They take their children to this church to listen to these hate messages.

This is what is going to damage Obama.  He can say that he doesn't buy into the message of TUCC all he wants to -- that he stays in the church because of its tradition of public service, etc -- and some people might buy it.

1. I didn't know
   
2. Wright is retiring
   
3. the Church isn't really like Wright, its like that nice new pastor who is going to replace him.

I found it repulsive. If I DEFENDED it then I would have to exonerate myself.

I don't recall seeing anything about Libermann speaking for Hagee, but Trinity Church gets a post why? because it was offensive? does that mean we will expect other offensive churches to get a post? for some reason I highly doubt it, so why Trinty? because its a news item and why is that? oh yes its Obama's curch. but does this any anything to do with Obama? espeically on Talk Left, need we go back and review the opinions of Obama in the comment section of this board? but yes we will post about trinty and simply say its nothing to do with Obama, will that work?

Usually we just see it on the internet, not at the pulpit in front of a live audience, streamed live, masquerading as a religious sermon.

still nothing...........

.....for the one who says, "Well don't hold me responsible for what my ancestors did." But you have enjoyed the benefits of what your ancestors did, and unless you are ready to give up the benefits, throw away your 401 fund, throw away your trust fund, throw away all the money that's been put away in the company you walked into because your daddy and your granddaddy and your great granddaddy...unless you're willing to give up the benefits, then you must be responsible for what was done in your generation because you are the beneficiary of this insurance policy.

We must be honest enough, to expose white entitlement and supremacy wherever it raises it's head.

I said before, and I, I really don't want to make this political because you know, I'm very unpolitical (crowd laughs and claps) but, (something I can't make out) when Hillary was crying, and people said that was put on, I really don't believe it was put on, I really believe that she just always thought, "This is mine. I'm Bill's wife, I'm white, and this is mine. I just got to get up and step into the plate."

And then out of nowhere came, " Hey, I'm Barack Obama." And she said, "Oh, damn! Where did you come from?! I'm white, I'm entitled! There's a black man stealing my show!"

(then he does fake Hillary tears and wipes his tears with a kerchief, crowd stands, clapping, he goes ends it with....)

She wasn't the only one crying, there were a whole lot of white people crying. I'm sorry, I don't want to get you into anymore trouble. The live streaming just went out again.

You can try to turn me into a racist for asking the question, if that's what works for you, and I suppose that's one way to ignore what looks to me like a growing racial divide in this country - one that has been growing precisely because of sermons like Pfleger's.

I asked the question because I saw a lot of people clapping and cheering in that church - applauding some truly ugly comments and characterizations of Hillary Clinton, with emphasis on the color of her skin.  So - is it not fair to ask whether that message resonates with black voters?  Or with any voters?