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Federalist Fun With the KKK

by TChris

Not funny:

"Today when most of the country thinks of who controls Massachusetts, I think the modern-day KKK comes to mind - the Kennedy-Kerry Klan."

Gerald Walpin, a Federalist Society board member, made the remark while introducing Gov. Mitt Romney. Although Romney “laughed along with the audience and thanked Walpin for ‘a very generous introduction,’” Romney later came to his senses, acknowledging in a press interview that the comments were "ill-advised":

"It's not appropriate to joke about the Ku Klux Klan," Romney said.

No kidding.

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    Re: Federalist Fun With the KKK (none / 0) (#1)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:05:59 PM EST
    Please...PLEASE...say someone has videotape of this!

    Re: Federalist Fun With the KKK (none / 0) (#2)
    by pigwiggle on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:06:00 PM EST
    This kind of crap doesn’t belong in politics. Next think you know we’ll have folks on the senate floor casting each other in the mold of Nazis.

    Re: Federalist Fun With the KKK (none / 0) (#3)
    by roy on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:06:00 PM EST
    Aren't Jews allowed to joke about the KKK?

    Re: Federalist Fun With the KKK (none / 0) (#4)
    by Sailor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:06:00 PM EST
    Walpin said Friday he had no regrets about the comment.


    Re: Federalist Fun With the KKK (none / 0) (#5)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:06:00 PM EST
    Gee, looks like whatever Dean is suffering from has spread. Besides, haven't you heard of Senator Byrd? The only memeber of Congress who was a KKK memeber? BTW - Has anyone every actually seen Byrd's resignation letter?

    Re: Federalist Fun With the KKK (none / 0) (#6)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:06:00 PM EST
    Well, there you go, roy. That was a short honeymoon. Let's wait until the KKK murders your family members, and then see how flippant about that DISEASE you are then, OK? There have been SIXTY major terrorist plots by white supremacist groups in the United States in the last ten years. SIX a year. Here's the most recent one listed by SPLC:
    Oct. 25, 2004 FBI agents in Tennessee arrest farmhand Demetrius "Van" Crocker after he allegedly tried to purchase ingredients for deadly sarin nerve gas and C-4 plastic explosives from an undercover agent. The FBI alleges that Crocker, who local officials say was involved in a white supremacist group in the 1980s, tells the agent that he admires Hitler and hates Jews and the government. He allegedly also says "it would be a good thing if somebody could detonate some sort of weapon of mass destruction on Washington, D.C."
    SIX TERROR PLOTS A YEAR BY WHITE SUPREMACISTS

    Re: Federalist Fun With the KKK (none / 0) (#7)
    by roy on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:06:00 PM EST
    I call dibs on pointing out the first commenter who calls people Klan-supporters here and complains about Walpin.

    Re: Federalist Fun With the KKK (none / 0) (#8)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:06:00 PM EST
    Posted by Jim: "Besides, haven't you heard of Senator Byrd? The only memeber of Congress who was a KKK memeber?" That's hilarious. You don't know that Strom Thurman was a KKK member? The number of racist CCC or KKK members in the US Congress has been HUGE. What a pathetic talking point liar, doing his toady best to flippantly disregard attacks on our freedoms and our safety, in favor of attacking a disarmed country and his racist pet targets. Ptui!

    Re: Federalist Fun With the KKK (none / 0) (#9)
    by jimcee on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:06:00 PM EST
    Actually, the KKK is a joke but it certainly isn't to the PC speech police. What's funnier than a bunch of toothless trogs dressed in laundry being run off by gang members in Toledo. That is funny. When one listens to Kennedy or Kerry and thier strident demogogery it is kind of reflective of the rhetoric of the Knights of Jim Crow. Ignorant rants that are just red-meat for a head nodding, slack-jawed audience. But if you are offended, its fine by me but you guys are always offended by something, so it isn't a suprise.

    Re: Federalist Fun With the KKK (none / 0) (#10)
    by Sailor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:06:00 PM EST
    Actually, the KKK is a joke
    In my state, the KKK lynched folks, still burn crosses on their lawn and burn churches.

    Re: Federalist Fun With the KKK (none / 0) (#11)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:06:00 PM EST
    The KKK just managed to set off a riot in Michigan. They and other white supremacist groups continue to plot terrorist attacks on our families. Jimcee says that's a joke. Then he says that Kerry or Kennedy is like the KKK, and we liberals are always offended at something. Did somebody have a bad week? Did somebody rain on your parade? Poor baby. What a pathetic troll.

    Re: Federalist Fun With the KKK (none / 0) (#12)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:06:00 PM EST
    Sailor writes:
    In my state, the KKK lynched folks, still burn crosses on their lawn and burn churches.
    How about some proof on the churches being burned? PIL - Senator Byrd is very much alive and well in the US Senate as a Democrat icon. As he said: "Pity, Pity, Pity."

    Re: Federalist Fun With the KKK (none / 0) (#13)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:06:00 PM EST
    Posted by Jim: "How about some proof on the churches being burned?" How about the bombing of Martin Luther King Jr.'s house? Is that good enough for you? And not Molotov -- dynamite. "PIL - Senator Byrd is very much alive and well in the US Senate as a Democrat icon." It may surprise you that I am not a member of the Robert Byrd fan club. I don't have any racists who are my heroes. But your knowledge of American gov't is utterly shallow if you don't know that the Senate Dems were RACISTS since the Civil War, and that Bush is a racist too, along with his pal Haley Barbour, governor of Mississippi, head of the CCC, and GRAND WIZARD of the KKK. Just because I'm a democrat that doesn't mean that I have to idolize all democrats. Southern democrats, like Joe Lieberman, are generally speaking, Republicans in sheep's clothing. Just as ANYONE who supports the fradulent GWB is a RINO, Jim. You're in the Rightwing Party now, buster.

    Re: Federalist Fun With the KKK (none / 0) (#14)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:06:00 PM EST
    PIL - Sailor wrote in the "present tense" about churches being burned down. Now, is answering that question to hard for you, or do you want to try and avoid it by trying to throw up a strawman. You are funny. And you spew pure bull sh*t.
    along with his pal Haley Barbour, governor of Mississippi, head of the CCC, and GRAND WIZARD of the KKK.
    Did you ever wonder why no one takes you serious after they have been around you for a while?

    Re: Federalist Fun With the KKK (none / 0) (#15)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:06:00 PM EST
    What's a little racsim between (Republican) friends!? Hey, some of my best friends are Republicans (no, not really). Mighty white of Romney to distance himself from this heinous allusion after he's had his fill of yucking it up! What a guy!

    Re: Federalist Fun With the KKK (none / 0) (#16)
    by pigwiggle on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:06:01 PM EST
    “What's a little racsim between (Republican) friends!? .. Mighty white of Romney to distance himself from this heinous allusion ...”
    What am I missing; I thought the allusion to the KKK was an insult. I mean, it’s not black face or Oreo stoning. So, to pinch the Lavocat branded turn of phrase; Mighty black of you to … no, leaves a sick taste in my mouth.

    Re: Federalist Fun With the KKK (none / 0) (#17)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:06:01 PM EST
    Posted by Jim: "PIL - Sailor wrote in the "present tense" about churches being burned down." I didn't read it that way. Nonetheless,
    April 1, 2004 Neo-Nazi Skinhead Sean Gillespie videotapes himself as he firebombs Temple B'nai Israel, an Oklahoma City synagogue, as part of a film he is preparing to inspire other racists to violent revolution. In it, Gillespie boasts that instead of merely pronouncing the white-supremacist "14 Words" slogan ("We must secure the existence of our people and a future for White children"), he will carry out 14 violent attacks. A former member of the neo-Nazi Aryan Nations, Gillespie is found guilty of the attack and faces a minimum 35-year sentence without parole. Oct. 13, 2004 Ivan Duane Braden, a former National Guardsman discharged from an Iraq-bound unit after superiors noted signs of instability, is arrested after checking into a mental health facility and telling counselors about plans to blow up a synagogue and a National Guard armory in Tennessee. The FBI reports that Braden told them he'd planned to go to a synagogue wearing a trench coat stuffed with explosives and get himself "as close to children and the rabbi as possible," a plan Braden also outlined in notes found in his home. In addition, he intended to take and kill hostages at the Lenoir City Armory, before blowing the armory up. Eventually, Braden, who also possessed neo-Nazi literature and reportedly hated blacks and Jews from an early age, pleads guilty to conspiring to blow up the armory. He faces a mandatory 10-year minimum prison sentence on two separate charges.
    "Haley Barbour, governor of Mississippi, head of the CCC, and GRAND WIZARD of the KKK." If you don't know that Barbour is the head of the CCC, then you are just ignorant. If you don't understand that the CCC, an extension of the infamous Christian Citizens' Councils of the 1900s, is a front for the KKK, then you are also too dumb to get a dumb joke (CCC = KKK, get it?). And if you don't think Barbour is a racist and a Grand Wizard, well then, ask him to lift his hood at the next rally, and you'll see what is already obvious to most with your own two eyes.

    Re: Federalist Fun With the KKK (none / 0) (#18)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:06:01 PM EST
    Links PIL. Links. BTW - It appearas that Braden was so dangerous he checked himself into a mental health clinic seeking help, if the story is true.Now, if we could get a few Moslem radicals to do that. LinksPIL, Links. I also note, again. That the subject was the KKK, not nutty individuals. Sailor wrote:
    In my state, the KKK lynched folks, still burn crosses on their lawn and burn churches.
    And no, I have seen no information that would lead me to believe that CCC=KKK. Again, links to reputable sources would help your cause.

    Re: Federalist Fun With the KKK (none / 0) (#19)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:06:01 PM EST
    Again, links to reputable sources would help your cause.
    Why should anyone bother providing links to you, Jim? When you are asked for them, you provide brilliant responses like "prove it's not". An especially pathetic response, considering you were simply being asked to substantiate an allegtation you made. TTFN, trollus jimus. (BTW- Your egg was laid at September 24, 2005 08:14 AM.)

    Re: Federalist Fun With the KKK (none / 0) (#20)
    by Sailor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:06:01 PM EST
    National Coalition for Burned Churches and Community Empowerment PO Box 40784 Charleston, SC 29423 Tel (843) 853-5363, Fax (843) 853-5366 E-mail: ncfbccp@aol.com
    try here, here,here, and here. You might also want to contact the National Church Arson Task Force and ask them about the klan burning crosses and churches.

    Re: Federalist Fun With the KKK (none / 0) (#21)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:06:01 PM EST
    PPJ - not only haven't you changed but your personal attacks and blatant disregard for, well, reality - even when the facts are in front of you, but you seem to still have free reign to cavort on people's deeply held beliefs with impunity. I hate to give you the credit, but you are the main reason I comment much less at TL - if I wanted to be belittled, disregarded and made to feel stupid and worthless I'd move back into my parents house. You have demonstrated your usual transparent MO of challenging the accuser when the facts don't suit you.... or just changing the subject. Even DeLay would disown himself from your lies and typed spewtum (?). You contribute nothing to the dialog, just get in the way of progressive dialog. Paui in LA, thanks for your comments - you often save me the trouble of typing my own. PPJ - Go start your own blog - you're on this one enough. Then let's see how many fans YOU have.

    Re: Federalist Fun With the KKK (none / 0) (#22)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:06:01 PM EST
    With that said, I live in MA. Romney is a twit. He is forever putting forth opinions and policy in MA trying to limit a woman's right to an abortion, keep gay people from getting married, limit greenspace, abet the corrupt feeding frenzy we call the Big Dig by not taking action and limit a prisoners right to medicine, medical treatment and a complaint process. Under the Govenor's watch we had a Superbowl riot downtown and an innocent girl killed by police in a mis-directed reaction to the first event. Romney got elected on his business connections/Olympic Committee experience and has failed to fulfill his big promise of using his connections to bring businesses to Massachusetts. It is common knowledge that Romney is using this Govenorship as a springboard to a presidential bid, and obvious that he doesn't give a sh-t about MA. He will not carry this state if he runs. His sucking up to the hard right and the moderates is old news - but now folks have caught him sneaking around with the religious right. He's not doing very well at explaining himself here. Re: The KKK and Hitler, there are a lot of bad people who are actively carrying on the legacy and the deeds. You sound like a Jim Crow Judge, PPJ, crowing his disapproval that a white man is accused of racist actions: "Where's the Proof" he roars, while everyone in the courtroom knows the proof is in there hearts and all around.

    Re: Federalist Fun With the KKK (none / 0) (#23)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:06:01 PM EST
    Posted by Jim: "Links PIL. Links." Missing links supplied, you still ignore the facts. The link is in my first comment (at top of page).

    Re: Federalist Fun With the KKK (none / 0) (#24)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:06:02 PM EST
    mfox: "Paui in LA, thanks for your comments - you often save me the trouble of typing my own." Please continue to return the favor. Jim is a useful/useless idiot. He just failed the CCC=KKK IQ test...I wonder why?
    The 'Uptown Klan' Reborn Political influence has always been a point of pride for the Council of Conservative Citizens. Founded in 1985 by Gordon Baum, a worker's compensation attorney and longtime white-power activist, the CCC rose from the ashes of the Citizens Councils of America (CCA), a coalition of white-supremacist groups formed throughout the South to defend school segregation after the Supreme Court outlawed it in Brown vs. Board of Education. link Over the past 20 years, Barbour has served in the Reagan Administration, been one of the most effective lobbyists on Capitol Hill, was the former chair of the Republican National Committee, and in 2000 chaired the Bush for President Campaign Advisory Committee. Both men are also connected to the Council of Conservative Citizens (CCC). link "Both men" refers to Trent Lott and Haley Barbour.
    As for 'Grand Wizard,' you'll have to refer to your 2005-2006 Membership Roster for his current status.

    Re: Federalist Fun With the KKK (none / 0) (#25)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:06:02 PM EST
    Btw, all...don't miss the first link (Uptown Klan Reborn) above -- it's a doozy.

    Re: Federalist Fun With the KKK (none / 0) (#26)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:06:02 PM EST
    Flexing Their Muscles The CCC's increasingly bald extremism hasn't just been rhetorical. This spring, national officer Sam Dickson, an attorney, represented the Council at neo-Nazi David Duke's prison-release party in New Orleans. Along with leaders of America's neo-Nazi and Holocaust-denial movements, Dickson signed Duke's "New Orleans Protocol," pledging to work with other hate groups to achieve their collective dream of a white America. (from above link)
    "I personally take considerable satisfaction in the New Orleans Protocol as I have promoted and practised the policy of "no enemy on the right" in Canada for the past 20 years. – Paul Fromm commment on New Orleans Protocol, on stormfront (a racist website)
    Among those signing the Protocol at the meeting were: • Duke, former Klansman and now leader of European-American Unity and Rights Organization (EURO); • Don Black, a former Klan leader and the creator of Stormfront, the Internet's first and most influential hate website; • Willis Carto, a primary architect of the Holocaust denial movement in this country; • Kevin Strom and David Pringle of the neo-Nazi National Alliance, the organization whose founder inspired the Oklahoma City bombing; • Paul Fromm, head of the Canadian Association of Free Expression, a vehemently anti-immigrant organization; • Attorney Sam G. Dickson of the white supremacist Council of Conservative Citizens (CCC); and • John Tyndall, founder of the racist British National Party. link • Jim
    There will be no comment from Jim -- he doesn't reply once defeated rhetorically, but prefers to ramp up his LIES and DELUSIONS on the next thread, with no recollection of having been trounced or disproven. You want to know where the rightwing/KKK gets its organization? This is one major part of it. GWB is a member of the CCC/KKK. He has fundraised extensively from this network of racist traitors. "No Enemy on the Right." Zeig Heil.

    Re: Federalist Fun With the KKK (none / 0) (#27)
    by glanton on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:06:02 PM EST
    "There will be no comment from Jim -- he doesn't reply once defeated rhetorically" You're probably right, but that isn't necessarily the only way it could go down. He might pop back in and take an unsubstantiated shot at your sources, perhaps in the process quoting the far more reliable and scholarly voices of the New York Post or Powerline or the National Enquirer. Anyway, thanks for the links. They are striking but not really that surprising, when you think about it.

    Re: Federalist Fun With the KKK (none / 0) (#28)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:06:02 PM EST
    DAMNABLE, not surprising. The jocular reference to the KKK TERRORISTS is so intolerable to me that it reminds in clear black print what LIARS these supposedly American wingers are about Osama Bin Laden -- their bosom buddy; their kissing cousin. It is damn shocking and utterly repugnant to wade through the (at first denied, soon to be reveled in) RACISM of rightwing posters who come here to derrail any rational discussion of social and legal trends on TL. They come to disrupt, stay to disgust, and depart, still proud of their hateful insanity. Thank you, glanton, for some of your recent comments.

    Re: Federalist Fun With the KKK (none / 0) (#29)
    by Edger on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:06:02 PM EST
    actor212: Please...PLEASE...say someone has videotape of this! Courtesy of WHDH-TV Boston: 7 New England News: 11/11/2005

    Re: Federalist Fun With the KKK (none / 0) (#30)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:06:02 PM EST
    PIL - No comment? That's funny, and the one thing that everyone knows to be BS. I don't run from a fight. Never have, never will. Show us some examples, PIL. You can't. Like Squeaky though, you don't worry about smearing. mfox - Girl. Glad to see you back with your usual attacks. I note you never show up unless you can "pile on." I think that's because I've zapped you with facts, several times. glanton - Sources from PIL? By golly he did provide two... wow. Sailor - Well one link did have some information about burning two churches. So, I concede the point. There are still KKK people out there burning some churches. et al - As ex-klansman and Democrat icon Senator Byrd said, "Pity. Pity. Pity." PIL special - You wouldn't know racism if it was hanging off the end of your nose. Darkly - You say something? TaTa - I'm off to follow and check some of the links. I'll let you know if I find something interesting...

    Re: Federalist Fun With the KKK (none / 0) (#31)
    by glanton on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:06:02 PM EST
    "Sources from PIL? By golly he did provide two... wow." Yeah, and most damnable, you refuse to acknowledge his point. Why are you afraid to admit you were wrong? You don't have to kiss his ass or anything, just say hey, you were right, this CCC is a racist organization and I disavow it. How hard is that? If you're half the man I think you are, you'll give credit where credit is due.

    Re: Federalist Fun With the KKK (none / 0) (#32)
    by glanton on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:06:02 PM EST
    Paul in LA: We have sparred before. We will spar again. Doesn't mean I don't recognize you as a great Patriot. Indeed, I wish I had as much faith in the American people as you do. Keep fighting the good fight. Cynics like me never effected half as much change as believers like you.

    Re: Federalist Fun With the KKK (none / 0) (#33)
    by Aaron on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:06:02 PM EST
    You can bet this isn't the only joke that Federalist Society members make about the KKK... they just don't usually do it in public. Just get a bunch of old white male conservatives into any room together and sooner or later you'll find out exactly what they really think about, African Americans, women, homosexuals etc.

    Re: Federalist Fun With the KKK (none / 0) (#34)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:06:03 PM EST
    Glanton -- didn't you see Jim run from the fight? "Posted by Jim: "Links PIL. Links." "Missing links supplied, you still ignore the facts." He is a master of nonresponsiveness. He COUNTS the number of links, instead of discussing what is in them. He blusters and puffs, and then he pretends he's a hero for failing to have anything responsive to say.

    Re: Federalist Fun With the KKK (none / 0) (#35)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:06:03 PM EST
    PIL - You are grasping for straws. This isn't TV where people sit in boxes at predetermined times. Most of us actually have a life beyond politics and the Internet, perhaps you don't. So we may not be there to meet your needs exactly when you want them met. That you make a big deal out of me not immediately responding reveals, defines and absolutely proves the fact that many of your actions are juvenile. Repeat after me, PIL. "PPJ is NOT my Daddy." (Thank God.) Glanton - I conceded Sailor's point, although I probably should have done more research, given the fact that Clinton's comment about black churches burning was disproven a few years back. It has my interest, I'll look further, WHEN I HAVE TIME. (I am probably the only person here who ever concedes a point, and I always provide links that are just wiffed off the Left, even if they quote Senate Intelligence Committees...) As for PIL, he is one of the most proflic poster around, and one of the worst at providing links. He complains that I count them. I don't, but if I did he would be found lacking. His point? I still don't associate the CCC with the KKK. I don't think Barbour is a racist. He can babble all he wants, but I don't. I regard the KKK as damnable, but marginalized. It is used as an example by the Left to get the base juiced up and chanting. Nothing new or unusual there. That was what Sailor was doing.

    Re: Federalist Fun With the KKK (none / 0) (#36)
    by glanton on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:06:03 PM EST
    "I am probably the only person here who ever concedes a point" I cheerfully cede that you are one of the only ones, which is a big part of why I enjoy debating you--but let's not aggrandize too much. There are several others who will cede points. Obviously, on very large questions, such as a stance on reproductive rights or the war in Iraq, none of us have substantively changed. In that I suppose we mirror the nation as a whole. "I still don't associate the CCC with the KKK." Well, that's depressing. Obviously the two are not one and the same, but if you're not even willing to associate them, then you're just being intentionally obtuse. Is Barbour as racist? I say the same thing about him I said about Lott: I don't know what's in his heart, but I, not blind, can well see the nature of the policies he supports and--especially-- the confederate swastika bearing base from which he derives so much of his power.

    Re: Federalist Fun With the KKK (none / 0) (#37)
    by glanton on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:06:03 PM EST
    And, PPJ, like you, I have a lot more going on than blogging. Thank the heavens for that! Thus, I cannot provide you with a litany of examples of where others have conceded points, though I have seen it. Kdog, jchfleetguy, pigwiggle, roy, justpaul, mfox, yourself, sarcastic unnamed one and BB come to mind right off the bat, but surely there are many others. As for me, pigwiggle recently busted me into admitting that indeed, a homosexual being thrown in jail for sodomy, sans _Lawrence v Texas_, would today be about as frequent as a man being struck by lightning. Lavocat also busted me for giving the Democratic Party too much credit in general. Further back, sarcastic unnamed one painfully extracted an admission from me that, following the 2004 elections, I had used unconscionsably harsh rhetoric in my depictions of American Christians. I also once had to apologize for saying, in the 80s, that I'd pull for the Soviet Union over Dook, if the two ever played basketball against one another.

    Re: Federalist Fun With the KKK (none / 0) (#38)
    by pigwiggle on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:06:03 PM EST
    I can’t believe the folks that have interpreted his remark as an endorsement of the klan. Straight up stupid. I’ll give you all the benefit and assume you’re desperately trying to further a prejudice of conservatives in place of, you know, being absolute f*cking morons.

    Re: Federalist Fun With the KKK (none / 0) (#39)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:06:03 PM EST
    pigwiggle - The Left understands that it was not an endorsement. But when did facts ever slow them down? glanton - Not being obtuse, I just don't remember them.

    Re: Federalist Fun With the KKK (none / 0) (#40)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:06:03 PM EST
    Jim, sputtering: "Most of us actually have a life beyond politics and the Internet, perhaps you don't." Hilarious, Jim. You don't have ANYTHING to say that isn't a talking point. Now you want to poor baby yourself out of having defended the KKK, and lost. pigwiggle comes back wondering about the endorsement of the klan by the modern GOP. Ever hear about Haley Barbour and Trent Lott? They speak to the KKK/CCC on a regular basis, good ole boys. Not only does Bush endorse the KKK, he's a member. The issue wasn't endorsement, it is joking about the KKK. It AIN'T FUNNY. Just like Taliban al-Reilly, who invites the AQ to bomb SF, or Taliban an-Coulter, who thinks it would be swell to bomb the NYT. The thug defenders don't have any arguments. All they have is a few choice labels, on an empty suit.

    Re: Federalist Fun With the KKK (none / 0) (#41)
    by squeaky on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:06:03 PM EST
    ppj-Switch KKK for Nazi and see how it sounds. Big joke right. Hahaha. Oh, that is right, you liked the Nazis so you would make the same moronic comment if Walpin 'joked' about them instead of the KKK. Guess you are not Black or Jewish, although you seem to be quite the 'historian' when it comes to the clan. Bet you can name all the grand wizards from day one. How is your Nazi history, does it go back to the freikorps?

    Re: Federalist Fun With the KKK (none / 0) (#42)
    by Sailor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:06:04 PM EST
    I can’t believe the folks that have interpreted his remark as an endorsement of the klan.
    No one ever said that. A member of the FedSoc equated dems with the klan. There was understandable objection to this, even romney (for whatever reason) objected to this characterization. The klan is only 'marginalized' because a spotlight keeps being shined on their activities. But they still burn churches and crosses. It is especially troublesome that the US hasn't declared them a terrorist organization and arrested everyone who donates to them, but to bushco, you're only a terrorist if you're brown.