m, if not more by now.  There is no reason why she should have continued to pay that wanker millions for the horrible way he has run this campaign.  I have also heard that Wolfson gets paid hundreds of thousands a month.  I know he does a great service, but this is not a campaign that even considered from the beginning that it should be run within any rational budgetary demands.  Why stay at the Bellagio in Vegas?  Why fly ordinary staffers around the country first class?  The catering bills in Iowa were atrocious.

The way that this campaign has been run both financially and strategically has been a disaster.  And since the end of Febuary, the strategy finally was found, but all of the money was already wasted.  It's a disgrace and while I think she would be a better GE candidate, I think it is wrong of her to continue to ask moderate income people to continue to donate to her campaign, when it seems clear that money is not to continue to run a campaign, but to pay off Penn, who is a multi-millionaire.

on the other she has 100 million dollars and she decided to keep going, I don't see why anyone else should pay off her debt when she is able to.

and if she won't I think her supporters should pay it off first, before the money I gave is used to pay her debts.

but on the other hand if it once and for all ends all this.

I know she's got that warchest.