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Altercating Again

Sorry for the less frequent posting today, I guest-hosted again at Eric Alterman's Altercation. Today's topic is Hold the Story, the Treasury Department's request to the New York Times and LA Times not to publish their reports on the Administration's program to obtain international bank records using administrative subpoenas issued without court authorization.

My view:

The newspapers were right to publish reports on the program. We have an Administration that operates in incredible secrecy and a President who believes he can trump the will of Congress and bypass the Courts. Given the NSA warrantless electronic surveillance program and the huge surge in the use of national security letters to obtain our phone records and more, we cannot just take them at their word.

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    Re: Altercating Again (none / 0) (#1)
    by scribe on Fri Jun 23, 2006 at 01:21:31 PM EST
    Sounds pretty close to right as far as I'm concerned. Textually the First Amendment admits of no exceptions to the press' right to publish, and that would seem to go especially for publishing about the government. Y'can't libel the government, so go forward and publish. I've said it before, in the context of the NSA cases - it would do us all a great benefit if the press would just print it.

    Re: Altercating Again (none / 0) (#2)
    by Edger on Fri Jun 23, 2006 at 01:44:29 PM EST
    The newspapers were right to publish reports on the program. The stepped up intimidation tactics and push to silence reporters or threaten them with imprisonment if they publish stories about leaks more than anything else shows us the fear and insecurity of bushco. The cowards are terrified of truth.

    Re: Altercating Again (none / 0) (#3)
    by desertswine on Fri Jun 23, 2006 at 02:12:17 PM EST
    A free press is essential to a free society. The bush spy programs are not small potatoes by any means, but enormous operations affecting the lives and privacy of millions of American citizens.

    Re: Altercating Again (none / 0) (#5)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Fri Jun 23, 2006 at 05:26:39 PM EST
    I can't help but feel this little moment history holds such opportunity for some person of great character and stature to come to fore and take hold of this situation and put an end to it. A person that could turn the country around and in doing so the people with it.

    Re: Altercating Again (none / 0) (#4)
    by profmarcus on Fri Jun 23, 2006 at 07:27:43 PM EST
    the governance structure of the u.s. under the u.s. constitution is such that we would NEVER HAVE TO TAKE "THEM" AT THEIR WORD... the checks and balances were designed to prevent that kind of blind, subservient, incredidly open to abuse kind of paternalism... the bush administration has been feeding the constitution page by page into the shredder since the supreme court verdict on 12 december 2000...

    Re: Altercating Again (none / 0) (#6)
    by Kevin Hayden on Sat Jun 24, 2006 at 03:58:05 AM EST
    Kudos to the Times! If this be a traitorous act, we need more traitors. It's not like any outside US enemies are surprised at this news. And isn't it ironic that the same day it's revealed they can monitor financial statements, Bush issues an Executive Order that claims he's protecting property rights, which has no practical impact beyond empty rhetoric. With Bush in charge our wallets, our bedrooms, our telephones, our websites and our mailboxes are forced to quarter nests of spies. It's time we return to the original waterboarding plan and dump all these taxers of our liberties into Boston Harbor.

    Re: Altercating Again (none / 0) (#7)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Jun 24, 2006 at 07:41:06 PM EST
    The left does everything in its power to provide aid and comfort to the enemies of the US and then wonders why it can't win elections. Amazing.

    Re: Altercating Again (none / 0) (#8)
    by jondee on Sat Jun 24, 2006 at 08:48:10 PM EST
    If you guys had such an overwhelming mandate, you wouldnt have to rely on low-ball b.s about gay marriage, abortion-clinics-on-every-corner, flag burners, and sex in the oval office. Anyone that acquieses to that kind of idiotic degrading of the democratic dialogue is giving "aid and comfort to our enemies."

    Re: Altercating Again (none / 0) (#9)
    by Edger on Sat Jun 24, 2006 at 09:05:51 PM EST
    OLDPUPPYMAX : The left does everything in its power to provide aid and comfort to the enemies of the US Can you give us any links showing the 'left' providing aid and comfort to the enemies of the US.
    You can't negotiate with these people, you can't try to talk sense to these people. The only way to deal with them is to find them and bring them to justice --George W. Bush
    Or even give us any examples of the 'left' giving aid and comfort to you?