100 Pardons Coming

Only two short days remain until all traces of Donald Trump and his family and entourage will be gone from the White House. What is his game plan for the end of the most mocked and despised administration in history?

Most major news outlets are predicting 100 pardons.

We all expect it to include Rudy Giuliani and Trump's children -- unless Jared and Ivanka are arrogant enough to reject the idea because they are convinced they are not in jeopardy and don't need one.

I expect to see Steve Bannon on the list. If it later turns out that the funding for luring ultra right-wingers to D.C. disguised as Donald Trump supporters to attack the capitol was provided by Bannon, Trump will look like an even bigger as* for pardoning him.

I also think there will be a lot of pardoning of uber-rich folks, or relatives of uber-rich folks. Trump will want to hit them up for money when he's ready to make his comeback.

I don't think Trump is selling pardons, but those close to him sure seem suspect, according to the New York Times.

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    I am holding my breath (5.00 / 3) (#4)
    by Peter G on Mon Jan 18, 2021 at 09:34:50 PM EST
    for one very deserving client who has a chance to make The Final List. Utterly messed up "system" (no system), but nevertheless she has a chance.

    Here's to You Client... (5.00 / 3) (#5)
    by ScottW714 on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 08:10:00 AM EST
     ...making the cut.

    So (none / 0) (#52)
    by coast on Wed Jan 20, 2021 at 07:44:22 AM EST
    Did your client get the pardon?  Hope so.

    No, my client did not make the (none / 0) (#58)
    by Peter G on Wed Jan 20, 2021 at 09:44:15 AM EST
    commutation cut, alas. But a friend and neighbor whose full pardon application we supported 4-1/2 years ago, but was deferred by Obama, miraculously made the list this morning. Just a regular guy who had a drug conviction 45 years ago, and has since been an outspoken advocate for addiction recovery, whom we met as a fellow day-care parent 30+ yrs ago.

    Sorry about your client (none / 0) (#67)
    by MO Blue on Wed Jan 20, 2021 at 10:57:15 AM EST
    and happy for your friend and neighbor.

    Same sentiment as MO Blue (none / 0) (#74)
    by coast on Wed Jan 20, 2021 at 12:53:15 PM EST
    As you said, not really any process.  Sounds like its just luck of the draw almost, except of course when you have a direct connection.

    Countdown clock (5.00 / 1) (#6)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 09:19:56 AM EST
    Just enough (5.00 / 4) (#12)
    by KeysDan on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 11:38:47 AM EST
    time for Trump to release his health care plan.  And, for Malaria to present her immigration record at her previously announced press conference.   Too late on taxes, though. Still under audit.  And, no infrastructure week,  just infrastructure day..

    This made me laugh and want to throw up. (none / 0) (#7)
    by vml68 on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 10:32:21 AM EST
    Eeeeuuuuuu (none / 0) (#8)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 10:58:20 AM EST
    Maybe... (none / 0) (#11)
    by ScottW714 on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 11:35:45 AM EST
    ...you got in bed with Trump because you felt obligated after going to his room.

    But I did not, and I am not waiting for the sweaty fatso to finish.  I never even returned his call much less entertained the idea of having an affair with Donald Trump.


    No, I did not feel obligated because I did not (none / 0) (#18)
    by vml68 on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 02:02:00 PM EST
    choose to go to his room.
    But, that did not stop most of us from getting f*@ked (whether psychologically, financially, or by literally losing a life) by Tr*mp because a minority made the choice for us.
    So, yes, I am waiting for him to "finish". I won't breathe easy till noon tomorrow.

    Here's a Towel (none / 0) (#31)
    by ScottW714 on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 05:19:30 PM EST
    You know why.

    So many troubling things about this (5.00 / 1) (#9)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 11:01:29 AM EST
    : "Two U.S. Army National Guard members are being removed from the security mission to secure Joe Biden's presidential inauguration. A U.S. Army official and a senior U.S. intelligence official say the two National Guard members have been found to have ties to fringe right group militias."


    How About Removing Them... (5.00 / 3) (#10)
    by ScottW714 on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 11:22:51 AM EST
     ...from the Armed Services ?

    That is going to happen (none / 0) (#13)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 11:47:34 AM EST
    or so they say.   I think that alone is a bit of a creepy thought.  The military going name by name to check their outside affiliations.   What will their discharge say?

    I understand why it's needed   And I don't disagree.  I just think it's a very bad sign.  And it can't end well.


    Given the possible danger to (none / 0) (#23)
    by Zorba on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 03:09:47 PM EST
    Biden and Harris, especially after 1/6, they have to do it.
    I don't like it either, but the safety of the new President and Vice President is of utmost importance.
    From what I've read, they also replaced a bunch of Biden's Secret Service with S.S. people who have worked with him previously.

    According to CNN (none / 0) (#19)
    by MO Blue on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 02:08:16 PM EST
    the count is up to 12 now.  

    Georgia certified (5.00 / 3) (#14)
    by KeysDan on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 11:58:51 AM EST
    elections of Rev Warnock and Jon Ossoff as new US senators.  Can be swore in tomorrow.  

    Champagne is on ice.

    Heard that Vice President Harris (5.00 / 3) (#15)
    by MO Blue on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 12:48:23 PM EST
    Will be swearing them in. That sounds so nice...Vice President Kamala Harris.

    And, her (none / 0) (#17)
    by KeysDan on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 01:15:29 PM EST
    Senate replacement, Alex Padilla.

    And Supreme Court (none / 0) (#22)
    by Zorba on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 03:04:15 PM EST
    Justice Sonia Sotomayor will be swearing in Kamala Harris as Vice President.
    Good. I like that.

    This is a couple (none / 0) (#20)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 02:44:43 PM EST
    of days early. I guess GA decided why delay the inevitable and just move on.

    Every time I hear a bobble head (5.00 / 3) (#51)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jan 20, 2021 at 07:37:00 AM EST
    waxing rhapsodic about "we" all must now talk to the 30% who don't think Biden won I wish I could say to them,  YOU talk to them, OK?

    If they ever did, which they clearly have never done, they would know what I know which is talking to these people is like peeing into the wind.  

    You can not talk to them.  You can not reason with them.  Yes, they have been lied to but they believe the lies because they want to not because they are fooled.

    They can not be brought around by reason.   They are the same people who believed Obama was foreign terrorist in waiting.  (They never really believed that).  They believe Democrats are cannibal pedophiles.  How do you begin a conversation with someone who thinks you are a cannibal pedophile?  Or at the very least you support them politically.

    No talking.  No coddling.  No tolerating.  There is only one thing we can do for these people.  Beat them.  Beat them back.  Beat them over and over and over.  Marginalize them and ignore them.  

    F'ck talking to them and everyone who thinks it we should.

    Oh Man !!! (5.00 / 2) (#55)
    by ScottW714 on Wed Jan 20, 2021 at 08:49:45 AM EST
    Worse even, are people like Graham, saying if we want to pull the country together we have to do this and that, including giving Trump a pass.  Where were these concerned folks when Trump was ripping us apart ?  They weren't just silent, they were 'all in' on Trump and fueling his division every step of the way.  

    If you didn't say jack about coming together for the past 4 years, it's time you STFU about coming together now.

    And McConnell... does Mitch forget he was lock and step with Trump for 3 years and 50 weeks.  Did he forget how he screwed us out of 2 SCOTUS appointments.  How many votes did he block form even coming up, the guy has a lot of blood on his hands.   I would let him know in no uncertain terms that impeaching Trump is a start if he want to get back into good graces.


    That was a wonderful run down. (5.00 / 1) (#79)
    by leap on Wed Jan 20, 2021 at 01:52:49 PM EST
    You should send that to the NYT, WaPo, WSJ, NBC, CBS, ABC (does that still exist?), MSNBC, FUX, etc., et alia. Because you know and understand that segment of USA.

    100% (none / 0) (#77)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Jan 20, 2021 at 01:30:00 PM EST
    with you on this. I just had one come after me for being glad Pence at least believed in the peaceful transition of power. I have found Rick Wilson's advice on dealing with Trumpers to be the best: just block them. So I just got rid of this Trumper on Facebook. Like you say there is no point. These people have been radicalized. Do these same people think we should have a discussion with ISIS?

    please be clear in your comments (none / 0) (#80)
    by Jeralyn on Wed Jan 20, 2021 at 07:47:52 PM EST
    to explain what you mean by words like "beat" which also means physically hit. We cannot promote violence in comments or posts here. Please proof before you hit the send button.

    I loved thinking about (5.00 / 2) (#66)
    by MO Blue on Wed Jan 20, 2021 at 10:54:01 AM EST
    the Trumpers heads exploding when JLo spoke Spanish during her performance of My Land. Made my heart glad.

    I Would Like to Know What She Said First... (none / 0) (#68)
    by ScottW714 on Wed Jan 20, 2021 at 11:13:28 AM EST
    ...but to have a Latina sing that song probably was more than most could bear, but then again I suspect they heads are exploding because Trump didn't declare Martial Law and that all the troops in DC weren't there to keep Trump in power.  
    Lied to again.

    To be honest, I was a bit nervous about all the troops.  Also any violence at the capitals, the news is stuck on the inauguration.


    Most of the leaders of the (none / 0) (#70)
    by MO Blue on Wed Jan 20, 2021 at 11:47:26 AM EST
    right wing terrorist groups have told their followers to stay away and prepare to overturn the government on another day when the troops have gone away.

    JLo said, in Spanish, during her singing (none / 0) (#72)
    by Peter G on Wed Jan 20, 2021 at 12:18:56 PM EST
    of two verses (out of six) of Woody Guthrie's "This Land is Your Land," mashed up with a line of "America the Beautiful":  "One Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all." I thought it was magnificent. Lady Gaga's national anthem was fine, but not up to the imagination and power of JLo. I also thought the "national youth poet laureate" was awesome.

    Amanda Gorman was awesome. (5.00 / 3) (#75)
    by vml68 on Wed Jan 20, 2021 at 01:00:05 PM EST
    Also, a very beautiful young woman.

    Really? (none / 0) (#82)
    by Jeralyn on Wed Jan 20, 2021 at 07:54:28 PM EST
    i didn't like the poet. I found her constant hand movements so distracting I couldn't focus on what she said. They also seemed so choreographed and unspontaneous. I wondered at first whether she was doing sign language for the deaf but it just didn't seem like it.  

    I liked the choreographed gestures (none / 0) (#83)
    by Peter G on Wed Jan 20, 2021 at 08:24:33 PM EST
    I thought they underlined the words in a very creative way. Kind of a gentle dance.

    Yup... (5.00 / 1) (#84)
    by ScottW714 on Thu Jan 21, 2021 at 09:24:05 AM EST
    ...it was a bit intoxicating, the cadence, the casual word play & rhyming, the movements just all blended together into a really great one of a kind performance.  I felt hypnotized & mesmerized.

    We aren't the only ones, tons of people saying she stole the show.
    Link has entire poem without comment.

    Found this interview.  This person is like on a whole other plane than most of us, certainly me.

    I am the daughter of black writers who are descended from freedom fighters who broke thru chains and changed the world.

    She's was the best moment of the day (5.00 / 1) (#85)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jan 21, 2021 at 09:29:31 AM EST
    It had a palate cleansing effect for the brain.

    The Poet Blew Me Away (none / 0) (#76)
    by ScottW714 on Wed Jan 20, 2021 at 01:10:53 PM EST
    Her official title is 'The Poet Laureate Consultant in Poetry to the Library of Congress', Amanda Gorman

    Good for J.Lo


    Latest word is (none / 0) (#1)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Jan 18, 2021 at 04:20:14 PM EST
    he will not pardon himself or his children.  

    If that's true, and who knows, I think it's not unthinkable he will leave the country.   Flee! Flee for his life.

    No plan (none / 0) (#2)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Jan 18, 2021 at 04:22:12 PM EST
    I have been reading (none / 0) (#3)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Jan 18, 2021 at 07:01:04 PM EST
    that it seems nowhere in the US wants them. Ivanaka and Jared are already being shunned in their new Florida neighborhood and denied a membership at the club associated with the neighborhood.

    It seems like Trump is still popular in the Dakotas. Maybe they can do their grifting from a dude ranch.


    Tina Brown (none / 0) (#33)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 05:48:03 PM EST
    "There is a myth around that Jared and Ivanka will be rejected socially. The rich are never rejected -- until they go to prison or lose their money."

    -- Tina Brown, quoted by Town & Country.

    I think (none / 0) (#50)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Jan 20, 2021 at 05:49:27 AM EST
    a lot of these people now know there never was any money. It was all an illusion. I guess we shall see how it all plays out but it seems since Trump's divorce from Ivana he hasn't been part of NY society.

    MyPillow (none / 0) (#16)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 01:00:13 PM EST
    will run for elective office in `22.

    The My Pillow (none / 0) (#21)
    by Zorba on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 03:02:30 PM EST
    guy can take every one of his pillows and stuff them........
    "where the sun don't shine."

    My Pillow pillows (none / 0) (#24)
    by fishcamp on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 03:14:04 PM EST
    are terrible too, I've heard from my Republican friends.

    I think (none / 0) (#25)
    by Zorba on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 03:21:36 PM EST
    That they're basically just chopped up foam, aren't they?

    Bad for biz (none / 0) (#34)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 05:49:51 PM EST
    "The founder of MyPillow, a vocal and in the past few weeks very visible supporter of President Trump, says a backlash against the company has begun after a mob stormed the U.S. Capitol this month," the AP reports.

    "Mike Lindell, the company CEO and also the face of the brand, said major retailers like Bed Bath & Beyond and Kohl's have dropped his products recently."

    I hope that (none / 0) (#26)
    by Zorba on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 03:35:39 PM EST
    At least some of the people he pardons can be brought up on state charges.
    And I hope that they all have trouble getting new jobs.  
    Maybe they can go door to door selling My Pillows.
    Meanwhile, Mr. Zorba and I will be celebrating the new administration with champagne, oysters, and steamed shrimp.

    Funny that I never noticed (none / 0) (#27)
    by desertswine on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 04:33:02 PM EST
    how beautiful the Capitol dome was before.

    The flags (5.00 / 1) (#29)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 04:52:15 PM EST
    on the mall is just beautiful. I understand Amy Klobuchar has been heading up the inauguration committee. She really has done a great job.

    The ceremony that Biden (5.00 / 2) (#30)
    by MO Blue on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 05:15:50 PM EST
    just held for the people who perished from COVID was truly beautiful and moving.

    It was. I almost wept. (none / 0) (#41)
    by desertswine on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 08:01:22 PM EST
    Nicole Wallace and (none / 0) (#42)
    by MO Blue on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 08:20:56 PM EST
    Dr. Patel (?) were actually choking up while on air.

    I just read (none / 0) (#36)
    by MO Blue on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 06:22:16 PM EST
    that Fox News did not cover the ceremony that Biden held for those who perished from COVID. If true, that is really a shame. It was truly beautiful and it is necessary for the nation to mourn the hundreds of thousands who have died.

    Faux News (none / 0) (#39)
    by Chuck0 on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 07:32:21 PM EST
    was reporting on the horde heading to the US now that we have open borders.



    Isn't that special? (none / 0) (#43)
    by jondee on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 08:38:47 PM EST
    I've been noticing that Tucker Carlson's voice has virtually the same cadence as Dana Carvey's The Church Lady, especially when he gets a little excited and his voice goes up an octave.

    Senator Hawley (none / 0) (#28)
    by KeysDan on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 04:33:12 PM EST
    can't find the decency to keep his head down for a while--- he blocked rapid confirmation of President Biden's nomination of Alejandro Mayorkas  to the crucial post of Secretary of Homeland Security.

    Hawley is trying to (5.00 / 2) (#32)
    by MO Blue on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 05:31:22 PM EST
    out Trump, Trump. Truly a scumbag.

    Hmmmm (none / 0) (#35)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 06:18:50 PM EST
    So, too, was Trump warned that pardons for Republican lawmakers who had sought them for their role in the Capitol insurrection would anger the very Senate Republicans who will determine his fate in an upcoming impeachment trial.


    I was not aware any GOP lawmakers had sought a pardon

    When Are the Pardons COming... (none / 0) (#37)
    by ScottW714 on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 06:49:26 PM EST
    ...it's 7pm CST on the 19th and nothing.  So it's tomorrow before noon, whatever he does is going to outshine his departure.

    CNN just said (none / 0) (#38)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 07:27:11 PM EST
    they could come very late tonight.  Not a great sign.

    MSNBC says (none / 0) (#46)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 10:09:28 PM EST
    Pardons any moment.  I guess they have been alerted.

    Just read (none / 0) (#48)
    by MO Blue on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 10:46:18 PM EST
    he said he is going to pardon scumbag Steve Bannon.

    And TomDelay... (none / 0) (#54)
    by ScottW714 on Wed Jan 20, 2021 at 08:33:52 AM EST
    ... the bug man that was my representative for years under GWB and Speaker of the House for a bit.  

    Reprehensible human being.  Convicted of money laundering and other financial crimes.


    DeLay did not receive presidential clemency (none / 0) (#59)
    by Peter G on Wed Jan 20, 2021 at 10:01:44 AM EST
    In fact, my recollection (which I have not checked) is that the charges against him were in Texas state court, not federal. So the President has no authority over it.

    Can Trump Keep Pardons Under Seal? (none / 0) (#40)
    by RickyJim on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 07:58:58 PM EST
    Is it possible for him to keep them secret until some people he plans to pardon are actually indicted?  I assume somebody would advise him on what to do to prove they weren't backdated to before noon Jan. 20.  From his stand point, the longer he can keep unknown outrages secret, the better off he is.

    I don't think so (none / 0) (#44)
    by Peter G on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 08:57:25 PM EST
    Never heard of such a thing, and cannot think of a mechanism for doing it.

    Ford Pardon of Nixon (none / 0) (#63)
    by RickyJim on Wed Jan 20, 2021 at 10:12:06 AM EST
    was for all crimes he might of committed up to a certain date.  Of course, Ford made it public right away.  But did he have to?  Trump might have completed all the paper work for pardoning himself and left it as part of some presidential archive that is protected from public scrutiny.

    A Pardon Might be Overturned (none / 0) (#78)
    by RickyJim on Wed Jan 20, 2021 at 01:52:12 PM EST
    if it is not "delivered".
    "A president almost never tries to take back a pardon, although an old court case called In Re De Puy describes how President Ulysses Grant successfully cancelled a conditional pardon granted by his predecessor, Andrew Johnson, before it was delivered," Crouch said.

    Grant's actions may seem to set a precedent for Biden but the circumstances were complex. A properly delivered pardon, accepted by the recipient, cannot be revoked by a new president.

    "More recently, George W. Bush took back a pardon from Isaac Robert Toussie and claimed he did so before it was delivered," Crouch said. "I argued in a journal article that Toussie's pardon was actually complete and couldn't be taken back."

    Bush withdrew Toussie's pardon one day after issuing it in a decision that's still controversial. Toussie's father had donated $300,000 to the Republican Party, a fact that emerged only after the pardon was issued and prompted Bush's actions.

    "[A]s long as a pardon is delivered, it is recognized as valid," Crouch said.

    The article also mentions that a self pardon might be declared invalid regardless of if it was delivered.


    The Patriot Party (none / 0) (#45)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 09:20:07 PM EST
    Good idea

    "President Trump has talked in recent days with associates about forming a new political party, an effort to exert continued influence after he leaves the White House," the Wall Street Journal reports.

    "Mr. Trump discussed the matter with several aides and other people close to him last week... The president said he would want to call the new party the `Patriot Party.'"

    They're good at that (none / 0) (#47)
    by jondee on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 10:14:13 PM EST
    kind of manipulative, below-the-belt branding.

    How could you be against a Patriot Party? What are you, some kind of commie?


    Just think of all the money Trump will (none / 0) (#49)
    by desertswine on Tue Jan 19, 2021 at 10:54:02 PM EST
    have access to.  I'm sure he is.

    Funny (none / 0) (#53)
    by ScottW714 on Wed Jan 20, 2021 at 08:31:16 AM EST
    I forget, what party are 90% of the people here in?  Just sayin'.

    I think it's perfect (none / 0) (#57)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jan 20, 2021 at 09:37:18 AM EST
    the word "patriot"

    noun: patriot; plural noun: patriots; noun: Patriot
    a person who vigorously supports their country and is prepared to defend it against enemies or detractors.
    "a true patriot"
    an automated surface-to-air missile designed for early detection and interception of incoming missiles or aircraft.


    has come to be synonymous with zealot, extremist.  When most people think patriot they are probably thinking militia.

    Others, like me, think Judy Collins Patriot Games.

    It's perfect.  


    As Joe once famously said (none / 0) (#56)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jan 20, 2021 at 09:29:27 AM EST
    This is a big f'cking deal.

    I've decided (none / 0) (#60)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jan 20, 2021 at 10:06:21 AM EST
    almost everyone looks better in a mask.  I'm starting to hope they continue being widely used.  Never a bad idea to wear a mask.

    And most people just look better.

    I also feel sort of incognito when I wear one.  


    Not to focus on fashion (5.00 / 1) (#61)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jan 20, 2021 at 10:08:08 AM EST
    but I love what Kamala is wearing.  It keeps changing color depending on the lighting.

    Just now on CNN (none / 0) (#62)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jan 20, 2021 at 10:11:12 AM EST
    discussing the color saying it's purple and that is significant but in the shot it totally looked blue.

    Almost positive (5.00 / 1) (#69)
    by MO Blue on Wed Jan 20, 2021 at 11:44:26 AM EST
    it is periwinkle. One of my favorite colors.

    On a decor note, (5.00 / 1) (#71)
    by KeysDan on Wed Jan 20, 2021 at 12:11:41 PM EST
    It is my hope that President and Dr. Biden have the Oval Office   re-decorated right away.  The site of so many photos, the optics need to keep pace with the notion of cleansing and refurbishment.  Change the colors, lose Trump's golden curtains, and replace the busts and portraits, including that of Andrew Jackson.

    Maybe, piggybacked onto the $500,000 fumigation job underway at the White House.


    Definitely need to change the decor (5.00 / 1) (#73)
    by MO Blue on Wed Jan 20, 2021 at 12:20:46 PM EST
    Also, I hope our new First Lady makes an attempt to restore the Rose Garden to its former beauty. Someone suggested that she requests family members of the former First Ladies select a rose to replace what was torn out by the "classless one."

    I read that Jill Biden has already begun (none / 0) (#81)
    by Jeralyn on Wed Jan 20, 2021 at 07:51:16 PM EST
    renovating the bathroom on in the East wing where her offices will be (and Melania's were). $1.2 million has already been awarded to contractors.

    Could be (none / 0) (#65)
    by MO Blue on Wed Jan 20, 2021 at 10:51:51 AM EST

    Thinking Back Four Years Ago... (none / 0) (#64)
    by ScottW714 on Wed Jan 20, 2021 at 10:31:27 AM EST
     ...it truly was as bad as we thought it would be, maybe even worse because of January 6th.

    The feeling I have today is so much different.  After the 2016 election I went dark in regards to news for about 6 months.  I didn't want to know about anything and I was ticked how the media had given Trump a platform that ultimately lead to his win.

    I'm no Joe fan, but damn, life today just seems a little better and very soon, there is going to be a day in which I don't hear, see, or read the word 'Trump' and that day will be a fine one.  Slowly but surely he will go from hourly to daily to weekly to maybe even monthly new cycle.  

    Today is a glorious day and I think most concerned adults are glad to see that Trump went out, not with a bang, but with a whimper.

    I totally forgot the time table for today were EST.  This is going down an hour earlier that I thought.