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Opposing Hate Crime Laws

Here are some arguments against legislation to increase criminal penalties for hate crimes at the federal level--they come from an article I wrote in 2000, (from the last paragraph, I assume it was sometime after the murder of Matthew Shephard):

  • The federal judiciary released a statement recently expressing constitutional and practical concerns about hate crime laws. The underlying criminal activity of a hate crime, such as robbery, assault, or murder, traditionally falls under state jurisdiction. The concern is that by passing federal hate crime laws, there will be a mass federalization of crime which should and could be adequately handled at the state level instead of overburdening our already overwhelmed federal courts.
  • There is no evidence to suggest that hate crime laws will have a deterrent effect upon hate crimes.
  • In many cases, it is very difficult to prove a hateful motivation for the criminal act. The decision to charge a hate crime as such should not be left to law enforcement. The F.B.I., for example, includes gestures and other body language in its hate crime statistics. Prosecutions to date in some cases have been based upon bigoted statements made several years before the act in question.

  • There are already sufficient criminal laws and penalties on the books to punish hate crimes. We should punish the act, not the thought process of the actor. If these acts are inadequately prosecuted and punished when the victim is of a minority or disadvantaged class, the answer lies in increased education and sensitization of law enforcement and the judiciary.
  • Since 41 states already have hate crime laws, expanding federal laws in this area could result in double prosecution in many instances, with the federal government following up in cases where they simply do not like the results in state trials.
  • The gender provision of the proposed federal expansion bill could make run-of-the-mill rape and domestic violence incidents “federal hate crimes.” The disability provision could result in basic crimes against disabled victims -- such as mugging a person in a wheelchair -- being prosecuted as “federal hate crimes.” The result risked is a trivialization of the federal criminal sanction.
  • Thought is the core value of the First Amendment’s freedom of speech clause. It is absolutely protected and any attempt to regulate it cannot be tolerated.
  • In many cases, enhanced penalties are not even possible. In most states, the penalty for murder is life in prison, and in many, the death penalty is already available.
  • Granting increased powers of investigation to federal officials over our thought processes to prove bias and prejudice will become exceedingly Orwellian. Do we want to authorize the subpoena of book store records so that the fact that our spouse owns, say, a copy of The Turner Diaries can be used against him or her to prove the requisite mental intent for a hate crime?
  • Do we want to support laws that will increase the investigator’s search and seizure powers into the sanctity of our houses, property and personal effects, which is guaranteed to us by the Fourth Amendment to the Constitution?

Conclusion: More Study is Needed

Crimes committed out of hatred or bigotry toward the characteristics of any individual or group cannot be tolerated. They must be condemned in the strongest possible language. Law enforcement must be encouraged to prosecute such crimes to the fullest extent of our criminal laws. Yet, whether we should enact more criminal laws with stiffer penalties and which would authorize greater intrusion into our constitutionally protected areas of free speech, free thought, free association, and personal privacy, is a matter that should be studied carefully and thoroughly before any action is taken.

Legislation expanding the current federal hate crime law, and the role of the federal government in prosecuting such crime, threatens to erode our cherished individual rights to free speech, thought and association, the right to privacy, and the right to Justice and Due Process of law (including fair trials and punishments).

Let us not enact laws out of grief and passion, or in response to a singular criminal event, however horrific it might be. Cooler heads are needed where our fundamental liberties are at stake.

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    Re: Opposing Hate Crime Laws (none / 0) (#1)
    by peacrevol on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:51 PM EST
    What in the hell is a hate crime? If someone kills somebody else, they're usually not doing it because they love them.

    Re: Opposing Hate Crime Laws (none / 0) (#2)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:51 PM EST
    I love when people address an issue from strictly one perspective. Yes, generally, if someone intentionally kills someone they probably "hated" them at that moment. That is why the term "hate" should have never been used for these crimes...it was an horrific word choice. The original "bias" is much more productive. Killing someone because at that moment you have a reason to personally hate them is quite different from what actually happens in bias motivated homicides. There is rarely any personal connection between these individuals (more often than not, they have not even interacted outside of the incident)...killing someone because of what they represent (or are believed to represent) is a completely unique type of incident. Furthermore, these laws DO NOT regulate free speech or free though. There is no right to violently acting out your words or thoughts against other people. In terms of federal assistance, that is where these laws have their strongest impact. There are many bias-motivated incidents that occur in areas that do not have the necessary resources to investigate an incident that could become very expensive and technical -- especially with media scrutiny. Additionally, as much as people may not want to admit it or talk about it, there are areas in this country where if the federal government was not allowed to take part...these crimes would not be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Ultimately, the question of "what is the point?...there's no deterrent effect !" could apply to many other laws...during time periods with rapidly increasing homicide rates...should be ask whether laws detailing life in prison for murder are valid because they are apparently not having a deterrent effect? Much like the insanity of Judge Robert's broken-record "i want to protect the rule of law," opponents of hate crime laws who say basically the same thing...to me seem to be using that to hide behind their real beliefs.

    Re: Opposing Hate Crime Laws (none / 0) (#3)
    by peacrevol on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:51 PM EST
    wow PHD...you are far too serious.

    Re: Opposing Hate Crime Laws (none / 0) (#4)
    by tps12 on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:52 PM EST
    We should punish the act, not the thought process of the actor.
    Isn't the thought process of the actor the difference between first and second degree murder?

    Re: Opposing Hate Crime Laws (none / 0) (#5)
    by kdog on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:52 PM EST
    Hate crime=thought crime=not cool

    Re: Opposing Hate Crime Laws (none / 0) (#6)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:52 PM EST
    Posted by peacrevolL "wow PHD...you are far too serious." And you must be sixteen. The main problem with federalizing hate crimes prosecution is that it is obvious that white supremacists, the primary purveyor of hate crimes, won't be punished the same as target groups. Justice in Bush's Amerika ain't just blind, it's gored in the eye.

    Re: Opposing Hate Crime Laws (none / 0) (#7)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:52 PM EST
    There are good and bad reasons for so-called "hate crime" laws. The bad reason (and the one implied by the term "hate crime") is that we want to punish people more strongly if they commit a crime for a reason that we find particularly offensive. Killing someone because he's black is, on a gut level, more offensive than killing the same person because he wouldn't give up his wallet, but he's equally dead either way. Likewise for beating him up, or non-fatally stabbing him, or breaking his windshield with a sledgehammer. The good reason is that a so-called "hate crime" doesn't just affect the direct victim; it indirectly intimidates everyone else in the targeted group. If (hypothetically!) I beat someone up because he's black, I'm not just beating up one person; I'm also sending a message to all the other black people: don't get "uppity" or the same thing will happen to you. And that is, I think, a legitimate thing to consider as an aggravating circumstance. Perhaps "crimes of intimidation" would be a better term. (I'm not commenting on the Federal vs. State issue.)

    Re: Opposing Hate Crime Laws (none / 0) (#8)
    by tps12 on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:53 PM EST
    Kdog, bias crime statutes increase sentences for acts that are already criminal. "Hate" itself is not criminalized, so the "thought crime" accusation falls flat. Our justice system routinely bases decisions and sentences on determination of mens rea; this is hardly any different.

    Re: Opposing Hate Crime Laws (none / 0) (#9)
    by roger on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:53 PM EST
    The only hate crime cases that I have personally handled have been disputes where the parties knew each other well. The hate crime part came in because there were alleged racial slurs during the altercations. "Icing on the cake". These cases also had other indicia of fabrication, and were ultimately dropped by the state

    Re: Opposing Hate Crime Laws (none / 0) (#10)
    by kdog on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:53 PM EST
    The hate crime part came in because there were alleged racial slurs during the altercations.
    If it's not thought crime, maybe it's really speech crime? Unless the accused is willing to share his/her motivations for committing a crime, how can the state prove hate? Hate is a thought, a feeling...not a crime.

    Re: Opposing Hate Crime Laws (none / 0) (#11)
    by peacrevol on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:53 PM EST
    Posted by peacrevolL "wow PHD...you are far too serious
    Draw in your horns paul, it originally a joke used to point out the stupidity of calling them hate crimes. Man, some of you guys REALLY need to relax.

    Re: Opposing Hate Crime Laws (none / 0) (#12)
    by peacrevol on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:53 PM EST
    insert "was" after "originally" in my last post. Apparently I cant type in complete sentences.

    Re: Opposing Hate Crime Laws (none / 0) (#13)
    by tps12 on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:01 PM EST
    Kdog, Roger writes that the hate crime aspects of those charges were dropped. The use of racial slurs during a crime does not make it a hate crime, and the state's actions reflected that.
    how can the state prove hate? Hate is a thought, a feeling
    Again, the same could be said about intent. Intent is a state of mind, not an action: how can it be proven? And yet discovery of intent is an essential and non-controversial part of our justice system.

    Re: Opposing Hate Crime Laws (none / 0) (#14)
    by roger on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:01 PM EST
    tps- In the cases that I reffered to, the entire cases were dropped, not just the hate crime enhancement. One important note- the stste is NOT required to show motive, for any crime. Juries often want a motive, and may not convict without one, but it is not required

    Stopping the Rapes of Rich White Frat Guys! (none / 0) (#15)
    by jackellisdd on Mon Jan 26, 2009 at 03:43:22 PM EST
    I thought that  Jeralyn's arguments against the proposed Federal Hate Crimes Law were OK, reasonable.

    But, I have a much stronger opposition to these laws. I see them as EU style, Canadian style George Orwell 1984 style efforts to criminalize, demonize thinking in the USA - we now are supposed to be "Politically Correct" and not dare say, write or think anything that goes against the current PC party line.

    In Canada the author Mark Steyn was persecuted by some monstrosity called the Canadian Human RIghts Tribunal (sound Stalinist enough?) for daring to write a magazine article pointing out the dangers of mass Muslim immigration into many European cities. Now this is just commentary about current events - not threatening anyone, not accusing anyone of crimes, just presenting a position about immigration.

    And the truth be known, most of the alleged "hate crimes" against politically correct oppressed "minorities, women" are hoaxes like the Duke Lacrosse Team rape hoax, Tawana Brawley rape hoax.

    The reality in America is not straight, White heterosexual White Christian men going on crime sprees, raping and murdering and terrorizing others.

    I live in Chicago - we led the nation in total murders last year ~ 500, how many fit in to these Fed Hate Crime category - probably 0 unless you count Black Gangbangers assaulting, killing some White gay people and I can assure you the Fed Hate Crime Laws will never get used against Black gangbangers - though they might get counted as an anti gay hate crime to pad the numbers.

    We who live in American cities have to deal with real, violent crime from the likes of the M13 Gang, Black Gangster Disciples, Bloods, Cripps, Mexican Mafia, Vice Lords - we understand that the FBI already tracks crimes by race and guess what?

    The last FBI stats were that there were over 30,000 Black male rapes against White women and between 10-0 White male rapes against Black women in one year.

    Anyone think any of the 30,000 Black on White rapes will be prosecuted as Fed Hate Crimes?

    And why should they?

    Rape is a horrible crime, so is murder. Just enforce the law and stop politicalizing criminal prosecutions.