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Monday Open Thread: Why is He Still Here?

Writing about Donald Trump is like listening to a broken record. Over and over the media exposes his lies and incompetence, his narcisism and delusions of grandeur, the danger he poses to the global stature of he United States and even to our democracy. At least since the start of COVID-19 (which is when I began watching cable news again after an absence of many years), every night on CNN, in broadcasts distributed around the world, not one, but three prime time hosts brand Donald Trump all these things and worse.

Everyone except his marginalized, fanatical base knows he's a charlatan. Everyone knows he lost the popular vote in 2016. Everyone knows he appoints unqualified people to key staff positions and his administration has the higest turnover rate of any recent occupant of the oval office. Everyone belittles his aides, his nepotism, his adult children, and his apathy to anything that doesn't line his own coffers or ego. Everyone knows he doesn't care about America.

Yet, every morning we wake up and he's still here. He's still dominating the news. He's still lying about COVID-19. Why isn't he gone?

It will take a generation or more to recover from the damage Donald Trump has inflicted on America at every level -- from our physical and economic health to our educational system, our personal and professional lives, the social fabric of our nation and our standing in the world. If we recover at all.

This is an open thread, all topics welcome.

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    Reports on the D.C. Circuit en banc argument (5.00 / 3) (#43)
    by Peter G on Tue Aug 11, 2020 at 03:23:26 PM EST
    of the Flynn dismissal case suggest that Judge Sullivan will be authorized to go forward with a hearing into why DoJ suddenly wants him to sign off on dismissing charges to which the defendant (twice) voluntarily pleaded guilty.

    Is it customary (none / 0) (#46)
    by KeysDan on Tue Aug 11, 2020 at 04:04:46 PM EST
    for the three-membered panel, whose decision was vacated by being taken up en banc, to participate?  Apparently so, but seems odd.

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    All active judges of the Circuit can sit (5.00 / 2) (#49)
    by Peter G on Tue Aug 11, 2020 at 09:25:58 PM EST
    on a rehearing en banc, plus any senior judge of the Circuit who was on the original three-judge panel. Yes, totally normal to include the original three, whose prior decision is now vacated. This is not an appeal from their ruling; it is a substitute proceeding in place of that ruling.

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    I bet I can guess the reason (none / 0) (#47)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Aug 11, 2020 at 08:24:42 PM EST
    Josh Gerstein
    @joshgerstein
    BREAKING: Acting SG Wall says Barr had secret, undisclosed reasons for dismissing Flynn case.

    Josh Gerstein
    @joshgerstein
    NOW: En banc oral arguments underway on Michael Flynn case at DC Circuit.  Judge Henderson, who unexpectedly joined Judge Rao in ruling in Flynn's favor in June, has no questions for Flynn's lawyers when she is offered chance to ask
    9:54 AM · Aug 11, 2020

    link

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    Wall: if I told you I'd have to kill you. (none / 0) (#48)
    by oculus on Tue Aug 11, 2020 at 09:20:15 PM EST
    R.I.P. Trini Lopez. (5.00 / 3) (#57)
    by fishcamp on Wed Aug 12, 2020 at 02:06:40 PM EST
    He passed away due to complications from the corona virus.  We worked together on a travel entertainment film show years ago in Palm Springs.  The director had him gliding back and forth in a swing singing his hit `If I Had a Hammer'.  It was a corny shoot and we all laughed about it afterward.  He hung out with the film crew when we wrapped and told us all kinds of funny stories.  Great guy.  He will be missed.

    In a normal universe (5.00 / 1) (#120)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Aug 14, 2020 at 04:35:37 PM EST
    The headline that the numbers 1 & 2 at the Dept of Homeland Security were not legally able to hold their positions and so possibly calling into question the legality of every action they have taken would be a big deal.

    In our universe it's covered in the "D block".


    GAO finds Chad Wolf, Ken Cuccinelli are ineligible to serve in their top DHS roles
    GAO has referred the matter to the inspector general of the Department of Homeland Security for further review and potential action.



    Trump's fellow (1.00 / 1) (#91)
    by leap on Thu Aug 13, 2020 at 11:02:12 PM EST
    sociopaths. I'd like to see all these horrible people drawn and quartered and buried, dug up, and buried again. Just to make sure they stay in the underworld.

    It may take more than a generation. (none / 0) (#1)
    by Chuck0 on Mon Aug 10, 2020 at 07:15:33 AM EST
    Even if he leaves in January, the cult will remain.

    My cousin in the DC area made an observation yesterday that I believe rings true. Many of those people don't really support him, they just hate the same people he does. This country needs exorcise those people from our midst.

    How would that work (5.00 / 1) (#2)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Aug 10, 2020 at 07:45:12 AM EST
    Exactly?

    Exorcising them?  I don't disagree with you.  Just like to hear out loud how we plan to do that.  Exactly.

    I recently left a long comment on this subject.   The fact that Trump is not and has never really been the primary problem.  The problem is the Republican base.

    To answer the question in the post, he is not just "still here".  According to 538 he still has the support, in many cases fanatical support, of 41+% of the voting public.

    I really would like to know how we exorcise 41+% of the voting public.  Cause I don't know how that is achieved.  

    I would just point out in passing Hitler had the support of roughly 40% when he took power.  

    We have one option.  One.  They have to be beaten.  Not narrowly.  They have to be crushed and humiliated. They have to be banished to minority status and kept there by never letting anyone forget what they enabled.

    I also don't agree they they don't really support him but only hate the same people.  That might have been true early on.  Not anymore IMO.  They support him.  Blindly and rabidly.  He has become their dreams of a white nation made flesh.  
    In fact many don't just support him, they have literally come to worship him.  Trumpism is not and maybe never was really a political movement.  It's a religion.  


    re·li·gion
    rəˈlijən
    noun
    noun: religion
    the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power
    a pursuit or interest to which someone ascribes supreme importance.

    They will not be exorcised.  They will not be reasoned with.  Facts don't matter.  It's become a matter of faith.

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    On a happier note (none / 0) (#3)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Aug 10, 2020 at 07:55:26 AM EST
    Chris Hayes did a segment last week about the scary fact Trump still has 40 ish percent support and how crazy that was and about the fear he might win again with that much support.

    He pointed out that historically our country is so polarized that no matter what support rarely ever drops below that.

    He pointed out that Hoover, Mondale and Carter all had similar poll number when they were crushed on Election Day.

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    Even Nixon still retained 30% support, ... (none / 0) (#86)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Thu Aug 13, 2020 at 07:52:25 PM EST
    ... including a majority of Republicans, when he resigned his office in Aug. 1974. There will always be some people who are too enthralled with the view to notice that their head's up their a$$.

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    The best (none / 0) (#9)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Aug 10, 2020 at 02:15:01 PM EST
    comparison I have found is denazification that went on after WW2 where people were exposed to what really happened. I mean even after that there were still Nazis but a lot fewer of them. Perhaps doing something about talk radio and Fox News where these people get their crap from. Maybe fining Fox for every lie they tell and talk radio too. Or make them run constant disclaimers that they are not news organizations.

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    ... in Germany included the public repudiation of that country's Nazi leaders through criminal trials and subsequent convictions, imprisonment and in quite a few cases, execution by hanging or firing squad. For the civilian population, the public display of Nazi symbols, flags and other paraphernalia was banned outright, and violators were punished swiftly and severely

    And in those countries and territories that were recently liberated of Nazi German occupation, the reprisals against real or suspected collaborators were often swift and brutal. Even France's great First World War hero, Marshal Henri Philippe Pétain, was convicted of treason and spent the rest of his life in prison for collaborating with German occupiers as head of the Nazi puppet state Vichy France, while his trusted deputy Pierre Laval, who served as Vichy France's prime minister and facilitated the transfer of French Jews to Nazi death camps,, wound up facing the business end of a firing squad.

    De-Nazification of Germany and western Europe took several decades and was achieved through public education, generous postwar aid packages and in equal measure, military intimidation and legal reprisal. But even today, the nationalist right remains a potent force in European affairs. The relatively recent tragedy of post-Tito Yugoslavia provides a cautionary tale of just how easily local public opinion can be swayed by blatant nationalist appeals to our darker fears and instincts.

    Our own country was clearly founded at least in part upon the grievously misguided principle of White male supremacy. As a result, white nationalism has so readily (and wrongly) been conflated with American patriotism in our historical recounting for so long, it's really no small wonder that nearly 160 years after the U.S. Civil War first began at Charleston, SC's Fort Sumter, we're apparently still litigating the final terms of that war's conclusion.

    To succeed in the fight against white nationalism and fascism, we need to first reclaim and then assert control over our country's historical narrative. A good place to start would be the resurrection of the Fairness Doctrine for our public media, and the return to the art of corporate trust-busting in order to break up media conglomerates, which can hopefully unwind the present near-domination of public airwaves by ultra-conservative and reactionary thought-speak.

    Aloha.

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    This is why I think (none / 0) (#23)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Aug 10, 2020 at 06:40:58 PM EST
    prosecutions are going to be necessary. Let's hope Biden understands that.

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    Prosecutions necessary (1.00 / 4) (#25)
    by Abdul Abulbul Amir on Mon Aug 10, 2020 at 11:38:40 PM EST
    Are you thinking of those that foisted the Russia collusion hoax on the nation in a failed attempted coup?

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    Probably more like this (5.00 / 1) (#27)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Aug 11, 2020 at 07:34:27 AM EST
    Joe Biden says that he believes prosecuting a former president would be a "very unusual thing and probably not very ... good for democracy," but he would not stand in the way of a future Justice Department pursuing criminal charges against President Trump after he leaves office.



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    Exactly (none / 0) (#32)
    by Peter G on Tue Aug 11, 2020 at 10:27:56 AM EST
    Indicting the leaders of the outgoing administration is very banana-republic in appearance. It would take an exceptionally persuasive communications effort to show that it was absolutely and unambiguously mandated by the rule of law, and not a partisan vendetta.

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    Does it count (none / 0) (#33)
    by Chuck0 on Tue Aug 11, 2020 at 11:10:00 AM EST
    when the outgoing administration are the ones that turned the country into a banana republic?

    This administration has been one continuous ongoing grift. Hard to see prosecutions as a partisan vendetta.

    Best option, let NY indict and prosecute the mafia don, the let the chips fall where they may for the consiglieres.

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    Of course it counts. All I said was (none / 0) (#40)
    by Peter G on Tue Aug 11, 2020 at 03:07:24 PM EST
    was that it would take an extraordinary communications effort to explain to the entire American populace. Not to you, ChuckO, or to me, but much more broadly. Nor did I argue against doing it.

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    I expect there is (none / 0) (#42)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Aug 11, 2020 at 03:12:55 PM EST
    More than enough to charge Donald with, (tax and bank fraud?) that have nothing to do with his actions as president.

    Short of actual proven treason I think we should just throw him to the state wolves.  State prisons are way worse, right?

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    Banana republic (none / 0) (#102)
    by Abdul Abulbul Amir on Fri Aug 14, 2020 at 11:56:41 AM EST
    "Banana republic" is using the security services to spy on the opposition party candidate before an election.

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    That's not a "banana republic" (none / 0) (#123)
    by Yman on Sat Aug 15, 2020 at 07:21:10 AM EST
    That's a tinfoil republic populated by whiny snowflakes who are always (and falsely) claiming to be victims.

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    Are you recovered from your dance with (none / 0) (#126)
    by desertswine on Sat Aug 15, 2020 at 01:13:29 PM EST
    the Covid?  Are you suffering from any after effects?

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    Thankfully no (none / 0) (#128)
    by Abdul Abulbul Amir on Mon Aug 17, 2020 at 11:16:02 PM EST
    First three days spent sleeping 20 hours, ate only are a half cup of soup. Lost some weight. After 10 days it was over. Another two weeks to recover stamina. Not bad for a 70+ year old.

    I'm going to have a Tee Shirt made that says "Covid Survivor."

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    you are very lucky (none / 0) (#129)
    by Jeralyn on Tue Aug 18, 2020 at 02:35:51 AM EST
    Congrats on your recovery.

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    Thanks. (none / 0) (#130)
    by Abdul Abulbul Amir on Tue Aug 18, 2020 at 07:20:12 AM EST
    Although this the expected outcome for someone in otherwise good health. I am glad I ditched the cancer sticks decades earlier.  

    The only downside so far is a small bit of family tension. My beautiful bride wants me to wear a mask to show support for the governor when it will do no good for me or anyone else.  In fact if there is any Covid in the air it would be a benefit to everyone else if I sniffed it up and let my freshly topped up antibodies deal with it.

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    The whole (5.00 / 1) (#30)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Aug 11, 2020 at 08:15:49 AM EST
    false "hoax" narrative only works on you and your fellow demon semen believers.

    A few I can think of right now:

    1. Stealing money from taxpayers.
    2. Campaign finance violations.
    3. Negligent homicide.

    Trump has been running a criminal organization for decades. He just continued to do so while president and it has caught up with him.

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    So many investigaors to investigate. (none / 0) (#38)
    by KeysDan on Tue Aug 11, 2020 at 12:55:27 PM EST
    Perhaps more timely, would be to look into Trump's intelligence sources on the gigantic and deadly explosion in Beirut.

     Trump claimed, right off the bat, that it seemed like an "attack" and not a "manufacturing explosion type of event."  He got this idea from our "great generals."  Looks like our great generals let poor Trump down with a rush to judgment in the tinderbox that is  Lebanon.  Or, maybe Trump just made it up. Let's get Barr on it.

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    No - actual crimes (none / 0) (#51)
    by Yman on Wed Aug 12, 2020 at 06:59:24 AM EST
    ... not delusional, tinfoil, wingnut fantasies.

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    No crime? (none / 0) (#101)
    by Abdul Abulbul Amir on Fri Aug 14, 2020 at 11:52:02 AM EST
    You know the funny thing is (none / 0) (#103)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Aug 14, 2020 at 12:04:28 PM EST
    This would be a big story.  Probably will be a big story.  Bigger some places than others but the thing is, today, which should be all about this all reporters except the OANN plants are going to want to ask him about is his idiotic war with the post office.  

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    You know (none / 0) (#108)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Aug 14, 2020 at 12:31:53 PM EST
    Michael Flynn plead guilty and you guys have spent a ton of time apologizing for him. We all know by now you are on team golden showers.

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    You think that Clinesmith's (none / 0) (#124)
    by Yman on Sat Aug 15, 2020 at 07:27:49 AM EST
    ... plea established some kind of "illegal coup" and "Russia hoax"???

    Heh.

    Hard to believe there are really people that clueless, but I guess it's pretty common in the "alternate facts" Trumper world.

    What today's guilty plea in the Russia probe shows (and what it doesn't)

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    It's so depressing to have to (none / 0) (#24)
    by leap on Mon Aug 10, 2020 at 07:50:15 PM EST
    vote for that guy. I really resent it, but what'er ya gonna do?

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    Not only that... (none / 0) (#50)
    by unitron on Wed Aug 12, 2020 at 12:59:06 AM EST
    "...we're apparently still litigating the final terms of that war's conclusion."

    We're still litigating the causes.

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    They probably got the idea for (none / 0) (#13)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Aug 10, 2020 at 03:04:28 PM EST
    Denazification by reading the history of America post civil war.  When we did not do that.  Which is why we are where we are.

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    I confess (none / 0) (#15)
    by Chuck0 on Mon Aug 10, 2020 at 04:36:54 PM EST
    that I don't have an answer for that. Marginalizing them I guess. Force them back into their holes where they stayed hidden before the orange buffoon emboldened them.

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    I think an Indictment (none / 0) (#16)
    by Jeralyn on Mon Aug 10, 2020 at 04:41:51 PM EST
    of someone very close to him in which Trump is named as "T1, an unindicted co-conspirator" might do the trick, if the Indictment spells out T1's role in the offense: e.g., ordering it, coming up with  the scheme, directing a cover-up, lying to a federal official, etc. Especially if it involved the Russian or Kazakh oligarchs. Then everyone can speculate as to whether a sealed Indictment will be returned against him in November like they did with Karl Rove. Rove was never indicted but his political worth sank to the ground. He's reduced to being a Fox elections commentator. People won't vote for Trump if they think he's involved in covering up  a big crime or using the power of his office to intervene.

    Just my two cents. Maybe I need to think it through more.

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    He (5.00 / 1) (#19)
    by FlJoe on Mon Aug 10, 2020 at 05:31:34 PM EST
    was named "individual one" in the Cohen filings. Not an indictment but close, it did little or nothing to erode his support.

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    And, (5.00 / 1) (#22)
    by KeysDan on Mon Aug 10, 2020 at 06:36:27 PM EST
    Impeached.  

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    T1 is my nomenclature (none / 0) (#17)
    by Jeralyn on Mon Aug 10, 2020 at 04:42:58 PM EST
    for Target 1 (as opposed to S1 for Subject 1)

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    Are we really (none / 0) (#29)
    by smott on Tue Aug 11, 2020 at 08:00:38 AM EST
    Thinking that Bill Barr's DOJ would indict anyone in Trump's circle? Pre election?
    He's busy killing any investigations of anyone related to Trump and getting sentences dismissed.

    It's far more likely Barr finds a way to indict Biden or someone inside his campaign circle.

    Barr is the biggest threat the republic has faced since the Civil War. He's the de facto executive.

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    True (none / 0) (#31)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Aug 11, 2020 at 08:21:38 AM EST
    If there is indictment it will be of democrats.  Ron Johnson is working hard.  Barr has his PI on it.  

    I actually expect indictments.

    The good news is 2/3 of the country will see it for exactly what it is.
    That won't stop them from doing it.


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    An indictment would help (none / 0) (#18)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Aug 10, 2020 at 05:17:47 PM EST
    As far as winning the election.  Not sure how much but I think Trump is losing and will lose. Already.  Hopefully big enough that even Barr can't save him.  Anyone's guess what happens then.

    I think he would probably get 30% if he shot someone.  On 5th Ave or anywhere.

    I don't recommend following the day to day.  I wish I could stop.  It burns.

    In the last few day he has had himself on Mt Rushmore and announced he will probably give his acceptance speech at Gettysburg.

    And it's just Aug 10th

    Thinking about Oct makes my head hurt.

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    Religion (none / 0) (#21)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Aug 10, 2020 at 05:45:48 PM EST
    I'm not sure 40% equals "marginalized". (none / 0) (#4)
    by cpinva on Mon Aug 10, 2020 at 08:17:15 AM EST
    while it is certainly minority, it's a pretty hefty minority, able to cause substantial damage, absent being neutered. how we neuter them I have no clue.

    That's easy. (none / 0) (#14)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Mon Aug 10, 2020 at 04:27:23 PM EST
    cpinva: "while it is certainly minority, it's a pretty hefty minority, able to cause substantial damage, absent being neutered. how we neuter them I have no clue."

    Convince them that by taking hydroxychloroquine with a Pine-Sol chaser, they'll win one for the Gipper.

    Oh, wait, they can't be told to win one for the Gipper, because the Reagan Foundation has formally requested that the Trump campaign and the RNC cease invoking Ronald Reagan's image and mystique to support GOP fundraising efforts.

    Wow. Even the ghost of Ronald Reagan has deserted the Republicans.

    >;-D

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    Personally responsible for thousands of deaths (none / 0) (#5)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Aug 10, 2020 at 08:20:58 AM EST
    This is the case I think democrats should be making relentlessly.  It's what republicans would do.  Which is why they so often win.

    The Trump Pandemic
    A blow-by-blow account of how the president killed thousands of Americans.



    Worry about this (none / 0) (#6)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Aug 10, 2020 at 08:47:14 AM EST
    Carlson, Hannity & Ingraham

    New York Times: "In June and July, Fox News was the highest-rated television channel in the prime-time hours of 8 to 11 p.m. Not just on cable. Not just among news networks. All of television. The average live Fox News viewership in those hours outstripped cable rivals like CNN, MSNBC and ESPN, as well as the broadcast networks ABC, CBS and NBC."

    "That three-hour slot is a narrow but significant slice of TV real estate, and it is exceedingly rare for a basic-cable channel to outrank the Big Three broadcasters, which are available in more households and offer a wider variety of programming."

    And stop laughing about Carlson running for President.

    More footage of George Floyd's arrest (none / 0) (#7)
    by McBain on Mon Aug 10, 2020 at 10:13:13 AM EST
    has been leaked.
    The tapes show in minute detail how Floyd begs 'Mr. Officer, please don't shoot me. Please man,' before the struggle that ended with his death. It also shows how Floyd resisted as the cops tried to force him into the back of the car, telling them he suffers from claustrophobia and anxiety. The video begins with Lane knocking on Floyd's car window with a flashlight and once Floyd opens the door, Lane pulls out his gun and points it at Floyd's head.

    A few thoughts...

    • I'm still not sure why a gun was pointed at Floyd right away.
    • Floyd appears to have physical and/or emotional problems, telling the officer's he can't breathe before he's on the ground.
    • The comments on this video are much different than the comments from the early videos.


    What's the relevance of the comments? (none / 0) (#37)
    by Yman on Tue Aug 11, 2020 at 12:52:35 PM EST
    Other than a segment of the populace proudly displaying their ignorance on the internet?

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    Official (none / 0) (#8)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Aug 10, 2020 at 01:45:46 PM EST
    Is this "no excuse" absentee voting? (none / 0) (#10)
    by Peter G on Mon Aug 10, 2020 at 02:20:36 PM EST
    Or just relaxed deadlines?

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    I believe they specify the excuse (none / 0) (#11)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Aug 10, 2020 at 02:56:16 PM EST
    Governor Hutchinson signed an executive order Friday, officially allowing Arkansans concerned about COVID-19 to vote using absentee ballots in the upcoming election.



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    The best people (none / 0) (#12)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Aug 10, 2020 at 03:02:16 PM EST
    "The Trump administration's nominee to assume a critical ambassadorship in Germany is `dead on arrival,' according to three senior Republican congressional aides who pointed to Douglas Macgregor's insinuation that a cadre of American Jews are manipulating U.S. foreign policy," the Washington Free Beacon reports.



    The upside (none / 0) (#26)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Aug 11, 2020 at 07:26:55 AM EST
    "In many ways, the pandemic has proven to the country that politics really matters and who gets elected really matters in ways that few other events of our lifetimes have done."

    -- GOP pollster Whit Ayres, quoted by the Washington Post.



    This (none / 0) (#28)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Aug 11, 2020 at 07:39:05 AM EST
    Been thinking about this.  I think I will vote in person.  Probably.  We have early voting that's never crowded

    Jamelle Bouie: "If Trump is leading on election night, in other words, there's a good chance he'll try to disrupt and delegitimize the counting process. That way, if Joe Biden pulls ahead in the days (or weeks) after voting ends -- if we experience a `blue shift' like the one in 2018, in which the Democratic majority in the House grew as votes came in -- the president will have given himself grounds to reject the outcome as `fake news.'"

    "The only way to prevent this scenario, or at least, rob it of the oxygen it needs to burn, is to deliver an election night lead to Biden. This means voting in person. No, not everyone will be able to do that. But if you plan to vote against Trump and can take appropriate precautions, then some kind of hand delivery -- going to the polls or bringing your mail-in ballot to a "drop box" -- will be the best way to protect your vote from the president's concerted attempt to undermine the election for his benefit."



    My plan (5.00 / 1) (#34)
    by MO Blue on Tue Aug 11, 2020 at 11:34:39 AM EST
    I will vote absentee and drop it off at Election Bureau drop off box.. Surprising MO allows everyone 65 and over to vote absentee. By dropping off early, I hope to avoid any Post Office delivery problems. Doubt my vote will count in anything other than in the popular vote but I will at least impact that.

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    Hawaii's an all-mail ballot state. (none / 0) (#87)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Thu Aug 13, 2020 at 08:02:29 PM EST
    We really don't have a choice, particularly in rural communities.

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    Tell everyone you know (none / 0) (#95)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Aug 14, 2020 at 10:32:17 AM EST
    Barack Obama: "Everyone depends on the USPS. Seniors for their Social Security, veterans for their prescriptions, small businesses trying to keep their doors open. They can't be collateral damage for an administration more concerned with suppressing the vote than suppressing a virus."

    "If you're in a state where you have the option to vote early, do that now. The more votes in early, the less likely you're going to see a last minute crunch, both at polling places and in states where mail-in ballots are permitted. Then tell everyone you know."



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    Maybe tomorrow (none / 0) (#35)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Aug 11, 2020 at 12:32:55 PM EST
    They said "middle of the week"

    The New York Times found a ballroom in Wilmington, Delaware at the Hotel du Pont being prepped for a big event -- presumably for Joe Biden's announcement of his running mate.

    "It is worth noting that the Hotel du Pont was where he announced his 1972 Senate candidacy. It is also where he has made major political appearances in the decades since -- including, in March, the last in-person event he held before the coronavirus shuttered the campaign trail for months."



    Trump to ban re-entry (none / 0) (#36)
    by KeysDan on Tue Aug 11, 2020 at 12:37:01 PM EST
    of US citizens or legal residents to the USA. Under a new draft regulation, which relies on legal authorities of the CDC, the federal government may block a citizen or legal resident from crossing the border or returning  to the US from abroad if an official "reasonably believes that the individual either may have been exposed to, or is in infected with, the communicable disease."

    According to reporting in the NYTimes, the ban on US citizens and foreigners who have already established legal residence is being proposed citing the risks of the spreading the coronavirus if the authorities have reason to believe the person may be infected. The draft does not state how long a citizen or legal resident would be required to remain outside of the US.  

    The Homeland Security spokesperson declined to comment and the CDC spokesperson said they would seek to gather more information about the proposal.

    A top immigration lawyer for The ACLU said quarantining citizens or lawful permanent residents for appropriate durations  is not per se unconstitutional, but any attempt to bar them for extended periods beyond that necessary for public health raises profound constitutional issues and will trigger a legal challenge.

    Another step to enable abuse, in my view.

    There's something fishy about this.. (5.00 / 1) (#45)
    by desertswine on Tue Aug 11, 2020 at 04:00:10 PM EST
    and dangerous.  I don't like this one bit.

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    Feels like they are setting us up (none / 0) (#39)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Aug 11, 2020 at 02:18:21 PM EST
    for an announcement about the announcement.

    Hope I'm wrong.

    I was! (none / 0) (#41)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Aug 11, 2020 at 03:09:23 PM EST
    To the surprise of almost no one, it's Sen Harris.

    Good.

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    Might not have read the book (none / 0) (#44)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Aug 11, 2020 at 03:40:40 PM EST
    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
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    9h
    Great new book by former Director of Oval Office Operations, Madeleine Westerhout, entitled "Off the Record". When I look at all of the Fake Books and garbage written about me, it's really nice to see a very smart and already wise young woman write an honest depiction of what....

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
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    ....went on at the White House during some extremely interesting and important times. So many good stories by someone who, unlike most other so called writers, was actually there, and a part of the action - of which there was plenty. Go buy this book, a job well done!

    In the book..


    Westerhout writes that she couldn't bring herself to vote for Trump, "a man whose values didn't seem to align with my own," but never said so because she "didn't want to risk upsetting" him or his inner circle who "see everything as black and white, which... is misguided and can be dangerous."


    Trump's executive action (none / 0) (#52)
    by KeysDan on Wed Aug 12, 2020 at 10:48:17 AM EST
    so as to provide $400/week unemployment benefits provided the States kick-in 25%, or $100, ran into trouble.  Governors of both parties registered opposition on the basis of already strapped financial conditions.  

    So, the plan is being re-considered so as to skip the mandatory state participation, other than the usual state unemployment eligibility benefit.  The new federal unemployment benefit will be $300, reduced from the $600/week that expired. July 31.  The federal benefit is to come from FEMA funds intended for emergencies such as hurricane disaster relief.  This money is estimated to provide for about five weeks of federal unemployment benefits before it runs out.

    Plus (none / 0) (#53)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Aug 12, 2020 at 10:54:54 AM EST
    There is no mechanism for distributing the money.  It could not be distributed the way the last one was.

    Or so I heard on teevee

    It would require a whole new bureaucracy for distribution which there is no money to create.

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    This sounds (none / 0) (#55)
    by KeysDan on Wed Aug 12, 2020 at 01:31:57 PM EST
    like socialism.  

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    Dragnet (none / 0) (#54)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Aug 12, 2020 at 11:34:58 AM EST
    One of my favorite new things since Sling TV is the channel Film Detective.   One of the things I record daily is Dragnet.

    It is such a time capsule.  It's really well done for the time.  The acting, the writing.  But such a time capsule.  It is the days Trump wants to return to.

    I'm watching today's episode  The Big Seventeen.  About the evils of marijuana.  While smoking my home delivered medical marijuana.  

    Life is a circle.

    The evils of marijana. (5.00 / 1) (#58)
    by KeysDan on Wed Aug 12, 2020 at 03:08:23 PM EST
    Trump would, no doubt, have a place for Harry Anslinger (1892-1975) in his administration, if he  were still available.  The former railroad cop and long-time head of the then Federal Bureau of Narcotics was the founding father of the war on drugs.  He served in the government from 1918 to 1963, encompassing the Dragnet period.  

    While flying under the historical radar more so than J. Edgar Hoover, Anslinger was no less a bureaucratic force for evil (although, he is often recognized for his expertise in narcotic drug control).

    After the obsolescence of prohibition, a new area was needed to secure funding.  Along came cannabis.

    Harry organized a hysterical propaganda program, writing in 1937, for example, "Here indeed is the unknown quantity among narcotics... no one knows  when he places a marijuana cigarette to his lips, whether he will become a philosopher, a joyous traveler in a musical heaven, a mad insensate, ..or a murderer."

    And, "Marijuana is an addictive drug which produces in its users insanity, criminality, and death."

    The NYTimes gave notice yesterday, in the Arts Section, of an exhibit, at the FDN museam in Arlington, VA. of the work of Anslinger. Of particular interest to Trump would be his racist bent, even for the times.  This often neglected part of Anslinger's past, appears to have been a part of his zeal.

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    History I never heard (none / 0) (#61)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Aug 12, 2020 at 03:35:14 PM EST
    As far as I know.  I do remember reading that the Hurst empire was a big driver of reefer madness because hemp, cheap and easily renewable, was big competition with trees for the production of things like paper.  And other things.

    Trees that were mostly owned by the Hurst empire.  I can imaging mutual back scratching.

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    Secret summits (none / 0) (#56)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Aug 12, 2020 at 02:05:12 PM EST
    Oh to be a fly

    Jared Kushner Met with Kanye West

    August 12, 2020 at 12:18 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard 98 Comments

    Jared Kushner met privately last weekend with Kanye West, the rapper who has filed petitions to get on the November ballots for president in several states, the New York Times reports.



    Paul Howard loses run off in Atlanta (none / 0) (#59)
    by McBain on Wed Aug 12, 2020 at 03:22:51 PM EST
    to Fani Willis.  Howard is the DA who brought charges against the two officers involved in the Rayshard Brooks shooting death.
    Sounds like he did some good things in his career...
    Howard will step down with a mixed record. While his handling of the trial of NFL player Ray Lewis and two others charged with murder after a Super Bowl party in 2000 was deemed a failure (Lewis pleaded guilty to obstruction; the other men were acquitted), his successes were many.
    His controversial decision to prosecute teachers and administrators in the Atlanta Public School cheating scandal ended with 11 defendants convicted on racketeering and other charges. Howard has also proudly promoted his Project Level Up program, aimed at curbing recidivism, and his Conviction Integrity Unit. As part of that effort, his office took another look at the Atlanta child murders of 1979-1981. It also freed an inmate serving a life sentence on a drug offense.

    but the Brooks case charges were criticized by many...

    Howard's critics decried the decision as hasty, saying it leap-frogged a state investigation and appeared aimed at scoring political points amid a heated re-election campaign. The Georgia Sheriffs' Association called the charges a "grandstanding vote-seeking tactic." Howard denied the accusations, lauding his record of charging dozens of police officers since taking office in 1997.

    Hopefully, Willis will take another look a the case.

    In addition to judgments (none / 0) (#62)
    by KeysDan on Wed Aug 12, 2020 at 03:40:35 PM EST
    made in these cases, Mr. Howard's electoral prospects may have been impacted by ethics concerns.  Shortly before the election, he paid a state ethics fine of $6,500 for failing to reveal that he was CEO of two non-profits, one of which netted him $195,000 in City grant money.

    There is also an ongoing criminal investigation for cushioning his own pay with $195,000 of a $250,000 grant.  

    Fani Willis finished first in the primary, Paul Howard was second.


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    Here's an interview with Fani Willis (none / 0) (#76)
    by McBain on Thu Aug 13, 2020 at 11:34:35 AM EST
    where she talks about the Brooks case and other issues.

    She makes it sound like Howard's attempt to use the Brooks case "clearly for his political benefit" could mean the case will be moved out of Fulton County.  She also says plans to "look at all the evidence, look at the facts and make charging decisions".  

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    Trump acts to roll back (none / 0) (#60)
    by KeysDan on Wed Aug 12, 2020 at 03:25:08 PM EST
    showerhead efficiency requirements set in 1992 by Daddy Bush. Trump complained that the low pressure plumbing created problems washing his "beautiful hair."

    He washes his hair (5.00 / 4) (#64)
    by MO Blue on Wed Aug 12, 2020 at 03:45:30 PM EST
    LOL I would have thought he would need to have it dry cleaned.

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    This reminds (none / 0) (#67)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Aug 12, 2020 at 07:36:55 PM EST
    me that John Bolton said Trump spends 2 hours a day on hair and makeup and the makeup is 30 minutes of those 2 hours. Maybe this is one of the reasons why he doesn't show up to work until 11:00 a.m. or later.

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    I think Kamala really scares them (none / 0) (#63)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Aug 12, 2020 at 03:43:13 PM EST
    "In the day after the ex-veep and presumptive Democratic nominee announced his running mate, Fox News hosts pushed a number of unsupported theories largely centered around two themes: Harris forced her way onto the ticket and intends to usurp or overtaken Biden; and/or Biden is not mentally capable of selecting his own running mate, and so Harris was installed by a shadowy, unseen puppeteer."

    This is good.

    Disqusting (none / 0) (#65)
    by KeysDan on Wed Aug 12, 2020 at 05:21:59 PM EST
    Eric Trump liked a tweet of a MAGAt that called Senator Harris  "whorendous".  

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    Don't want to say this too loud (none / 0) (#66)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Aug 12, 2020 at 06:42:36 PM EST
    But I am halfway through my third month of free HBO.  They seem unable to disconnect me.  Or unwilling

    I honestly don't know.  I just know I am not  paying for it.  I cancelled and replaced the only card they can, in this case, charge.

    I have been waiting for my gravy train to end so I can just get HBO MAX as an add on to HULU.  so far no need.

    Weird.

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    SITE VIOLATOR (none / 0) (#71)
    by jmacWA on Thu Aug 13, 2020 at 08:44:21 AM EST
    PERSISTENT TOO.

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    SITE VIOLATOR (none / 0) (#73)
    by jmacWA on Thu Aug 13, 2020 at 08:45:08 AM EST
    SITE VIOLATOR (none / 0) (#81)
    by Peter G on Thu Aug 13, 2020 at 03:10:39 PM EST
    Bloomberg should fund the post office (none / 0) (#74)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Aug 13, 2020 at 11:28:51 AM EST
    He could totally afford it.  It's the best way of screwing Trump.

    Is this legal?

    If so let start a petition.

    It would be a completely (none / 0) (#75)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Aug 13, 2020 at 11:33:44 AM EST
    Non partisan act.

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    Bill Barr, average guy. (none / 0) (#77)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Aug 13, 2020 at 12:03:25 PM EST
    President Trump told Fox News that he hopes U.S. Attorney John Durham, who is investigating the origins of the Russia probe, is "not going to be politically correct" and warned that Attorney General William Barr could go down as "the greatest attorney general" or just "an average guy" -- depending on what comes out of the monthslong probe.

    Said Trump: "They spied on my campaign, which is treason. They spied, both before and after I won, using the intelligence apparatus of the United States to take down a president, a legally elected president, a duly elected president of the United States. It is the single biggest political crime in the history of our country."

    He added: "Bill Barr can go down as the greatest attorney general in the history of our country, or he can go down as an average guy. We'll see what happens."



    He has no idea of the definition (none / 0) (#82)
    by Chuck0 on Thu Aug 13, 2020 at 05:21:31 PM EST
    of treason. If he could read, he could look it up. What a concept.

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    This war on the post office (none / 0) (#78)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Aug 13, 2020 at 02:45:10 PM EST
    just seems insane to me.  It's not even that he said in an interview he's is blocking federal aid to the PO to make it impossible to vote by mail.  Confession or projection.

    It's that he doesn't understand how important the PO is to regular people.  Russel Honore was just on MSNBC raving and ranting.  Explaining his prescriptions are not coming and while he can go the Walgreens some can not.

    This can not end well for Trump.

    Yes, (none / 0) (#79)
    by Ga6thDem on Thu Aug 13, 2020 at 03:05:01 PM EST
    even my Trumper senators and rep get this is a big problem. I called everyone of them today telling them about how the post office situation is holding up help for people from charities, prescriptions and a whole host of things. It's so basic that even those with their heads rammed up Trump's behind understand how deadly this is.

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    Keep digging (none / 0) (#83)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Aug 13, 2020 at 05:23:42 PM EST
    "The United States Postal Service is removing mail sorting machines from facilities around the country without any official explanation or reason given, Motherboard has learned through interviews with postal workers and union officials."

    "In many cases, these are the same machines that would be tasked with sorting ballots, calling into question promises made by Postmaster General Louis DeJoy that the USPS has `ample capacity' to handle the predicted surge in mail-in ballots."



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    Link (none / 0) (#84)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Aug 13, 2020 at 05:25:03 PM EST
    I hope the postal workers' union (none / 0) (#85)
    by Peter G on Thu Aug 13, 2020 at 06:42:37 PM EST
    sues them immediately. I cannot think of any other way to stop this campaign of sabotage, since Congress is, as always, MIA.

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    Inquirer tonight (none / 0) (#89)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Aug 13, 2020 at 08:38:57 PM EST
    I knew it all along! (5.00 / 1) (#90)
    by Peter G on Thu Aug 13, 2020 at 09:04:04 PM EST
    It's a conspiracy to keep me and ChuckO from voting. I applied on line for my mail ballot yesterday.

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    Mitch and the White Boys (5.00 / 2) (#92)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Aug 14, 2020 at 08:19:58 AM EST
    Are gone until the second week of September

    I feel sure they are going to hear enough about this between now and then that there's will be money for the post office when they finally pass something.

    Because this is going to blow up in their face.  A couple of weeks of veterans and old people not getting prescriptions should do it.

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    yep. Here's one example, (none / 0) (#93)
    by leap on Fri Aug 14, 2020 at 08:55:21 AM EST
    from a commenter on a blog I've been reading for years:
    Has the Post Office disaster affected you? My mortgage bill arrived the same day it was due, and some medical supplies arrived 2 weeks late. The bank told me to note the due date and just pay by phone, for a mere $7 fee. I live 60 seconds from the bank drive-through...seven bucks is enough for an old retiree to buck at that bullshit.


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    Votevets (none / 0) (#94)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Aug 14, 2020 at 09:10:47 AM EST
    Forget The Post Office. Trump Just Went To War With Veterans And The Military.

    In the noon Pacific hour, 3 PM Eastern, Brian Williams of MSNBC had retired US army general Russell Honore, the Hero of Katrina on to discuss Trump's tinkering with the post office to try to alter the validity of mail in ballots. Honore was coldly outraged. He spoke about how he, as a veteran, relied on timely postal delivery for necessary medications to his door. Honore noted that only today, facing a delayed shipment of medications, he had been forced to make alternate arrangements and drive to a Walgreen's to get his prescription. He angrily decried the similar situation for his brothers and sisters who wore the cloth of this country, but didn't have the option of going to a drug store for a refill.

    And apparently Honore isn't the only veteran who is mightily pissed. Veterans share a nostalgic bond with the post office, they are the ones who made sure that letters and cookies from home got through, and made sure that their absentee ballots were delivered in time to fill out and return.  And the others who are equally pissed off are the ones who have the money to put where their collective mouth is. Earlier today, votevets.org released a blistering condemnation of Trump's antics;



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    Lehigh County (none / 0) (#96)
    by jmacWA on Fri Aug 14, 2020 at 10:32:27 AM EST
    I know it's not your county Peter, but Lehigh county says they are not even going to start processing the requests they have for mail-in ballots until September 14.  I decided to register Democratic so I could vote in the primary, and requested mail-in ballot with the 'forever' option at that time... so I am good to go.  My wife didn't request hers until 3 weeks ago, and when we didn't hear we inquired and that's when we found out that Lehigh won't even start looking at the request until 9/14.

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    I am signed up for a mail in ballot (none / 0) (#109)
    by Chuck0 on Fri Aug 14, 2020 at 01:01:59 PM EST
    for the general in November. However, with all that's going on now with the USPS, I am giving serious consideration to canceling it and voting in person. There are always lines at my polling place and I cannot stand for more than a few minutes. I am thinking about renting a wheelchair for election day just so I can vote in person. Mask wearing compliance here is 50/50, so I'll have to chance my health to vote.

    The local grocery chain won't enforce compliance. It upsets my wife so much that I went so far as to file a compliant with the state health dept (shout out to Dr. Levine). I got a reply from the Agriculture Dept. This is a grocery store that is within 5 miles of the Governor's home. I pointed that out in my complaint. Wife says compliance is still iffy and there is no one at the door to enforce compliance. She has starting going to a different store, same chain, but they have someone at the door to enforce mask compliance.

    This country is in a state of complete chaos. I never, ever thought I would witness this in the United States.

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    Are there drop boxes (none / 0) (#112)
    by MO Blue on Fri Aug 14, 2020 at 01:28:27 PM EST
    available for depositing your mail in ballot? Also, here in Missouri we are allowed to vote absentee early at the office of the (St. Louis County) Board Of Elections or drop it off at their office.

    I have voted absentee at the Board of Elections. If you do it early in the cycle, there is no line and the process is very quick. A drop off box there would probably be the most efficient option for you. It also by passes the Post Office.

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    No early voting in PA. (none / 0) (#114)
    by Chuck0 on Fri Aug 14, 2020 at 01:55:06 PM EST
    Don't understand why. Don't know about drpboxes. I think PA has some postmark requirement. I nned to do some research.

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    Call the (none / 0) (#115)
    by MO Blue on Fri Aug 14, 2020 at 02:06:44 PM EST
    Board of Elections for your county. I called them and was able to find out all my options on how to safely vote without going to the polls on Election Day. They were extremely helpful.

    Missouri does not have early voting, per se. They do allow you to vote absentee at the Board of Elections prior to Election Day.

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    The issue of drop boxes (none / 0) (#117)
    by MO Blue on Fri Aug 14, 2020 at 02:39:23 PM EST
    in PA is before the court at this moment. Looks hopeful that they will be allowed.

    A Trump-appointed federal judge demanded that the President's campaign put up or shut up by Friday in regards to evidence that mail-in voting is rife with fraud.

    "Plaintiffs shall produce such evidence in their possession, and if they have none, state as much," ordered U.S. District Judge J. Nicholas Ranjan in Pittsburgh.
    ...
    The Trump campaign and RNC filed a lawsuit at the end of June seeking to block Pennsylvania from using drop boxes for voters to submit their ballots. It claimed that letting voters drop their ballots off at any drop box was a violation of state law as well as the U.S. Constitution

    .

    TPM

    I would still call the Board of Elections and pursue all of your options.

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    Lawdy Lawdy (none / 0) (#88)
    by Ga6thDem on Thu Aug 13, 2020 at 08:19:52 PM EST
    Michael Cohen said the golden showers actually happened and it was prostitutes but just not Russian ones and it happened in Vegas. Gives new meaning to what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas.

    I guess the rage tweeting is going to start soon.

    Here we go (none / 0) (#97)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Aug 14, 2020 at 10:52:37 AM EST
    New York Times: "The lawyer, Kevin Clinesmith, 38, who was assigned to the Russia investigation, plans to admit that he altered an email from the CIA that investigators relied on to seek renewed court permission in 2017 for a secret wiretap on the former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page, who had at times provided information to the spy agency."

    "Mr. Clinesmith had written texts expressing opposition to President Trump, who is sure to tout the plea agreement as evidence that the Russia investigation was illegitimate and politically motivated."

    NYTimes

    I have no problem with dropping the hammer (5.00 / 2) (#111)
    by Peter G on Fri Aug 14, 2020 at 01:15:47 PM EST
    on each and every FBI agent who alters evidence or lies in a warrant application (or on the witness stand). My only problem is with selective prosecution of such cases. When agents do it to regular people in low-profile cases, DoJ happily relies on their work and defends them to the hilt. I have a problem with treating it as an outrage only when they do the same to someone with Republican connections.

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    Probably means (none / 0) (#98)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Aug 14, 2020 at 10:54:19 AM EST
    An extended "briefing" this afternoon.

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    Press conference (none / 0) (#100)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Aug 14, 2020 at 11:51:47 AM EST
    This hour.

     It should be worth the time.  Even with the sound down.

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    It begins (none / 0) (#99)
    by Abdul Abulbul Amir on Fri Aug 14, 2020 at 11:24:38 AM EST

    Some justice or Carter Page.

    The NYT quote in the post above minimizes what was done. "Altered an email". Was that change of line spacing, capitalization, added bold or underline, NO. It was an alteration to make Page's Russia contacts appear sinister where the CIA was in the know and approved.

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    And it ends (5.00 / 1) (#125)
    by Yman on Sat Aug 15, 2020 at 07:36:33 AM EST
    I know the Faux-News-24-7 crowd eats this garbage like it's ice cream, but this begins and ends with Clinesmith.  But it saves you guys a little $$ on blue pills ...

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    Why did (none / 0) (#106)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Aug 14, 2020 at 12:24:37 PM EST
    Carter Page lie about his contacts with the Russians if it was no big deal?

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    Doesn't (none / 0) (#105)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Aug 14, 2020 at 12:19:35 PM EST
    help Trump with the whole "illegally spying" on his campaign if it was about a renewal of a wiretap in 2017.

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    Just to beat Abdul to the punch (none / 0) (#107)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Aug 14, 2020 at 12:25:19 PM EST
    The way you put, it does, actually.

    This is 24/on FOX until further notice.

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    Isn't this (none / 0) (#122)
    by KeysDan on Fri Aug 14, 2020 at 05:39:59 PM EST
    old news?

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    Brilliant man (none / 0) (#104)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Aug 14, 2020 at 12:16:31 PM EST
    Genius.  Who wants to see republicans anyway.  The problem has been there's just not enough you

    Trump Will Be Featured Every Night of Convention

    August 14, 2020 at 1:15 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard Leave a Comment

    "President Trump will be featured each day of the Republican National Convention, say officials involved in planning it, a departure from previous nominating events when candidates were showcased on the final night," the Wall Street Journal reports.



    My streaming services (none / 0) (#110)
    by MO Blue on Fri Aug 14, 2020 at 01:07:29 PM EST
    will be used full time during Trump's nonstop assault on the air ways. Can't stand watching him or listening to his whining.

    I will be binge watching several series that interest me.

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    And you can't (none / 0) (#113)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Aug 14, 2020 at 01:32:40 PM EST
    avoid him unless you are on Netflix or some other streaming service since I'm sure even MSNBC is going to carry the GOP convention.

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    I reconfigured my (none / 0) (#116)
    by MO Blue on Fri Aug 14, 2020 at 02:16:46 PM EST
    streaming options when we were encouraged to stay at home due to the virus.

    I have Hulu, HBO and Netflix so I have numerous movie and series options. I plan to get my news online rather than watch it on the TV. I also have loaded multiple ebooks (offered by library) available to read.

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    I have been (none / 0) (#121)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Aug 14, 2020 at 04:57:22 PM EST
    getting my news online forever. It has been the best way for me to manage my news consumption. I have friends that do nothing but watch cable news and are constantly upset. I can't live like that. Sounds like you have it going on with streaming!

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    Because it would hurt ME (none / 0) (#118)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Aug 14, 2020 at 03:00:34 PM EST
    Did I mention it's about me?

    Sen. Susan Collins (R-ME) said that "efforts by the U.S. Postal Service to cut costs could backfire amid reported mail delays in Maine and across the country and reiterated support to increase funding to the embattled agency," the Bangor Daily News reports.



    The Lincoln Project (none / 0) (#119)
    by KeysDan on Fri Aug 14, 2020 at 03:20:47 PM EST
    Julian Bream 1933-2020 (none / 0) (#127)
    by desertswine on Sat Aug 15, 2020 at 04:58:53 PM EST
    Virtuoso guitarist.

    Julian Bream, the English musician who pushed the guitar beyond its Spanish roots and expanded its range by commissioning dozens of works from major composers, and who also played a crucial role in reviving the lute as a modern concert instrument, died on Friday at his home in Wiltshire, England. He was 87.