Hillary, Obama and Edwards on Stephen Colbert Show Tonight

Hillary Clinton will be on the Stephen Colbert show tonight. Michelle Obama was on earlier this week.

If you watch it, let us know what you think.

Update: I just got an e-mail from the Colbert Report. John Edwards and Barack Obama will also make appearances on the show. Edwards will be in person and Obama will appear by satellite.

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    If??? (5.00 / 1) (#1)
    by AmyinSC on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 07:55:03 PM EST
    Heck, yeah!  DVRing it, too!  Not only are those of us who live in the Charleston, SC area are expected to support our Native Son, but Hillary should be GREAT on this show, especially after how well she did in the debate!

    OT but it'll be tomorrows headline. (5.00 / 2) (#49)
    by Salo on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 10:03:39 PM EST
    Do you really think the MSM (5.00 / 1) (#119)
    by Lil on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:11:41 PM EST
    will headline this or cover it at all?  I actually gasped when I saw it, but I don't have faith it will be made too public, but I really hope so. One of the things I've been getting po'd about is that Obama acts like he is all that. How dare he? His supporters will dismiss it, but I think a lot of people will be offended.

    Talk Right beat (none / 0) (#52)
    by bjorn on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 10:06:23 PM EST
    you to it down below!

    same angle? (none / 0) (#55)
    by Salo on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 10:08:10 PM EST
    same clip exactly?

    Oh!` (5.00 / 1) (#57)
    by bjorn on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 10:09:50 PM EST
    Your video is a much better angle, it does look like the finger for sure on this angle, and it also looks like people noticed it in the crowd and are reacting to it!

    I'd say he flipped Clinton off. (5.00 / 1) (#63)
    by Salo on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 10:13:02 PM EST
    did a few other things afterward as well.

    No way (none / 0) (#140)
    by magster on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:44:17 PM EST
    The people behind him reacted as to the "she was in her element" line, and they could not even see his hand.  His follow up was to the line he just delivered.  

    Do you really think he'd be that stupid when he's got the nomination in the bag?


    you cannot tell me (5.00 / 1) (#69)
    by TheRefugee on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 10:20:49 PM EST
    that crowd reaction like that, to gestures no less, are not scripted and screened events ala bushco

    And (5.00 / 2) (#117)
    by nell on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:09:43 PM EST
    I thought his knife stabbing gestures were the most despicable (see video below).

    Not to mention the dusting of the shoulders and shaking of the foot. And who were those people behind him egging him on? They are adults for goodness sakes.



    I agree totally... (5.00 / 1) (#146)
    by NO2WONDERBOY on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:54:34 PM EST
    Why knife? He is no one special to be spared scrutiny; after all, he IS running for president of the United States not a popularity contest.

    I am very glad that for once, two reporters whom I admire and respect, Gibson and Stephanopoulos, addressed the questions of CHARACTER, TRUTHFULLNESS, and JUDGEMENT which Mr. Obama increasingly is showing a lack of.

    He only has himself to blame for the situation he is confronting; his arrogance, unfair play, Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, and sexist (misogynist would be a better word), demeaning, mockingly scornful personal attacks leveled against Mrs. Clinton, (the Annie Oakley remark to name just one of the many he has said throughout the campaign), demonstrate his cynical, disrespectful view of women. But then again, what can you expect of him when he has grossly disrespected his own grandmother, and MOTHER!

    MR. OBAMA DID NOT WIN BY LOSING as has been suggested, HE FLATLY, OUTRIGHT LOST THE DEBATE, LOST MY VOTE (if I ever was tempted to do so if he were the nominee), AND LOST HIS CHANCES OF BEING ELECTED..

    If we democrats are to retake the WH, our choice has to be Hillary, no doubt about it.


    OK, but please don't shout at us, (none / 0) (#164)
    by cymro on Fri Apr 18, 2008 at 01:11:12 AM EST
     ... it doesn't help your case.

    omg.... (none / 0) (#59)
    by kredwyn on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 10:10:25 PM EST
    please...tell me he didn't do that on purpose.

    I haven't played that move in ages.



    looked deliberate to me. (5.00 / 1) (#62)
    by Salo on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 10:12:09 PM EST
    He looks like he had a series of prerehersed gestures that followed as well.

    yeah... (5.00 / 1) (#64)
    by kredwyn on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 10:15:46 PM EST
    I thought the pinky move was a spin up to the actual move...but could also be a "denability" move a la "What? He had an itch."

    there is not a teacher, (5.00 / 1) (#79)
    by OldCoastie on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 10:30:37 PM EST
    teaching beyond 4th grade that does not understand that little manuever...

    very hard to deny.


    am a college prof... (5.00 / 1) (#83)
    by kredwyn on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 10:31:44 PM EST
    and after watching it a second time...it's the bird.

    totally (none / 0) (#66)
    by bjorn on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 10:17:00 PM EST
    Check for Kos response (none / 0) (#108)
    by waldenpond on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:05:38 PM EST
    tomorrow.  I can't wait.  If they approve, it wasn't an accident.  :)

    two fingers (none / 0) (#151)
    by shpilk on Fri Apr 18, 2008 at 12:02:30 AM EST
    and the crowd had already reacted before he scratched his face.

    Nice try though.

    I'm sure Obama can be convinced to create a whole series of events like these, just to keep everyone entertained.


    Looking forward to it! (5.00 / 1) (#2)
    by stillife on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 07:57:11 PM EST
    I loved Ed Rendell's appearance last night.  I'm confident that Hillary display her great sense of humor, yet again.

    Spoiler Alert (5.00 / 1) (#6)
    by Jeralyn on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 08:15:31 PM EST
    here. Don't click if you want to be surprised as to what Hillary says.

    You can't say don't click... (5.00 / 1) (#9)
    by Josmt on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 08:20:39 PM EST
    that's like saying, click it, go ahead, click it... :)

    Gulp!! (5.00 / 1) (#14)
    by mrjerbub on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 08:24:07 PM EST
    I can't believe I just went to Fox News. It's the 1st time ever. I hope they didn't put some right wing cookie on my hard drive.  :(

    EXCELLENT (none / 0) (#23)
    by bjorn on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 08:44:09 PM EST
    Now I can go to sleep early and watch in on tivo tomorrow. I would not have been able to sleep without a peek at what will happen.

    Am I the only one (5.00 / 1) (#7)
    by americanincanada on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 08:15:47 PM EST
    who finds it odd that Hillary would be asked to share her time on Colbert when Michelle Obama was not?

    meh (5.00 / 0) (#12)
    by Nasarius on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 08:23:37 PM EST
    They'll put on who they manage to book. It's pretty neat if they got all three candidates on the same show.

    Anyway, the general consensus seems to be that Michelle Obama's appearance was a trainwreck.


    I saw it and I thought she was fine and I'm a (5.00 / 2) (#19)
    by derridog on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 08:33:26 PM EST
    Hillary supporter.  She seemed to be playing along with him. She seemed a little subdued, but she was probably trying to not make any waves.

    The spoon line (5.00 / 2) (#21)
    by bjorn on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 08:40:06 PM EST
    was very funny.  Then I felt like she played it safe the rest of the way. She was fine, but not really funny after the spoon line.

    I liked her (5.00 / 2) (#31)
    by ruffian on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 09:11:13 PM EST
    and I'm a Hillary supporter too.  It would be great to have her for a first lady....in 2016!!!  She seemed like she has a good sense of humor but was on her best behavior.

    Great dress too, if I might be allowed a style comment!


    i wanna see Obama's agreement to appear (5.00 / 1) (#8)
    by TheRefugee on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 08:19:40 PM EST
    I wanna see what his pre-conditions to appearing were.  A) be nice, B) don't bring up Wright, C) I will only respond if the original comment makes fun of or belittles Hillary Clinton, D) the applause sign is lit and everyone is forced to applaud and cheer after each comment I make.

    Come to think of it, Hillary should demand those same favorable conditions.

    don't forget the pillows (5.00 / 1) (#11)
    by Josey on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 08:22:11 PM EST
    You're confused (none / 0) (#15)
    by 1jpb on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 08:24:32 PM EST
    BO doesn't require preconditions, only preparations.

    This is lame (5.00 / 1) (#35)
    by Edgar08 on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 09:18:11 PM EST
    More preferential treatment for Obama.

    Can't just show up and do his own segment on the next show, can he?

    Is there any situation (none / 0) (#38)
    by IndiDemGirl on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 09:25:40 PM EST
    that you wouldn't spin to slam Obama?  If he saved 10 people from a burning building would you find a way to criticize him for that?  I mean it is a comedy show.  Let it go and enjoy it.  

    Yes (5.00 / 2) (#44)
    by Edgar08 on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 09:43:24 PM EST
    If he would have went on the Colbert Report on any other day other than the day Clinton is scheduled to go on the Colbert Report, then I would not be criticizing him here!  Ok?

    And if, as president, 7 million people are raised out of poverty, then I will give Obama credit for that too.

    Which is more than some* can do for Bill Clinton.

    *See Obama supporters.

    Got it?  Good.


    I voted for Bill Clinton (none / 0) (#113)
    by IndiDemGirl on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:08:12 PM EST
    twice and thought he was a good president. So guess YOU dont "got it."   SOME Obama supporters are childish and petty about their candidate, but there are plenty of immature comments on this site.  Maybe the Colbert Report wanted both candidates to appear the night after the debate.  Maybe they asked him first. You just jump to the assumption that Obama did something "bad."  Criticize him all you like, he deserves some of it -- but on when he is appearing on the Colbert Report?  

    Before complaining about childish (none / 0) (#124)
    by Edgar08 on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:14:57 PM EST
    Comments on this site show us some of your similiar comments to childish Obama supporters on a different site.

    I don't jump to assumption that Obama did something bad here.

    I jump to the assumption that he can't win without preferential treatment from the media.


    I can't stand (5.00 / 1) (#131)
    by IndiDemGirl on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:29:02 PM EST
    to read the anti=Hillary diaries on other sites.  I've lurked for a long time at various sites and never commented at all.  I just registered at this site a few days ago, and if you check my comments here, you'll see that I have never said a negative comment about Hillary or Bill.  I'll be voting for Obama in the upcoming Indiana primary, but I'll support Hillary and volunteer for her if she is the nominee.  

    For some reason, I enjoy reading many of the comments here even though I support the not-favored candidate.  I do enjoy listening/reading views that are different from mine. Sometimes they go too far or seem, well, childish.  The show was good fun -- both candidates seemed happy and personable.  Too me, who wants a Dem in the White House, that's a good thing.  


    You should comment (none / 0) (#134)
    by Edgar08 on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:32:37 PM EST
    On those other blogs.

    That doesn't mean stop doing so here.

    Don't take it that way.

    If you can't stand the anti-Clinton screeds, comment on those blogs about it.  Tell them they are wrong.

    Then see if you still want to be part of the Obama movement.


    Good Point. (none / 0) (#136)
    by felizarte on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:40:18 PM EST
    hope she takes it.

    Maybe -- (none / 0) (#169)
    by IndiDemGirl on Fri Apr 18, 2008 at 01:51:44 AM EST
    but I'm kinda scared to comment, espcially at the "other" site where I lurk. I love reading about the senate and house races and really get good info at that "other" site.  But I do think that if my first comment was to defend Hillary I'd be branded a troll.  

    Keep in mind that here in my neck of Indiana I know many Obama supporters and Hillary supporters who like either candidate.  Tensions don't always run so high as they do on certain blogs.


    I think you're right (none / 0) (#171)
    by Edgar08 on Fri Apr 18, 2008 at 01:57:27 AM EST
    The Obama movement would brand you a troll for defending Clinton even though you support Obama.

    I realize you don't have to agree with the movement to support Obama, but I do think one should think twice about such a movement.

    I think it's a destructive force in the party.


    Howard Fineman.. there's the person from Obama Net (5.00 / 3) (#37)
    by TalkRight on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 09:21:35 PM EST
    This is funny....

    Today while KO takes shot at ABC for not doing their job at yesterday's debate Howard Fineman takes umbrage on being called "person from Obama Network". Tells KO like a sobbing child:
    When Randell saw me in the spin room, yesterday, he said, "there's the person from Obama Network". Please don't call us Obama Network. We are news analysts doing our job... so clearly Clinton camp has been whining about press coverage.. they can't deny that.

    Randell is classic.. he knows how to treat these guys from Obama Network!!

    Awesome. (5.00 / 2) (#40)
    by ruffian on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 09:26:55 PM EST
    When I forget I'm in love with Stephen Colbert, I'm in love with Ed Rendell.

    The hypocrisy is astounding (5.00 / 4) (#43)
    by Davidson on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 09:39:44 PM EST
    Clinton's complains are whines, but Obama's are legitimate.

    Are you kidding me?!  All I have to hope now are that Clinton handily wins PA and wins IN.  Please!  She's our only chance to win in November and this media obsession with flat-out lying for Obama is driving me crazy.


    Ha Ha. They are doing their job... (none / 0) (#41)
    by Maria Garcia on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 09:28:04 PM EST
    ...but Gibson and Stephanopolis aren't.

    There is officially incest going (5.00 / 1) (#42)
    by bjorn on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 09:35:21 PM EST
    on between KOS and MSNBC, promoting each other's stories, each other, and so forth and son on...I am glad Rendell and others call it like they see it. Rendell also went after ABC, he thought the questions should have been more substantial...so he is consistent.

    Also, Howard Dean is having a freak out and now wants SDs to decide NOW!  Since Obama's performance was not stellar you would think there would be no hurry until after PA, IN and NC vote, at least.  But he is taking back his July 1 deadline, per interview with CNN.


    must be really hell on Dean (none / 0) (#45)
    by white n az on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 09:46:37 PM EST
    to realize that the convention isn't until August...

    Dean needs to calm down (none / 0) (#100)
    by stefystef on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 10:53:16 PM EST
    With the disenfranchisement of MI and FL, the Democratic Party doesn't need to ignore the last 9 states and PR by trying to end the race now.  If you do that, then you are saying all Americans don't count.  And those states may go red in the GE.

    The Obama camp is running scared and putting pressure on Dean to make Hillary quit.  Dean needs to let this play out.  And stay out of it.


    Dean's comment came a day early... (none / 0) (#104)
    by white n az on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 10:57:52 PM EST
    he could have flipped her the bird too!

    After all, it's OK if you're Obama (or for Obama)


    How will Dean react (none / 0) (#139)
    by felizarte on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:44:02 PM EST
    if after pressuring the Super D's to decide, they go for Clinton after Pennsylvania and Indiana for the reasons stated in this forum?  Is he so sure that the Super D's would nominate Obama?

    Obama fingers a 'gotcha' debate ?? (none / 0) (#47)
    by TalkRight on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 09:53:39 PM EST
    Obama fingers a 'gotcha' debate
    Did Obama Give Hillary The Finger Today?
    Obama Gives Clinton the Finger?

    Could he be that stupid.. or just couldn't help the snob swipe!!

    I have to go with (none / 0) (#48)
    by bjorn on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 09:59:05 PM EST
    snob swipe, not truly a finger to Clinton!

    Not sure what a snob swipe is... (5.00 / 2) (#76)
    by kredwyn on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 10:29:03 PM EST
    but watching it...it looks like a flip of the bird.

    HELP (5.00 / 1) (#51)
    by sas on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 10:05:10 PM EST
    Everyone - please go to the tape of Obama's rally in Raliegh NC today where he flips the bird to Hillary Clinton .  Talking about the debate - Hillary is in her element - middle finger to the face scratch.

    I taught school for 35 years.  Make no mistake - I know when some wiseass is giving the finger.

    Check it out.


    Can someone do a live link to this?

    Ya know (5.00 / 3) (#68)
    by magisterludi on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 10:19:43 PM EST
    I don't know if he's flipping her off or not, but his comment about Hillary being in her "element" is about as juvenile as it gets. He's about as presidential as my big toe.

    I have voted dem my entire life, but I will not vote for him. He is nothing but a bully and a braggart.

    It's the last straw for me.


    I'm with you (5.00 / 1) (#73)
    by Edgar08 on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 10:24:37 PM EST
    A lot of us are.

    Count me in on that (5.00 / 1) (#77)
    by RalphB on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 10:29:59 PM EST
    Absolutely will not vote for Obama.

    I'll Be Learning How To Do A Write In Vote (5.00 / 1) (#81)
    by MO Blue on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 10:31:31 PM EST
    this November. No way - no how this guy gets my vote.

    Obama/Clinton (none / 0) (#88)
    by Nasarius on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 10:41:24 PM EST
    If that's the ticket, and you're in a swing state, you know you'll hold your nose and vote.

    If Obama wins the nomination and is stupid enough to pick someone else as a running mate...well, I don't care. He'll lose anyway.


    Clinton/Obama absolutely (5.00 / 1) (#101)
    by RalphB on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 10:54:23 PM EST
    but Obama/Clinton, you can keep that one!

    Same here! (5.00 / 1) (#148)
    by felizarte on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:58:25 PM EST
    and my family and friends too!

    links here. (none / 0) (#137)
    by ghost2 on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:41:10 PM EST
    Riverdaughter has a story with links.  

    Check out Taylor Marsh, and CBS video (the gester is at about 0:30 in the video, and watch the crowd reaction behind him too.) IMO, CBS video is the best.  

    Corrente posted a video, watch the crowd reaction (middle row, right of screen), at 3:10 he says:

    That is also precisely why I am running for president to change that kinds of politics.

    I wanted what BTD's take on this is?


    The woman in pink top, last row, gets it-- (5.00 / 3) (#58)
    by jawbone on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 10:10:19 PM EST
    explains to friend our left--unmistakable.  

    And he goes on with other gestures.

    I really like the shaking something off the sole of his shoe.

    What a juvenile thing to do! In a presidential campaign????

    My unbiased (5.00 / 3) (#75)
    by bjorn on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 10:26:28 PM EST
    18 year old senior in H.S. just made it official.  She totally thinks he flipped her off.

    OT, but did Obama flip-off HIllary? (5.00 / 1) (#72)
    by MarkL on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 10:23:00 PM EST
    Judge for yourself:

    Of course (5.00 / 4) (#78)
    by sas on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 10:30:33 PM EST
    he flipped her off.

    This is so "high school" and wiseass teenage boy....oh yeah the teacher won't know what I'm doing, I can always deny, aren't I both cool and smart, heh, heh, heh, they'll never know

    right - just before I give your sorry ass detention, call your parents, and send yuou to the principal Barack honey


    And people wonder why I compare him to (5.00 / 3) (#82)
    by MarkL on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 10:31:33 PM EST
    Bush. He is a carbon copy. In fact, a lot of what he says doesn't even make sense---just like W---and people eat it up anyway.

    Call me slow (5.00 / 1) (#142)
    by ghost2 on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:47:58 PM EST
    Just lately, I realized that it could be intentional from both of them.  What do Bush and Obama do answering the question?  For two seconds, they say something pretending to answer the question, then they veer off to some amorphous, very hard to make into a soundbit rambling in which they repeat their themes (hope... change washington... ), remember how many times Bush would use certain phrases close to each other to suggest a connection??

    So, after the answer, no one remember anything or can make head or tail of it, but people would say that he was talking mostly about unity... hope ... etc.  

    I bet you after Bush cleaned Daschle and Kerry's clock and bullied them completely with these tactics, they were awed to meet a democrat who could do the same.  Hey, he is our version of Bush, and we can win!


    What strikes me is how often he says (none / 0) (#180)
    by MarkL on Fri Apr 18, 2008 at 07:56:30 AM EST
    something that just doesn't make sense.
    He sounds more fluent than Bush, sure.. but the content?
    What did he mean when he said people explain their frustrations by clinging to guns, religion and bigotry? Explain? Really?

    Wow (none / 0) (#109)
    by ROK on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:06:12 PM EST
    You guys are really digging now. Is this where we are now? -getting worked up about a man itching his face and then claiming that you know that he was flipping her off because you know everything.

    Man, I can't wait until the primary season ends and the vultures go to rest...


    I can't wait (5.00 / 4) (#115)
    by Edgar08 on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:08:55 PM EST
    Till the primary's over and Obama starts trying to bring in the supporters of the candidate he flipped off.

    He will not be the nominee (none / 0) (#158)
    by diplomatic on Fri Apr 18, 2008 at 12:45:27 AM EST
    We're past the point of hedging bets.  I feel confident now to say that too much has been revealed about Obama's true nature and inexperience and ultimately Clinton will be our candidate this year.

    You see, that's a good way to get me (5.00 / 2) (#116)
    by MarkL on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:09:30 PM EST
    to vote McCain.
    Admit what Obama did, and deal with it.
    Show me what his virtues are, because I don't see any.

    True Colors (none / 0) (#147)
    by ROK on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:57:11 PM EST
    You must be a proud Dem. I undertand that Obama supporters whine when Obama gets picked on just as Hillary supporters do, but that does not make it right. I'm appalled and embarassed by how all of us have handled this season. Look at the big picture for once!

    I'm not saying Obama is the best and I'm not Hillary is the best, either. I just can't believe that fellow Dems are getting themselves so worked up that they would vote for the GOP.


    I am a proud Dem... that's why I don't take (none / 0) (#181)
    by MarkL on Fri Apr 18, 2008 at 07:57:08 AM EST
    to one Dem giving another the finger. It hurts my pride.

    he he heh he... (5.00 / 1) (#120)
    by kredwyn on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:11:44 PM EST
    thanks...I haven't laughed that much for a while. Good thing I wasn't drinking anything, or I'd be out a screen.

    That's precious...(I had this response pegged upthread)


    Y'all are so funny, (none / 0) (#129)
    by 1jpb on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:22:49 PM EST
    I suspect a lot of HRC fans don't watch BO mutch, but I do, and I can tell you he is always itching is head.  Sorry to rain on your parade.

    I will say that I've always wondered why his head is so itchy, I've never seen a politician itch the way he does.  Does quiting smoking cause this kind of thing?


    Not a "fan" of any candidate... (none / 0) (#130)
    by kredwyn on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:26:00 PM EST
    However, the crowd--I'm assuming that they are regular watchers of Obama's stump speeches, yes?--seemed to have quite the reaction to this "itch" of yours.

    Including the people behind him (none / 0) (#135)
    by 1jpb on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:38:20 PM EST
    that couldn't see that side of his face.  And, there's the fact that the crowd was animated with almost everything he said, as is common.

    Oh absolutely... (none / 0) (#143)
    by kredwyn on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:48:48 PM EST
    Course I didn't actually understand what it was they were so animated about.

    It just seemed like so much...cacozelia followed by cacophony. What with the references to her "being in her element" and "twisting the knife."


    Course there's gonna be a great rhetorical analysis paper in here somewhere...


    You're assuming (none / 0) (#155)
    by echinopsia on Fri Apr 18, 2008 at 12:12:18 AM EST
    there were no television monitors they were watching that caught the OBVIOUS (immature, crude) bird flip from the front.

    Nobody who knows he's being recorded uses that finger accidentally. Don't be disingenuous.


    Whoa (none / 0) (#149)
    by ROK on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:59:18 PM EST
    They were reacting to what he said, not the "flip". I watched this speech twice and did not see the flip.

    I did seen "it" once it was shortened to a 10 second clip, but how desperate are people getting to want to discuss this. Where is BTD?


    calling from BTD (5.00 / 1) (#160)
    by diplomatic on Fri Apr 18, 2008 at 12:55:44 AM EST
    will not save you from your own stupidity.

    Classy (none / 0) (#165)
    by ROK on Fri Apr 18, 2008 at 01:13:48 AM EST
    Watch it, pal. Do not insult.

    calling for BTD? (5.00 / 1) (#161)
    by diplomatic on Fri Apr 18, 2008 at 12:57:02 AM EST
    Kool-aid now comes in a new whine flavor!

    What? (none / 0) (#166)
    by ROK on Fri Apr 18, 2008 at 01:15:39 AM EST
    I was whining? How?

    BTD usually comes in a shut's you guys up. He's missed tonight.


    You guys? (none / 0) (#172)
    by diplomatic on Fri Apr 18, 2008 at 01:58:20 AM EST
    Through the looking glass time...

    He is missed (none / 0) (#173)
    by ROK on Fri Apr 18, 2008 at 02:40:58 AM EST
    BTD would have jumped in and calmed the children down before it got to the point it has. If you think that BO did this intentionally than you are not qualified to comment on this cycle anymore because you have become so irrational in Obama hate that anything he does is evil.

    I support him, but I also admit when he is wrong and when Hillary is right. That is a lesson that ALL of us need to learn both on TL and DK.

    It is not one or the other all the time.


    reacting to what he said... (none / 0) (#156)
    by kredwyn on Fri Apr 18, 2008 at 12:13:40 AM EST
    You mean the barbs at Sen. Clinton as being "in her element" and a "knife twister"?

    Frankly, I find the whole "fingergate" thing quite funny.

    It's got a spectacle factor involved that is fascinating...and should be very interesting to watch it unfold as the vid goes viral.


    Do not mistake my skepticism (none / 0) (#132)
    by kredwyn on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:31:48 PM EST
    for being a "fandom" member for any particular candidate. Just cause I don't accept a particular candidate as "the" candidate...that doesn't automatically stick me in another candidate's camp.

    Some of us actually prefer to not be enthralled by politicians as they tend, regardless of what they claim to be, to break hearts and promises at some point in time.


    I was serious about (none / 0) (#138)
    by 1jpb on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:42:40 PM EST
    the smoking question.  Does anyone know if quiting makes you itch, that's what I've guessed (with absolutely no knowledge) as I've been watching all his face itching for a while now.

    Is there some other reason people itch their face a lot?  I've heard he wears makeup (for the tv), does that cause itching?


    I don't smoke... (none / 0) (#144)
    by kredwyn on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:50:20 PM EST
    but I've never heard of such a reaction. And you wear make up on TV...prolly not as much at a stump speech in an auditorium in NC.

    I quit (none / 0) (#153)
    by sumac on Fri Apr 18, 2008 at 12:08:00 AM EST
    and I didn't scratch my face a lot. But I didn't use the gum or patch. To be generous, maybe those things cause an itchy face?

    I've never heard of that side effect of nicotine replacement therapies or quitting in general.


    it could (none / 0) (#163)
    by TheRefugee on Fri Apr 18, 2008 at 01:09:28 AM EST
    smoke is an irritant, the toxins have been linked to premature aging of the skin, specifically on the face and dominant hand since they are nearest the smoke.  His skin might itch as a result of shedding the toxins.  (my opinion)

    I'm hearing that he started (5.00 / 1) (#167)
    by kredwyn on Fri Apr 18, 2008 at 01:16:31 AM EST
    the quitting process a year ago. If so, the toxins would be gone by now.

    ah well, wrong again (5.00 / 1) (#168)
    by TheRefugee on Fri Apr 18, 2008 at 01:34:52 AM EST
    won't be the last time I'm sure, but I'm out for the night---Rox 1, Pads 1 in the bottom of the 16th...only reason I'm still up.

    Hey... (none / 0) (#170)
    by kredwyn on Fri Apr 18, 2008 at 01:54:31 AM EST
    he coulda started sneaking a cig out behind the hotel :)

    I quit (none / 0) (#179)
    by kenoshaMarge on Fri Apr 18, 2008 at 04:26:10 AM EST
    smoking cold turkey after smoking for 40 years. I did not twitch, itch, scratch, or gyrate. I coughed a lot, even more than when I smoked. I was also irritable. That's just me but itching and twitching do not, so far as I know have anything to do with quitting smoking.

    Next excuse and/or explanation?


    I certainly don't think (none / 0) (#125)
    by bjorn on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:15:25 PM EST
    I know everything, but then I am not the one claiming "no one has done more for "fill in the blank" than me!"  Every day there is a new fill in the blank.  Based on Obama's accounts of how much he has done for everyone he should be the most accomplished man in the world.

    I can say one thing for certain (5.00 / 4) (#127)
    by Edgar08 on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:20:24 PM EST
    No one has done more to divide the Democratic Party than Barack Obama.

    Right (none / 0) (#150)
    by ROK on Fri Apr 18, 2008 at 12:01:39 AM EST
    Exactly right (none / 0) (#152)
    by Edgar08 on Fri Apr 18, 2008 at 12:05:52 AM EST
    His strategy was to discredit the Clinton legacy.

    Half the party is still very loyal to the Clintons.  As you can see here.

    He had to know his strategy would divide the party.  He chose to do it anyway.

    Or if he didn't know that, then he's a fool.


    wtf? (5.00 / 2) (#74)
    by english teacher on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 10:24:50 PM EST
    either he flipped her off and the crowd cheered, or the crowd cheered because he scratched his face?

    He must really not want to be president... (5.00 / 1) (#154)
    by Dawn Davenport on Fri Apr 18, 2008 at 12:10:07 AM EST
    After living through 7 years of one arrogant frat boy running the country, Americans aren't going to replicate their mistake.

    What in the world does he have to gain by making such a crude gesture at this point in his campaign? He's starting to get a Hart-like "go ahead and prove I'm a cad" stench, and it won't go unnoticed by voters and the supers.


    SNL fodder... (none / 0) (#123)
    by sumac on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:13:39 PM EST
    Oh, I hope they do something with this since I fear the rest of the MSM will quietly sweep this under the rug.

    Well, they cheer (none / 0) (#185)
    by ruffian on Fri Apr 18, 2008 at 09:21:33 AM EST
    when he blows his nose - I do not find it hard to believe they would cheer when he scratched his face.

    Great Minds Think Alike (5.00 / 1) (#84)
    by Edgar08 on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 10:32:03 PM EST
    George Bush (none / 0) (#85)
    by bjorn on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 10:34:38 PM EST
    really does love himself, yuck!

    You know, for all his many faults, (none / 0) (#99)
    by MarkL on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 10:52:43 PM EST
    John McCain has some human decency. Does Obama have none?

    I'm beginning to doubt he does (5.00 / 1) (#103)
    by RalphB on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 10:57:28 PM EST
    but, you're right McCain does have some human decency.  Wrong policies, but can be kept in check by a democratic congress.

    I'll say this. Hillary has a lot of guts.... (5.00 / 3) (#94)
    by Maria Garcia on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 10:48:46 PM EST
    ...she keeps going into these venues where everything is stacked against her, and she does it with a smile on her face.

    Hillary shows true leadership (5.00 / 6) (#111)
    by stefystef on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:07:15 PM EST
    She goes on shows that will try to ridicule her.
    She goes to events with voters who aren't voting for her.
    She speaks to conservatives and independents who are polling against her.

    Hillary Clinton is showing me the bravery, strength and intelligence to run this country and make the right changes to put us back on the right track.

    And I find it interesting that Edwards was on the same time as Hillary.  I know I'm in the minority, but I think Edwards wants to endorse Hillary.  I think Edwards is not impressed with Obama and feels that the MSM marginalized his campaign in order to promote their new love, Obama.  In other word, Obama took Edwards top spot.  

    Clinton/Edwards '08-  Now THAT'S the ticket.


    Clinton/Edwards would be a dream ticket for me! (5.00 / 2) (#118)
    by RalphB on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:10:21 PM EST
    For me too! (5.00 / 1) (#141)
    by felizarte on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:47:24 PM EST
    If she is the nominee, perhaps JE can be persuaded.

    that bird flip... (none / 0) (#106)
    by white n az on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:00:35 PM EST
    was a gift to her to be sure...

    well its too bad she had (none / 0) (#107)
    by TheRefugee on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:05:37 PM EST
    over-protective (or over-confident) handlers who didn't want her getting maximum exposure.  She actually has a great sense of humor, is self-deprecating, but can flip the switch from cracking a joke to rattling off factoids about health care instantaneously.  I think she got screwed by her strategists, she is every bit as engaging as Obama and the crowds she draws are actually there to listen and learn and then cheer, while Obama likes the prefab, laugh and clap at my every gesture or word that has nothing to do with anything except "hope and change."

    Whew... (5.00 / 2) (#126)
    by Exeter on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:18:15 PM EST
    I thought for sure, after Clinton's skit ended, that Edwards was going to endorse Obama, but thank goodness it didn't happen. My take on Edwards was that he will endorse someone before North Carolina and that he seemed to be hinting at endorsing Clinton when he said something along the lines of "I want to endorse someone with a health care plan that insures EVERYONE has health care."  I don't know, I might be projecting my Clinton bias, but that's what I took from it.

    I am nervous! (none / 0) (#3)
    by ghost2 on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 08:03:51 PM EST
    I really don't think Colbert is all that funny, and he is very unpredictable.  Is it possible that an endorsement of Obama by Edwards is in the works?

    It's really bad form to invite someone to your show, and spring a new development like this on them after the fact.  Of course, if it was Obama, he could just cancel.  Hillary can't, since press will make it the story.

    I hope it will be boring as heck and make no news.

    Edwards is staying out of it. (5.00 / 1) (#16)
    by Salo on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 08:26:15 PM EST
    you can bank on it.

    He can't possibly do anything about teh direction that Obama and Clinton are travelling.

    He may be able to pick up the pieces eventually.


    Gotta disagree (none / 0) (#4)
    by stillife on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 08:08:08 PM EST
    I love Colbert.  Jon Stewart, not so much.

    I think Hillary will shine.


    I Love Jon (none / 0) (#29)
    by ruffian on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 09:00:54 PM EST
    but I'm IN love with Stephen!!!!

    Doesn't look like (none / 0) (#5)
    by Jeralyn on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 08:12:37 PM EST
    Edwards will endorse either before the nomination.

    Good! (none / 0) (#17)
    by Josey on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 08:26:38 PM EST
    it would only cause more divisiveness - and we will need honest brokers to help heal the party.

    Hillary & strong women don't whine! (none / 0) (#10)
    by Josey on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 08:21:27 PM EST

    Ok...so I read the spoilers (none / 0) (#13)
    by americanincanada on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 08:23:50 PM EST
    and know what Edwards says but there is nothing about what Obama says tonight.

    Hillary's appearance sounds wonderful!

    dang, don't make me want to peek!!!!! (none / 0) (#28)
    by ruffian on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 08:59:58 PM EST
    Where does it say what Edwards says? (none / 0) (#30)
    by Maria Garcia on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 09:08:28 PM EST
    I read Jeralyn's spoiler and I didn't see anything about Edwards. Is there another one or are my reading comp skills slipping?

    Here ya go (5.00 / 2) (#36)
    by americanincanada on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 09:20:08 PM EST
    For what Obama says:


    For Edwards:


    I have to say it is a perfect illustration of them...one works and one talks.


    Thanks. I can't resist spoilers. (none / 0) (#39)
    by Maria Garcia on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 09:26:28 PM EST
    Someone put a video on youtube (none / 0) (#157)
    by ghost2 on Fri Apr 18, 2008 at 12:42:23 AM EST
    I am sure it would be deleted very fast.  But John Edwards is funny as heck.  It's a great script.  Politicians are all admirable after they quit!!

    Fabulous! (none / 0) (#184)
    by kmblue on Fri Apr 18, 2008 at 09:06:25 AM EST
    Oh John Edwards, I miss you!

    I read the AP story (none / 0) (#67)
    by Prabhata on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 10:18:56 PM EST
    It sounded good

    I'm usually asleep (none / 0) (#27)
    by Coldblue on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 08:59:30 PM EST
    when Colbert comes on (I get up at 4:00 am) but this might be worth a red eye.

    This is amusing (I don't think this is a spoiler) (none / 0) (#46)
    by DaveOinSF on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 09:53:01 PM EST
    "[I]t was unclear if [Obama]'s Comedy Central appearance included comedy"

    Did Colbert bring up the middle finger gesture (none / 0) (#53)
    by jawbone on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 10:07:20 PM EST
    Obama made today talking about Hillary at a rally?

    That should play well--there's plenty of video.At Corrente and Riverdaughter.wordpress.com.

    the daily show takes a snipe at Obama!! (none / 0) (#56)
    by TalkRight on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 10:09:39 PM EST
    that was cool!!

    classic (5.00 / 4) (#80)
    by TalkRight on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 10:30:52 PM EST
    He showed debate moderators asking trival issues and puts Obama statment where he says these are distractions, not real issues.

    Then they show Obama answering important issues like Iraq, tax etc.. his answers... "omm.. aaa.. hmmm aaa.. I think... I don't know.. you know, we know.. ...blah blah.."

    That was classic.. he just can't answer the real questions was HIS POINT


    No, it's no accident (none / 0) (#65)
    by lambert on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 10:15:58 PM EST
    Check the second video here: Stay classy.

    The crowd cheers when he makes the gesture, and check the reactions of the women behind.

    Hillary is great but the rest of the show.... (none / 0) (#87)
    by Maria Garcia on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 10:40:04 PM EST
    ....appears to be bashing Stephanapolis as a biased Clinton supporter. Okay. Well he wasn't rude to Hillary but it wasn't an interview and the rest of the show was defending Obama so...........anyone who was expecting this show to be giving equal time to Hillary campaign will be disappointed.

    And it gets even worse with Patrick Murphy... (none / 0) (#89)
    by Maria Garcia on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 10:44:24 PM EST
    ...repeating the koolaid talking points about Obama...once in a lifetime leader, most inspirational leader, bla bla bla. Sorry John Edwards, I am changing the channel.

    if you did you missed out (5.00 / 1) (#105)
    by TheRefugee on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:00:16 PM EST
    Ed(words) was hilarious.  Obama, eh..you didn't miss anything.

    Lokked like Obama did talking points (none / 0) (#114)
    by RalphB on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:08:43 PM EST
    There was certainly no comedy there  :-)

    Did you watch (none / 0) (#122)
    by IndiDemGirl on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:13:12 PM EST
    cuz the crowd thought it was funny.  

    Not to be snarky (5.00 / 1) (#128)
    by nell on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:21:32 PM EST
    but his fans applaud when he blows his nose...so his fans cheering (and yes, Colbert guests are likely to be Obama fans) doesn't mean it is funny or not.

    I saw it, and I thought it was funnier than the AP report gave him credit for (the notice thing is a Colbert show thing, which I am not sure they got), but it wasn't funny enough to justify the cheering, which was more about him than humor.


    You are right about your first point (5.00 / 1) (#133)
    by IndiDemGirl on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:31:52 PM EST
    LOL, some of his fans are too much to take!  As I said elsewhere, they both did fine tonight. And I enjoy seeing them when they seem more relaxed.  Edwards, by the way, was better than both combined!  IMO

    as much as i love to love hillary (none / 0) (#162)
    by TheRefugee on Fri Apr 18, 2008 at 01:04:31 AM EST
    as much as i love to dislike Obama, I would trade the world for Edwards having been the clear choice for the dem nom.

    Annoyed (5.00 / 1) (#112)
    by nell on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:07:34 PM EST
    I feel annoyed. Hill got like 2 minutes and then the other guy comes on shilling for Obama with the stupid talking points the whole country can remember, "once in a lifetime leader," "inspirational," blah, blah, blah. I thought it was a dick move on Colbert's part, especially since Obama was on later anyways.

    Agreed. (none / 0) (#145)
    by ghost2 on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:54:20 PM EST
    Two minutes!  But you know, the take away is her script, b/c it's really funny and memorable, and that is what is being covered.

    I hate that b.s. (none / 0) (#176)
    by BrandingIron on Fri Apr 18, 2008 at 03:25:54 AM EST
    about the "once in a lifetime" crap that everyone tries to pull when shilling for Obama.

    Sorry, no, there will be another time for a more qualified African American to lead the country.  We will be giving up the chance to have a most qualified, intelligent and sharp woman who "was there" during the Civil Rights movement if we screw Hillary this time around.


    I had never thought (none / 0) (#182)
    by cannondaddy on Fri Apr 18, 2008 at 08:23:24 AM EST
    "once in a lifetime" had anything to do with race... It never even occured to me that anyone would.

    Thanks, I'll stop (none / 0) (#90)
    by waldenpond on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 10:44:45 PM EST
    watching and wait for clips tomorrow.

    Which is exactly why (none / 0) (#91)
    by americanincanada on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 10:45:26 PM EST
    Obama probably wanted to appear on the same night as Hillary.

    Thankfully I hear the crowd was with her.


    Part of the crowd..... (none / 0) (#93)
    by Maria Garcia on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 10:46:59 PM EST
    ....wild cheers for when Colbert told Murphy that he should support Clinton because they were more alike...she voted to send him to war.

    WTH (none / 0) (#96)
    by americanincanada on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 10:49:44 PM EST
    did he go there for?

    Colbert asked him (none / 0) (#183)
    by cannondaddy on Fri Apr 18, 2008 at 08:26:27 AM EST
    why he didn't support her.  She authorized a war that he signed up to fight in... It's supposed to be funny.

    Nope (none / 0) (#121)
    by IndiDemGirl on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:12:18 PM EST
    the crowd was not against her. They cheered her, but they went wild everytime Patrick Murphey praised Obama.  And they went even more wild when Obama appeared on the screen that Hillary fixed.  Both Hillary and Obama came off as good sports and funny.  

    Channel changed (none / 0) (#92)
    by Edgar08 on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 10:46:53 PM EST
    It's great framing but Iraq isn't Viet Nam.

    What happens after we take the troops out is a legitimate concern.


    Edward in on now - the white male voter (none / 0) (#95)
    by TalkRight on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 10:49:34 PM EST
    universal care (5.00 / 1) (#97)
    by TalkRight on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 10:51:31 PM EST
    says will vote for somebody who supports his values ie. universal care. [took swipe earlier that he doesn't wan't to sound anit hope or tick Carville]

    ie universal heatth care. (none / 0) (#98)
    by TalkRight on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 10:52:16 PM EST
    universal haircare :-) (1.00 / 1) (#102)
    by RalphB on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 10:55:51 PM EST
    Obama flipped off the nomination (none / 0) (#159)
    by diplomatic on Fri Apr 18, 2008 at 12:46:48 AM EST
    Book it.

    Good show (none / 0) (#174)
    by Dave Latchaw on Fri Apr 18, 2008 at 03:19:34 AM EST
    After watching that, I gotta say - GO EDWARDS!!

    Wait...what? Oh. We are so screwed.

    I know, me too (none / 0) (#186)
    by ruffian on Fri Apr 18, 2008 at 09:32:42 AM EST
    This whole thing is not working out well at all.

    I've been singing songs from 'Jesus Christ, Superstar' about this campaign for a while now, so here's what's on my currentplaylist:

    I've been very hopeful so far
    Now for the first time I thing we're going wrong
    Hurry up and tell me
    this is just a dream
    Or could we start again please?

    I think you've made your point now
    You've even gone a bit too far to get the message home
    Before it gets too frightening
    We ought to call a halt
    So could we start again, please?
    Could we start again, please?
    Could we start again?

    Did ANYONE else catch this??? (none / 0) (#175)
    by BrandingIron on Fri Apr 18, 2008 at 03:21:01 AM EST
    To me, it's an implicit endorsement of Clinton by Edwards.

    When he was doing the EdWord, he said (I believe after cracking the joke about Carville) that he would support the candidate that's consistent with "my values"...and in the text box the bullet item was "Universal Healthcare".

    And we all know whose issue THAT is, right???

    Not Quite (none / 0) (#177)
    by Dave Latchaw on Fri Apr 18, 2008 at 03:44:44 AM EST
    Actually, it said "Universal Haircare". I misread at first, too.

    It did say (none / 0) (#187)
    by americanincanada on Fri Apr 18, 2008 at 11:33:47 AM EST
    haircare...but later he got serious and said healthcare for every man, woman and child in this country.

    Colbert Replay (none / 0) (#188)
    by KevinMc on Fri Apr 18, 2008 at 12:47:02 PM EST
    If you missed it:
    The rerun of last nights show will be on today(Friday) at 2:30 P.M. Eastern / 1:30 P.M. Central and again at 8:30 P.M. Eastern / 7:30 P.M. Central.