Guam Caucuses
Posted on Sat May 03, 2008 at 07:20:00 PM EST
Tags: Guam (all tags)
Bump and Update(TL): Hillary won Dededo 509 to 313, getting 61% of the vote. As Big Tent says below, that gives Obama a 7 vote win out of 4521 votes. It's Obama 50.1% to Hillary 49.9%.
There will be a recount due to about 500 ballots being "spoiled."
Update (BTD): It has been reported that unofficial initial results have Obama winning the Guam caucus by 7 votes, 2264-2257. I assume a recount may be in order though the delegate split is set. I doubt a 7 vote differential is going to sway the Guam superdelegates.
Update (TL): Still waiting on Dededo. Here's a chart with the caucus results so far. Obama's lead is down to 52.7 % . (7:06 am Guam time.)
While we're waiting, I just checked to see where Obama's Guam office is. It's in Hagåtña , "the island's second smallest village in both area and population" . It's where the government seat is. Dededo's 46,000 residents include 17,000 Chamorros and 24,000 Filipinos. Farming is making a comeback there. There is a university and it has a student group for Obama on his website but it only has 28 members. {More...]
Here is Hillary's Guam page. It has much more substance than Obama's.
Update (TL): Only Dededo is left. Agat is in, Hillary won it. Obama's ahead by 204 votes. (6:30 am Guam time)
Lujan/Paulino are handily winning the race for party chair/vice chair which makes them superdelegates. As said below, Lujan is undeclared while Paulino is for Obama. As to the other three superdelegates, Guam will have three other superdelegates:
Committee Woman Taling Taitano, who said she's committed to Clinton; Delegate Madeleine Bordallo, who is undeclared; and the committee man position, which will be filled by appointment. Both candidates up for consideration, Sen. Benjamin Cruz and attorney Mike Phillips, are Obama supporters.
Update (TL): Yona is now in. 2 Districts to go, Dededo (the big one) and Agat. Obama is up by 217 votes with 53%.(6:25 am Guam Time)
Update (TL): 18 of 21 districts now in and Obama has 53.3% of the vote. Dededo is still out. (5:40 am Guam time). This account says the final three could change the outcome. Obama leads by 211 votes.
Dededo is huge compared to the rest of the towns. It has 40,000 plus residents. I wonder if they will all get counted today.
16 of 21 districts now in, Obama still ahead but Dededo and Yigo, two of the largest districts are still out. (5:05 am Guam time)
Update (TL): 2/3 of vote in, it's Obama by 7. Hillary just one a district by a single vote. Obama won another by 3.
Guam is holding caucuses as we speak. With a little over half counted, apparently it is 53-47 Obama. Guam has 8 half-delegates and 5 superdelegates. These caucuses determine the split of the 8 half delegates. It looks like it will be an equal split.
3000 American citizens in Guam are expected to vote. Thus, the effect on the popular vote count will be minimal. Yet again, the absurdity of the Democratic delegate system is exposed. Guam will send 9 delegates to the Democratic convention. Right now, Florida and Michigan, and its 2.3 million voters who voted in their primaries, will send NONE. What a ridiculous political party we Dems have.
By Big Tent Democrat
Update (TL): Hillary may do better with the superdelegates in Guam who are treated as whole delegates (pledged delegates are only considered half delegates):
Arlene Bordallo, who is running for vice-chair of the Democratic Party of Guam, and also running for a delegate seat showing her pledged support for Senator Clinton. Her running mate for chairman of the party is Joseph Cameron, who has also publicly announced his support for Clinton. Then you have Taling Taitano, running for national committeewoman - she is actually the state advisor for Senator Clinton's campaign on Guam.So theoretically if they win their party officer elections tonight, that would mean mathematically Clinton would have three guaranteed superdelegate votes.
But, according to the first link above:
Meanwhile, the race for Party Chair and Vice-Chair isn’t as close as the delegates’. With over half of the counting done the team of Pillar Lujan and Jaime Paulino is leading the three teams with 48 percent of the vote.
Pillar Lujan is uncommitted but her running-mate Paulino has endorsed Obama.
Update: Comments now closed. There's a new and open thread here.
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