TalkLeft Appreciation Days

Update: New Posts are below this one. Just scroll down. We'll be bumping this to the top periodically through lunchtime. Thanks, everyone.


We're working really hard. Not just at keeping you up to date with the latest on tomorrow's primaries, but in making sure the site stays civil and weeding out the drive-bys who come here not to have a reasonable debate but to slam and insult our readers or try to hijack or dominate the discussion.

This takes an increasing amount of my time because site traffic and comments are way up.

If you appreciate our coverage, today and tomorrow are the days to let us know. If you're short on funds, don't give it another thought, we'll get by:

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Here's the paypal link, it's very easy. If you don't like paypal (which takes credit cards if you don't have a paypal account) feel free to pull a few dollars out of your pocket and send it snail mail. The address is below the fold.

If you'd like to donate anonymously, here's the Amazon link.

If you can't afford a few dollars, don't worry about it. This is only meant for those who can. Thanks to all of you for reading TalkLeft. You are all appreciated, including those who politely disagree with us.

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    Appreciation (5.00 / 2) (#1)
    by AnninCA on Mon May 05, 2008 at 04:07:27 PM EST
    forthcoming.  You guys really have done a great job.


    Thank you Jeralyn! (5.00 / 2) (#2)
    by andgarden on Mon May 05, 2008 at 04:08:15 PM EST

    Appreciation sent. (5.00 / 3) (#3)
    by Stellaaa on Mon May 05, 2008 at 04:09:02 PM EST

    Likewise! (5.00 / 2) (#6)
    by andgarden on Mon May 05, 2008 at 04:17:30 PM EST
    Done! (5.00 / 5) (#4)
    by stillife on Mon May 05, 2008 at 04:15:45 PM EST
    A small price to pay.  Without TalkLeft, I'd be verklempt. =)

    On its way, with thanks (5.00 / 4) (#5)
    by Anne on Mon May 05, 2008 at 04:17:27 PM EST
    for keeping my blood pressure within somewhat normal limits!

    Exactly my sentiments too (none / 0) (#88)
    by LHinSeattle on Tue May 06, 2008 at 01:19:41 AM EST

    Expect the sacks of rice to arrive (5.00 / 3) (#7)
    by Stellaaa on Mon May 05, 2008 at 04:17:34 PM EST
    Hah...rice is a more stable commodity now that the US dollar.  

    i know (5.00 / 1) (#12)
    by boredmpa on Mon May 05, 2008 at 04:30:37 PM EST
    I just got a Food Collection notice from the post office folks.  And I'm really wondering if it's legit or not, I mean they could be reselling it to Foods Co for extra cash.  Also, my mailperson looks a little like the MUNI guy that had a half-ton of change stashed away.  What was he thinking; hoarding coins is such a bad choice!



    Yes...... (none / 0) (#54)
    by michitucky on Mon May 05, 2008 at 07:30:50 PM EST
    It's totally legit.  Please donate what you can!!!

    They do that here in Cal (none / 0) (#76)
    by dianem on Mon May 05, 2008 at 09:05:12 PM EST
    You have to wonder what the world is coming to when the USPS has to collect food to give to needy people. And we just finished giving to a read-a-thon for my nephews elementary school district so that they can afford to buy books for the libraries and have a music program. What's the old line: Wouldn't it be nice if schools were fully funded and they had to hold a bake sale to pay for a war?

    Actually... (none / 0) (#103)
    by kdog on Tue May 06, 2008 at 05:21:31 PM EST
    nickels  are an excellent choice...melt them puppies down and they're worth 0.068.  Pre-1982 pennies are worth 0.025 in metal.

    That's why it's against the law to sell them for scrap...but if the sh*t ever really hits the fan they're both more valuable than 100 bills.

    Maybe we should send our favorite blogger a donation in change...lol

    I'll get something over in the next few weeks,...as much as I see the election as pointless I still love the joint:)


    Will have funds on Fri, and will send (none / 0) (#101)
    by FlaDemFem on Tue May 06, 2008 at 12:53:48 PM EST
    to the Amazon link. And this is OT, but given the rice mention in Stellaaa's post, I thought I would post this link..Free Rice It is a word game and for every word you get right, 20 grains of rice are donated to the United Nations World Food Program. 180,406,920 grains of rice were donated yesterday. Over 31 billion grains of rice have been donated through this site. That feeds a lot of people. And there are some great links for green and helpful sites on the Free Rice site. I play it a lot and usually get to the top tiers in the vocabulary level. Side effect of being a reader. Heh.

    Go to there, send your kids there, improve your vocabulary, or practice it, and feed people while having fun. I try to play every day for at least a few minutes. You try too.  Please.


    Friday's my day too. (none / 0) (#102)
    by MMW on Tue May 06, 2008 at 01:51:09 PM EST
    Thanks TalkLeft for sanity.

    done (5.00 / 1) (#8)
    by Nasarius on Mon May 05, 2008 at 04:20:00 PM EST
    Thanks for everything!

    Check's In The Mail (5.00 / 1) (#9)
    by squeaky on Mon May 05, 2008 at 04:22:11 PM EST
    You are the best.

    I have to remember to turn off (5.00 / 2) (#10)
    by Lahdee on Mon May 05, 2008 at 04:27:54 PM EST
    the auto refresh before I write something, this is take four. Yes, I am blog impaired today. Thank You Jeralyn, more appreciation on the way.

    done (5.00 / 2) (#11)
    by wasabi on Mon May 05, 2008 at 04:30:15 PM EST
    I want to thank the both of your for keeping me sane these last few months.  I still want to believe that "progressives" act as progressives.  Unfortunately that doesn't appear to be so lately on many leftie blogs.  An eye-opener for me.

    You run a first-class joint here.

    Thank you! (5.00 / 1) (#13)
    by Josey on Mon May 05, 2008 at 04:38:02 PM EST
    check's in the mail.

    Thanks Talk Left Crew (5.00 / 2) (#14)
    by Marco21 on Mon May 05, 2008 at 04:38:54 PM EST
    I just donated anonymously via Amazon. Seriously, I, Marco21, did.

    (sorry, I am in a dorky mood today and thought that'd somehow be funny)

    Money well spent. Thanks again.

    Appreciation (5.00 / 1) (#15)
    by nfstltx on Mon May 05, 2008 at 04:39:13 PM EST
    I lurk but really like the discussions here - happy to have contributed some dollars

    great, great site (5.00 / 1) (#16)
    by karen for Clinton on Mon May 05, 2008 at 04:42:02 PM EST
    Thank you so much for this site.

    however, all my spare cash is going to Hillary right now.

    I think you might understand that.  :-)

    <3 (5.00 / 2) (#17)
    by reynwrap582 on Mon May 05, 2008 at 04:48:30 PM EST
    I have sent my love for TL in the form of electronically transmitted representation of legal tender.  Keep up the awesome work!

    I love this site. (5.00 / 1) (#18)
    by vicsan on Mon May 05, 2008 at 04:50:07 PM EST
    I'm so glad I found you!

    Thank you (5.00 / 2) (#19)
    by Marvin42 on Mon May 05, 2008 at 04:58:32 PM EST
    Appreciation sent via the intertubes...keep up the great site!

    Appreciation sent via PayPal (5.00 / 1) (#20)
    by Lysis on Mon May 05, 2008 at 05:02:17 PM EST
    And I'll continue to send in little bits, as I can afford to.  TalkLeft can be my other Hillary!

    I love this site, (5.00 / 3) (#21)
    by Mrwirez on Mon May 05, 2008 at 05:03:32 PM EST
    It is the most "fair and balanced", left leaning blog I have found on the net ;-) .....I can kick you $10, Hillary has cleaned out all my extra cash !!

    Token of my appreciation (5.00 / 2) (#22)
    by suisser on Mon May 05, 2008 at 05:25:15 PM EST
    on the way via snail mail.  No doubt, I would have lost my mind these last months without the light of Talk Left.
    Thank you Jeralyn.

    Thank you (5.00 / 2) (#23)
    by mjames on Mon May 05, 2008 at 05:29:54 PM EST
    For a voice of reason to keep me sane!

    You have been great. (5.00 / 1) (#25)
    by pie on Mon May 05, 2008 at 05:37:43 PM EST
    Wish I'd come here sooner.  But I'm also giving available monies to Clinton right now.

    You will be rewarded, however.  Thank you.

    Thank you, Jeralyn (5.00 / 2) (#26)
    by eleanora on Mon May 05, 2008 at 05:37:43 PM EST
    for giving us such a nice, calm place to talk about the world. Donated via Amazon, thanks for having that option available :)

    Thank you for all your work (5.00 / 2) (#27)
    by Nadai on Mon May 05, 2008 at 05:38:14 PM EST
    And thanks for offering Amazon as an option; I didn't realize they offered that service.

    I just got my $600.00! (5.00 / 2) (#28)
    by Burned on Mon May 05, 2008 at 05:44:55 PM EST
    It's going to be a lot fun spreading it around the left.
    Thank you.

    I'm waiting for my PayPal password... (5.00 / 1) (#29)
    by Shainzona on Mon May 05, 2008 at 05:45:19 PM EST
    to be re-sent and then "I'm in!"

    Thank you both! (5.00 / 1) (#30)
    by cymro on Mon May 05, 2008 at 05:53:50 PM EST
    I know you have had to put in a lot more time to keep up. With all the increased traffic, that 200 comment goal means many more threads per day. Thank you for keeping them interesting.

    Thank you Thank you! (5.00 / 1) (#31)
    by bjorn on Mon May 05, 2008 at 05:56:07 PM EST

    I can't send Hillary any more money (5.00 / 2) (#32)
    by Democratic Cat on Mon May 05, 2008 at 05:58:39 PM EST
    So I'll send some to you.  You run a fabulous site.

    longtime lurker and affid reader (5.00 / 2) (#33)
    by BellinKY on Mon May 05, 2008 at 05:59:36 PM EST
    just got the nerve to get signed up and to post here. Sorry that I can't give money right now because what ever I can spare goes to Mrs. Clinton who I greatly admire. Also sorry to say that I cannot vote since I am a "resident alien" on a greencard for the last twenty something years. But that does not stop me from making my preferance known. So thank you for this sane and rational side (along with Taylor Marsh and No Quarter, or Riverdaughter). I truly appreciate you all!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Tell us your take. (5.00 / 2) (#34)
    by nellre on Mon May 05, 2008 at 06:00:52 PM EST
    If it's not enough I'll give more.

    Thanks!! (5.00 / 1) (#35)
    by gmo on Mon May 05, 2008 at 06:01:00 PM EST
    Really appreciate your blog and all the work you do!!

    never going back (5.00 / 2) (#36)
    by isaac on Mon May 05, 2008 at 06:12:52 PM EST
    thanks for everything

    uft member, veteran, and proud hillary supporter

    You'll have my check by the end of the week (5.00 / 1) (#37)
    by shoephone on Mon May 05, 2008 at 06:27:43 PM EST
    This place is a respite from the insanity.

    Appreciated (5.00 / 1) (#38)
    by jen on Mon May 05, 2008 at 06:33:44 PM EST
    more than I can say. Not a ton but sent what I could for now.

    Quality is something (5.00 / 4) (#39)
    by Arcadianwind on Mon May 05, 2008 at 06:41:34 PM EST
    hard to come by these days. Many have forgotten what it is perhaps. But you guys have not. It is indeed a pleasure to find here, the most informed and reasoned discussion around!

    Thanks, and all the best for the future!

    Thanks... (5.00 / 1) (#41)
    by mrjerbub on Mon May 05, 2008 at 06:58:32 PM EST
    For providing a place where an old man can get a word in edgewise.

    Thanks Jeralyn and BTD (5.00 / 1) (#42)
    by miguelito on Mon May 05, 2008 at 07:01:30 PM EST
    I sent what I could via paypal, you guys keep up the great work!

    Jeralyn and BTD, you guys have been my ROCK. (5.00 / 3) (#45)
    by rooge04 on Mon May 05, 2008 at 07:09:51 PM EST
    During this primary season and I'll never leave!!

    Appreciation sent!

    And sending a little bit of my..... (5.00 / 1) (#46)
    by Maria Garcia on Mon May 05, 2008 at 07:10:28 PM EST
    stimulus check your way!

    Jeralyn and BTD. . . (5.00 / 1) (#47)
    by bslev22 on Mon May 05, 2008 at 07:11:55 PM EST
    You folks rock.

    Just made my donation (5.00 / 1) (#49)
    by txpolitico67 on Mon May 05, 2008 at 07:25:14 PM EST
    Hope it helps!  Thanks for the forum!

    A Huge Thanks! (5.00 / 3) (#50)
    by Tess on Mon May 05, 2008 at 07:25:45 PM EST
    I've never posted here...but, hoped there would be an opportunity to thank you for such a fabulous site...Talk Left has become the one and only political blog that I dare read several times a day!  I can no longer stomach the others....

    Those who post here make me laugh and sometimes cry...what a great group!

    Cheers to Talk Left for being my shelter from the storms!

    A big thank you (5.00 / 4) (#52)
    by vigkat on Mon May 05, 2008 at 07:28:12 PM EST
    For being here.  You'll be receiving my contribution via snail mail.  It could never be enough to sufficiently convey my deep appreciation for all you do to insure that this blog is as intelligent, vibrant, entertaining and elevated as it is.  I'm glad I found you; it saved my sanity.

    that goes for me, too (5.00 / 2) (#53)
    by txpolitico67 on Mon May 05, 2008 at 07:29:29 PM EST
    but it applies to americablog, daily kos, the huffington post, msnbc, talking points memo....

    Everytime one of these blogs launches an attack I go directly to hillaryclinton.com and make a $10 donation.

    Thanks to them I have donated a nice little amount to my candidate.

    Talk Left provides balance.  

    Gawd.A real safe haven-Thanks (5.00 / 5) (#55)
    by BarnBabe on Mon May 05, 2008 at 07:38:48 PM EST
    You stopped the insanity. Appreciated.  

    Glad to contribute (5.00 / 1) (#56)
    by sonya on Mon May 05, 2008 at 07:48:43 PM EST
    Thanks for all you do!

    TalkLeft Amazon link please? (5.00 / 1) (#58)
    by Ellie on Mon May 05, 2008 at 07:50:36 PM EST
    Thanks, Jeralyn, BTD and The Third Tenor!

    Just when I thought I was out (of reading poliblogs generally), the poll crunching and primary process pulled me back in. It's never where I've contributed to campaigns in the past -- not my metier -- but it's become my "stories".

    You deserve danger pay for the troll patrol alone, dental at the very least.

    (Also, I used the Amazon link last time but didn't see it up.)

    Amazon is (5.00 / 2) (#59)
    by Jeralyn on Mon May 05, 2008 at 07:55:26 PM EST
    here. Thank you!

    If I may (5.00 / 1) (#60)
    by txpolitico67 on Mon May 05, 2008 at 07:57:08 PM EST
    I've seen and read attacks on other blogs.  Jeralyn is far from attacking Obama.  She defends him and doesn't allow anyone to call him names or be aggressively disparaging.

    If a spirited dialogue is considered attacks, that stmt lends credence to my arguement that BHO supporters are a little thin-skinned.

    Jeralyn CERTAINLY doesn't need me to defend her. She's an attorney and can certainly articulate her position(s).  I for one haven't seen "attacks" on this blog like say, Daily Kos.

    Donations should be made without condition.  Your comments don't seem trollish.  But to make that kind of accusation, you may want to start doing some linking and referencing.

    I know I'm not supposed to respond to this post... (5.00 / 2) (#64)
    by reynwrap582 on Mon May 05, 2008 at 08:06:31 PM EST
    But in your honor, I'll be donating another $20 when I get paid (probably tomorrow).


    Done (5.00 / 1) (#65)
    by angie on Mon May 05, 2008 at 08:16:39 PM EST
    a small token of my appreciation -- I would like to give more next Monday if it is enabled then.

    The links are always good (5.00 / 1) (#66)
    by Jeralyn on Mon May 05, 2008 at 08:21:24 PM EST
    and the buttons are on the right side of talkleft all the time. Thank you!

    I'm in n/t (5.00 / 1) (#68)
    by Coldblue on Mon May 05, 2008 at 08:29:28 PM EST

    KUSA rewards the forum in which (5.00 / 5) (#73)
    by Kathy on Mon May 05, 2008 at 08:55:04 PM EST
    its brilliant insight is given an opportunity to shine.

    (haha, I sound like royalty!)

    Y'all, I stumbled over here a few months ago when a friend gave me the link.  I kept sending him crap from HuffPo and others with big ol' "WTFing F?!?!" headlines; such was my outrage.  I was appalled by the outright misogyny and Clinton hatred and complete and total denial of the Clinton era as anything good and wonderful.  As a woman, I was so excited when Clinton announced, and ready to roll in the happiness and excitement and solidarity like a pig in poo.  It was not to be.

    And, then, I came here, and I felt like I could finally express my love for all things Clinton.  Y'all remember what it was like after 9-11, when admitting you were a dem was like admitting you were a pedophile?  That's how HuffPo and others made me feel about being a Clinton supporter-like it was bad, like it meant I was stupid or racist or any number of horrible things.

    Anyway, I've rambled on, but lots of folks have used the words "sanity" and "TL" together, and that's exactly how I feel.

    (scrounges betweeen sofa cushions) (5.00 / 1) (#74)
    by rghojai on Mon May 05, 2008 at 08:59:47 PM EST
    Ah, there's a few coins. Okay, where's my pony? No tote bag? No "Donate _ and you get dinner with Jeralyn?" Not to be ungentlemanly, but y'all could make luxe bucks with that option.... Dinner with BTD? Hard to say....

    I do have a few tote bags left (5.00 / 1) (#79)
    by Jeralyn on Mon May 05, 2008 at 09:13:50 PM EST
    email me your mailing address and I'll send you one.

    Who knew?! (none / 0) (#90)
    by rghojai on Tue May 06, 2008 at 01:36:55 AM EST
    I had no idea about the tote bags. Was just being silly, remembering the PBS "When you donate _, you get _."

    Who knows, maybe that'd motivate some folks? "We have some lovely TalkLeft tote bags... ."

    No need to send one, though I appreciate the offer. I've plenty and I'm probably moving to Saudi Arabia,  dunno that it'd go over so well in those parts. No telling what they'd make of my Oscar De La Hoya vs. Floyd Mayweather tote bag....


    The TL Tote Bag (5.00 / 1) (#80)
    by squeaky on Mon May 05, 2008 at 09:15:51 PM EST
    Is Awesome. 4th Amendment...

    What happened to that item? Haven't seen it for a while. Hope it hasn't been discontinued.


    No, i just removed (5.00 / 1) (#82)
    by Jeralyn on Mon May 05, 2008 at 09:33:14 PM EST
    the link, when I removed the wish list. I guess I should put them back.

    please do! (none / 0) (#89)
    by LHinSeattle on Tue May 06, 2008 at 01:23:15 AM EST
    Yes (none / 0) (#98)
    by squeaky on Tue May 06, 2008 at 11:15:15 AM EST
    The TL tote bags are really nice. They make great gifts as well.  

    This is a terrific site... (5.00 / 1) (#75)
    by dianem on Mon May 05, 2008 at 09:01:09 PM EST
    ... and I appreciate how you provide a forum in which intelligent people can discuss a variety of issues without having to deal with trolls. Thanks. I wish I could give you an amount that was truly commensurate with your worth, but I hope I paid my way for the month. Anyway, I now know my husbands Paypal login so I'm going to go have some fun. <g>

    Appreciation (5.00 / 1) (#77)
    by TeresaInSnow2 on Mon May 05, 2008 at 09:05:21 PM EST
    The famous TV personality and committed defense attorney who actually talks to me personally!


    The brilliant but gruff ;-) man from Puerto Rico with the soft side he occasionally shares (e.g. he likes Ratatouille!)

    make for a blog made in heaven for Hillary supporters who want a place on the net.

    You're very much appreciated.

    I'll be sending a little something via the "anony-mouse". (Amazon, don't want a paypal account).  

    I like this post (5.00 / 1) (#78)
    by TeresaInSnow2 on Mon May 05, 2008 at 09:07:13 PM EST
    Thanks very much BTD.

    Thank you (5.00 / 1) (#81)
    by Jane in CA on Mon May 05, 2008 at 09:28:47 PM EST
    so much, Jeralyn and BTD.  I was feeling like Diogenes, searching, not so much for an honest man, as someone -- anyone!  -- who could explain to me why they were voting for Obama.  My only conditions were 1) Hillary could not be mentioned in any way as part of the reason; and 2) any sweeping generalizations -- Change! Hope! Unity! -- must be explained in an  appropropriately policy wonkish manner, that is attached the policy(ies) that would lead to such change.

    I asked this question throughout the cyberworld for several months to no avail.  In fact, I was pretty beat up by the time I stumbled in here.  This has been a safe and lovely harbor for me, and I am happy to add my small contribution.  As others have stated, I am currently giving lots of money to Hillary, but there will be more for talkleft in the future, I promise.

    Never change!  Any of you, um, well, hardly any of you :)

    Thank you (none / 0) (#83)
    by MichaelGale on Mon May 05, 2008 at 09:43:26 PM EST
    Thank you Jeralyn and BTD too.

    I join all in sincere appreciation for the site.  

    Glad to contribute

    I am grateful (none / 0) (#84)
    by Leisa on Mon May 05, 2008 at 09:49:20 PM EST
    to have a place to come to that is not intense and  angry.  There are few places I can go where I feel that I can get unfiltered information and enjoy intelligent and forthcoming opinions form other people that share my concerns.

    Talk Left has become a sanctuary for me.  You are providing such a valuable service and are true patriots!

    Thanks for being here!  You are like a life raft after being cast away from the cyberspace shipwrecks that think they are progressive blogs.

    Finally! (none / 0) (#85)
    by Shainzona on Mon May 05, 2008 at 10:08:33 PM EST

    So glad to find some sanity and decorum these past couple of months.

    Thanks a Bunch Folks (none / 0) (#86)
    by cdalygo on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:09:53 PM EST
    I threw something in for tonight. Tomorrow after primaries, I'll do a reassessment to see if I can do more.

    You folks have been a god send in this election cycle. Thanks SO MUCH.

    I also plan on staying put after the election. Your other posts are equally as interesting. Plus it's nice to have adult conversation on a blog that features both sides of Demo election this year.

    I wish the public radio station (none / 0) (#87)
    by akaEloise on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:32:15 PM EST
    for which I used to work, which is currently annoying many of you good people with requests for money, would ever think to add something as gracious as

    If you're short of funds, don't give it another thought, we'll get by

    to its pitches.

    Thanks, Jeralyn and BTD, and when I'm able I will make my appreciation known in a more concrete manner.

    TalkLeft has done a terrific job (none / 0) (#92)
    by Prabhata on Tue May 06, 2008 at 02:43:14 AM EST
    You deserve our support.  Thanks!

    Snail Mail is just (none / 0) (#94)
    by zfran on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:01:52 AM EST
    about in the mailbox. Thank you so much for the sanity of your website, where the "art" of conversation is still alive and well. I'm ever so grateful and glad I found you.  

    Thank you. (none / 0) (#95)
    by wurman on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:26:14 AM EST
    Chump change sent via Amazon.

    The troll control patrol is vastly commended.

    And thanks, too, for Big Tent's occasional forays to clean up a thread & smite the insults, name calling & concern trolls that appear to drop in at strange times with cute names & courteous but stupid comments.

    Also, it has become evident to me that limiting (almost eliminating) the cursing (I'm a true potty-mouth in the real world) is a very good, most excellent idea.  An effort to stay civil keeps the comments more focused.

    Thanks for a class & classy act.

    Thank you for helping me keep my sanity (none / 0) (#96)
    by esmense on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:46:03 AM EST
    during this wild primary season.

    I've been reading TL for years, (none / 0) (#97)
    by Lil on Tue May 06, 2008 at 09:07:03 AM EST
    but only started commenting a couple of months ago. I haven's clicked to Kos, et. al. since.  I just sent some change on Sunday morning, when I was feeling particularly grateful. Today I want to send some more change, because I've enjoyed reading the comments in this thread, and identified with much of it. It is a bargain. The rest goes to Hillary for now. Thanks again.

    Thank you (none / 0) (#99)
    by DJ on Tue May 06, 2008 at 11:27:53 AM EST
    I would have lost my mind if I did not find TL during this primary.

    Done (none / 0) (#100)
    by barryluda on Tue May 06, 2008 at 11:53:10 AM EST
    It was also teachers' appreciation today at my son's school.  So after dropping off some blintzes in the teacher's lounge, and giving a few of his teachers some personal notes and gifts, it seems appropriate to also show my appreciation for where my mind continues to get stimulated.

    Thanks Jeralyn, BTD and everyone else in the conversation.  I appreciate you all.