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Rove's 2006 Election Strategy

By Jeralyn, Section Elections 2006
Posted on Fri Jun 16, 2006 at 11:54:16 PM EST
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The Washington Post paints a fairly glowing portrait of Karl Rove today. His involvement in PlameGate? No big deal. His position as chief architect of Bush's failed social security revamp? Water under the bridge. Bush's low poll numbers while he was in charge? So what? And no one will remember Harriet Who by 2006.

Now that we have the non-negatives out of the way, here is what uber-strategist Karl is planning for his 2006 election strategy:

He hopes to make the election a choice between the philosophies of the two parties, especially on national security, rather than a referendum on Bush's performance. He also aims to stoke the Republican base with such issues as tax cuts, same-sex marriage and judicial appointments.

In other words, a repeat of 2002 and 2004. Democrats shouldn't let him hunt with this old dog again. Make Rove spell I-r-a-q. Make him justify our attorney general who thinks it's okay to tap our e-mail and collect our phone records. Have him explain how gas prices went through the ceiling. Make him repeat that more than 2,500 American soldiers have died while the war on terror and Iraq are still in their infancy and their is no exit strategy for either.

The 2006 elections need to stay focused on Bush and the Republican's failed policies and dismal performance in office, not right-wing values.

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    Rove's 2006 Election Strategy | 49 comments (49 topical)
    Re: Rove's 2006 Election Strategy (none / 0) (#1)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Fri Jun 16, 2006 at 10:45:20 PM EST
    They think 2500 is just a number. I can't imagine being the mother of that soldier and hearing that my dead child is just a number to men who have not lost any kids.

    Re: Rove's 2006 Election Strategy (none / 0) (#2)
    by cpinva on Sat Jun 17, 2006 at 12:09:20 AM EST
    isn't this pretty much what they did in 2004? hey, it worked then!

    Re: Rove's 2006 Election Strategy (none / 0) (#3)
    by cpinva on Sat Jun 17, 2006 at 12:17:00 AM EST
    btw, who is it that keeps referring to the wp as a "liberal" paper?

    Re: Rove's 2006 Election Strategy (none / 0) (#4)
    by soccerdad on Sat Jun 17, 2006 at 03:07:01 AM EST
    Meanwhile, the Democratic strategy is to curl up in a fetal position in the corner, and this is before Rove starts attacking.

    Re: Rove's 2006 Election Strategy (none / 0) (#5)
    by Gabriel Malor on Sat Jun 17, 2006 at 04:52:06 AM EST
    I know you're just venting (or I hope so). But I don't think your policy prescriptions are all that great. "Make Rove spell I-R-A-Q." Yeah, well, maybe. Except that Iraq polls are going up from their low in the first part of this year. Getting the Zark-man is a big deal. Besides, when Democrats bring up Iraq it sounds like they want the US to lose. I don't think that's a winning strategy. "Make him justify our attorney general who thinks it's okay to tap our e-mail and collect our phone records." Weren't you paying attention!?! These policies have excellent support. The NSA story came out and Bush's numbers went up! Then the Democrats tried to emphasize the phone-company records story and that turned out to be a popular program, too! This is national security stuff, and it's exactly what Rove's going to use. He'll say, "See, we actually want to win." "Have him explain how gas prices went through the ceiling." But who really believes that the President can wave a magic wand and oil will flow from the skies? "Make him repeat that more than 2,500 American soldiers have died while the war on terror and Iraq are still in their infancy and their is no exit strategy for either." Again, "We deeply regret that blah, blah, blah...But we will win. We will not give up. We will not run away like those nancy-boy Dems." That's exactly what they'll say. And it will be a repeat of 2002 and 2004--where the Republicans won. The message has to change.

    Re: Rove's 2006 Election Strategy (none / 0) (#6)
    by Slado on Sat Jun 17, 2006 at 05:35:59 AM EST
    Ding, Ding, Ding. Right on Gabriel but what makes you think the dems will do anyting different this time? They can't even admit to themselves that they actually lost in 2000, 2202 and now 2004. They don't think its the message but the messenger and republican dirty tricks that costs them elections. Too many on the left and in the democratic party are still smarting over Gore, Iraq and 2004 to focus on the future. By screaming and arguing about decisions that have already been made they mire themselves in the past and the collective public realizes they have no plan for the future and no new ideas other then..."I wouldn't do that again". Didn't work in 2002, 2004 and it won't work in 2006 if they don't change their tune.

    Re: Rove's 2006 Election Strategy (none / 0) (#7)
    by The Heretik on Sat Jun 17, 2006 at 05:42:05 AM EST
    Yeah, what you said .

    Re: Rove's 2006 Election Strategy (none / 0) (#8)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Jun 17, 2006 at 05:55:56 AM EST
    Gabriel and Slado, you guys sound like the most cynical Democrats I've ever heard. You almost sound like re-thug-licans. You're wrong; it does matter that Gore and Kerry Lost because the no matter who the voters actually want, George Bush will always ink out a win. Remember what happened in the Ukraine in 2004? The exit polls proved that the people's votes were counted properly, so hundred of thousands of people protested in the streets. Meanwhile, the exit polls in America suggest a similar situation, but no one does anything about it. We need to do more about election reform than just calling democrats "sore losers". If everyone's votes are counted properly, this november we will easily gain AT LEAST 2 senate seats and control of the House. Don't you get it? Republicans can't govern and the American people are waking up to that fact.

    Re: Rove's 2006 Election Strategy (none / 0) (#9)
    by kdog on Sat Jun 17, 2006 at 05:56:29 AM EST
    The Dems shouldn't focus on Iraq...it's a loser. They should take a similat tactic as Clinton in 92...Are you better off than 8 years ago, or getting by with less? Americans don't lose sleep over dead soldiers or dead Iraqis...unfortunately. They lose sleep over how to pay their mortgage. That's the ticket to victory...slam the Repubs on their governing for the elite. Bring back the domestic issues like jobs, health care, class struggle, etc.

    Re: Rove's 2006 Election Strategy (none / 0) (#10)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Jun 17, 2006 at 05:57:48 AM EST
    ******i made a few errors in my last post, sry, i haven't gotten much sleep lately

    Re: Rove's 2006 Election Strategy (none / 0) (#11)
    by cpinva on Sat Jun 17, 2006 at 06:48:11 AM EST
    "Make Rove spell I-R-A-Q." Yeah, well, maybe. Except that Iraq polls are going up from their low in the first part of this year. Getting the Zark-man is a big deal. Besides, when Democrats bring up Iraq it sounds like they want the US to lose. I don't think that's a winning strategy.
    wrong. the dems should pound iraq, and its costs, both in lives and national treasure, down the throats of every american, every day of the week. they should point out the lies and deceptions used to get our people killed there, and the fact that the republicans haven't a clue how to get us out of there, with some semblance of honor, and more or less in one piece. none, zip, nada. these are the morons you want running the country?
    Make him justify our attorney general who thinks it's okay to tap our e-mail and collect our phone records." Weren't you paying attention!?! These policies have excellent support. The NSA story came out and Bush's numbers went up! Then the Democrats tried to emphasize the phone-company records story and that turned out to be a popular program, too! This is national security stuff, and it's exactly what Rove's going to use. He'll say, "See, we actually want to win."
    wrong again! it isn't a "popular" program, or have you been living in a cave? pound into people's brain the image of some sleazoid, with headphones, listening in to your phone call with your wife/gf, etc., and drooling over the good parts. pound it in over and over and over again. do it on talk shows, speeches, etc. call them liars to their faces. attack this unjustified assault on our privacy in print, on the air and in public speaking engagements.
    "Have him explain how gas prices went through the ceiling." But who really believes that the President can wave a magic wand and oil will flow from the skies?
    publicize, in print, on the air and in public speaking engagements, bush's close family connections with the oil bidness. attack him for his complacency and ineptitude during katrina, possibly helping to destroy some of the vital petroleum transport infrastructure helping to decrease available supplies. attack his association with the saudi royal family, and how they are getting rich off of our economic pain. attack his abject failure, aided and abetted by the oil industry, to clearly articulate an absolute need to develope alternate sources of energy, and not just digging into the negligable pools in the arctic. the repubs are his bretheran, they'll continue his failed policies, or rather, lack of any coherent policy, other than insuring that their oil buddies make lots of bucks.
    "Make him repeat that more than 2,500 American soldiers have died while the war on terror and Iraq are still in their infancy and their is no exit strategy for either." Again, "We deeply regret that blah, blah, blah...But we will win. We will not give up. We will not run away like those nancy-boy Dems." That's exactly what they'll say. And it will be a repeat of 2002 and 2004--where the Republicans won
    speaking of "nancy boys", when are the bush/cheney children signing up? pound their hypocrisy in their faces. bush and cheney riding out vietnam in style, while others fought in their place. beat it into the collective consciousness, hourly, daily, weekly. the cowards sending others into harm's way, for a pack of lies. geez, you guys have no imgination whatever. thank god you're not running anyone's campaign, they might as well just throw in the towel right now. the republicans have enough blood on their hands, literally and figuratively, that they should be easy pickings, in 2006 & 2008.

    Re: Rove's 2006 Election Strategy (none / 0) (#12)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Jun 17, 2006 at 09:23:03 AM EST
    The important part of all of this that's getting missed is not articulating differences, but getting OUR base off of its backside and to the polls. Poll after poll show our positions as not only popular, but in the mainstream. In the end, it means little if those espousing our beliefs don't go vote. Period. Getting out the vote should be as important if not MORE than articulating our views. Rove and his bunch know this. It's time we learned.

    Re: Rove's 2006 Election Strategy (none / 0) (#13)
    by Edger on Sat Jun 17, 2006 at 09:37:22 AM EST
    America has forged a Faustian Pact. It is inevitable that Mephistopheles will come to collect his due. Or perhaps he already has.
    If he hasn't, he'll be here after November if the country doesn't smarten up.

    Re: Rove's 2006 Election Strategy (none / 0) (#14)
    by squeaky on Sat Jun 17, 2006 at 10:18:42 AM EST
    Rove's new 16 point plan: 1. Stage Zawraqi capture and death. 2. Pump up the insurgency using Special Forces and mercs. Shut down oil production. 3.Rove slogan: al Qaida will take over America if Dems win 4. al-Muhajir new star terrorist in Iraq (foreigner) 5. New terror attack in America 6. All information is classified, even your elementary school report card. 7. Martial law is announced. 8. America is the new Iraq. Troops in the streets. 9. Rove: al Qaida has infiltrated Dem party. 10. Feingold, Reid, Clinton, Pelosi et al deemed enemy combatants. Arrested and sent to Gitmo. 11. Diebold recalls all voting machines for repair. 12. Gas prices top $15./gal. Bush works deal with big oil and the Saudis. Gas price lowered to $.99/gal. 13. Republicans sweep November elections. 14. State Secrets become a new constitutional amendment. 15. 22nd amendment repealed. 16. Bush named emperor. As a way to acknowledge all Rove has done for the Empire, Bush grants him ownership of the entire state of Louisiana. Court battles ensue. Deemed legal by SC because of an obscure provision under Napoleonic law which voids the Louisiana Purchase. Alito is the tiebreaker.

    Re: Rove's 2006 Election Strategy (none / 0) (#15)
    by Dadler on Sat Jun 17, 2006 at 10:38:46 AM EST
    How hard is it to counter the philosophy queston? Not very. You talk about the gross mistakes in Iraq and whether you want a party of gung-ho, bull in a china shop mentality, or a party that would've taken the Army War College and all the other researched and comprehensive plans for post war Iraq. Had Rummy and the Repubs not played the "they will welcome us with flowers" b.s., we'd not have had such a chaotic place to start with and to still deal with. The philosophy difference is between the Repubs "Listen to no one but your heart and screw the experts who've done all their work" or The Dems (which they should articulate LOUDLY) "Listen to experts and heed their expertise, and don't let your heart beat your brain into foreign policy idiocy. Then you pound the tax cuts mostly for the wealthy in WARTIME, how the American public is asked to sacrifice nothing in this effort, how gay marriage and flag burning are issues to roll one's eyes at -- since the majority of people do so at these two "pressing concerns". And then you go into corruption, outing CIA agents, and then you (if it were up to me) make a commerical of some of the best, most pointed bits from Colbert's correspondent's dinner. Seriously, when was the last time you saw a humorous satirical political ad or marketing stragegy? Never. Politics is a one-note game in this country, and the Repubs to their "credit" know how to bang the f*ck outta that one-note. The Dems have yet to utilize the scale of notes they possess as the supposedly more "liberal" party. This is all imagination work on the Dems' part, and they better start thinking hard and thinking now. Do I think they will? Not really.

    Re: Rove's 2006 Election Strategy (none / 0) (#16)
    by narius on Sat Jun 17, 2006 at 10:40:15 AM EST
    The Dems shouldn't focus on Iraq...it's a loser. They should take a similat tactic as Clinton in 92...Are you better off than 8 years ago, or getting by with less? Economy is growing. Umemployment is down. Recession is over. I doubt the dem has any leverage on economics issues. So many dem voted "yes" on the war resolution seems to show that they are not sure what to do with the iraq thing either. It is quite pathetic. At least Karl Rove seems to have a plan. What the dem has is whining.

    Re: Rove's 2006 Election Strategy (none / 0) (#17)
    by Dadler on Sat Jun 17, 2006 at 10:42:21 AM EST
    And in the ads I'd compile from the Colbert dinner speech excerpts, I'd intercut Ann Coulter and her raving, humorless, personality disorder rants about the Jersey Girls.

    Re: Rove's 2006 Election Strategy (none / 0) (#18)
    by Dadler on Sat Jun 17, 2006 at 10:56:26 AM EST
    Narius, Since the administration was manipulatng "intelligence" left and right to scare people into war, it's hard to look back at those votes with the degree of purity you do. Fear is a powerful tool. The administration used it very "well" and we see the results. Ask yourself how smart disbanding the Iraqi military was in light of the inevitable security disaster we continue to face. About the worst decision anyone could've possibly made in ANY "war" like this. It was the death blow to any chance we could've kept the country from descending into the security-bereft madness. And this is the product of a political philosophy Rove wants to trumpet??? Bring it on, Karl. If Dean's Dem Party is worth a damn, or half a damn, they should easily counter the empty arguments of the Repubs.

    Re: Rove's 2006 Election Strategy (none / 0) (#19)
    by narius on Sat Jun 17, 2006 at 11:12:18 AM EST
    Bring it on, Karl. If Dean's Dem Party is worth a damn, or half a damn, they should easily counter the empty arguments of the Repubs. That is the issue, right. I don't think the dem is worth a damn. Given all the blunders in Iraq (and I don't mean killing Iraqis or abusing the prisoners, I mean just not winning), the dem still seems to be so powerless. How many of them vote "yes" on the symbolic resolution yesterday (or was it day before) even now? I am sure Karl is going to bring it on with a co-ordinated plan. I will have to see if the dem has anything to counter it.

    Re: Rove's 2006 Election Strategy (none / 0) (#20)
    by scarshapedstar on Sat Jun 17, 2006 at 11:50:45 AM EST
    Except that Iraq polls are going up from their low in the first part of this year. Getting the Zark-man is a big deal.
    I stopped reading right there. All I could see was the Kool-Aid pitcher busting through a wall and shouting "OH YEAH!"

    Re: Rove's 2006 Election Strategy (none / 0) (#21)
    by Sailor on Sat Jun 17, 2006 at 01:20:36 PM EST
    Economy is growing. Umemployment is down. Recession is over
    None of those are true compared to clinton's term ... including "Recession is over" which is what clinton achieved after raygun's debacle. BTW, seen what ARM's are doing lately?

    Re: Rove's 2006 Election Strategy (none / 0) (#22)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sat Jun 17, 2006 at 06:06:39 PM EST
    Dadler writes:
    Ask yourself how smart disbanding the Iraqi military was in light of the inevitable security disaster we continue to face.
    Given that the Iraqi army was controlled by a Sunni government with Sunni officers, bureaucrats, etc., how about telling me how well the Shiite population would have reacted? Typical. Take something that looks simple, ignore the politics and then criticize continually. et al - Rove has one huge advantage. The Repubs get to run against Demos.

    Re: Rove's 2006 Election Strategy (none / 0) (#23)
    by Dark Avenger on Sat Jun 17, 2006 at 07:36:35 PM EST
    Given that the Iraqi army was controlled by a Sunni government with Sunni officers, bureaucrats, etc., how about telling me how well the Shiite population would have reacted? Given that we overthrew said Sunni government when we invaded, are you telling us that we couldn't have taken the control of the army because of the Sunni officers, etc? You have little faith in American abilities, PPJ. I don't know why someone like you is posting with the rest of us patriots here. Rove has one huge advantage. The Repubs get to run against Demos. The Demos get to run against a lot of Republicans in deep ethical doo-doo this year, that's their advantage. TTFN, PPJ.

    Re: Rove's 2006 Election Strategy (none / 0) (#24)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Jun 17, 2006 at 08:38:31 PM EST
    I think the Iraq War can be a good issue for the Dems (if they can somehow manage to grow a collective spine, that is). Right now, the Republicans in Congress are speaking with one voice and trying to frame the Iraq issue as "You're either for finishing the job or you're for cutting and running". I've seen variations of these words said by a wide variety of GOP people over the last week or so, and I'm led to ask, can the public see through this? See how overly simplistic it is, how it presents the public with a false dichotomy? I would like to think so. But in case the public doesn't, I think the Dems ought to drill home in unison a message about Iraq that counteracts the Repubs'. Something along the lines of "staying the course isn't a strategy, America needs leadership, a plan for getting out of Iraq, not empty slogans, etc." It might also be good to remind the public (and I think the majority of America understands this already) that A) the Iraq War hasn't made us any safer from the likes of Osama Bin Laden and B) Iraq is consuming funding that could be devoted to Homeland Security (can really take Bush to task for cutting NYC's Homeland Security funding) and port security. Two other issues that might work well for Dems: Republican corruption, and Republican incompetence (poor Iraq war planning, poor response to Katrina, badly mishandled budget/huge deficit).

    Re: Rove's 2006 Election Strategy (none / 0) (#25)
    by Gabriel Malor on Sun Jun 18, 2006 at 01:43:42 AM EST
    "Since the administration was manipulatng "intelligence" left and right to scare people into war, it's hard to look back at those votes with the degree of purity you do. Fear is a powerful tool. The administration used it very "well" and we see the results." Well, obviously I'm looking for different tactics than those that were used the last few times (y'know, those times where the Republicans won). For example, every time a Democrat says something like the above quote, the Republicans come back with "If that's true, then either 1) the Dems in Congress (who had access to much more information than the general public) were too dumb to sort fact from fiction; or 2) they were too weak to stick up for their principles. That's not an argument that can be won. Why are you trying to make it the main point of every election?

    Re: Rove's 2006 Election Strategy (none / 0) (#26)
    by Dadler on Sun Jun 18, 2006 at 01:02:28 PM EST
    Gabriel, Show me one concrete item of proof that shows that Dems in Congress had this knowledge you claims existed? Did Colin Powell not go to the UN and lie through his teeth, so much so that he resigned in disgust? If you read my posts above, you'll see plenty of other things that I suggest to campaign on, the Repubs dismal and deluded operation of this unecessary war of choice, including the death blow decision to disband the only security force in Iraq early on. That mistake cost us almost everything we're paying for now. It was this president, this party, this administration that has the operation and failures of this "war" on their sheet. They have shown their ignorance and lack of respect for experts, and their pie in the sky notions of what the rest of the world thinks of us and our warring -- remember we were going to be welcomed with flowers and peace? Hell, just make a commercial of all the times Bush has said idiotic things about the war that EVIDENCE is utter ignorance and disconnect. Mission accomplished, bring 'em on, dead or alive, yap yap yap. They are a reel of inanities, and deadly ones now that he's thrown a good part of the world into chaos, again by choice. There's plenty of easy ammo to go afther the (like, say, the f*cking obvious -- a cleand and renewable energy program meant to change things as quickly, as seriously as that which took us to the moon on Kennedy's challenge), it just takes putting up with their malevolent, slandering, childish bullsh*t and keeping at it to succeed. Have a good one.

    Re: Rove's 2006 Election Strategy (none / 0) (#27)
    by Dadler on Sun Jun 18, 2006 at 01:03:47 PM EST
    Jeez, nice typos. My apologies.

    Re: Rove's 2006 Election Strategy (none / 0) (#28)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sun Jun 18, 2006 at 03:23:15 PM EST
    Sailor, I'm a JFK Democrat. Bring on the tax cuts. Gone are the days when the Kennedys had any sense. Did you know that JFK ran to the right of Eisenhower on foreign policy and defence? Gone are the days....

    Re: Rove's 2006 Election Strategy (none / 0) (#29)
    by Ernesto Del Mundo on Sun Jun 18, 2006 at 03:36:14 PM EST
    Did you know that JFK ran to the right of Eisenhower on foreign policy and defence?
    Please tell that to PPJ...he still blames JFK for the Bay of Pigs fiasco.

    Re: Rove's 2006 Election Strategy (none / 0) (#30)
    by jondee on Sun Jun 18, 2006 at 03:42:06 PM EST
    Simon - What choice did he have after the public foreign policy dialogue had been dumbed-down to the narrow frame of who was "soft on communism" and who wasn't.

    Re: Rove's 2006 Election Strategy (none / 0) (#31)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sun Jun 18, 2006 at 03:46:43 PM EST
    Did you know why the Rs needed Eisenhower? Because they were to the left of the Dems on war and foreign policy during WW2. Americans like a muscular foreign policy.

    Re: Rove's 2006 Election Strategy (none / 0) (#32)
    by Ernesto Del Mundo on Sun Jun 18, 2006 at 03:47:12 PM EST
    Besides, we all know that Eisenhower was a commie.

    Re: Rove's 2006 Election Strategy (none / 0) (#33)
    by Sailor on Sun Jun 18, 2006 at 06:48:39 PM EST
    Aside from the fact that MSIMON just invoked Sailor's Law* does anyone else know what MSIMON is talking about? None of the points it brought up were relevant to the post. Just curious. *The index of desperation of the wrongwingers is the square of the number of times they invoke clinton or kennedy.

    Re: Rove's 2006 Election Strategy (none / 0) (#34)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sun Jun 18, 2006 at 07:09:06 PM EST
    Sailor, I'm trying to present historical precident for what Rove is doing. It has been done before by both parties. I was saying good things about Kennedy (well one of them at least). How does that fit? BTW it is now Simon's Law of the Causen Effect: The Causen Effect: Anything bad that happens is (name of current or former President)'s fault.

    Re: Rove's 2006 Election Strategy (none / 0) (#35)
    by jondee on Sun Jun 18, 2006 at 07:46:43 PM EST
    "Americans like a muscular foreign policy" And Hearst said I'll supply the war. You're going to have to be alot more specific.

    Re: Rove's 2006 Election Strategy (none / 0) (#36)
    by Sailor on Sun Jun 18, 2006 at 08:12:29 PM EST
    rove's strategy is to slime his oponent, and if the sclm didn't go along with it everytime it wouldn't work.

    Re: Rove's 2006 Election Strategy (none / 0) (#37)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sun Jun 18, 2006 at 08:58:31 PM EST
    Jondee June 18, 2006 04:42 PM, The Dems had a big problem in 1960. There were a lot of communist sympathizers in the party. They needed to go right to shake that in the minds of the electorate if not in reality. The Dems today have a similar problem. Warranted or not they are pegged as the party of defeat. Joe Liberman could help wth that except he is being purged. The Dems neet to get back to their Jacksonian Roots. That would be the Reagan Democrats. Progress is being made. Gun control is no longer a litmus test. It is not far enough.

    Re: Rove's 2006 Election Strategy (none / 0) (#38)
    by jondee on Sun Jun 18, 2006 at 09:14:57 PM EST
    Simon - Yesterday you seemed to be attempting to tar some here as anti-semitic. Yet today you link to a site that favorably quotes, of all the people to quote, an Imperial Wizard of the KKK. Physician heal thyself.

    Re: Rove's 2006 Election Strategy (none / 0) (#39)
    by jondee on Sun Jun 18, 2006 at 09:22:22 PM EST
    Btw, Brother Jim has already been generous enough to provide us with that very same link on numerous occasions. Let it never be said that you guys dont stay on the same page. Always.

    Re: Rove's 2006 Election Strategy (none / 0) (#40)
    by squeaky on Sun Jun 18, 2006 at 09:24:04 PM EST
    M.Simon and ppj both revere the same racist screed. Very funny. A Jacksonian coincidence? M.Simon-You efforts to help?? Obviously you are the one in need of help.

    Re: Rove's 2006 Election Strategy (none / 0) (#41)
    by jondee on Sun Jun 18, 2006 at 09:32:34 PM EST
    Just dont link to anyone that favorably quotes Heinrich Himmler. We have our limits here.

    Re: Rove's 2006 Election Strategy (none / 0) (#42)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sun Jun 18, 2006 at 09:36:51 PM EST
    Sailor, Rove has specific slime recipes. One of them is "weak on defence". It works because: 1. It is in part true 2. It is not what Americans who vote want (mostly). (I note it took Republicans 60 some years in the wilderness before they figured out a winning Congressional coalitiion - so the Dems still have 40+ years to go)

    Re: Rove's 2006 Election Strategy (none / 0) (#43)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sun Jun 18, 2006 at 09:46:28 PM EST
    Squeaky, More Republicans voted for the '64 Civil Rights act than Democrats. Wilson was a Kluxer and a Democrat. And of course the highly revered Byrd. So slinging that racist crap doesn't cut it. I did my marching, petioning, and letter writing in the 50s, before I was old enough to vote. When I was old enough to vote for many years it was straight Dem. But hey, if the Dems don't want my vote the Rs don't feel the same way. I note that so far no one has taken me up on my offer re: the drug war. No surprise.

    Re: Rove's 2006 Election Strategy (none / 0) (#44)
    by Ernesto Del Mundo on Sun Jun 18, 2006 at 09:57:28 PM EST
    More Republicans voted for the '64 Civil Rights act than Democrats.
    Amd aint it funny how the Democrats that voted against it became Republicans? M. Simon aka PPJ Redux

    Re: Rove's 2006 Election Strategy (none / 0) (#46)
    by jondee on Sun Jun 18, 2006 at 10:03:13 PM EST
    Simon - apparently you're the only one with slinging rights at this site. How does it feel?

    Re: Rove's 2006 Election Strategy (none / 0) (#45)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sun Jun 18, 2006 at 10:07:42 PM EST
    deleted. This commenter is limited to four comments a day.

    Re: Rove's 2006 Election Strategy (none / 0) (#47)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sun Jun 18, 2006 at 10:09:18 PM EST
    Ernesto, Like them or hate them, it is hard to win elections without them. BTW I haven't heard of any Republican Kluxers lately (Thurmond is gone). The Dems still have Byrd. No party is pure. In any case anti-black racism does not seem to be a big election theme. Even the anti-Mexican stuff (for which the Rs ought to be ashamed) is mostly limited to illegals.

    Re: Rove's 2006 Election Strategy (none / 0) (#48)
    by Ernesto Del Mundo on Sun Jun 18, 2006 at 10:40:52 PM EST
    Like them or hate them, it is hard to win elections without them.
    Without racists? So you are suggesting the Democrats do what, advocate bringing back Jim Crow?
    In any case anti-black racism does not seem to be a big election theme.
    Google "2000 South Carolina primary". It still works, and Rove is a master of exploiting ignorance, fears, and prejudices, but we can hope that perhaps people will eventually tire of voting against their own economic self interests.

    Re: Rove's 2006 Election Strategy (none / 0) (#49)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Tue Jun 27, 2006 at 02:09:56 AM EST
    Could you repost my comment? I only put up one yesterday. LOL. BTW thanks for the special privlidges. I didn't know I was hurting you so bad. LOL. Probably banned for good now. LOL. BTW this Republican leaning voter is winnable (I voted Obama over Keyes - can't stand theocons). However, if you are not interested in my support then so be it. I'm advising every one I know to leave the small tent and vote straight Republican. LOL.

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