And yet Bill still gets crucified.

They are running scared of HRC beating him in the popular vote. The boy bloggers are really hysterical over this right now, they see the writing on the wall. MyDD is currently overrun with Obamabots freaking out about Jerome's call for MI and FL to be seated.

Of course, that won't happen because this is politics.  So really, why DID he say that?  Bloggers and the media have been way up front with the "destroy Obama so she can run in 2012" theory.  Why not mention them?

This type of statement is what is dividing the party.  It's the new Obama spin - "The party is in shambles because of Clinton.  Still I respect her right to run."  Oh yes, it's obvious you do.  

Jeez, all Clyburn has to do to hear people talking about how Hillary can't win, and how she's only in this to make Obama lose, and how she hates the party and wants to rip it apart, is turn on the TV or the radio or pick up a newspaper - people of all colors and gender are saying this - what's the point of him saying he's hearing it from African Americans?

Guess we're supposed to say, "Oooooh, now we're really, really scared!"

lets also remember who they are trying to inflame NC for turn out the vote inflame and be angry in the exit polling interviews in run up, and Indiana racially sensitive to beign with and that goes way back will have similar tensions  Ind is unlike PA and Ohio  Its still the Race Card, I don't admire the tactic its not a victimless act but I get why they use it...

...watch for a Robison Brazile something on CNN or Wapo interview again as a companion piece would not surprise me, JJJR was on Bill O'Reily last night in case you missed it anyone see Prof Dyson yet

, ....No one would ever connivance me Clyburn doesn't know what code he is using don't buy it...

Oh and supposedly this is Rev Wright line too the Divisive one did it and we all know who that is supposed to be

It doesn't seem to be much of a stretch to think that Clyburn's distress over the possibility that Fla. and Mich. might count end up counting is twofold: strict enforcement of the ROOLZ is needed to ensure that S. Carolina preserves its new economic engine, and, let's face it, Clyburn is as neutral as Brazile.

I mean with the Rev. Wright controversy and this Clyburn stuff, the African Americans have plenty of reason to come out in huge numbers.

i expect they'll be calling for sen. clinton to drop out, because it's "mathematically impossible for her to win", even after she's sewn up the nomination in august.

Splitting the party has been an implicit threat of the Obama campaign since at least January.  That's what all his talk about Clinton not being able to get his supporters and hedging on whether Michelle would vote for her and all that other crap has always been about.  Clinton has always been one of the strongest candidates to say she'll unite the party.  Obama has always hedged until pushed.  They want SDs scared black voters will walk and they particularly want to freak black SDs out.  

Put simply, IMO, this is a sign they're worried.

He could figure it's a sure way to win over super-delegates. Many super-delegates are terrified of being labeled racist (even when it can't hurt them campaign wise. Let's face it most dems don't think like republicans.) Thus they must agree to vote for him to avoid label and to avoid splitting party along race lines. Losing election doesn't matter as much as loss of self-perception. After all they will worry if they act in "racist" manner they will lose anyway. When it's damned if you, damned if you don't then at least hold to self-perception.

He honestly believes this will weaken Hillary enough with AA community and white liberals that she will lose 2008. However, I don't believe it. If AAs truly felt that way they would not have kept bailing out dems given wedge social issues like gay marriage. (Though many truly hated Bush after Florida disenfranchisement [went for blacks first with false accusations re felonies stripping rolls]. Ah irony thy name is Barack Obama.

Generally, primary battles have certain attacks that are considered off limits, the reason for this is because at the end of the primary the winner must count on the supporters of the loser.  After the primary, there is no need to hold back in the main election because the winner will never need to count on the votes of the loser.  This is why so many BO supporters have tried to think of motivations for HRC's using wingnut attacks in the primary.  Yes, I know she essentially says that the Rs made her do it because they would eventually do it themselves, but a lot of BO supporters aren't satisfied with that explanation.

Randi Rhodes after gettin fired on AAmerica, is on again, telling half stories about Hillary. She ran a clip of her saying more people voted for her, and ITS TRUE. Hillary didn't qualify it, not saying excluding x y z, but Randi, who I'm getting annoyed with, made it sound like she was fabricating.                                      

And said briefly much later, that both Obama and Hillary do NOT have enough to get the nom; yet the emphasis is on Hillary that she's behind. Some people aren't up to speed to what that means. It sends a message that she's losing! ARGH!~

Are they Republicans?  Secret Republicans?  Limbaugh-listening agents of C.H.A.O.S.?

Note that this is a times blog link and thus could balloon to 800+ comments and take forever to load.

Personally, I think between Gail Collins hitting clinton for a "mysterious memo" which is actually real, coupled with Cyburn's hit job could be bad for the Obama campaign.  But only if the Clinton campaign responds.

Because there are no facts, there is no truth, Just data to be manipulated

This from themoderatevoice:

The HP notes that the Obama camp is trying to capitalize on these controversies. It writes:

Sen. Barack Obama’s presidential campaign has prepared a detailed memo listing various instances in which it perceived Sen. Hillary Clinton’s campaign to have deliberately played the race card in the Democratic primary. [See the full memo here.]

The memo, which was obtained by the Huffington Post and has been made public elsewhere, is believed to have been given to an activist and contains mostly excerpts from different media reports. It lists the contact info and name of Obama’s South Carolina press secretary, Amaya Smith, and is broken down into five incidents in which either Clinton, her husband Bill, or campaign surrogates made comments that could be interpreted as racially insensitive.

I guess the only defense for all of the skeletons coming out of the closet.

Anyways here is an interview...yes Bill Moyers with Shelby Steele. It took place after the NH primarys.