Details Announced for May 31 Meeting on FL-MI Delegates

By Jeralyn, Section Elections 2008
Posted on Wed May 21, 2008 at 04:23:30 PM EST
Tags: Florida '08, Michigan '08 (all tags)

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The Rules and Bylaws Committee of the DNC today announced how it will proceed at the May 31 hearing at the Marriott Wardman Park Hotel. It's open to the public, but you must pre-register.

[T]he rules committee will meet at a Washington area hotel and consider two challenges – including one from Jon Ausman, a national committeeman from Florida.

The advisory says, “each challenger (including Ausman) will be entitled to present an Oral Argument before the RBC prior to Committee consideration for a period of 15 minutes each.”

“A representative from each state party and from each presidential campaign will also have an opportunity to address the committee regarding each of the challenges,” the notice explains.

The arguments will be in the morning and the Committee will deliberate after lunch. You can register on-line starting at 10 a.m. on Tuesday (May 27.) [More...]

One more rule: You can't bring "banners, posters, signs, handouts, and noisemakers of any kind."

As for whether Hillary will stay in the race after June, the AP reports Hillary said she is willing to take the fight for Florida and Michigan's votes to count to the convention:

Hillary Rodham Clinton says she is willing to take her fight to seat Florida and Michigan delegates to the convention if the two states want to go that far. In an interview with The Associated Press, Clinton was asked whether she would support the states if they continue the fight. The presidential candidate said Wednesday, "Yes I will. I will, because I feel very strongly about this."

I'm not sure that's a statement that she will stay in the race while she continues to fight for their votes to count, but some are interpreting it that way.

From a later article here's her statement:

Asked if she now envisioned the race extending beyond June 3, Clinton replied: "It could, I hope it doesn't. I hope it's resolved to everyone's satisfaction by that date, because that's what people are expecting, but we'll have to see what happens."

More on Hillary's speech today in Florida here.

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Will it be teleivsed? (5.00 / 3) (#1)
by Big Tent Democrat on Wed May 21, 2008 at 04:25:25 PM EST

It is ESSENTIAL that it be aired publically on TELEVISION. C- Span will no doubt love to cover it.

I think that is a critical question.

It absolutely must be televised. We have got to (5.00 / 1) (#2)
by Angel on Wed May 21, 2008 at 04:28:11 PM EST

know what is said, who says it, what is done, etc. To not televise would just makes things worse because it would appear to be a "backroom deal."


: Will there be any (none / 0) (#6)
by mg7505 on Wed May 21, 2008 at 04:30:50 PM EST

transcript or coverage of the Committee's deliberations? That is the part we need to see the most. Regardless, I think all the arm-twisting will be done beforehand and they may have made up their minds already.

Highest ratings ever. Promise. (5.00 / 1) (#3)
by Angel on Wed May 21, 2008 at 04:28:38 PM EST

Heh (5.00 / 4) (#5)
by Steve M on Wed May 21, 2008 at 04:29:39 PM EST

I suspect this will be a typical Open Meetings Act sort of sham. There's no way they haven't worked this out offline one way or another.


Run the sham on TV (5.00 / 13) (#7)
by Big Tent Democrat on Wed May 21, 2008 at 04:31:25 PM EST

I want to see them say they do not care about the voters of Florida.

I want to hear Donna Brazile say it.

I eant to see if Barack Obama will be there to say it.

I also recommend that Hillary Clinton herself be there and to argue the case herself.

That will insure coverage.


What a GREAT idea, BTD! (5.00 / 1) (#12)
by vicsan on Wed May 21, 2008 at 04:40:08 PM EST

Hillary really should be the one arguing this case! She is an attorney after all. I would be VERY impressed if she took this on herself.


: With BTD as second chair, (none / 0) (#66)
by oculus on Wed May 21, 2008 at 08:05:48 PM EST

just in case she goes off topic.

Ironic on so many levels (5.00 / 1) (#20)
by ghost2 on Wed May 21, 2008 at 04:54:39 PM EST

On the 100th anniversary of women earning the right to cast a ballot, in the year that the democrats want to make history by electing the first AA or the first woman president, isn't it deeply ironic to disenfranchise 2.5 million people?


Which Anniversary Are You Referring To? (none / 0) (#30)
by daring grace on Wed May 21, 2008 at 05:10:57 PM EST

The 19th amendment to the U.S. constitution granting women the right to vote was ratified on August 26, 1920, almost 88 years ago.

AMENDMENT XIX

The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex.
Congress shall have power to enforce this Article by appropriate legislation.

That's true. (none / 0) (#71)
by ghost2 on Wed May 21, 2008 at 09:52:31 PM EST

I got my facts mixed. sorry.

The point stands.


: No Need To Apologize (none / 0) (#76)
by daring grace on Thu May 22, 2008 at 10:24:31 AM EST

There were many different occasions prior to national female suffrage occurring when women were granted suffrage in the states--and perhaps even in localities.
I asked because I thought you might be referring to one of those.

Wow (none / 0) (#11)
by Steve M on Wed May 21, 2008 at 04:36:56 PM EST

That's a bit fatalistic!


I have confidence in (5.00 / 8) (#13)
by Big Tent Democrat on Wed May 21, 2008 at 04:40:53 PM EST

Donna Brazile's incompetence.


: my understanding is that she's not part of it (5.00 / 1) (#15)
by diplomatic on Wed May 21, 2008 at 04:45:12 PM EST

Donna is no longer going to be part of the meeting on May 31st, right?
I was thinking about Michigan a lot this morning... Chances are that McCain will choose Romney for VP (economic background)
Mitt Romney can help McCain carry Michigan, especially if the Democratic Party wants to pretend they don't exist.

: same here (5.00 / 2) (#17)
by txpolitico67 on Wed May 21, 2008 at 04:49:58 PM EST

that woman is a huge detriment to the Democratic cause.
she's the one who ran the Gore campaign into the ground, no surprise she's ready to take down the whole Democratic party with her.
And what's more f'd up, is that the Dem leadership gladly sit back and watch. the MINUTE she uttered those words on CNN about rural/blue collar white and latino voters Dean should have come out and REBUTTED those words.
The "RULZ" will be the iceburg that sinks S.S. DNC.

Given the historic (none / 0) (#26)
by americanincanada on Wed May 21, 2008 at 05:01:42 PM EST

anniversary for women that is being celebrated during that time frame, it would be amazing if Hillary argued the point herself.

I also be the RBC would never see that one coming!


: Uh, which time frame would that be? (none / 0) (#53)
by Cream City on Wed May 21, 2008 at 06:56:59 PM EST

I know women's history, and some blog or other must be getting some info wrong, as it seems to be spreading.
Now, women made history in 1908, as they have done every year. (And they undoubtedly made history on some May 31st or another, as they make history every day.) But if you are referring to the "century of struggle" for suffrage, 1908 was in the decade that suffragists called "the doldrums," because almost nothing was won.
Then again, we live and learn -- so please do tell to which time frame and event you refer?

BTD, seconded---that is a great idea (none / 0) (#51)
by lookoverthere on Wed May 21, 2008 at 06:48:29 PM EST

If there is WiFi and my schedule works (5.00 / 6) (#16)
by andgarden on Wed May 21, 2008 at 04:48:29 PM EST

I will register and go myself.


Do that (5.00 / 4) (#18)
by Big Tent Democrat on Wed May 21, 2008 at 04:50:49 PM EST

and I will let you live blog on my account if J agrees.


Looks like it should be possible (5.00 / 1) (#21)
by andgarden on Wed May 21, 2008 at 04:55:51 PM EST

The hotel does have WiFi in the meeting areas, so I'll just have to see if I can get myself there and they have it activated.

Not sure I would really add anything to C-SPAN, except maybe if I can hear Donna's whispers or something.


: Hard to imagine you volunteering (none / 0) (#40)
by oculus on Wed May 21, 2008 at 05:46:24 PM EST

to endure a speech from a representative of each and every state.

: andgarden, if you do, I will send you (none / 0) (#52)
by lookoverthere on Wed May 21, 2008 at 06:49:51 PM EST

lunch money. Seriously.
Just don't expect to eat anywhere with real silverware.

: If you get a really good digital recorder (none / 0) (#63)
by TeresaInSnow2 on Wed May 21, 2008 at 07:49:19 PM EST

and point it right at Donna, you may be able to pick things up.
I am always amazed at the residual voices that mine picks up.

Change of venue? (none / 0) (#72)
by MichaelGale on Wed May 21, 2008 at 09:54:39 PM EST

I plan on attending the rally with Count the Votes, FDR and Clinton Supporters Count too which was supposed to be at the DNC in Wash DC on the 30th and 31st. However, the meeting is now scheduled to be at the Marriott Wardman which is in the residential part of the city and on 16 acres of land. And....there are no reservations available the 30th and the 31st.

Wonder if the rally can even get close to the action?

Hmmmmmmm


Oh yeah. It will be televised. (5.00 / 3) (#10)
by vicsan on Wed May 21, 2008 at 04:36:38 PM EST

Donna Brazille said all of their meetings are open to the public. The MSM will be there for sure. It will be on TeeVee. Their decision will change this election in a HUGE way.

I know I'm not making plans for that day and I've got my popcorn ready!


I am sure it has been predetermined and thats (5.00 / 2) (#8)
by athyrio on Wed May 21, 2008 at 04:31:33 PM EST

why Hillary is going to the convention....IMO

Yup. There is no way the outcome (none / 0) (#25)
by nycstray on Wed May 21, 2008 at 05:00:20 PM EST

will effect Obama's planned nomination.


: Coronation. (