Hosting Provider Says Sites Down Wednesday AM

Just in from our network provider...Some kind of critical issue requires maintenance that will have TalkLeft (and not just us) down Wednesday morning starting around 9am ET and continuing for several hours.

Just got an e-mail from Mochila, where we get our news headlines. They are in New York and write:

Please be advised that our hosting provider will be performing critical maintenance on a power cable tomorrow morning EDT. In anticipation of that, we are required to temporarily shut down real-time content feeds into our marketplace as of 5AM EDT tomorrow, May 21st.

Undoubtedly, there will be a lot of sites down tomorrow.

So, get your comments in tonight. I'll keep the threads going for a while tonight.

This is an open thread. Updates below:

Update: Colin, our webmaster says"
I understand and have seen the technical problem they're trying to resolve, but I've never heard of bringing an entire datacenter down in the middle of a weekday for multiple hours, to deal with anything short of a fire. This really is unbelievable.
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    While I'm at the top (5.00 / 3) (#3)
    by andgarden on Tue May 20, 2008 at 10:50:02 PM EST
    Let me offer my congrats to the TL kid. I'm sure he has a great career ahead of him.

    In other news, it looks like Portland has just elected its first openly gay Mayor in Sam Adams.

    Congrats to Sam Adams! (5.00 / 2) (#6)
    by bjorn on Tue May 20, 2008 at 10:53:48 PM EST
    With a name like that... (5.00 / 1) (#28)
    by dianem on Tue May 20, 2008 at 11:39:24 PM EST
    ...how could he lose?   Good going anyway. And congratulations to TL Kid, whom I presume is Jeralyn's son.  Awesome accomplishment.

    Same here to Jeralyn and TL kid (none / 0) (#43)
    by standingup on Wed May 21, 2008 at 12:07:45 AM EST
    It must be very gratifying to see your son sworn in and following in your footsteps.  

    Any blogging on TL in his future too?  


    GET WELL SOON! (5.00 / 1) (#8)
    by MarkL on Tue May 20, 2008 at 10:54:45 PM EST
    We need you!!

    heh (none / 0) (#9)
    by andgarden on Tue May 20, 2008 at 10:57:42 PM EST
    Estrich said it (5.00 / 1) (#22)
    by Stellaaa on Tue May 20, 2008 at 11:20:12 PM EST
    The small states got disproportionate delegates.  

    The Alleged MSM (5.00 / 3) (#24)
    by Stellaaa on Tue May 20, 2008 at 11:26:05 PM EST
    So, basically this is the format.  They give the microphone to partisans to make partisan arguments as if they are representing the truth.  So, someone like Jamal, Alex, Paul and Donna is represented as an expert.   Yet, they are partisans.  What if any clear analysis are they providing?  

    The whole format is like the World Wrestling Competition.  

    It is so disheartening (5.00 / 3) (#25)
    by bjorn on Tue May 20, 2008 at 11:30:29 PM EST
    Chris Dodd was on CNN earlier calling Hillary Mrs. Clinton, and telling everyone she only beat him in Michigan, no one else was on the ballot.  And Wolf and the panel just sit there, no one corrects him.  It is definitely completely shifted from news to enterainment of some bizarre kind.  

    Someone should have asked him (5.00 / 4) (#32)
    by cawaltz on Tue May 20, 2008 at 11:42:48 PM EST
    who removed Barack Obama from the ballot. It would have been funny to have him expain why he left hmself on the ballot but Barack didn't It's called political calculation. Why should Barack be allowed to reap the benefits in Iowa without having to pay the consequences for his action in MI?

    The complete lack of accountability and the blaming of people not voting for him on race or poor education is incredibly off putting to me.


    It must be some kind of virus (none / 0) (#53)
    by JavaCityPal on Wed May 21, 2008 at 12:25:17 AM EST
    removing common courtesy, respect and honesty from the new Obama wing of the democratic party.

    Mr. Dodd doesn't do himself any favors as he drops several notches to plenty of his female and male members of congress, and at least 20M Americans who are paying attention to the stupid things the party members are doing right now.


    As per nytimes (5.00 / 1) (#27)
    by Serene1 on Tue May 20, 2008 at 11:36:11 PM EST
    Grant, Wheeler Gilliam and Sherman Counties are yet to report in Oregon.
    Any idea of how favourable these counties are in terms of demography to Hillary.

    And Colin your webmaster is smart (5.00 / 1) (#26)
    by andgarden on Tue May 20, 2008 at 11:32:04 PM EST
    If you absolutely have to take your systems down, you do it in the middle of the night. Say, around 4AM ET. Not first thing in the morning on a business day.

    They are going to have some pissed of customers, and rightfully so.

    an expert of everything! (none / 0) (#31)
    by diplomatic on Tue May 20, 2008 at 11:42:17 PM EST
    Are there many webmasters out there who think it is smart to disrupt service at peak hours?  Really andgarden, it's pretty obvious :)

    I don't know much about baseball FWIW (5.00 / 1) (#34)
    by andgarden on Tue May 20, 2008 at 11:45:10 PM EST
    I do, but I can't understand the rules for (5.00 / 1) (#36)
    by Teresa on Tue May 20, 2008 at 11:51:58 PM EST
    hockey and soccer to save my life.

    I hope you go to that meeting on May 31. I would love to if I was that close.


    Depends on seating, WiFi, and my schedule (5.00 / 1) (#41)
    by andgarden on Wed May 21, 2008 at 12:04:07 AM EST
    I'll probably be able to cover it better watching on C-SPAN!

    Say anything to win? (5.00 / 3) (#38)
    by RalphB on Tue May 20, 2008 at 11:55:27 PM EST
    Why Obama does not deserve to be president.

       Barack Obama, last night in Portland, on Iran: "They don't pose a serious threat to us."

        Barack Obama, earlier on the afternoon of May 19th, in Billings, Montana, on Iran: "I've made it clear for years that the threat from Iran is grave."

    This guy is a liar and will say anything to win.  Not just about the little stuff but he may not have any core convictions.  A disaster in waiting.

    Perfect 527 ad (none / 0) (#39)
    by TeresaInSnow2 on Tue May 20, 2008 at 11:56:21 PM EST
    The man is so all over the place, I'm just going to laugh when the 527 ads come out.

    Yup, the McCain surrogates (none / 0) (#44)
    by shoephone on Wed May 21, 2008 at 12:10:22 AM EST
    are gonna make mincemeat out of Obama for that one. He says one thing on Monday, another thing on Tuesday. It would be funny if it weren't so pathetic.

    Obama's theme song:

    What a difference a day makes
    24 little hours


    Less worried about 527 ads (5.00 / 1) (#54)
    by RalphB on Wed May 21, 2008 at 12:28:02 AM EST
    than the fact of his lies.  After what we've been through for the last 7 years, in the way of lies about war and peace, these kind of statements one day apart should disqualify him.

    This is the kind of thing you will not see from either Hillary or McCain.  This is fundamental and goes to the character of the man or rather the lack of character.


    FOX News (none / 0) (#55)
    by JavaCityPal on Wed May 21, 2008 at 12:28:37 AM EST
    spent a lot of time on that topic today. FOX isn't pretending to like the democrats the way MSNBC, CNBC, NBC, ABC, CBS, and CNN are.

    If Obama takes the nomination, I will love watching FOX through the entire GE.


    I watched O'Reilly the other night (none / 0) (#56)
    by TeresaInSnow2 on Wed May 21, 2008 at 12:31:30 AM EST
    because the women from Ohio were on.  If you think of the BigO as a less attractive Stephen Colbert, his show is really funny.

    But I have to remind myself constantly -- it's SATIRE -- or sometimes I'll get pretty ticked.


    My pool teams won their playoffs tonight... (5.00 / 2) (#40)
    by kredwyn on Wed May 21, 2008 at 12:02:29 AM EST
    In a couple weeks we head to regionals.

    Good luck (5.00 / 2) (#45)
    by standingup on Wed May 21, 2008 at 12:14:42 AM EST
    and hope you advance from the regionals.  I have watched some excellent pool players but was never able to master it myself.  

    Thanks... (5.00 / 1) (#48)
    by kredwyn on Wed May 21, 2008 at 12:19:14 AM EST
    Regionals is crazy. One smoke-filled room with lots of 7 ft. tables. Tons of really tense people--smoking--all wanting a chance to qualify to go to the Vegas qualifiers.

    And did I mention the smoke? I have to take Claratin to make it through the day...and when I get home, the cat refuses to talk to me until after I take a shower.

    All in all...it's fun and scary.

    I picked up a set of worry beads for the capt. a few years ago. It's the only way he survives the games.


    Very unusual (5.00 / 1) (#52)
    by standingup on Wed May 21, 2008 at 12:25:05 AM EST
    that smoking is still allowed since so many cities/states have banned it now.  I do remember being surprised to see people smoking in casinos when I was in Las Vegas for Yearlykos.  

    I am so used to it now that as a smoker, it even bothers me to be in a smoke filled room.


    Around here... (none / 0) (#57)
    by kredwyn on Wed May 21, 2008 at 12:32:50 AM EST
    smoking is more standard than not.

    For the longest time, mine was the only county with the ban.


    Unusual, yes.... (none / 0) (#61)
    by kdog on Wed May 21, 2008 at 08:20:00 AM EST
    but refreshing.  I understand restaraunts and such, I'm a big smoker but even I don't want to eat in a smokey room.  But pool halls, casinos, bars...these are dens of sin were smoking should most definitely be allowed.

    Before they banned smoking in the bars by me, I always used to chuckle when the person next to me would complain about second hand smoke while they were drinking poison.  Yeah buddy, I can see you're real concerned about your health, want another shot?


    I have jury duty tomorrow so I won't be too (none / 0) (#2)
    by bjorn on Tue May 20, 2008 at 10:49:43 PM EST
    depressed that I can't get on first thing in the morning.

    Um, what am I going to do (none / 0) (#4)
    by angie on Tue May 20, 2008 at 10:50:19 PM EST
    when I'm goofing off at work?

    It's close (none / 0) (#7)
    by andgarden on Tue May 20, 2008 at 10:54:43 PM EST
    I need the push (none / 0) (#10)
    by Klio on Tue May 20, 2008 at 10:58:26 PM EST
    away from my computer screen.  I won't like it, but I have to admit it'll be good for me.

    Congratulations! to TLKid, while I still have the chance to say so.

    Given that the ballots are mailed in... (none / 0) (#11)
    by kredwyn on Tue May 20, 2008 at 10:59:37 PM EST
    and the "exit polling" winds up being phone calls to voters, why was NBC calling it with 17% of the votes counted in OR?

    I know there's a simple answer for that, but...I gotta admit, I'm confused.

    posted this down below...some got 2 ballots (5.00 / 2) (#19)
    by thereyougo on Tue May 20, 2008 at 11:09:42 PM EST
    in OR -- the late registrants.



    They saw a few precincts come in (none / 0) (#13)
    by andgarden on Tue May 20, 2008 at 11:01:44 PM EST
    and their phone poll was confirmed.

    wouldn't it make sense... (5.00 / 1) (#21)
    by kredwyn on Tue May 20, 2008 at 11:17:40 PM EST
    to wait til the votes are...oh I don't know...counted?

    Because then Obama can't make a speech (5.00 / 3) (#30)
    by dianem on Tue May 20, 2008 at 11:41:13 PM EST
    Gotta get him into a prime time slot. Can't have him sitting around until midnight waiting to be declared the winner, like Clinton. He has things to do.

    Not really (none / 0) (#23)
    by andgarden on Tue May 20, 2008 at 11:23:50 PM EST
    When you have a blowout (greater than about 10%), there's no reason to wait to make the call.

    Does anybody have (none / 0) (#12)
    by Iphie on Tue May 20, 2008 at 10:59:54 PM EST
    contact info (mailing addresses) for the members of the Rules and Bylaws Committee? I'm planning on mailing them all postcards with this photo on it. The postcards are ready, I just need the addresses -- I'm sure I can find them all, but I was hoping that someone already has and that there's a list out there somewhere. Any ideas?

    Uh (none / 0) (#14)
    by chrisvee on Tue May 20, 2008 at 11:03:10 PM EST
    is anyone watching Nightline?  They are doing a segment about how Mormons are taking over reality TV, starting with American Idol and Dancing with the Stars.  Some woman just told me that because they come from large families, they are used to competing for attention and therefore excel.

    Is this for real or have I fallen into some sort of bizarro world???

    Marie Osmond was on Dancing (5.00 / 1) (#15)
    by bjorn on Tue May 20, 2008 at 11:06:09 PM EST
    and I think a couple of the dancers are...but I think American Idol only had 1 or 2 mormons in however many seasons.  What a weird thing for nightline to cover.

    Weird, offensive (5.00 / 2) (#18)
    by chrisvee on Tue May 20, 2008 at 11:08:15 PM EST
    Pick a description.

    And now they want the campaign described in 6 words.

    George S. says 'Obama makes history; Clinton hangs on.'  Lovely.


    What history did Obama make tonight? (5.00 / 3) (#29)
    by diplomatic on Tue May 20, 2008 at 11:40:05 PM EST
    Clinton hanging on despite this concerted barrage to kick her to the curb is what is historical.

    I sincerely hope (none / 0) (#35)
    by Serene1 on Tue May 20, 2008 at 11:47:04 PM EST
    Obama made History the "Mission Accomplished' way today.

    Really? That is odd.. (none / 0) (#17)
    by Alec82 on Tue May 20, 2008 at 11:07:49 PM EST
    ...and unfair to LDS members.  I very much disagree with them on a number of issues, but they are treated very unfairly by the media, and by the religious right.    

    They can have it (none / 0) (#33)
    by dianem on Tue May 20, 2008 at 11:42:52 PM EST
    Reality TV is scary. I'm proud to say that I've never watched an episode of Survivor or Dancing with the Stars. I can't believe that Nightline has a story like this.

    Nightline is saying that?! (none / 0) (#59)
    by JavaCityPal on Wed May 21, 2008 at 12:47:44 AM EST
    How foolish.

    Julianne and Derek Hough come from a Mormon family, but they only dance on DWTS and both are more interested in music, so Julianne, I hear, is not appearing next season because she's the opening act for Brad Paisley on his tour this year.

    They'll just pick on anything to kick up some dust, won't they?! MSM must be stopped.


    Sometimes you guys just crack me up (none / 0) (#16)
    by Lil on Tue May 20, 2008 at 11:06:44 PM EST
    Nightie night, and thanks for being there.

    OR results seem stuck at 16% (none / 0) (#20)
    by bjorn on Tue May 20, 2008 at 11:11:52 PM EST
    I wonder if the gap will close at all or if that will be the end result?

    I thought it was taking longer (5.00 / 1) (#42)
    by waldenpond on Wed May 21, 2008 at 12:05:25 AM EST
    to get the rural areas in so it was supposed to tighten up, but I'm curious... OK I'll suck it up and check out CNN and see how the county map is going...

    Clinton has the less populated areas.  Obama: Portland 64/36, Salem 53/47, Eugene 58/42... not much left to come in.  Now I'm changing the channel because I can't stand them.

    My projection was 13.  We'll see.


    How was American Idol? (none / 0) (#37)
    by TeresaInSnow2 on Tue May 20, 2008 at 11:52:59 PM EST
    Our *^$%^ DVR didn't record it.

    Which David was better?

    Colin's right (none / 0) (#46)
    by MikeDitto on Wed May 21, 2008 at 12:16:50 AM EST
    The old provider would go down for hours at a time in the middle of the day (and still does, I'm still with them) but at least it isn't intentional...

    Wow, look at that huge county on the right. (none / 0) (#47)
    by Teresa on Wed May 21, 2008 at 12:16:51 AM EST
    100% of the vote is in and 716 people voted. Can that possibly be right? Is that for voters or county delegates or what?

    Harney County (5.00 / 1) (#49)
    by MikeDitto on Wed May 21, 2008 at 12:19:34 AM EST
    Population 7,609. Sounds about right...

    Yes (5.00 / 1) (#50)
    by TeresaInSnow2 on Wed May 21, 2008 at 12:20:59 AM EST
    Eastern Oregon is quite rural (think cactus) and pretty Republican.  Look at the turnout for McCain.  It was about double.

    The slideshow on this page (5.00 / 1) (#51)
    by TeresaInSnow2 on Wed May 21, 2008 at 12:22:35 AM EST
    will give you an idea of what the place is like:


    Pretty, but extremely uninhabited.


    that is flat out beautiful. I want to move there! (none / 0) (#58)
    by Teresa on Wed May 21, 2008 at 12:34:13 AM EST
    Paint Your Wagon (none / 0) (#60)
    by JavaCityPal on Wed May 21, 2008 at 01:00:13 AM EST
    with Clint Eastwood when he was young was filmed in Bend, OR. The scenery was fabulous.