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The Invidiousness Of Expert Broderism

Edward Lazarus is incredibly smart. His incisive writing in analyzing the law and the politics of the Supreme Court is both accessible and enlightening. But like too many other academic Broders, he is too detached to truly express, in my opinion, the seriousness of the current state of our political legal battles. In today's WaPo, he provides yet another example of that detachment:

[T]he court of Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. announced itself as even more conservative than William H. Rehnquist's court, which, from 1986 to 2005, undercut many of the progressive initiatives from Earl Warren's era. The Roberts court also showed little regard for the court's own precedents, overruling or eviscerating a slew of past decisions that did not conform to conservative principles.

This is a jarring, and accurate, paragraph. It should send chills down Lazarus' spine. If it does, it is not reflected in Lazarus' column:

Progressives are shell-shocked. . . . When the shock wears off, however, progressives will have to ask themselves whether they should ever have expected (or sought) so much from the judiciary. And they should think about what they can realistically expect in the future. The progressive approach to looking to the judiciary for social and political salvation has always run against the grain of history. And if progressives are going to advance their agenda in court going forward, they probably will need a significantly different strategy and focus.

Forget about the Court is Lazarus' solution. And perhaps he is right. But it should not be so and it is not a complete solution. It is clear that Lazarus does not conceive of the possibility that a Roberts' Court will be anti-majoritarian in its drive to impose it radical reactionary views. for example Lazarus writes:

The 19-year period from 1954 (when the court decided Brown v. Board of Education) through 1973 (when it ruled on Roe v. Wade) stands out as a progressive aberration -- the only time since the 1820s that the court stood at the forefront of legal and political reform. In this sense, the past 33 years of accelerating rightward drift have been a return to conservative normalcy. Why did we see the court otherwise? Because we either experienced the Warren era court or became enraptured with its description in our civics books.

. . . This forbidding reality all but forecloses any additional advancement in the judiciary on the two broad progressive legal planks of the modern era. The first of these is what could fairly be called the "equality agenda" -- the battle to redeem the Constitution's promise of equality from the grip of Jim Crow and a history of discrimination against women and minorities.

To a significant degree, this agenda has become a victim of its own success. Led in no small part by the court, the nation has placed itself indelibly on record as aspiring to a society in which people of both sexes and various races, ethnicities and religious groups receive equal treatment under law. But to the extent that we are not yet one nation -- one people -- all equal in rights and opportunities, progressives will now have to turn to forums other than the court for further progress.

(Emphasis supplied.) What type of forums does Lazarus suggest? Surely not school boards, such as those in Seattle and Louisville, whose plans to enact a progressive agenda on integration were stymied by the reactionary, judicially activist Roberts Court. What does Lazarus suggest progressives do about that? And there can be no doubt that the Roberts Court will extend this approach to all facets of public policy - a new Lochner-like era seems imminently possible.

The problem is this -Lazarus, like many legal academics, do not like the fact that the Supreme Court is, at its heart, a political institution. Lazarus recognized this, as this piece about the Roberts confirmation fight demonstrates. But he just plain does not like it. There he wrote:

As I have argued many times, including in an earlier column for this site, this means that Senate Democrats will be seeking to defeat Roberts on very weak legal grounds. Having serious doubts about the legal underpinnings for Roe v. Wade is respectable and responsible, not extreme or bizarre. Partisan liberals may consider Roe a sacred cow, but constitutional scholars simply do not. Senate Republicans may even point to liberal and moderate critiques of Roe if Roberts answers equivocally about - or, more likely, refuses to discuss - the decision.

In the end, then the Democrats will be waging their fight on political, not legal, grounds -- that is, based not on the soundness of their own jurisprudence, but on the polls, which say that roughly 70% of Americans support a woman's right to choose.

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The Roberts Hearings: Probably Unenlightening, and One-Note

The upshot of all this is that we are pretty unlikely to reap one genuine benefit of the Bork hearings: The questions and answers between the Senators and Bork treated the nation to an open and wide-ranging debate about the meaning of our Constitution and the role of judges in interpreting it.

Thanks to Bork's entrenched views and his unusually frank responses, the public got an extraordinary education about the divisions in our legal and political culture -- regarding not just the issue of privacy, but also those relating to race, states' rights, religion, free speech and others.

There is, sadly, little risk of such enlightenment this time around. Most likely, Roberts will be as bland and reasonable as possible, while the liberals push and probe, but end up with insufficient information to penetrate Roberts's attractive veneer. In short, it will be all about "not-Bork."

Lazarus seems geuninely disappointed that the debate about the Supreme Court will not be high minded Constitutional arguments about the Constitutional soundness of Roe and instead will be sullied by "mere" politics. Here is an academic who seems not to care a whit about the real world consequences of what the Supreme Court does. These are our "liberal experts." Detached and "serious."

The funny thing is their view of the role of the Supreme Court and the process of picking Supreme Court justices is utterly anti-Constitutional. The idea of the Senate not confirming a Justice on the basis of ideology is anethema for such as Lazarus.

Advice and consent appears to mean "rubber stamp" to our "ivory tower." It springs from a detachment and disconnect we can ill afford in these drastic times.

In his famous "I Have A Dream" speech, Martin Luther King said:

We have also come to this hallowed spot to remind America of the fierce urgency of now. This is no time to engage in the luxury of cooling off or to take the tranquilizing drug of gradualism. Now is the time to make real the promises of democracy.

The academic Broders never seem to share that sense of urgency on any issue. Their detachment is palpable. And invidious, if inadvertently so.

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    et al (4.50 / 2) (#7)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sun Jul 01, 2007 at 10:27:06 AM EST
    You are now seeing the danger of legislating by judical rulings.

    No (5.00 / 2) (#8)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Sun Jul 01, 2007 at 10:31:51 AM EST
    I saw the danger of the Roberts Court's reactionary judicial activism long ago, when he was a nominee.

    The Roberts Court overturned the democratically elected school boards of Seattle and Louisville's initiatitive to desegregate their public schools.

    What we are seeing is the sanctimonious hypocrisy of Republicans and "independents" like you who talk negatively about "legislating judicially" except when it is a Republican Court doing it.

    You prove yourself a hypocrite, again.

    Parent

    And you show you only want to attack. (4.50 / 2) (#9)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sun Jul 01, 2007 at 10:43:50 AM EST
    My comment was neutral and could be understood by admitting that anything the SC gives it can also take away.

    All of the years fighting for Demo candidates who supposedly would only vote for SC justices would support Roe V Wade would have been better spent fighting for a federal law. Face it. The politicos have used the Left time after time.

    Same for Gay Marriage. Quit trying to do it through a court, and take it to the American people..

    etc. etc

    Parent

    You simply do not understand the issues (5.00 / 1) (#10)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Sun Jul 01, 2007 at 10:51:44 AM EST
    Brown v. Board of Education said that "separate but equal" violates the EPC. To wit, local laws that segregated violated the EPC.

    Parents Involved said that local school boards can not enact policies to insure integration of their schools.

    You say Brown "gave." I think most think the Constitution gave. Parents Involved took away the ability of local government to choose to promote integration of their schools.

    Parents Involved is less defensible from your perspectivde than Plessy. It is raw judicial activism unmoored from reasonable constitutional principles.

    Plessy was colorably mooreds to the EPC and arguably judicially modest and minimalist.

    Brown was correctly decided but not judicially modest.

    Brown and Parents involved are comparable in not being judicially modest. Brown struck down segregation. Parents Involved struck down policies to remedy segregation.

    You think the two comparable. The reaction to the comparison made by Roberts, a political mistake by Roberts btw, shows that your view is considered rather extreme by most Americans, imo.

    Parent

    Who are you replying to?? (none / 0) (#12)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sun Jul 01, 2007 at 12:05:52 PM EST
    Certainly not me.

    My comment has nothing to do with the issues.

    Instead it points out the SC can give and take. Stronger more constitutional laws passed by Congress is a better solution.

    Parent

    Ok (5.00 / 1) (#15)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Sun Jul 01, 2007 at 12:21:50 PM EST
    My comment has nothing to do with the issues.

    I agree. There is a word for that.

    Parent

    And who decides what is constitutional? (none / 0) (#16)
    by Molly Bloom on Sun Jul 01, 2007 at 12:35:43 PM EST
    Stronger more constitutional laws passed by Congress is a better solution.

    And who decides what is constitutional?

    Step back and think through your comments.



    Parent

    MB (1.00 / 0) (#17)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sun Jul 01, 2007 at 02:00:11 PM EST
    The SC.

    You see my point. Are you incapable of agreeing?

    Parent

    One last point (5.00 / 1) (#11)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Sun Jul 01, 2007 at 10:54:11 AM EST
    The Seattle and Louisville school boards were THe PEOPLE of those jurisdictions.

    THE PEOPLE approved of the desegregation policies that the Roberts Court overturned.

    You are endorsing judicial activism and legislating from the bench when you support Parents Involved, as you seem to do.

    You need to have a better understanding of the issues involved here Jim. Your arguments are not coherent.

    Parent

    See my 12:05PM comment (1.00 / 1) (#13)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sun Jul 01, 2007 at 12:07:15 PM EST
    Are you always so plugged into attacking that you must take everything as a disagreement??

    Parent
    BTD (1.00 / 0) (#22)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sun Jul 01, 2007 at 06:23:02 PM EST
    You are endorsing judicial activism and legislating from the bench when you support Parents Involved, as you seem to do.

    How you can claim the above is beyond my understanding.

    My point was, is and will remain the opposite.

    Parent

    A simple statement then from you (none / 0) (#23)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Sun Jul 01, 2007 at 07:21:11 PM EST
    Jim would suffice -

    Say it and I will accept my wrongness in my comments to you.

    "I think Parents Involved was wrongly decided. Chief Justice Roberts' opinion and Justice Kennedy's concurrence wrongly infringed on the decisions of democratically elected school boards."

    Write those words and mean it asnd you will have a point.

    Parent

    BTD - See if you can follow this (none / 0) (#24)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sun Jul 01, 2007 at 08:34:30 PM EST
    I don't take to loyalty oaths. Especially ones demanded in a bullying way. Why don't you try reading? And see if you can figure out the very last sentence.

    by jimakaPPJ on Sun Jul 01, 2007 at 10:27:06 AM EST
    You are now seeing the danger of legislating by judical rulings
    .

    by Big Tent Democrat on Sun Jul 01, 2007 at 10:31:51 AM EST
    I saw the danger of the Roberts Court's reactionary judicial activism long ago, when he was a nominee.
    The Roberts Court overturned the democratically elected school boards of Seattle and Louisville's initiatitive to desegregate their public schools.

    You prove yourself a hypocrite, again.

    by jimakaPPJ on Sun Jul 01, 2007 at 10:43:50 AM EST
    My comment was neutral and could be understood by admitting that anything the SC gives it can also take away.

    All of the years fighting for Demo candidates who supposedly would only vote for SC justices would support Roe V Wade would have been better spent fighting for a federal law. Face it.

    The politicos have used the Left time after time.
    Same for Gay Marriage.

    Quit trying to do it through a court, and take it to the American people..
    etc. etc

    How is that "judical activism?"

    by Big Tent Democrat on Sun Jul 01, 2007 at 10:51:44 AM EST
    Brown v. Board of Education said that "separate but equal" violates the EPC. To wit, local laws that segregated violated the EPC.
    Parents Involved said that local school boards can not enact policies to...

    Who are you replying to?? (
    by jimakaPPJ on Sun Jul 01, 2007 at 12:05:52 PM EST

    Certainly not me.

    My comment has nothing to do with the issues.

    Instead it points out the SC can give and take. Stronger more constitutional laws passed by Congress is a better solution.

    Ok
    by Big Tent Democrat on Sun Jul 01, 2007 at 12:21:50 PM EST

    (I had written) My comment has nothing to do with the issues.

    I agree. There is a word for that.

    One last point by Big Tent Democrat on Sun Jul 01, 2007 at 10:54:11 AM EST

    The Seattle and Louisville school boards were THe PEOPLE of those jurisdictions.
    THE PEOPLE approved of the desegregation policies that the Roberts Court overturned.

    You are endorsing judicial activism and legislating from the bench when you support Parents Involved, as you seem to do.

    See my 12:05PM comment
    by jimakaPPJ on Sun Jul 01, 2007 at 12:07:15 PM EST

    Are you always so plugged into attacking that you must take everything as a disagreement??

    BTD
    by jimakaPPJ on Sun Jul 01, 2007 at 06:23:02 PM EST

    (BTD had written) You are endorsing judicial activism and legislating from the bench when you support Parents Involved, as you seem to do.

    How you can claim the above is beyond my understanding.

    My point was, is and will remain the opposite
    .


    Parent
    As I thought (5.00 / 1) (#26)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Sun Jul 01, 2007 at 09:13:03 PM EST
    You are being dishonest.

    Yes, Jim. I call you dishonest now.

    The question was simple. The request clear.

    You have engaged in a trolling charade.

    You have spent the day as a troll, maybe many days. But today I think the evidence is quite clear.

    I can not speak for anyone else at TalkLeft, but engagement with you is at an end for me.


    Parent

    BTD (5.00 / 1) (#27)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sun Jul 01, 2007 at 10:00:22 PM EST
    There is no way that you can not understand this very clear, very straight forward, very honest, very definitive statement.

    You wrote:

    You are endorsing judicial activism and legislating from the bench when you support Parents Involved, as you seem to do.

    I replied:

    How you can claim the above is beyond my understanding.

    My point was, is and will remain the opposite.

    My record contained in the archives is also clear on my support for minority rights, gay marriage, NHC, women's rights.

    Remember that I bill myself as a social liberal. I have said so, and written so for four years.

    Because I have talked the talk and walked the walk I do not have to go to you on bended knee after you obviously intentionally misunderstood a whole string of comments.

    Go bully someone else. I do not seek your approval, nor must I have it.

    You embarass yourself with your attacks and attempts to dominate. You are susposedly a leader. Why not act like it??

    Parent

    pot, meet kettle (5.00 / 1) (#25)
    by Sailor on Sun Jul 01, 2007 at 09:08:37 PM EST
    And you show you only want to attack.
    the above commenter does nothing on this site except make personal attacks and go off topic.

    Now watch as he does it yet again.

    Parent

    For some reason the cliche (none / 0) (#1)
    by Molly Bloom on Sun Jul 01, 2007 at 01:06:06 AM EST
    The Court follows the election returns comes to mind. And it is true... sometimes it just takes awhile.

    Assuming the Democratic party regains the White House and gains seats in Congress, you can bet any and all reforms will be stymied a la the Four Horsemen. The only way (as always) for the Court to follow the election returns will be for a long run of Democratic election success, allowing Democratic appointments to the judiciary. Which, with Iraq, may be possible.

    Justices McReynolds, Sutherland, Devanter, and Butler meet Justices Scalia, Alito, Thomas and Roberts. The problem is, the current Four Horsemen are younger and aren't going anywhere anytime soon.

    There has always been a political componet to the Court as any reader of  Marbury or Dred Scott (to name some obvious decisions) would know. I think it is more nakedly so now than it has been in a long time. Which makes Lazarus the more perplexing.

    The other thing this brings to mind is the legal realists, who clearly saw the polticial nature of the court.



    Tomorrow I will hand out kudos (none / 0) (#2)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Sun Jul 01, 2007 at 01:08:56 AM EST
    to the hard head academics like Balkin and Lederman who saw and spoke and speak clealrly about all this.

    Parent
    I look forward to reading it when I get up (none / 0) (#5)
    by Molly Bloom on Sun Jul 01, 2007 at 01:18:11 AM EST
    I just thought of Biden, patting himself on the back at the debate about how hard he fought on Alito and Roberts and that "some"  thought he was too hard. No, Joe, I just thought you were long winded and ineffective.



    Parent

    Excellent post (none / 0) (#3)
    by andgarden on Sun Jul 01, 2007 at 01:12:19 AM EST
    You are one of those few people who have both urgency and pragmatism--in the right balance. It gives you a coherent world-view, I think.

    On the law (none / 0) (#4)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Sun Jul 01, 2007 at 01:15:53 AM EST
    Jack Balkin and Marty Lederman are excellent in combining high ended academics with an appreciation of real world consequences and politics.

    I am going to be handing out kudos on that point tomorrow, and they will be the most prominent among those mentioned.

    Parent

    Is it detachment? (none / 0) (#6)
    by Dadler on Sun Jul 01, 2007 at 02:45:03 AM EST
    Or denial?

    Save the onerous task of actually amending the constitution itself, the ultimate arbiter of constitutionality is the SCOTUS.  As you said, what would he have progressives do?  Simply give up entirely with justice?  

    Its more fundemental than that. (none / 0) (#14)
    by 1980Ford on Sun Jul 01, 2007 at 12:09:22 PM EST
    The Warren era court was to the Republicans a liberal nationalism. The only way to dismantle it was piece by piece, state by state. The only way to do that was to create memes that would infect one county to another until it spread across the entire state, then spread to other states.

    "Federalism" was this meme. Federalism was not a Republican principle, as Limbaugh like to claim Republicans have. It was a tool, a meme, and a very effective one. The goal all along was a conservative nationalism and when that was in sight, the federalism meme could be abandoned. That is the bottom line of this ruling.

    If anything clearly, boldly and concisely represents the Republican strategy, it is the Foley laws: do what works politically, and do as I say, not as I do.

    Conservative "principles" and "morality" are an illusion, a false promise, and a lie - political rhetoric as weapons and memes. The only principle that mattered was that they were effective in attacking liberalism.

    Since integration is no longer legal, a counter attack would be to demand that minority schools be as good and as well funded as the better schools, and for that to happen the minority communities must be improved to a healthy and livable standard. It is either that or keep building more and more prisons.

    So this ruling really pushes the debate back onto solid liberal grounds. It will likely backfire big time on the conservatives.

    has (none / 0) (#18)
    by Zappatero on Sun Jul 01, 2007 at 02:29:07 PM EST
    anyone thanked Ken Salazar yet?

    Digby Has More (none / 0) (#19)
    by squeaky on Sun Jul 01, 2007 at 03:26:05 PM EST
    About your post. She parenthetically  reminds us:

    Remember, everything the right accuses the left of doing is what they actually are doing.

    digby

    lack of seriousness (none / 0) (#20)
    by chemoelectric on Sun Jul 01, 2007 at 04:05:04 PM EST
    What these Broderists think of as seriousness is lack of seriousness, a form of frivolousness you expect in the formulations of teenagers and young adults, who have yet so little experience that they are incapable of considering a 'real-world' context, but judge solely by textbook definitions of the words they use.

    Very Lewis Carrol (none / 0) (#21)
    by squeaky on Sun Jul 01, 2007 at 04:12:19 PM EST
    Makes his works look like non-fiction.

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    The Persistence of Race (none / 0) (#28)
    by PTCruiser on Mon Jul 02, 2007 at 02:46:04 PM EST
    The political right in this country has had their knickers up about Brown v. Board of Education since the day the Supreme Court, under Earl Warren's leadership, released its decision. Initially, the more sophisticated among their set, such as the sainted William F. Buckley, have attempted to argue straight faced that their ire over the Court's ruling had nothing to do with feelings racial antipathy toward blacks but, rather, concerns for the principles of local control, states rights etc.

    Sometime in the 1980s they got religion, so to speak, and began arguing that efforts to undue the conditions that the Court had declared unconstitutional in 1954 and that had continued nearly unabated for nearly another 20 years were actually antithetical to the Court's decision in Brown v. Board of Education. In other words, attempts to eradicate the effects of racial segregation are in effect efforts to promote racial segregation because in a society seeking to become color blind, which they argue is the only logical outcome of Brown, making any decision based on race is in itself racially discriminatory.

    It took conservatives 53 years and a fair amount of tortured logic to get what they wanted but they haven't fooled anybody, especially black folks. John Roberts and Samuel Alito are more obsessed with the status and advancement of black Americans than Al Sharpton could ever be.