Feeling Thankful at Thanksgiving?

As of Friday, 2,900 people had died of COVID-19 in Colorado. 210,000 Coloradans were diagnosed with the disease. 81% of Colorado's ICU beds were in use as were 50% of the state's adult critical care ventilators. As of Saturday, 1 in every 49 Coloradans was contagious or infected.

Even Governor Jared Polis and the First Partner now have it.

Dr. Fauci was on TV today and he said we should prepare for a third wave. As for today's numbers:

More than 91,500 people were hospitalized with the virus on Saturday, with 18,000 in intensive care units. That's according to data compiled by the COVID Tracking Project, which collects and analyzes data from across the United States. Over 6,000 patients were on ventilators.

I hope everyone here found something to be thankful about. I was happy for the "alone" time. I made a lasagna instead of a turkey, and invited a single friend over. We ate outside on the balcony, seated 6 feet apart. [More...]

What's it like eating outside at the end of November in Colorado? Cold. But the views were really good.

So was the lasagna:

There was one piece left, but it didn't make it until Friday.

What did you do for the holiday? How did you feel about the photos of people at airports and traveling, thumbing their noses at warnings to stay home? I found them maddening. Either they all already had COVID and don't care about their fellow Americans, or they are simply stupid and selfish.

Ok, now that I've summed up the holiday, I'll move to TV.

Tonight is the final episdoe of the Undoing, the HBO show with Nicole Kidnman and Hugh Grant. I've kind of liked it. But who is the killer? We'll find out tonight. My prediction (and it's not a spoiler since I have no idea, it's just my opinion): the killer is the couple's female lawyer friend. Why? Her character was meaningless, unless she turns out to be huge at the end. She was the only character with no purpose whatsoever. She filled some empty screen time. Unless, of course, she also had had an affair with Jonathan , which Jonathan had broken off, and she killed her when she saw them together. My only hesitation about that ending: I think she would have killed Jonathan, not his lover. If it's not her, then I think the writers and showrunner did a poor job, it would have been much better to give the lawyer's time to the other lawyer, Haley, who everyone would be interested in.

No matter who did it, with only six episodes, it's a real who-done-it and I liked it much better the Knives Out movie. But, I also like both Nicole Kidnman and Hugh Grant.

That said, I recommend Tehran on Apple TV, and I forgot about another one, on Cinemax but you can watch for free this week, Trackers, about a terrorist plot (or not) in South Africa that has some interesting characters.

This is an open thread, all topics welcome.

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    America. Once again a model (5.00 / 3) (#22)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Dec 01, 2020 at 07:33:25 PM EST
    the world aspires to.

    Right Wing Hungarian Politician Suddenly Resigns

    December 1, 2020 at 8:17 pm EST By Taegan Goddard 40 Comments

    A senior conservative Hungarian politician abruptly announced his resignation from the European Parliament after the police broke up a party he attended in Brussels because it violated coronavirus restrictions, the New York Times reports.

    The party was described by Belgian media as "an all-male 0rgy"

    The wide stance goes global.  I hope they were at least masked.

    I try to be a good person. I try not (5.00 / 1) (#23)
    by Peter G on Tue Dec 01, 2020 at 08:31:47 PM EST
    to be prejudiced. But I have to admit a strong urge to hate all living Hungarians. Something about their ancestors trying to kill all my ancestors. I wish I were a better person.

    Agree.. (none / 0) (#30)
    by leap on Wed Dec 02, 2020 at 09:39:36 AM EST
    although I have to say, some of the funniest people I've known, who were friends of my parents, were Hungarian Jews. They were the lucky ones who got out of there, though.

    That's exactly my point. (none / 0) (#31)
    by Peter G on Wed Dec 02, 2020 at 03:02:32 PM EST
    It is not the Hungarian Jews that I am saying I have an urge to hate. Quite the contrary.

    Jozef Szager is (5.00 / 1) (#24)
    by KeysDan on Tue Dec 01, 2020 at 08:37:00 PM EST
    a close ally of Hungary's PM Orban. Beside the extra--curricular activity of attending the orgy held above the  gay bar, Le Detour, in central Brussels, Szager was the main author of Hungary's anti-gay legislation, including that marriage is between one man and one woman.

    This guy sounds like a tormented soul and this episode ended in the cartoonish way of having been caught by police sliding down the gutters in his vain attempt to escape.


    Not the least bit surprised (5.00 / 1) (#25)
    by Peter G on Tue Dec 01, 2020 at 09:35:30 PM EST
    "Szager was the main author of Hungary's anti-gay legislation" Of course he was.

    If he hadn't got caught, (5.00 / 1) (#27)
    by MO Blue on Wed Dec 02, 2020 at 12:12:21 AM EST
    He could of had a great career in the Republican Party.

    Happy Birthday, Fishcamp! (5.00 / 5) (#32)
    by vml68 on Wed Dec 02, 2020 at 03:28:12 PM EST

    Thanks auntie v... (5.00 / 3) (#34)
    by fishcamp on Wed Dec 02, 2020 at 04:17:01 PM EST
    Nice of you to remember even though I'm desperately trying to forget.  We got chilly last night at 55 degrees.  Today we have Wednesday afternoon NFL football, so I'm having an early boat drink.  A healthy holiday to all.

    Happy Birthday, fish (5.00 / 6) (#39)
    by Zorba on Wed Dec 02, 2020 at 05:29:27 PM EST
    May you enjoy good food and drink, great fishing, and above all, stay safe in the coming year.

    Greetings to (5.00 / 2) (#43)
    by KeysDan on Wed Dec 02, 2020 at 08:19:38 PM EST
    the Birthday Boy.    Best of everything---except to the fish.

    The stab in the back lie - reborn (5.00 / 1) (#49)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Dec 03, 2020 at 09:43:23 AM EST
    As crazy as this is, it's not funny.  At all.  This is circulating on the right already.  While we laugh at Rudy and the rest of the clown show there are people, organizing people - not just FB morons, who believe there is a method to the madness.  

    Read this wiki entry and do some word replacement and see if a tiny chill doesn't move over you.  Godwin's law doesn't even cover this.

    The stab-in-the-back myth (German: Dolchstoßlegende, pronounced [ˈdɔlçʃtoːsleˌɡɛndə] (About this soundlisten), lit. 'dagger stab legend')[a] was an antisemitic conspiracy theory, widely believed and promulgated in right-wing circles in Germany after 1918. The belief was that the German Army did not lose World War I on the battlefield but was instead betrayed by the civilians on the home front, especially Jews and the republicans who overthrew the Hohenzollern monarchy in the German Revolution of 1918-19. Advocates denounced the German government leaders who signed the Armistice on November 11, 1918 as the "November criminals" (German: November­verbrecher).

    [this term is already trending]

    An illustration from a 1919 Austrian postcard showing a caricatured Jew stabbing the German Army in the back with a dagger. The capitulation was blamed upon the unpatriotic populace, the Socialists, Bolsheviks, the Weimar Republic, and especially the Jews.

    An 1847 painting by Julius Schnorr von Carolsfeld of a scene from the epic poem Nibelungenlied ("Song of the Nibelungs") - which was the basis for Richard Wagner's opera Götterdämmerung: Hagen takes aim at Siegfried's back with a spear.
    When Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party came to power in 1933, they made the legend an integral part of their official history of the 1920s, portraying the Weimar Republic as the work of the "November criminals" who stabbed the nation in the back to seize power while betraying it. The Nazi propaganda depicted Weimar as "a morass of corruption, degeneracy, national humiliation, ruthless persecution of the honest 'national opposition'--fourteen years of rule by Jews, Marxists, and 'cultural Bolsheviks', who had at last been swept away by the National Socialist movement under Hitler and the victory of the 'national revolution' of 1933".[1]

    Historians inside and outside Germany unanimously reject the myth, pointing out the German army was out of reserves, was being overwhelmed by the entrance of the United States into the war, and by late 1918 had lost the war militarily.[2][3]

    and while we expect Trump might be in jail this time next year I would mention Hitler wrote Mein Kamph in jail I believe.

    As it has saved us so far, stupidity might be our only hope.  

    One afterthought, we should stop worrying about the poor sheep who have had the wool pulled over their eyes by Trump Inc.  99% of those people are in on the joke.  If you believe otherwise you are kidding yourself, IMO.  They know what he's doing and they are all in.  You only have to look Flynn openly advocating for martial law.  They know their audience.


    Yes, they are all in. (none / 0) (#52)
    by KeysDan on Thu Dec 03, 2020 at 12:00:35 PM EST
    Or, stupid or insane.  And, no reason not to be both.

    Roger Stone, Trump advisor and convicted liar whose sentence was commuted by Trump claims that North Korean boats delivered ballots through a harbor in Maine.  Evidence of fraud. Probably came in through Barr Harbor.


    This is great (5.00 / 1) (#54)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Dec 03, 2020 at 12:56:29 PM EST
    The importance of (5.00 / 1) (#68)
    by KeysDan on Sat Dec 05, 2020 at 03:05:43 PM EST
    the Georgia senate run-off is critical not only to the enactment of Biden/Harris proposed legislation, but also, to its being upheld upon Supreme Court review.

    Prior to the election, with seemingly good prospects for Democratic control of the senate, and in light of the rushed nomination of the Handmaiden, there was much discussion of Supreme Court reform, such as expanding/packing the Court.

    Since the election, the self-coup efforts of Trump in the Courts have been unsuccessful.  However, this may be the luck of incompetent lawyering and just plain old bad cases.

    However, some Supreme Court indications were unnerving, such as Alito's perambulations through state election law.

    Overall, it is clear that the country dodged a bullet. However, Court reform is of no less importance. Only moreso. But with a close Democratic majority, at best. And, with that majority including some not inclined toward Court expansion, a different, and possibly, equally effective, approach would be for Congress to change the certiorari process (rule of four) wherein the nine Justices, themselves, select the cases they hear.

     Justices can shop for facts/issues to pursue legal/ideological agendas. And, let it be known what cases it may be interested in, or how a case might be tweeted to be heard.  Indeed, Alito and Thomas have recently made it known that they would be up for a challenge to Obergefell, and Alito had long signaled his disdain for certain union practices and invited a case(such a case was heard by certiorari).

    The Judicial Act of 1925 permitted the Court to exercise discretion in forming its docket.  Congress can take that power away, as well.

    Various ideas have been proposed for change, such as allowing randomly selected and alternating panels of appellate judges to select cases. Appellate judges would seem to be in a good position to determine those cases that need adjudication by the Supreme Court.

    Chief Justice Roberts, in his confirmation, stated that the role of the justices was to call balls and strikes.  As it is, the also name the batter.

    Trump is set to take the stage in GA (5.00 / 1) (#70)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Dec 05, 2020 at 05:17:46 PM EST
    I really think tonight could be a breaking point.  If he goes completely coo coo bananas and makes things worse for Mitch.....

    I dunno.  I don't know if a breaking point is even a thing anymore but it's getting pretty crazy.

    President Trump demanded to know who the Republican lawmakers were who acknowledged President-elect Joe Biden as the winner of the presidential election when they were asked by the Washington Post.

    The newspaper has since updated the count to 27 Republicans

    OTOH he made jokes about the appearance of Teds wife and accused his father of killing JFK and he is his biggest cheerleader.

    If schadenfreude is a sin I'll risk it.

    Also Wolf just said 1 million new covid cases since Dec 1st and there is no masks or distance in the massive crowd waiting fir Cheeto.


    S GA (none / 0) (#71)
    by Ga6thDem on Sat Dec 05, 2020 at 06:37:33 PM EST
    has really been hit hard. No masks and social distancing and they are going to be taking that back to other S GA towns. Trump is probably going to kill off some Perdue and Loeffler voters. Doesn't need to kill a whole lot a this point to make the insider trading twins lose.

    Ted Cruz is the biggest suck up I have ever seen in politics and that is saying something.


    Cruz is a bigger suck-up (5.00 / 1) (#73)
    by leap on Sat Dec 05, 2020 at 07:06:28 PM EST
    than Miz Lindsey?? She's the worst. Well, maybe it's a tie. Al Franken ought to know, since he "worked with" both those creatures. He said, "I like Ted Cruz more than most of my other colleagues like Ted Cruz. And I hate Ted Cruz."

    Maybe not a breaking point (none / 0) (#74)
    by KeysDan on Sat Dec 05, 2020 at 08:29:34 PM EST
    for the MAGAs in Valdosta, GA, but he was back at it and coo coo bananas.  Trump went on, according to  reporting, about rigged election and that he will still win.  All to chants of four more years  and stop the steal.

    Trump put pressure on Kemp to act so as to overturn the election.  The rubes still haven't got it that this is all a grift-- keep that money coming in and at least 4 percent will go to the legal fight, the rest to Trump's discretionary fund.


    Has anyone else noticed (5.00 / 2) (#80)
    by MO Blue on Sun Dec 06, 2020 at 01:48:19 PM EST
    that Trump was not speaking clearly in his GA rally? Sounded a lot like someone whose false teeth did not fit properly or a slight slurring.

    Drugs now at the end. (none / 0) (#81)
    by fishcamp on Sun Dec 06, 2020 at 01:58:37 PM EST
    It's just too overwhelming for his mind.  Sad to see.

    A sober and sobering (none / 0) (#75)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Dec 05, 2020 at 09:10:55 PM EST
    exploration of just how deeply down the rabbit hole we have gone

    Why Do So Many Americans Think the Election Was Stolen?
    Looking for the reasons behind a seemingly unreasonable belief.

    But I am certain that these issues are connected to a larger and more important question for the future of the right. At the moment, the voter-fraud narrative is being deployed, often by people more cynical than the groups I've just described, to help an outgoing president -- one who twice lost the popular vote and displayed gross incompetence in the face of his administration's greatest challenge -- stake a permanent claim to the leadership of his party and establish himself as the presumptive Republican nominee in 2024. And it's being used to push aside the more compelling narrative that the Republican Party could take away from 2020, which is that Trump's presidency demonstrated that populism can provide a foundation for conservatism, but to build on it the right needs a very different leader than the man Joe Biden just defeated.

    That's the most important argument for the next four years -- and one I'll be making firmly, passionately, right up until the Republican Party nominates Trump again in 2024.

    This guy is a conservative.  And he is making the case for a less clumsy and incompetent racist authoritarian.   Like Tom Cotton or Josh Hawley.  

    The last sentence is my favorite part.  Trump has f'cked them and he will likely go on f'cking them.  We should all hope he fowls up the serious republicans for `24 or better yet gets nominated again.  


    Ross Douthat is (none / 0) (#77)
    by KeysDan on Sun Dec 06, 2020 at 10:50:13 AM EST
    missing one other reason, I think, for Republicans slavishly following Trump's stolen election swindle.  They treasure his entertainment value.  All the more so during the pandemic restrictions on sporting events, bar hopping and  other opportunities to vent their grievances for a changing world.

    Not only, Trump himself, but also his crowd--- Rudy is a compatriot wrapped in comedy gold.  The great spectacle of the press conference at the Ritz Carlton Total Landscaping seemed hard to top, but it was by the.performance of that tipsy woman  with the unstable upsweep hairdo as Giuliani's star witness before a hearing of Michigan Republicans.  

    If Trump does not run again in 2024 or does not successfully block other contenders, I doubt the beneficiaries would be candidates such as Cotton or Hawley.  Republicans will look for a fascist, but one who entertains.  Perhaps,a professional wrestler.  


    It (5.00 / 1) (#78)
    by FlJoe on Sun Dec 06, 2020 at 12:18:50 PM EST
    is my firm belief that for many Americans would rather be entertained than (competently) governed.

    Let's face it, other than us political junkies, the government is a rather boring abstraction.

    That's why Tucker Carson's name shows up as a potential nominee.


    Republicans tend (none / 0) (#79)
    by KeysDan on Sun Dec 06, 2020 at 01:47:29 PM EST
    to fixate on celebrities and crime.  Arnold was chosen by Californians because he showed.leadership and fortitude-- in movies. Reagan, the B movie star and GE shill, was just what they were looking for.  Trump was just taking it up several fascist notches.  

    Don't watch Tucker, but what I do know of him he meets the basic criteria and is a strong contender, especially since he lost the bow ties.  However, he may not have that necessary spark to ignite the poorly educated, Trump's favorites and loyalists. Although they may identify through mutual familiarity with Swanson's TV dinners.

    A much stronger contender, in my view, is Jerry Falwell, Jr.  Celebrity scion, alleged grifter, intriguing scandal, Evangelical scold.  Suitable, like Trump, to live lives through vicariously.


    Remember when it was considered a scandal (none / 0) (#76)
    by Peter G on Sat Dec 05, 2020 at 10:57:32 PM EST
    that only something over half the money raised by the American Red Cross for 2010 earthquake disaster relief in Haiti was actually used for that purpose? And then again with funds raised in 2014 for relief from Hurricane Sandy?

    Former Maryland Representative, (5.00 / 2) (#69)
    by KeysDan on Sat Dec 05, 2020 at 03:45:48 PM EST
    and former Democratic presidential primary candidate, John Delaney, has proposed a stimulus check of $1,500 to Americans who get the Covid-19 vaccine.  His idea is to incentivize vaccination so as to return to "normal".  

    The cost is estimated to be about $380 billion; the stimulus check  provided earlier this year to some Americans (based on income limitations) was $270 billion.  It may be assumed that "vaccination" means the two dose administration.

    I heard of this (none / 0) (#72)
    by Ga6thDem on Sat Dec 05, 2020 at 06:38:38 PM EST
    and actually thought it was a good idea. There's no amount of money that will get the anti-vaxxers on board but that amounts should at least encourage any fence sitters.

    Hottest November evah... (5.00 / 1) (#91)
    by desertswine on Mon Dec 07, 2020 at 11:50:51 AM EST
    Last month was the hottest November on record as Europe basked in its highest Autumn temperatures in history, the European Union's satellite monitoring service said Monday.

    Last week the World Meteorological Organization said 2020 was on course to be among the three hottest years ever recorded.
        Raw Story

    Watch Louie Gomerts (5.00 / 2) (#103)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Dec 08, 2020 at 05:24:33 PM EST
    I can't help it, (none / 0) (#106)
    by Zorba on Thu Dec 10, 2020 at 05:49:30 PM EST
    But I'm laughing.  A lot.

    Otherwise..... (5.00 / 1) (#111)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Dec 14, 2020 at 11:22:05 AM EST

    Donald J. Trump
    What a fool Governor
     of Georgia is. Could have been so easy, but now we have to do it the hard way. Demand this clown call a Special Session and open up signature verification, NOW. Otherwise, could be a bad day for two GREAT Senators on January 5th.

    Dear Republicans:

    There was a young lady of Niger
    Who smiled as she rode on a tiger;
    They returned from the ride
    With the lady inside,
    And the smile on the face of the tiger.

    you knew he was a snake.

    You buttered your bread.  Now sleep in it.

    Exactly (none / 0) (#113)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Dec 14, 2020 at 12:40:21 PM EST
    "State law is clear: the legislature could only direct an alternative method for choosing presidential electors if the election was not able to be held on the date set by federal law. In the 1960s, the General Assembly decided that Georgia's presidential electors will be determined by the winner of the state's popular vote. Any attempt by the legislature to retroactively change that process for the November 3rd election would be unconstitutional and immediately enjoined by the courts, resulting in a long legal dispute and no short-term resolution.

    So Kemp could call a special session but if he did he would have to get the legislature on board with changing how the presidential electors are chosen and then since it would be after the election it would have to go through the courts and likely wouldn't be resolved before Jan 20.

    I hope there are a lot of Trumpers here that hang on his every word and don't show up to vote.

    Kemp lied down with dogs and got up with fleas. I think he thinks this will be forgotten by 2022.


    What if Johnathan did it? (none / 0) (#1)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Nov 29, 2020 at 06:27:18 PM EST
    I've been wondering if it was him.  He seems guilty to me.  But maybe just of something else.   The "undoing" of his perfect life?  And hers?  

    I have sort of liked it too but I did not like last weeks "cliffhanger".   I can't believe it's the kid.  If it is I will be pi$$ed.
    And if it's not it was a dumb cliffhanger except to make you think he is protecting his father.   And it's her.  As you say.

    Another justification for your theory is Lily Rabe is the best actor in the cast. IMO.  And you're right, she has had nothing to do.  But maybe be a red herring?

    The other finale tonight is Fargo.  I think this might be the best season yet.   And they are calling tonight "the final episode of Fargo" so I guess it might be the last.

    Chris Rock has been good enough but he is not even the tenth most interesting character.  What a great group of oddballs and great actors.

    Your Honor starts next Sunday SHOWTIME (none / 0) (#4)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Nov 29, 2020 at 07:23:20 PM EST
    Brian Cranston's first tv since Breaking Bad

    BAFTA winner Peter Moffat, whose British crime series "Criminal Justice" served as the inspiration for HBO's Emmy-winning "The Night Of," serves as the showrunner of "Your Honor" and also wrote several of the 10 episodes. Joining Moffat as executive producers on the project are "The Good Wife" and "The Good Fight" duo Robert and Michelle King, Liz Glotzer, and BAFTA-winning director Edward Berger, who also helmed the first three episodes of the series.

    Watching last weeks episode (none / 0) (#5)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Nov 29, 2020 at 07:32:23 PM EST
    Donald Sutherland?  The father in law?

    Not (none / 0) (#8)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Nov 29, 2020 at 08:52:19 PM EST

    Best season ever (none / 0) (#9)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Nov 30, 2020 at 07:34:42 AM EST
    Midway through the Fargo season 4 finale credits, the black screen slowly gives way to a cracked asphalt road somewhere out in the American Midwest. Then the camera pans up to find a car driving down that lonely highway. Sitting in the backseat of that car is none other than Mike Milligan (Bokeem Woodbine). Mike was one of the central antagonists from Fargo season 2 - a charismatic and talkative enforcer sent by the Kansas City mob to deal with the Gerhardt family, Fargo's most notable crime syndicate in the `70s. Driving the car is one of the two Kitchen brothers (Wayne and Gale, played by Brad and Tood Mann), who served as Mike's bodymen.

    As Mike looks out the window, a scene of Loy Cannon's son Michael a.k.a. "Satchel" walking down the road after escaping the Faddas fades in and is displayed beside Mike's face. The implication here is clear. As many viewers have long-suspected, Michael "Satchel" Cannon grows up to be Mike Milligan. It turns out that being traded from one crime family to another, experiencing that new family trying to murder you, only to return home to one's birth father just in time to watch him die is a compelling formula for how to create a murderer.

    That was a total guess about The Unfoing.


    Undoing season 2? (none / 0) (#10)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Nov 30, 2020 at 07:38:33 AM EST
    I enjoyed this show despite the weak ending (none / 0) (#115)
    by McBain on Mon Dec 14, 2020 at 01:56:36 PM EST
    The courtroom scenes should have been better but I liked the cast.  The kids did a good job. Can't imagine a second season but they forced a second season of Big Little Lies, so who knows?

    I also had thanksgiving (none / 0) (#2)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Nov 29, 2020 at 06:47:32 PM EST
    With one socially distanced friend.  We both cooked.  Everything.  We had turkey with eeeeeverything.  Enough food for a very large family.

    I still have leftovers.  Ate way too much.  Very much like thanksgiving with not a single awkward political conversation.  Which I guarantee I would have had if I had seen family.

    That's enough to be thankful for.

    We provided two complete Thanksgiving dinners, (5.00 / 1) (#6)
    by Peter G on Sun Nov 29, 2020 at 07:58:56 PM EST
    including turkeys and all that, to our local food bank. At home, it was just the two of us, for the first time in forever. But we were on and off Facetime with our three grown daughters all day, monitoring each others' kitchen activities, since the greatest joy of traditional family Thanksgiving is all being in a kitchen together cooking a feast cooperatively. For ourselves, we made a roast leg of lamb, with sweet potatoes and green beans. Cut up our Halloween pumpkin, baked it, scraped out and pureed the pulp, and baked pumpkin bread with some of it. Saved the rest in the freezer to make pumpkin pies when the girls can visit, after we all do some quarantining and testing. The lamb-bone became the base for scotch broth, while the leftover lamb became a biryani on Friday. On Wednesday, we made the traditional (according to Calvin Trillin) eve-of-Thanksgiving spaghetti carbonara:
    In England, along time ago, there were people called Pilgrims who were very strict about making everyone observe the Sabbath and cooked food without any flavor and that sort of thing, and they decided to go to America, where they could enjoy Freedom to Nag.  The other people in England said, "Glad to see the back of them."  In America, the Pilgrims tried farming, but they couldn't get much done because they were always putting their best farmers in the stocks for crimes like Suspicion of Cheerfulness.  The Indians took pity on the Pilgrims and helped them with their farming, even though the Indians thought that the Pilgrims were about as much fun as teenage circumcision.  The Pilgrims were so grateful that at the end of their first year in America they invited the Indians over for a Thanksgiving meal.  The Indians, having had some experience with Pilgrim cuisine during the year, took the precaution of taking along one dish of their own.  They brought a dish that their ancestors had learned from none other than Christopher Columbus, who was known to the Indians as "the big Italian fellow."  The dish was spaghetti carbonara--made with pancetta bacon and fontina and the best imported prosciutto.  The Pilgrims hated it.  They said it was "heretically tasty" and "the work of the devil" and "the sort of thing foreigners eat."  The Indians were so disgusted that on the way back to their village after dinner one of them made a remark about the Pilgrims that was repeated down through the years and unfortunately caused confusion among historians about the first Thanksgiving meal.  He said,
       "What a bunch of turkeys!".

    carbonara (none / 0) (#7)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Nov 29, 2020 at 08:47:14 PM EST
    is one of my 2 or 3 favorite foods.   And a speciality.  Never heard that.  Another reason to have carbonara.

    Love Trillin, who appeared at Theatre (none / 0) (#20)
    by oculus on Tue Dec 01, 2020 at 03:00:51 PM EST
    for a New Audience for an interview following a new play About Alice.  Which lead me to his first books about college integration in Georgia. My fave, though is Tepper Isn't Going Out.  

    I have noticed (none / 0) (#3)
    by Ga6thDem on Sun Nov 29, 2020 at 07:04:19 PM EST
    a lot of friends not doing turkey this year. One did steaks. Another did lasagna like you. I guess it is just one of those years. We had T-day the Saturday before Thanksgiving and had the traditional meal. I gave all my leftovers to my daughter in law to take for them to have when they did their Thanksgiving on Thursday and she had to work.

    From Firstread (none / 0) (#11)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Nov 30, 2020 at 08:44:19 AM EST
    "Over the Thanksgiving holiday alone (Thursday through Sunday), the United States saw more than 600,000 new coronavirus cases and nearly 5,000 deaths. And health experts say it's about to get worse -- even with distribution of vaccines now in sight."


    First vaccine arrived in Chicago today (none / 0) (#13)
    by Towanda on Mon Nov 30, 2020 at 02:07:06 PM EST
    and is headed for a distribution center halfway between us and Chicago, home of my youngest grandchild, now nearing a year old. I held her once and have not seen her for so long. But I get to see her on Facetime and Portal, where we watched her start to crawl last week.

    We did not even do Thanksgiving with our grandchildren near us, as my daughter is a teacher and decided it's too dangerous for us. And on Zoom with my clan, we found out that a niece, also a teacher, tested positive last week,

    And one of my aunts out west is hospitalized with it now.

    Yet we also found out that some in my family are traveling, are out and about even when exposed, and I am furious with them. They are the reason that we are in isolation.


    I guess zoom is a blessing (none / 0) (#14)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Nov 30, 2020 at 04:02:33 PM EST
    Fortunately for me the only family members who zoom are the ones I actually want to see.  

    Did one Friday with a bunch of old work friends from CA.  The work I did has almost entirely moved to work from home.  It was already going that way before I left.  It's not hard or even that expensive to have the kind of desktop equipment to do major movie work from home.

    So effects work is happening.  It's the live action that's going slowly.


    Yes, but Captain, but you had (none / 0) (#16)
    by fishcamp on Mon Nov 30, 2020 at 09:40:28 PM EST
    your knowledge, skill, and ability to create   It must be difficult to co-ordinate all of it now that the medium and machinery have changed.  EFX rock.

    Hasn't changed that much (none / 0) (#18)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Dec 01, 2020 at 08:36:09 AM EST
    From my day really.

    I worked on projects that happened in a guys house who had two workstations.  The work is really perfect for remote feedback.  You send it in they send back comments.


    A metaphor (none / 0) (#12)
    by Repack Rider on Mon Nov 30, 2020 at 01:58:08 PM EST
    Somewhere in the United States the last person who will send money to Donald Trump is eating leftovers from a turkey they bought with food stamps.

    Thanksgiving with Lauren (none / 0) (#15)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Nov 30, 2020 at 07:25:17 PM EST
    who was raised by wolves.

    Lauren was considering whether or not to take a Klonopin when her husband shuffled in, straining under the weight of a dead elk. "You didn't have to get that," she said.

    "It's the least I can do," Gabe said, in a chipper Boy Scout voice. "It's so cool of them to come all the way out here!"

    He dumped the carcass on the coffee table, shattering several bowls of nuts and olives. Lauren sighed.

    "What's wrong?" Gabe asked.

    "I just don't understand why we always have to accommodate their needs."

    Gabe shot her a look. "Because they're your parents. And our guests."

    Lauren popped the Klonopin and washed it down with Pinot Grigio.

    In a typically stupid move (none / 0) (#17)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Dec 01, 2020 at 08:32:40 AM EST
    PS (none / 0) (#19)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Dec 01, 2020 at 10:04:49 AM EST
    Personally what I know about her I like.   Which is mostly as a very progressive, and loud and aggressive progressive, voice on cable news.  And that she is president of the Center for American Progress.

    If John Cornyn and Lindsey Graham are wetting their pants about her that's good enough for me.


    It was just pointedly out (none / 0) (#21)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Dec 01, 2020 at 06:57:45 PM EST
    That the person named in that just released court document about the bribery scheme has a name of 5 letters.  I guess he they can tel this from the blocks of black.

    There are some interesting names with 5 letters

    Trump.  Flynn.

    It's also notable, they say, that the judge thoughtvthis should be made public just now.

    Curious the lawyers think any of this sounds wrong.

    Flynn (none / 0) (#26)
    by KeysDan on Tue Dec 01, 2020 at 10:18:04 PM EST
    was so unfairly treated, claimed Trump.   And, a big contribution would be a nice token of appreciation for that unfairness being recognized.  ( I don't think it was Flynn, however.   Flynn does have all that Turkish money, but still).

    Who knows if its Flynn (none / 0) (#28)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Dec 02, 2020 at 06:51:53 AM EST
    But whoever it is there's apparently several people involved.  Judging by the number of devices involved.  

    Which sounds like a group of rich diners trying to put together a bribe for whoever it was.

    And that person was in jail.

    Manafort?  Seriously.  Who knows.  The Flynn pardon is interestingly timed tho.


    Donors (none / 0) (#29)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Dec 02, 2020 at 06:52:52 AM EST
    who were probably also rich diners

    In the anals of you (none / 0) (#33)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Dec 02, 2020 at 03:53:59 PM EST
    can't make this up today Sidney Powell and Lin Wood are having a rally here in which they both are advocating for people to not vote for Loeffler or Perdue and screaming that the voting machines are controlled by China. I think who controls the voting machines here in GA much change everyday. I think last week it was Hugo Chavez or maybe just Venezuela. They also are screaming "lock him up" with regards to Brian Kemp.

    Here is a twitter thread on the rally

    The only thing that puzzles me are Powell and Wood grifting or do they actually believe this stuff. Vernon Jones was there and with him I know he's just looking to grift some moolah from these stupid magats.

    It really is puzzling (none / 0) (#35)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Dec 02, 2020 at 04:25:22 PM EST
    I sort of think Donald has decided that republicans, in spite of never uttering the dreaded words "president elect", have failed him.

    They have not rallied behind his crazy clown coup to protect him from imminent indictment and disgrace and they should be punished.  

    As far as Rudy and the other one, the are minions.  They do what they are told.


    I won't link to it (none / 0) (#36)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Dec 02, 2020 at 04:28:16 PM EST
    but this afternoon Trump has released a 45 minute screed on FB.  It's a greatest hits of cray cray.  

    I can't stand listening to him but I watched the whole crazy thing.

    Among other things he warns the cult members that NY is coming after him.  


    I watched about (none / 0) (#38)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Dec 02, 2020 at 05:10:27 PM EST
    2 minutes of it. The 2 minutes were nothing but a rehash of the same thing he has been saying for quite a while.

    I kid you not (none / 0) (#37)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Dec 02, 2020 at 05:09:31 PM EST
    these two lawyers are now calling themselves Kraken-Wood.

    The whole they have not rallied behind Trump was one of the criticisms against Loeffler and Perdue. If they really cared they would start demanding Brian Kemp call a special session of the legislature to make the electors vote for Trump based on "fraud". I also understand WI tore apart Kraken-Wood's legal claims.


    More like (5.00 / 4) (#41)
    by Peter G on Wed Dec 02, 2020 at 07:03:38 PM EST

    ROTFLMAO (none / 0) (#42)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Dec 02, 2020 at 07:18:37 PM EST
    yeah. Is anybody going to ever look at Powell again without thinking something like Kraken Head?

    Sydney says... (5.00 / 1) (#45)
    by Repack Rider on Wed Dec 02, 2020 at 10:38:49 PM EST
    Once you go Kraken, you never go baken.

    Testing (none / 0) (#44)
    by Repack Rider on Wed Dec 02, 2020 at 10:37:38 PM EST
    If too much schadenfreude is fatal, these are my last words.
    Okay, it isn't.

    Polls (none / 0) (#51)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Dec 03, 2020 at 11:53:40 AM EST
    For what they are worth

    A new SurveyUSA poll in Georgia finds Jon Ossoff (D) leading Sen. David Perdue (R) in their U.S. Senate runoff, 50% to 48%.

    In the other U.S. Senate runoff, Raphael Warnock (D) leads Sen. Kelly Loeffler (R), 52% to 45%.

    Has Anybody Seen a Convincing Explanation (none / 0) (#53)
    by RickyJim on Thu Dec 03, 2020 at 12:05:56 PM EST
    of why the Senate polls this year in Maine, South Carolina, North Carolina and Iowa were so inaccurate and overstated the strength of the Democrat candidate?  The only thing I remember reading is that 95% of people contacted by phone refuse to talk to the poll taker.  I admit it isn't a very clear explanation.  I also remember reading that in the future some poll organizations say they will resort to text messaging instead of phone calls in order to get greater participation.

    Hmm (none / 0) (#58)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Dec 03, 2020 at 03:49:10 PM EST
    Read Nate Silver at 538.  He has been spinning excuses since Nov 4th

    Trump is going to GA Sat.  To "help"

    Love to know what the two republicans really think about this.


    My opinion (none / 0) (#61)
    by MO Blue on Thu Dec 03, 2020 at 04:24:15 PM EST
    Warnock has a better chance of winning than Ossoff. Hopefully the GOTV People sell it as a twofer.

    Yes (none / 0) (#63)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Dec 03, 2020 at 04:42:39 PM EST
    I think so too.  But the insider trading thing is not helping Perdue.

    Also it's probably about turnout.  So I kind of expect to win or lose both.


    Beautiful view, Jeralyn. (none / 0) (#40)
    by oculus on Wed Dec 02, 2020 at 06:25:46 PM EST

    Rafer Johnson. legendary Olympic athlete... (none / 0) (#46)
    by desertswine on Wed Dec 02, 2020 at 10:44:11 PM EST
    Rafer Johnson, who carried the American flag into Rome's Olympic Stadium in August 1960 as the first Black captain of a United States Olympic team and went on to win gold in a memorable decathlon duel, bringing him acclaim as the world's greatest all-around athlete, died on Wednesday at his home in the Sherman Oaks section of Los Angeles. He was 86.


    Okay, once again it's that time of year. (none / 0) (#47)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Thu Dec 03, 2020 at 01:12:05 AM EST
    I'm soliciting nominations for Christmas / holiday songs from the bowels of Hell. There's no criteria for your nominee other than you can't stand it.

    It could be a merely cringeworthy effort by an otherwise reputable musical artist who simply sought to cash in on the season but probably should've known better, or something so truly horrible that afterward, you'll want to cleanse your soul with Cozy Powell's "Dance With the Devil" or perhaps Mike Oldfield's haunting love theme from "The Exorcist," "Tubular Bells."

    I'll get the party started with a song that sadly plays to a rather vicious country-western stereotype:

    "Well, it's Christmas Eve and I'm all alone,
    Workin' on this bottle of gin.
    I'm just sittin' here, atoning for my sins.
    I'll be face down at Christmas again."
    - The Electroliners, "Face Down at Christmas (Again)"

    Next up is a can of musical Cheez Whiz for our host Jeralyn, and if "Backdoor Santa" -- which just screams, "Help! I'm trapped in the '80s and can't get out!" -- doesn't cause her to reconsider her almost slavish devotion to Jon Bon Jovi then surely, nothing will.

    Finally, I'll close with my actual nominee by an artist I really and truly like, Beck and his "The Little Drum Machine Boy," a Yuletide effort which makes me wonder if he actually shot up heroin before entering the studio to record seven minutes of my life that I'll never get back.

    The floor is now open. ;-D

    Not exactly a Christmas song (none / 0) (#48)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Dec 03, 2020 at 09:26:20 AM EST
    But a spiritual ballad suitable for a season of introspection.

    especially for the so called "Christian" right

    Also I love it.  I don't hate it.  

    So I'm kind of ignoring your rules D.  Sorry.


    There's no accounting for personal taste. (none / 0) (#84)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sun Dec 06, 2020 at 08:59:14 PM EST
    To each, his own.

    How about Bob Dylan's "version" of (none / 0) (#50)
    by Peter G on Thu Dec 03, 2020 at 10:40:02 AM EST
    "Santa Claus Comes Tonight"? Or pretty much anything from that album.

    The really bad stuff (none / 0) (#55)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Dec 03, 2020 at 03:45:16 PM EST
    Now I am re-assured. (none / 0) (#56)
    by KeysDan on Thu Dec 03, 2020 at 03:46:26 PM EST
    Former Presidents Clinton, Bush and Obama have indicated that they will be publicly vaccinated to inculcate confidence. And, Ivanka says she is willing to join them.

    Which does not belong in this line? Bill, George, Obama, Ivanka.

    Which does not belong in this line? (none / 0) (#57)
    by KeysDan on Thu Dec 03, 2020 at 03:47:53 PM EST
    Bill, George, Barrack, Ivanka.

    Bill, George, Barack, Ivanka. (5.00 / 2) (#62)
    by desertswine on Thu Dec 03, 2020 at 04:31:40 PM EST
    Is it Barack?  It was the only one mis-spelled.

    I wish they would say (none / 0) (#59)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Dec 03, 2020 at 03:51:44 PM EST
    thanks, we're good.  Ex POTUS only.  Even tho we know you were running things it's just not official.  Sorry.

    POSSESSOR (none / 0) (#60)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Dec 03, 2020 at 04:10:26 PM EST
    on demand fun

    Written directed by Brandon Cronenberg. That Cronenberg.

    If you like Cronenberg movies you will like it.

    New South and old South (none / 0) (#64)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Dec 05, 2020 at 10:15:32 AM EST
    All the talk about changing demographics in GA are mostly about race and newly energized voters of color

    Georgia's Senate race pits the Old South against the New South
    "There's a third rail of politics in the South. And it's race."

    and that is a huge part.  No doubt.  But there is another demographic shift happening in GA.  GA has become a major center for movies, tv and even games and other tech heavy media.  I spent 2004 - 2007 in Atlanta working on a movie.  The first independently financed animated feature in the US.

     here is a list of other productions in the state

    The point is very few of these people are Trump voters.  And while much of the work in this industry is contract there is more that is not.  I think it's one of the reasons GA was a surprise.

    On another subject,

    Where the hell is everybody?  It's a little to quiet here.  Plus it's a bad time to drop out of touch.  If you know what I mean

    All of that is true. (none / 0) (#65)
    by Ga6thDem on Sat Dec 05, 2020 at 10:52:39 AM EST
    Ironically the GOP is stuck in a corner with the movie industry. They want the jobs and the business but don't want movie employees to vote or be politically active. Nathan Deal was able to veto the crazy legislation from the evangelicals but Brian Kemp is signing onto all of it. He has allowed himself to be terrorized by them.

    I also wondered why everybody is so silent. Maybe holiday shopping?


    The Genie is out of the bottle (none / 0) (#66)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Dec 05, 2020 at 11:00:23 AM EST
    The toothpaste is out of the tube.  There is more stuff going there every day.  Other places too.  Because almost anywhere is cheaper than LA.  But GA has done everything right.

    It's very smart.  Except for the progressive voters part from a Republican point of view.  I bet a lot of people are just realizing that.

    But it's like legalizing pot.  They hate the idea but love the tax revenue.


    THE STAND (none / 0) (#67)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Dec 05, 2020 at 11:09:12 AM EST
    is finally coming.  Dec 17.  Get your CBS all access paid up.  (It's a pretty good deal)


    Alexander Skarsgård is quite the acting package.  I am binging Big Little Lies.   I never thought it was my thing until The Undoing made me interested.  Its not really my thing but it's good,  especially season 2 when Meryl shows up.

    Anyway Alexander is the square awed anti hero in Lies.  He's also Randal Flagg in The Stand.

    And IT.

    that's a range.

    So, (none / 0) (#82)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Dec 06, 2020 at 04:27:52 PM EST
    Rudy has The Covid.

    Thoughts and prayers

    And, (none / 0) (#83)
    by KeysDan on Sun Dec 06, 2020 at 06:49:21 PM EST
    is hospitalized.

    While I offer crazy Uncle Rudy ... (none / 0) (#85)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sun Dec 06, 2020 at 09:13:06 PM EST
    ... my sincere best wishes for a speedy recovery to good health, nevertheless it must be said that he and other like-minded Republicans have long been courting their own fates by repeatedly flouting public health measures and advisories. He took an uncalculated risk with a potentially deadly virus and it was pure chance that he somehow avoided infection until now. His luck just ran out.

    Spreading more than lies (none / 0) (#86)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Dec 06, 2020 at 09:56:12 PM EST
    The Arizona Legislature will be closed all next week after at least 15 current or future Republican legislators may have been directly exposed to COVID-19 by meeting with Rudy Giuliani, the Arizona Capitol Times reports.

    He superspread (none / 0) (#92)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Dec 07, 2020 at 12:51:31 PM EST
    here in GA too as he was here on Thursday. The GA legislature as far as I know is not going to quarantine or actually do anything it appears other than spread COVID to more people.

    Ridiculous... (none / 0) (#87)
    by desertswine on Sun Dec 06, 2020 at 11:36:44 PM EST
    How could he be sick from something that doesn't exist.  He must've been poisoned by George Soros.

    Kill your darlings (none / 0) (#88)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Dec 07, 2020 at 09:41:11 AM EST
    This is a very good bit from A. B. Stoddard.

    Trump Is Trying To Break the GOP?
    The future of the Republican party is an endless series of loyalty tests and Trump family vendettas. Good luck.

    Donald Trump is going to destroy their party.

    Not because he wants to or even because he's trying to. But because the destruction of the GOP will be required in order to fill his psychological needs.


    You can't vote out Dominion. But you can go after Brian Kemp and Brad Raffensberger and Doug Ducey and any (and every) other Republican who refused to steal the election on Trump's behalf.

    And that's where the anger that Trump is stoking in Republican voters is going to be channeled in the coming months. Because it's literally the only place it can flow.


    As Jonathan V. Last wrote on October 8: "Go write this down: After November 3, the price of admission to GOP politics is going to be an insistence that, actually, Donald Trump did win the election and/or would have won if it hadn't been stolen/rigged."


    He will imply a right to revolution.

    Republicans will have to soon accept Trump isn't actually trying to be president again, or lead or unite a party. He simply intends to dominate and there is never enough submission. The next few years for Trump will be all about scalps.

    Republican scalps.

    The battle has already started

    Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan (R) released a video on Monday calling for the Republican Party to chart a new path forward in the years ahead.



    We can make popcorn and enjoy this but my fear is the sane will not win.  That the republicans who, in the election, literally saved the republic will be primaries out, Trump pushed a primary challenge to Kemp in Valdosta, and the crazies will take over.

    The ones who would be happy to help steal future elections.

    The goal, I think, is to turn the (none / 0) (#90)
    by desertswine on Mon Dec 07, 2020 at 11:45:02 AM EST
    Republican Party into the Trump Criminal Organization, not that it isn't already a criminal organization.

    If Kemp (none / 0) (#93)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Dec 07, 2020 at 12:54:17 PM EST
    has a primary opponent the GOP will lose the governorship. The crazies already pretty much have had control of the GOP here in GA. You have to remember until it came to actually breaking the law for Trump, Kemp did everything Trump and the crazies wanted.

    It is ironic or something like it (5.00 / 1) (#95)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Dec 07, 2020 at 01:33:57 PM EST
    that Kemp who was previously best known for stealing his last election would be the guy who stands up for free and fair elections and saves the day.

    Yes probably (none / 0) (#94)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Dec 07, 2020 at 01:32:02 PM EST
    Stacy Abrams has said she will run again.  

    But there are plenty of others like the ones in PA and others who can be, and probably will be, primaried by loonies who won't lose their general elections.


    They fear Stacy (none / 0) (#96)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Dec 07, 2020 at 02:48:04 PM EST
    in ways she must find very gratifying

    "The objective fact is I believe Trump probably did actually carry Georgia... Republicans simply have to turn out more votes than Stacey Abrams can steal."

    -- Newt Gingrich, while offering no evidence of his "objective fact" in a Fox News interview.

    I really don't have the impression that (none / 0) (#99)
    by Peter G on Mon Dec 07, 2020 at 08:55:04 PM EST
    there are as many (or at least not as high a percentage) of super-crazies in the PA GOP as is apparently the case elsewhere.

    C'mon Peter. We do have a few. (5.00 / 1) (#101)
    by Chuck0 on Tue Dec 08, 2020 at 08:58:38 AM EST
    See Wagner, Scott. See Kelly, Mike. See Metcalfe, Daryl.

    I am curious to see who the GOP put up for Guv in 2022. Do you think perhaps Toomey?

    I am all in for Fetterman. Good article at The Appeal on his criminal justice reform work.


    Yes, absolutely (none / 0) (#104)
    by Peter G on Tue Dec 08, 2020 at 05:58:39 PM EST
    I did not say none. Agreed on the ones you named. And several more. I also agree about Fettrrman.

    WOW (none / 0) (#100)
    by jmacWA on Tue Dec 08, 2020 at 05:07:20 AM EST
    If that's the case I feel sorry for the other states.  PA has some real doozies when it comes to state legislators.

    Scary numbers (none / 0) (#89)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Dec 07, 2020 at 11:14:39 AM EST
    "Nearly 12 million renters will owe an average of $5,850 in back rent and utilities by January, Moody's Analytics warns."

    Literal fumigation (none / 0) (#97)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Dec 07, 2020 at 03:59:39 PM EST
    Hundreds of people are expected at the White House for a series of holiday parties and receptions this month, despite an alarming spike in COVID-19 cases across the country," reports USA Today. "No mention was made of whether the White House will undergo a deep cleaning when those events are over, roughly a month before Inauguration Day.

    Biden really (5.00 / 1) (#98)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Dec 07, 2020 at 04:27:55 PM EST
    should not move in there until at least 2 weeks after all the Trumpers are out and the WH has been thoroughly fumigated.

    Watch out for this guy (none / 0) (#102)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Dec 08, 2020 at 12:49:48 PM EST
    Sen. Tom Cotton (R-AR) was asked twice if he supports Donald Trump running for president again in 2024 but he declined to answer, the Wall Street Journal reports.

    Said Cotton: "Let's put one election on the books before we start worrying about two elections out."

    Cotton, who aspires to be president, also said he didn't think Trump would freeze the 2024 field.

    Marco want to make sure he has a job

    Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) told Florida Politics he will run for reelection in 2022 and that he thinks Donald Trump will clear the field if he runs for president in 2024.

    Said Rubio: "If he decides to run, I think what it means is that Donald Trump will be the next Republican nominee... I still have work to do in the U.S. Senate... I have every intention of being on that ballot in November of 2022."

    WOO HOO!! (none / 0) (#105)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Dec 09, 2020 at 06:30:51 PM EST
    This is about 4 miles from my house

    $1.5 million dispensary to open just outside of Hardy

    FULTON COUNTY, Ark. (KAIT) - A state-of-the-art dispensary for medical marijuana is close to being finished in Fulton County. When it's done, it will be one of the few dispensaries in northeast Arkansas.
    The $1.5 million project, named the Spring River Dispensary, has been under construction since mid-September and should be open by mid-December.

    Rest in peace, John le Carré (1931-2020). (none / 0) (#107)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sun Dec 13, 2020 at 05:46:22 PM EST
    The prolific author, whose actual name is David Cornwall, served as an intelligence officer for the British Foreign Service in the early years of the Cold War.

    Over the decades, his eloquent mastery of the espionage genre, in which he explored the vast gray area between the West's high-minded rhetoric about freedom and the rougher, earthier realities often faced by those who were charged with defending it, garnered him millions of fans worldwide, yours truly included.

    Personally, I think le Carré's intricate novel of Cold War intrigue and betrayal at the highest echelons of government in London, "Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy", is arguably the best of its kind. Others, of course, may have their own personal favorites.

    I also found that dramatic adaptations of le Carré's best work were sometimes better suited for television, rather than the movie theatre. Sir Alec Guinness's understated portrait of the rumpled, nondescript British intelligence operative George Smiley in the 1979 BBC limited series "Tinker Tailor" probably best captured the generally tedious and unglamorous nature of counter-espionage work, which belied the high stakes involved and were punctuated occasionally by raw moments of serious fear.

    John le Carré will be dearly missed.

    He (none / 0) (#108)
    by FlJoe on Sun Dec 13, 2020 at 07:25:11 PM EST
    humanized the spy like no other.

    His characters for the most part were basically hum-drum bureaucrats or other ordinary people who jumped or were pushed into a world where deceit and lies are the stock and trade. A world where trust is fleeting and the second guessing is constant. A world  where paranoia is a likely occupational hazard.

    IMO it was more the grey area between the ordinary and the shadow world that his stories explored was his true strength.


    The Spy Who Came In From the Cold... (none / 0) (#109)
    by desertswine on Mon Dec 14, 2020 at 01:16:25 AM EST
    was my favorite.  Also enjoyed the old movie with Richard Burton.

    STOP THE COUNT (none / 0) (#110)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Dec 14, 2020 at 10:50:15 AM EST
    Trump is ahead.  Stop the count.

    I love that Stacy (none / 0) (#112)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Dec 14, 2020 at 11:24:27 AM EST
    is speaking for GA.

    Stacey (none / 0) (#114)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Dec 14, 2020 at 12:41:05 PM EST
    says there are 86K voters voting in the senate election that did not vote in the presidential election.

    I so hope (none / 0) (#116)
    by Peter G on Mon Dec 14, 2020 at 03:08:25 PM EST
    that is true.

    I also saw the bit about the new voters (none / 0) (#117)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Dec 14, 2020 at 03:19:18 PM EST
    But I can't find it in a quick search.

    If the republicans lose the senate Trump will be blamed.  And he should be.  Might do a lot to marginalize him.

    After what the world has seen republicans do for Crazy Trump just to hold his tiny hands until this runoff  if they still lose.....

    Well, I would be pi$$ed if it was me.