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CBS-NY Times Poll; Hillary, McCain Lead Nationally

A new CBS-New York Times poll finds Hillary Clinton maintaining her double-digit national lead over Barack Obama and John McCain ahead on the Republican side. Complete Repbulican poll results are here (pdf) and Democratic results here.

In the race for the Democratic nomination, Clinton leads Illinois Sen. Barack Obama by a margin of 42 percent to 27 percent. Former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards comes in a distant third at 11 percent.

Huckabee is in second place after McCain and Rudy Giuliani is sinking fast.

The biggest drop downward is in former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani’s support, from leading at 22 percent in the last poll to ten percent now.

Mitt Romney and Fred Thompson are tied with only 8% each.

Update: A new Washington Post - ABC Poll is also out. McCain and Hillary lead, but the numbers are different:

Hillary Rodham Clinton, 42 percent
Barack Obama, 37 percent
John Edwards, 11 percent
Dennis Kucinich, 2 percent

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Republican results;
John McCain, 28 percent
Mike Huckabee, 20 percent
Mitt Romney, 19 percent
Rudy Giuliani, 15 percent
Fred Thompson, 8 percent

Update: Larry King just said Mitt Romney will be on his show tomorrow night, the eve of the Michigan primary, where McCain and Romney are in a very tight race. I wonder if it will help.

Update: Analysis of the CBS-New York Times results, and again, these are national:

Hillary leads among men and women. Obama leads among black voters. While the youth vote still favors Hillary, Obama is catching up there. Hillary's lead among those over 45 is increasing.

Those who identify themselves as Democrats rather than Independents voting in the Democratic primary more strongly favor Hillary. And the Dems who have chosen Hillary are more happy with their choice than those who have chosen Obama.

The poll also says the race is still fluid. Only 57% of Dems say their mind is made up. Of those whose minds are made up, Hillary's supporters are less likely to change, but not by much.

On race:

More than nine in 10 Democratic primary voters would personally vote for a black, but fewer (71%) think most of the people they know would do so. More whites (71%) than blacks (58%) think most people they know would vote for a black candidate....White voters (58%) are more likely than black voters (48%) to think the country is ready to elect a black president.

I'm only scratching the surface here. Read the full poll results.

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    hooray (none / 0) (#1)
    by athyrio on Sun Jan 13, 2008 at 08:44:52 PM EST
    We Democrats are waking up and smelling the roses.....Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We must grab the white house and Hillary is our only hope since Edwards is so far down the polls.....With a good choice of a vice president she will win and be OK....Wonder who she will chose for VP if she gets the nomination??

    Meanwhile, (none / 0) (#2)
    by illissius on Sun Jan 13, 2008 at 08:45:42 PM EST
    an ABC/WP poll has them C42, O37, E11.

    Interesting that they agree on Clinton's and Edwards's support exactly, but differ by 10 points regarding Obama's.

    One day (none / 0) (#3)
    by chemoelectric on Sun Jan 13, 2008 at 09:24:32 PM EST
    One day one of us is going to run into a homeless man huddled in a corner with a bottle in a brown paper bag, mumbling "September eleventh, September eleventh, September eleventh". That man will be Rudolph Giuliani.

    I deleted (none / 0) (#4)
    by Jeralyn on Sun Jan 13, 2008 at 09:43:41 PM EST
    a false and inflammatory comment and the response to it. Commenter Aaron is warned. I'm not going to play babysitter here, I'm going to ban repeat violaters.

    Do not use this site to spread falsehoods or troll for your candidate. And I'm being even-handed about this. Someone earlier posted the identical  pro-hillary screed on five different threads. They were all deleted and the poster was banned.

    I'm really (none / 0) (#5)
    by Jgarza on Sun Jan 13, 2008 at 09:48:07 PM EST
    hoping to run against someone other then McCain.  Grandpa Fred, Rudy, Mitt, the Huckabee no one hearts, they would all be so much more fun to run against.

    Why do republicans hate McCain so much.

    Should have read (none / 0) (#6)
    by Jgarza on Sun Jan 13, 2008 at 09:49:00 PM EST
    Why do republicans hate McCain so much?

    Parent
    Okay you want substance Jeralyn? (none / 0) (#7)
    by Aaron on Sun Jan 13, 2008 at 09:53:02 PM EST
    Here's how Hillary is garnering support, by using the same tactics that the Republicans used during the 2006 election.  You remember the fear mongering coming right out of the White House, telling people that a vote for Democrats, and putting Democrats in control was going to help Al Qaeda and our enemies.

    Hillary Clinton has taken a page right out of the Karl Rove handbook, and is attempting to frighten uneducated ignorant voters, her apparent base these days, into voting for her.  Here's the evidence.

    Minority Reports -- New Yorker

    [She mocked Obama for raising "false hopes" and hinted to one audience that if Obama were elected Al Qaeda would strike America to test him. "I don't think it was by accident that Al Qaeda decided to test the new Prime Minister," she said, of the attempts in Great Britain to plant bombs after Gordon Brown succeeded Tony Blair. When Bill Clinton dismissed Obama's antiwar purity as a "fairy tale," it was easy to think that that's how the Clintons wanted voters to view the entire Obama phenomenon.]  


    I knew you could do it (none / 0) (#8)
    by Jeralyn on Sun Jan 13, 2008 at 09:59:21 PM EST
    Thanks, Aaron. I may not agree, but that's a substantive comment stating your opinion and the support for it with a link and without name-calling and personal attacks.

    Parent
    It's sad when people can't differentiate (none / 0) (#10)
    by Aaron on Sun Jan 13, 2008 at 10:13:26 PM EST
    Between joking around in response to the obvious Clinton cheerleading squad, and a serious comment.

    Here's a hint for future reference, when you see my comment followed by a :-) or a series of :-) :-) :-) :-)'s, that's how you know I'm just messing with you.

    I think it's important to maintain a sense of humor, and I think it's unfortunate when people don't get it, or they pretend like they don't get it.

    Parent

    It's like the race the press dreamed up (none / 0) (#9)
    by Militarytracy on Sun Jan 13, 2008 at 10:12:23 PM EST
    two years ago now happening....well maybe I thought about that race some also back then and didn't need much coaxing. It seemd to be time for McCain and Clinton to have their turn and so they are?

    Diff in the polls (none / 0) (#12)
    by RalphB on Sun Jan 13, 2008 at 10:33:19 PM EST
    Probably that pesky voter model again.  Though this far out, it doesn't really make much difference.  More about some bragging rights I guess.


    Jeralyn's update is fascinating. (none / 0) (#13)
    by oculus on Sun Jan 13, 2008 at 11:41:05 PM EST


    those numbers prove it (none / 0) (#14)
    by athyrio on Sun Jan 13, 2008 at 11:55:53 PM EST
    Those numbers about blacks seem to be exactly the same as the thing that media keeps talking about in that people will say they will vote for a black but in the voting booth just won't do it...Has been proven over and over again in several races...