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Wow (5.00 / 1) (#1)
by AnninCA on Sat May 03, 2008 at 12:18:59 PM EST
Guam is Obama?

I figured it for Hillary.

My "bad."

And, Hillary was the one (5.00 / 2) (#6)
by JavaCityPal on Sat May 03, 2008 at 12:23:42 PM EST
pushing for them to actually get to vote in the GE.  

They are voting in caucus, though. I've lost all trust in that particular system.  

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Amen. If I Never Hear The Word Caucus (5.00 / 3) (#51)
by PssttCmere08 on Sat May 03, 2008 at 12:55:25 PM EST
again, it will be too soon!  They are, for all intents and purposes, a bit of a joke.

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Caucuses are (5.00 / 2) (#60)
by AnninCA on Sat May 03, 2008 at 01:04:59 PM EST
cheaper.  They dominate in states that are Red.  These states simply cannot raise the money to have primaries.

Even looking at the "buy-off" from the PACS to super-delegates from BOTH Obama and Hillary tells the story.

Some of those donations were $2500 or less.  

That tells the story.

So we're not going to be "rid" of caucuses.

Now, I'd argue to my last breath that Iowa caucuses should not be in the first 4, setting the tone.  And, just for the record?  I went to school in Iowa and love the state.  But that is nuts to give them power.

Frankly, what has yet to be really discussed is just WHY Florida and Michigan went after the DNC over that issue.

I personally think they are right.  The DNC is wrong.

Just my 2 cents.  Iowa has a horrible record.  They usually don't end up even voting for their caucus winner.

They need to be axed.

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The Repub caucus in Iowa was (5.00 / 2) (#106)
by Joan in VA on Sat May 03, 2008 at 03:34:11 PM EST
by secret ballot. How do they do that and why can't we? Blunts the intimidation factor but how would it be called consensus voting? The biggest diff in cost is no machines and votes counted by party rather than BoE. Or is there some cost I'm missing?

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Thoroughly agree about IA. (none / 0) (#71)
by magisterludi on Sat May 03, 2008 at 01:28:39 PM EST
Too much influence.

Off topic a bit, but, as a child watching the news of the primaries, i always remember thinking how everybody must feel so sorry for New Hampshire, it was so-oo little everyone let it go first just to be nice.

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Dominate? (none / 0) (#211)
by JavaCityPal on Sat May 03, 2008 at 07:27:38 PM EST
I don't know how many red states are caucus states.  My very blue state of Washington has always been a caucus state...until this year where we did both. The democrats took the caucus results, but we still had a primary vote several weeks after the caucuses. The Republicans used the vote counts.  I'm hoping we've seen the last of the caucuses here.

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Apparently (none / 0) (#10)
by Just another person on Sat May 03, 2008 at 12:31:09 PM EST
Obama had three people on the ground campaigning for him. I guess Hillary's finances didn't allow for that :-/. Sometimes it's money that talks.

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That's silly (none / 0) (#11)
by AnninCA on Sat May 03, 2008 at 12:32:22 PM EST
talk.

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they cling to not having the vote (none / 0) (#28)
by Stellaaa on Sat May 03, 2008 at 12:40:46 PM EST


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What would it do to one's self esteem (5.00 / 1) (#58)
by oculus on Sat May 03, 2008 at 01:04:05 PM EST
ot be elected a "half-delegate"?

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And what about your "better half"? (none / 0) (#70)
by TeresaInSnow2 on Sat May 03, 2008 at 01:27:59 PM EST
(your spouse) Do they now become your "better fourth?" because you're a half?

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Its a caucus in name only, I think (none / 0) (#125)
by ding7777 on Sat May 03, 2008 at 03:57:15 PM EST
The caucus differs little from a primary because voters can cast ballots all day at polling stations. The election is run by the Democratic Party, which means that voters don't have to be registered with the local election commission.



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Hmmmm (none / 0) (#214)
by JavaCityPal on Sat May 03, 2008 at 07:32:24 PM EST
doesn't each state set their own rules for how to?  I heard terrible things about the way the Texas caucuses went, and that some in Washington state were questionable. I just know they are very hard to get to, and only a fraction of the people who normally vote ever attend.

Mail-in ballots allow all registered voters the easiest opportunity to vote.  

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Heh (none / 0) (#4)
by Big Tent Democrat on Sat May 03, 2008 at 12:20:33 PM EST
I was waiting for Zogby to tell me.

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Well, their closest neighboring state IS HA, (none / 0) (#9)
by jawbone on Sat May 03, 2008 at 12:28:50 PM EST
so there'e the favorite son factor...?

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Yes, I read that is significant for him (nt) (none / 0) (#22)
by Cream City on Sat May 03, 2008 at 12:37:47 PM EST


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He was supposed to win there (none / 0) (#30)
by eleanora on Sat May 03, 2008 at 12:41:37 PM EST
according to his spreadsheet, IIRC. The big news will be if he wins by enough to get the add-on delegate, otherwise it'll be a wash at 2-2 all.

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Obama spreadsheet was 0 55% to C 44% (5.00 / 1) (#204)
by jawbone on Sat May 03, 2008 at 06:47:21 PM EST
From Politico link -- there may be a better presentation of the spreadsheet.

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I heard some talking head say (none / 0) (#69)
by ruffian on Sat May 03, 2008 at 01:25:56 PM EST
it would be a blowout for Obama.  Not sure if it is a big enough deal for"the expectations game" to matter, but if so Clinton can have a little bit of joy here.

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If you (none / 0) (#171)
by facta non verba on Sat May 03, 2008 at 05:19:38 PM EST
read Guam's Pacific Daily News, many in Guam view Obama as a "favorite son." The whole he was born in Hawaii sort of thing.

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That Didn't Come Across In The Results (none / 0) (#210)
by PssttCmere08 on Sat May 03, 2008 at 07:20:44 PM EST
maybe his campaign has been wounded worse than we thought...when the "native son" only wins by 7 votes, what does this tell us?

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