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No to Obama's Proposal of 50-50 in Michigan

On January 15, 2008, 594,398 Democrats went to their polling places and voted in their state's primary. The official Michigan election results are here.

328,309 Democrats in Michigan voted for Hillary Clinton. She won all but two counties, Washtenaw and Emmet. 238,168 voted uncommitted. 21,715 voted for Dennis Kucinich. 3,845 voted for Chris Dodd. 2,361 voted for Mike Gravel.

Hillary got 55% of the vote. The uncommitted, who either were truly uncommitted or for Obama, Edwards or Biden, all three of whom voluntarily withdrew their names from the ballot, got 40%. Kucinich, Dodd and Gravel won 5% of the vote.

Barack Obama now proposes he get 50% of the state's delegates. That would be vote-stealing. It would be disenfranchising 5% of Hillary's voters. It would be assuming that every uncommitted voter and every voter for Kucinich, Dodd and Gravel now want their vote to go to Obama.

That's called stealing an election.

Obama prevails in this crazy theory at his peril. There will be hundreds of thousands of Democrats across the country who will refuse to vote for him in November, thinking better a Republican than a cheat. [More...]

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More Open Thread

By Big Tent Democrat

More thread.

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Weds. Night Open Thread

By Big Tent Democrat

Your turn. Open Thread. Play nice. Hasta luego.

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Now That It Is Over . .

By Big Tent Democrat

Speaking for me only.

let me agree with Kevin Drum:

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Account Registration Problems

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We went to a new caching system over the weekend so some pages now load statically rather than dynamically (or something like that) to speed up the site, and since then, we've been getting these emails.

Colin, our webmaster, says it may be related to the new caching system and he hopes to have a solution shortly.

Thanks for your patience, and please use this thread for any issues or questions related to TalkLeft.

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Wednesday Open Thread

I'll be at work and the jail the rest of the day, so here's an open thread. I'll be back tonight.

Is anyone thinking about things other than Spitzer and Michigan and Florida? If so, please weigh in.

Update: Comments now closed.

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Yes, Virginia, There are Hillary Bloggers (And Open Thread)

With most of the progressive blogosphere seemingly behind Barack Obama, Tom Watson lines up the list of those favoring Hillary.

To be a Clinton blogger in the progressive blogosphere is to be hated, shunned, passed without notice in the street. .... We're not welcome at all the best dKos parties - if we show up, we're cursed with the universal epithet of those who challenge the Obama hegemony: "troll," they call us. ... Oh, the pain. The pure pain.

Give the gift of traffic. Here's Tom's list of bloggers writing favorably about Hillary: [More...]

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Tuesday Morning Open Thread

By Big Tent Democrat

As we wait for Mississippi to vote, I find no news on MI/FL revotes, my new obsession. So in the meantime, Ezra points us to this interview with David Simon, the creator of an obsession of many bloggers, including me, The Wire.

Add your own obsessions in this Open Thread.

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Super Delegates Will Decide The Nomination Open Thread

By Big Tent Democrat

Speaking for me only.

Over at Daily Kos, a front page post includes this:

[I]f Obama and Clinton split the remaining pledged delegates 50/50, Obama would need only 35% of the unpledged delegates (aka superdelegates) who haven't yet committed to a candidate, while Clinton would need 65% of them.

I am not sure on the math or the assumption that the remaining pledged delegates will be split 50/50, but I do appreciate the honest admission that it will be the Super Delegates who decide the nominee. The candidates understand this of course, and are spinning hard for reasons why the Super Delegates should support their respective candidacies. The rules are the rules and wooing the Super Delegates seems to be a part of them.

Let's hope people are not shocked by the fact that the candidates are trying to win the Super Delegates. This is an Open Thread.

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Ferraro's Foolishness And Other Matters

By Big Tent Democrat

Speaking for me only

Via Kos, Geraldine Ferraro said:

"I think what America feels about a woman becoming president takes a very secondary place to Obama's campaign - to a kind of campaign that it would be hard for anyone to run against," she said. "For one thing, you have the press, which has been uniquely hard on her. It's been a very sexist media. Some just don't like her. The others have gotten caught up in the Obama campaign.

So far so good. Insightful even. Then she goes off the rails:

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Wolcott . . . Heh

By Big Tent Democrat

Wolcott. This is an Open Thread.

Note - Comments are now closed. A note of thanks to Flyerhawk for being a very good sport while we picked on him. Note to all of us, we should not have done that.

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Is It Sexist To Point Out . . .

By Big Tent Democrat

Speaking for me only

. . . the following?

Clinton loses among men by five points or more in 43 states. Clinton does better with women than men in every state, with the biggest gender gap of 31 points in Colorado.

And if it is not, why would it then be racist to point out that Obama does much better with African Americans and Clinton does much better with whites, as Chris Bowers does, and as I did this morning?

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