9k New Cases Today in Florida

TrumpVirus Update: Florida reached 9,000 new cases today, up from its 5,000 record a few days ago. It has ordered bars to close. Too little, too late, of course, just like Texas.

Unlike Birx who is thanking millenials for getting tested, I have no nice words for them. Faucio agrees they are the culprit, but is too nice to criticize them.

Will the 65 + age group ever be able to safely leave their homes, return to work, go to dinner in outdoor parking lot or hug their grandkids? Looks more and more like the answer is "No". Forever shut-ins. Remember when Trump said, open the schools, let all the teachers, except those over 70, return? That will probably be the new normal for all jobs and professions. Your accountant (plumber, electrician, lawyer, shop owner, chef, etc) is too old to safely be in public? Just hire or patronize a younger one.

In the meantime, MASK UP AMERICA and stay home if you can.

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    Proverbs, Chapter 1 (5.00 / 1) (#14)
    by Repack Rider on Fri Jun 26, 2020 at 10:12:46 PM EST
    Nothing is certain except death in Texas.

    If priests and rabbis are forced to wear masks while delivering sermons, it will be a blessing in disguise.

    No pun intended (none / 0) (#20)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Jun 27, 2020 at 11:26:24 AM EST
    Or maybe it was.

    Goldman Sachs (5.00 / 1) (#32)
    by KeysDan on Tue Jun 30, 2020 at 12:30:50 PM EST
    says a national mask mandate could slash infections and help the economcy.

    Goldman's chief economist has studied the link between face masks and Covid-19 health and economic outcomes and translated those results into GDP impact.  It was found that a mask mandate could substitute for lockdowns that would subtract nearly 5% from growth.

    Maybe this will get Republican's attention, not the part about public health, but the money part.

    Are you watching Biden? (5.00 / 3) (#33)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jun 30, 2020 at 12:41:46 PM EST
    It's strange.  He's not inspiring.  He is coming across as lucid.  But the odd thing I realized is that just watching it was kind of......soothing.  

    Promising to do all the things we would normally expect a president to do.  Talking about letting the science decide.  Just soothing.

    we all know how I feel about Biden.  I am surprised by it myself but, soothing.


    Yes, Biden (none / 0) (#38)
    by KeysDan on Tue Jun 30, 2020 at 01:59:03 PM EST
    was re-assuring and comforting.  A straight shooter.  The Democratic primary voters selected well for the times.

    I think it's soothing because (5.00 / 1) (#46)
    by smott on Thu Jul 02, 2020 at 07:20:09 AM EST
    We know he's basically competent, and we are so exhausted of having to worry about politics and the state of the nation every damn day.
    We need a break.

    I agree (none / 0) (#47)
    by Ga6thDem on Thu Jul 02, 2020 at 10:11:23 AM EST
    I think the burnout is so massive and the gas lighting has been so routine that frankly Biden represents a break from all of that. Also nobody expects Biden to be some sort of savior. It seems the last 20 years have been about savior politics and I for one will be glad to see it end.

    Soothing (none / 0) (#48)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jul 02, 2020 at 11:30:51 AM EST
    Biden tweet from yesterday

    Joe Biden
    I'll read my daily briefings.

    Protests that saw screaming and yelling with mask and distance protocols widely ignored. Maybe not just a coincidence.

    Politico (5.00 / 4) (#6)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jun 26, 2020 at 07:20:37 PM EST
    Stupid GOP talking (5.00 / 3) (#7)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Jun 26, 2020 at 07:26:46 PM EST

    There were protests all over the country and yet places like NY saw no increase. You guys are always looking for someone or something to blame your screw ups on aren't you?


    New York (2.00 / 1) (#15)
    by Abdul Abulbul Amir on Sat Jun 27, 2020 at 05:29:51 AM EST
    Is on the back side of Farr's law, and the most vulnerable are no longer around to be infected.

    Another excuse (5.00 / 3) (#18)
    by Ga6thDem on Sat Jun 27, 2020 at 08:57:06 AM EST
    There are still people in nursing homes. There are still very vulnerable people. You guys are unbelievably disgusting celebrating people dying.

    You're talking about ... (5.00 / 4) (#12)
    by Yman on Fri Jun 26, 2020 at 08:38:08 PM EST
    ... all those "Re-open!"" proests with the ammo$exuals prancing around playing soldier while crying about the fact that they can't get a haircut?

    "Maybe not."


    Spike in new cases of Trump staff (5.00 / 3) (#16)
    by MO Blue on Sat Jun 27, 2020 at 07:45:03 AM EST
    after Tulsa rally.

    Campaign staff, Secret Service members, WH Economist and a reporter covering the rally all tested positive for COVID-19. Secret Service members, campaign staff members,as well as Trump's campaign manager are under quarantine. Trump wanted a rally to help him get over the "sads," others paid the price.

    All of the staffers who attended the rally are quarantining this week after interacting with several colleagues who later tested positive for the coronavirus, CNN reported. Among those self-isolating is campaign manager Brad Parscale, campaign spokesman Tim Murtaugh confirmed to the Daily Beast .

    "Forever shut-ins?" (none / 0) (#1)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Fri Jun 26, 2020 at 02:44:06 PM EST

    Sarc, (none / 0) (#3)
    by fishcamp on Fri Jun 26, 2020 at 04:10:05 PM EST
    I can catch grouper right off my dock...sometimes.

    Wow. Must be pretty deep. (none / 0) (#21)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Sat Jun 27, 2020 at 11:40:54 AM EST
    I'm going to try to get out in my kayak tomorrow...

    Forever shut-ins (none / 0) (#4)
    by KeysDan on Fri Jun 26, 2020 at 04:34:53 PM EST
    until immunity from a vaccine that works to prevent infection safely for a specific period of time. Moreover, that vaccine needs to be produced and delivered to everyone quickly.

    Some early studies present worry that recovered or asymptomatic patients develop weak antibodies that may be effective for only a few months, leaving carriers vulnerable to repeat infections.

    If these studies bear out, hopes of "herd immunity" as a way of dealing with the virus will be dashed. Besides, herd immunity will require a large percentage (50 to 60 percent) of the population to have been infected. And, if the death rate is one percent (probably greater), that  leaves a lot of fatalities in a country of 328 million.

    Perhaps a more hopeful possibility is for a pharmacological remedy that could, at least, make the infection less lethal/toxic and more manageable.


    So, not forever. (none / 0) (#22)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Sat Jun 27, 2020 at 11:43:04 AM EST
    Unfortunately I believe it's 10 k new cases today. (none / 0) (#2)
    by fishcamp on Fri Jun 26, 2020 at 04:08:39 PM EST

    Sorry I posted the wrong number (none / 0) (#17)
    by fishcamp on Sat Jun 27, 2020 at 08:37:18 AM EST
    of corona virus cases in Florida.  My kooky neighbor told me that and I should have known better.  He's the one who has a fire pit in his front yard with a roaring, smokey fire going every night, even when it's 84 degrees out.

    Some republicans are starting to see (none / 0) (#8)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jun 26, 2020 at 07:30:33 PM EST
    The writing on the wall.

    Liz Cheney posts photo of former VP in face mask and says 'real men wear masks'

    I know former Trump supporters who are horrified that he has politicized masks.

    Of all the stupid needlessly destructive idiotic things Trump and his mouth breathing followers have done I think this might be the most stupid.

    And many people are seeing it that way finally.  I remember a saying about how imminent death can focus the mind.

    Trump seems to be testing the limits of his cults commitment

    Masks are the work of the devil (5.00 / 1) (#9)
    by MO Blue on Fri Jun 26, 2020 at 08:04:24 PM EST
    "They want to throw God's wonderful breathing system out the door," said Sylvia during the public comment session.

    "All of you are practicing the Devil's law," said Cristina, who promised a citizen's arrest for those who are going against the "freedom of choice."

    "Every single one of you that are obeying the devil's laws are going to be arrested." she said.


    Sometimes I wonder if there is any hope that the country will regain some sanity.


    Muzzling is not, (5.00 / 1) (#11)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jun 26, 2020 at 08:28:46 PM EST
    I think, the appropriate solution for mad dogs.

    Florida man melts down in crazed anti-mask town hall appearance: `I will not be muzzled like a mad dog'

    But there is a solution.


    I don't know (none / 0) (#13)
    by MO Blue on Fri Jun 26, 2020 at 10:05:07 PM EST
    He looked kinda like a mad dog to me.  

    This is really (none / 0) (#10)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Jun 26, 2020 at 08:16:15 PM EST
    a serious concern. But this is the job of the GOP to fix. They created these monsters. And honestly we can't fix the monsters. They would never listen to what we have to say anyway.

    Toto, we're not in Kansas (none / 0) (#19)
    by jondee on Sat Jun 27, 2020 at 09:16:15 AM EST
    anymore, we're in Florida.

    Even Mitch McConnell tweeted encouraging (5.00 / 1) (#27)
    by ruffian on Tue Jun 30, 2020 at 10:14:39 AM EST
    mask wearing. They are panicking.

    Lamer Alexander just said (none / 0) (#28)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jun 30, 2020 at 11:04:31 AM EST
    While opening that hearing that Trump should wear a mask

    If you take a step back,  this place we find ourselves in the middle of the worst public health emergency in a generation with almost literally every public official begging people to wear a mask and the president saying NOT WEARING ONE is a sign of your support for him and wearing one is showing opposition to him, simply does not seem sustainable.

    Some kind of intervention seem certain.

    But he won't do it.  To do it would be to lose.  He won't do it.  No matter what they say or how much they beg.  

    It would be headline news all over the world if he did this one simple thing so necessary for this country to ever get back to a kind of normal.  And he will not.  For that very reason.

    When you take a step that that seems unsustainable   Completely insane might be the new normal but I'm jus sayin.


    The opposite actually (none / 0) (#29)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jun 30, 2020 at 11:07:36 AM EST
    South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem (R) said the thousands of people who attend the July 3 celebration for Independence Day at Mount Rushmore with President Trump will not be required to practice social distancing despite an increase in coronavirus cases across the country, NBC News reports.

    Said Noem: "We will have a large event at July 3rd. We told those folks that have concerns that they can stay home, but those who want to come and join us, we'll be giving out free face masks, if they choose to wear one. But we will not be social distancing."

    But (none / 0) (#31)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jun 30, 2020 at 12:18:01 PM EST
    President Trump's campaign has scrapped plans to hold a rally in Alabama next weekend amid concerns about coronavirus infections rising, CNN reports.

    "Trump was slated to travel to the state ahead of the Senate race between his former attorney general Jeff Sessions and the former Auburn University football coach Tommy Tuberville, but plans were called off as state officials voiced concerns about a mass gathering and campaign officials ultimately decided against it."

    That's Alabama state officials who voiced concerns.


    I only post them if they are funny (none / 0) (#30)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jun 30, 2020 at 11:16:43 AM EST

    Donald J. Trump

    Actual tweet from 1 hour ago


    What the effin' eff? (5.00 / 2) (#34)
    by jondee on Tue Jun 30, 2020 at 12:44:33 PM EST
    With any luck, he'll put on a cape and try to fly off the top of a building.

    Someone on twitter replied (5.00 / 2) (#36)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jun 30, 2020 at 12:49:12 PM EST

    Warrior? (5.00 / 1) (#39)
    by Zorba on Tue Jun 30, 2020 at 04:12:54 PM EST
    The Loon Warrior?
    The Lone Worrier?

    The Loan Worrier? (5.00 / 2) (#40)
    by Yman on Tue Jun 30, 2020 at 07:08:52 PM EST

    I saw this with Chuck Terd (none / 0) (#23)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Jun 27, 2020 at 12:22:36 PM EST
    Arkansas Gov. Asa Hutchinson (R) told MSNBC there needs to be a "consistent national message" from President Trump on wearing face masks during the coronavirus pandemic.

    Said Hutchinson: "A consistent national message supporting the importance of wearing a mask and social distancing is very important to making sure everybody understands the importance of it. Nothing beats leadership. Certainly it's important to convey the importance of that."

    I was a little pleased.  He was very clear.  And it was clear who he was talking to.  

    The thing is I think this is symptom of Trumps softening  support in my state.  Sounds like he is hearing from Arkansans  the same thing I'm hearing.which is basically WTF?  This is nuts.

    I have mentioned before that since March things have changed.  

    I wish (none / 0) (#24)
    by Ga6thDem on Sat Jun 27, 2020 at 03:00:43 PM EST
    The same thing was going on here. Kemp is still spewing the same garbage about masks

    Many people still don't wear them (none / 0) (#25)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Jun 27, 2020 at 05:51:54 PM EST
    It must be maddening for a guy like Hutchinson.  He seems a pretty no BS right of center with libertarian tendencies.
    Something I myself have sometimes against my better judgement.

    But the central tenet of libertarian republicanism is personal responsibility.   So they say.  So they, reasonably I think, expect if people are given good information they will do what's right.

    And I am actually surprised how many of my neighbors have done that.  But then there is Trump.  Telling people not to wear masks.  It is Hutchinson's worst nightmare.  Trump is forcing him to make rules when if he would just shut up people would do it like every place else on earth.

    They are considering rules here.


    For what it's worth (none / 0) (#26)
    by CST on Tue Jun 30, 2020 at 09:13:57 AM EST
    There's not much of an age difference in terms of who is wearing masks and who isn't.


    The people who "always" wear a mask does go up slightly by age but the number of people who don't wear masks is roughly the same in every age group. All things considered, there doesn't seem to be any significant correlation between age and mask wearing.

    Biden's last question is broadly about masks (none / 0) (#35)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jun 30, 2020 at 12:48:10 PM EST
    It will be "the sound bite"

    It's a good answer.

    Ok (none / 0) (#37)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jun 30, 2020 at 12:54:24 PM EST
    The LAST question was about "cognitive capability"

    Actually that will probably be "the sound bite"


    Fauchi (none / 0) (#41)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jun 30, 2020 at 09:45:44 PM EST
    Said today we are headed for 100,000 new cases a day.  Others later said that was probably optimistic.

    Trump said, again, (none / 0) (#42)
    by KeysDan on Wed Jul 01, 2020 at 05:39:18 PM EST
    that the corona virus will soon disappear. And, lo and behold, he says face masks are OK if you want to wear one. Indeed, he has worn one, a black one, and he thinks he looks good.  Like The Lone Ranger.

    Maybe Tonto will tell him that the Lone Ranger's mask it not the right kind. We know none of his quivering staff will tell him.

    I thought that LR comment (5.00 / 1) (#43)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jul 01, 2020 at 05:48:02 PM EST
    Was maybe what he thought was a sly bit of humor in referencing this image that popped up in one of his tweet threads

    Lone Ranger.  Oh, yeah.  Funny.


    Lone Ranger (5.00 / 1) (#45)
    by Peter G on Wed Jul 01, 2020 at 07:42:32 PM EST
    Lone Warrior. Mask over nose and mouth. Mask on eyes. Whatever. Like he cares.

    Lone (none / 0) (#44)
    by FlJoe on Wed Jul 01, 2020 at 05:57:18 PM EST
    warrior, lone ranger, starting to to see a pattern here.

    Representative Andy Biggs (R.AZ) (none / 0) (#49)
    by KeysDan on Thu Jul 02, 2020 at 04:02:22 PM EST
    and Chair of the Republican House Freedom Caucus, has called for the shuttering of the White House Coronavirus Task Force, since the government's top infectious disease/epidemiologists (e.g. Dr. Fauci and Dr. Birx) are contradicting and undermining Trump's stated goals.

    Biggs has also been a major critic of Republican Governor Doug Ducey for closing bars, water parks, and movie theaters.  The reporting of the highest daily virus cases in Arizona is, apparently, not a thing for him. Just Trump's goals. A perfect pair.

    They say it goes away (none / 0) (#50)
    by jondee on Thu Jul 02, 2020 at 04:39:37 PM EST
    when the warm weather comes.

    Trump should tell Arizona (none / 0) (#51)
    by MO Blue on Thu Jul 02, 2020 at 05:12:11 PM EST
    Temperatures in Arizona have been over 100 degrees for several weeks. If Covid-19 went away in warm weather, Arizona would be completely free of the virus.

    You know what? (none / 0) (#52)
    by Ga6thDem on Thu Jul 02, 2020 at 05:54:24 PM EST
    I didn't expect it to go away but I expected a quell of some sort. I guess it was inevitable it would get worse with people going on vacations. So here we are.