Joe Biden: Your Father's Oldsmobile is Honking at Us

Joe Biden has a new gimmick -- he may not only decide to run but he is considering Stacy Abrams as a VP candidate.

Memo to Dems: Stop funding Joe. He is not Obama. He's a crime warrior, especially on drugs. He's got a lousy record on criminal justice issues and has stuck us with some of the worst bills of the last generation. He once bragged in Congress he was tougher than George Bush I on crime. He is a police fan-boy. He's a one-man crime band.

Joe Biden is the self-admitted architect of the worst crime bills in history.

The 1994 crime bill provided tens of billions of dollars to put thousands of additional police on the streets, build new prisons, increase border protection, and fund crime prevention programs. It included several measures — including the Violence Against Women Act and a federal ban on certain assault weapons — that remain popular among many Democrats.


But it also eliminated Pell Grants for prison inmates, criminalized gang membership, contained $9.7 billion in funding for new prisons, established a three-strikes provision that mandated life sentences for people with two or more prior convictions found to have committed a violent felony, and gave states incentives to lengthen sentences.

He also drafted or co-sponsored legislation "that created the federal 'drug czar' and mandatory minimum sentencing for marijuana and the sentencing disparity for crack and powder cocaine." Even in 2014, he opposed legalization of marijuana.

We cannot forgive or forget Joe Biden's record on crime in the 1990's. Here's a Biden quote to Congress in 1995 when pushing for habeas limits, bragging about "the Biden bill" and how it authorized the death penalty that can be used for the Oklahoma City Bomber:

My colleagues on the Republican side of the aisle have repeatedly said in this bill that we must do something to ensure swift punishment of those who committed the Oklahoma City bombing. That is supposedly why, you might wonder, in a terrorism bill there is habeas corpus.

Well, the constant argument put forward is, look, we have to do this because once we find the person who did this awful thing in Oklahoma and they are convicted and sentenced to death, the death penalty must be carried out swiftly. I might add, a bill that the Presiding Officer and I voted for, the Biden crime bill, is the only reason there is a death penalty. Had we not voted for that bill, had that not passed last year, this finding of a person who committed the bombing, that person under Federal law would not be eligible to be put to death. There is no question that because of the action you and I and others took last year there is a death penalty now. So unlike the World Trade Tower, no death penalty would be there under Federal law had we not passed the Biden crime bill then.

The only crime bill we need now is a three strikes law that keeps Joe Biden from running for President for the third time.

Democrats can do so much better.

Memo to Biden: You are almost 80 years old. It's time to write your memoirs, not run for President. Let the Dems unify around a progressive candidate with a chance of winning. Look in the mirror. That person is not you.

Among Joe Biden's Greatest Hits (videos)

Joe Biden in 1993: Lock up all the predators

Joe Biden in 1989: Lock up the drug dealers

More Biden's Views on Liberal Democrats and Joe Biden's Plans Have Long Roots.

Another habit he has that makes me turn off the TV when he's on: he inserts his mother in every speech. Enough already. Talk about all of us, the American people. I could go on and on, and if he's in the primary race I will.

Bottom line: I'm not voting for an 80 year old to be President. It makes the likelihood we end up with a Veep for President much greater, and it is voting for a one term candidate, which will give the Republicans a leg up in 2024.

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    The polls that show him (5.00 / 2) (#3)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Mar 23, 2019 at 08:02:28 AM EST
    And Bernie, ahead are less than meaningless.  Nothing but name recognition.  From people who probably can't name a representative in congress or a Supreme Court justice.

    He must know this.  That thing with Abrams was just pathetic.  Like admitting he can't be taken seriously on his own.

    I know everybody says it's happening.  I still think he may reconsider losing again and decide to spend more time with his family.

    Stuff (5.00 / 2) (#12)
    by FlJoe on Sat Mar 30, 2019 at 05:39:51 AM EST
    like this
    "As I was taking deep breaths and preparing myself to make my case to the crowd, I felt two hands on my shoulders. I froze. "Why is the vice-president of the United States touching me?" Get unlimited access to The Cut and everything else New York. LEARN MORE » I felt him get closer to me from behind. He leaned further in and inhaled my hair. I was mortified. I thought to myself, "I didn't wash my hair today and the vice-president of the United States is smelling it. And also, what in the actual fuck? Why is the vice-president of the United States smelling my hair?" He proceeded to plant a big slow kiss on the back of my head."
     got Franken exiled...now Biden leads the polls, go figure.

    I wish (none / 0) (#1)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Mar 22, 2019 at 08:03:42 PM EST
    he would quit jacking around and just either announce he is running or not running. This is the same thing he did in 2016 until Obama yanked him by his ear and made him say in the Rose Garden that he was not running for president. It's like he wants us to beg him to run. At this point I think he might have waited too long since there are so many declared candidates already. And enough with the stunts of naming Stacey Abrams VP or running for only one term.

    Biden has many flaws (none / 0) (#2)
    by hilts on Fri Mar 22, 2019 at 11:35:26 PM EST
    in addition to what's already been cited he was a strong supporter of the Iraq war, he consistently supported banks over consumers, he plagiarized a British politician's biography in a speech, he often invades the personal space of women and girls he's meeting for the first time which is very creepy, and his public speaking skills are atrocious.  He struggles to deliver a speech without making 1 or 2 idiotic gaffes.  He needs to stay retired.

    Klobuchar i s (none / 0) (#4)
    by MKS on Sat Mar 23, 2019 at 08:48:09 PM EST
    my first choice.  Then maybe Booker or Kamala Harris.

    But if it takes voting for my father's Oldsmobile to beat Trump, I would happily do it.   And, if I had to, I would even vote for Bernie, kicking and screaming, over Trump.

    I went to see Kamala today (none / 0) (#7)
    by Ga6thDem on Sun Mar 24, 2019 at 08:48:21 PM EST
    in Atlanta. It was a diverse crowd. We heard a number of speeches from other people, some good and some bad. Jon Ossoff gave the best speech of all. I was kind of surprised that there did not seem to be the excitement surrounding Kamala that I thought there would be for her here in GA. I heard some people commenting and they seemed to be like me--just going for the curiosity factor and were undecided on a candidate.

    Mayor Pete (none / 0) (#5)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Mar 24, 2019 at 10:29:59 AM EST
    Is really growing on me.  

    I was skeptical (none / 0) (#6)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Mar 24, 2019 at 10:35:52 AM EST
    But he is convincing me he could actually do this.  Like Obama he recognized the time has come before we did.  Maybe.
    A gay Mr Rogers who is a veteran of faith that he is comfortable sharing.  Amen.  I don't think they would know where to start to go after him.
    Or rather every place they might start would backfire spectacularly.

    on Trump the bully


    I really hope he can. (none / 0) (#8)
    by vml68 on Sun Mar 24, 2019 at 10:10:58 PM EST
    Husband was home last weekend and the fact that Beto had said he was running came up.
    Our conversation...
    Husband - "You must be thrilled".
    Me - "I'm glad but I have moved on and have a new love."
    Husband (incredulous tone) - "Corey Booker???"
    Me - "Whaaaat!"
    Husband (thinks for a sec) - "Oh! Of course, Pete Buttigieg."
    Big smile on my face :-)!

    This morning (none / 0) (#9)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Mar 25, 2019 at 08:44:49 AM EST
    I don't particularly care for Mayor Pete's (none / 0) (#10)
    by vml68 on Thu Mar 28, 2019 at 01:16:46 PM EST
    Exactly (5.00 / 1) (#11)
    by FlJoe on Sat Mar 30, 2019 at 05:25:02 AM EST
    her campaign had virtually zero choice in how the race was covered. The media allowed tRump to suck up all the oxygen, policy was ignored, full stop.

    It amazes me (none / 0) (#13)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Apr 01, 2019 at 11:04:41 AM EST
    That the same media outlets who could not lynch Franken fast enough are falling over themselves and twisting themselves into pretzels to defend Biden and cover his azz.

    I don't think it's going to fly Andrea.

    In My Opinion... (5.00 / 2) (#14)
    by ScottW714 on Mon Apr 01, 2019 at 12:32:22 PM EST
    ...if this happened once, its happened many times.  To go up to someone you don't know, smell their hair and kiss the back of their head...  I mean I can only speak for myself but I have never done that to someone I didn't know very well.

    The notion that he doesn't remember it; can't quit bring himself to straight up deny it; very telling.
    Joe needs to go.

    Franken.  I feel like the military angle and that it was on tape is what sank his ship so quickly and yet bragging about it on tape doesn't effect others.


    I've commented on Biden's inappropriate (5.00 / 2) (#16)
    by vml68 on Mon Apr 01, 2019 at 03:53:22 PM EST
    touching a time or two on here . I was surprised it did not come up as a serious issue when he was VP.
    I've experienced a couple of situations very similar to what Lucy Flores describes and as a teen, I lived this moment a few times. I cringe every time I see it.
    It is one of the reasons I have never been a fan of "Uncle Joe" and could not understand his appeal. What some people see as affectionate behavior, I see as just plain creepy.

    I am (none / 0) (#19)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Apr 01, 2019 at 07:14:05 PM EST
    in agreement with you on this.

    The... (none / 0) (#22)
    by ScottW714 on Tue Apr 02, 2019 at 09:05:31 AM EST
    ...'Uncle Joe' moniker has always given me the creeps.  While I think it's cute that my niece and nephew call me Uncle Scott, it's creepy for strangers and adults to refer to someone as Uncle so & so.

    Try typing the word (none / 0) (#23)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Apr 02, 2019 at 09:43:30 AM EST
    "Creepy" into google and see what your first choice is

    Probably (none / 0) (#15)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Apr 01, 2019 at 02:08:40 PM EST
    About the last sentence, one of the most amazing things to me is I'm hearing, from the so called left, that "how can we be so upset about hair sniffing with Trump in the White House"

    Which totally boggles my mind because that's exactly why there has to be zero tolerance.  


    So the Bar... (none / 0) (#24)
    by ScottW714 on Tue Apr 02, 2019 at 01:58:17 PM EST
    ...according to some is what, anything goes as long as you don't admit on tape that you liked grabbing p***y ?

    An earlier conversation regarding Rahm had me wondering something, it totally sucks that the party can't disavow people who stray way too far from the the party line.  

    Defending unwanted kissing/smelling/groping should be grounds for revocation of the 'D' behind their names.  Uncle Joe won't even defend himself, he's going with the faulty memory.


    Seriously (none / 0) (#20)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Apr 01, 2019 at 07:16:02 PM EST
    tired of the media and their nonsense. Beyond tired of their nonsense.

    It's not gonna fly because frankly we have a lot of other candidates. Joe is too old and he is the past.


    At the End of Last Week (none / 0) (#21)
    by RickyJim on Mon Apr 01, 2019 at 09:08:39 PM EST
    By the numbers: This week's new polls showed a pretty stable race.

    Quinnipiac: Biden (29), Sanders (19), O'Rouke (12), Harris (8), Buttigieg and Warren (4), Booker and Klobuchar (2), Castro and Hickenlooper (1)
    Morning Consult: Biden (35), Sanders (25), Harris and O'Rouke (8), Warren (7), Booker (4), Klobuchar and Buttigieg (2), Gillibrand (1)
    Flashback: At this stage of the 2015 GOP presidential primary, Donald Trump wasn't even in the polling average


    Yeah, and (5.00 / 1) (#26)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Apr 02, 2019 at 03:32:47 PM EST
    we've had no debates and fantasy Biden always polls better than the real Biden after he starts talking and shooting himself in the foot.

    When my parents passed, (none / 0) (#17)
    by fishcamp on Mon Apr 01, 2019 at 04:08:50 PM EST
    I inherited an Oldsmobile exactly like the one in J's photo.  It was in Salem, Oregon.  I gave it to my little sister.

    I don't care for Joe... (none / 0) (#29)
    by desertswine on Tue Apr 02, 2019 at 04:31:09 PM EST
    I don't dislike him either.  It's just that, like that Olds, his time has passed.

    If he runs (5.00 / 1) (#30)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Apr 02, 2019 at 04:55:53 PM EST
    Still not convinced he will, he is going to get some very serious questions.

    Saying "I wish I could have done more" for Anita Hill when he was the chairman of the committee that refused to allow other women testify is just not going to cut it.

    Among other thing.


    I have still (5.00 / 2) (#39)
    by Zorba on Thu Apr 04, 2019 at 01:08:44 PM EST
    Not forgiven him for that whole Anita Hill/Clarence Thomas idiocy.

    While I believed strongly that we all need to vote for the Democratic Presidential nominee in 2020, because.....Donald.....I am going to have a really, really hard time voting for Biden if he does run and does get nominated.

    {{Sigh}}  I'll have to do it, given the danger of Trump winning another four years.  But I won't like it, I won't give his campaign any money, and I won't work for him.  He'll be lucky just to get my vote.


    I still can't believe (none / 0) (#41)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Apr 04, 2019 at 01:33:32 PM EST
    After all his years in politics he could possibly be self absorbed enough to believe his "front runner" status at this point is anything but name recognition.

    But never underestimate the self absorption of a two time presidential candidate I guess.

    But I really really don't think we will be faced with a Trump/Biden decision in any case.


    I seriously doubt that (none / 0) (#42)
    by Zorba on Thu Apr 04, 2019 at 03:07:40 PM EST
    Biden will actually get the nomination (although, stranger things have happened), but I do think that most people who run for office are fairly conceited or they wouldn't run.  

    Most, or at least a lot, of them think that they have the answer.  Some of them, it's true, run for (more or less) altruistic reasons.  But after awhile, even those with the best of intentions initially begin to believe that they are the ones who deserve to win.

    Call me a cynic, but that's my take on most politicians.


    He got to skip all those (none / 0) (#31)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Apr 02, 2019 at 05:21:14 PM EST
    Questions when Obama just picked him.  Questions about his past positions on race and law enforcement that Hillary got hammered for as a candidate and on and on.

    And then there is the sniffing.


    Well, he needs to just fade away. (5.00 / 1) (#33)
    by desertswine on Tue Apr 02, 2019 at 10:41:42 PM EST
    Another woman (none / 0) (#18)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Apr 01, 2019 at 05:42:05 PM EST
    2 More & Counting... (none / 0) (#35)
    by ScottW714 on Wed Apr 03, 2019 at 09:29:06 AM EST
    Come on Joe, say it ain't so:
    Caitlyn Caruso, a former college student and sexual assault survivor, said Mr. Biden rested his hand on her thigh -- even as she squirmed in her seat to show her discomfort -- and hugged her "just a little bit too long" at an event on sexual assault at the University of Nevada at Las Vegas. She was 19.

    Ms. Caruso, now 22, said she chalked up the encounter at the time to how men act, and did not say anything publicly. But she said it was particularly uncomfortable because she had just shared her own story of sexual assault and had expected Mr. Biden -- an architect of the 1994 Violence Against Women Act -- to understand the importance of physical boundaries.

    One has to think that Joe is probably pretty glad he didn't announce that he is running.  I don't know how he digs himself outta this one; I don't know that he should even try.  

    When Trump starts making fun of you in regards to your treatment of women it's probably time to call it a day.


    Having worked for some time (none / 0) (#25)
    by CST on Tue Apr 02, 2019 at 02:39:34 PM EST
    In hospitality I'll say there are a lot of old men who don't understand or no longer care about personal boundaries with young women.    Generally speaking we tend to give some leeway (within reason) because they are old, and no longer relevant, or even losing their faculties and generally don't have the kind of power that they are used to, so they get "humored" within reason.

    I can live with that as a social contract,  within reason of course.  I don't think that person should be president.

    I think a lot of this (none / 0) (#27)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Apr 02, 2019 at 03:34:57 PM EST
    is generational. While some maybe be losing their faculties for many this is what was normal and how you treated women decades ago.

    Right (none / 0) (#28)
    by CST on Tue Apr 02, 2019 at 04:04:30 PM EST
    Which is why we give them leeway in real life and also why we don't elect them to run the country in this day and age.

    We Don't ? (none / 0) (#34)
    by ScottW714 on Wed Apr 03, 2019 at 08:54:10 AM EST
    Ouch (none / 0) (#36)
    by CST on Wed Apr 03, 2019 at 11:52:37 AM EST
    We in this context meaning Democrats.    I hope...

    Joe Biden has many shortcomings (none / 0) (#32)
    by hilts on Tue Apr 02, 2019 at 08:59:39 PM EST
    Jeralyn highlighted his involvement with the crime bill.  Let's not forget his enthusiastic support for the Iraq war and Biden has always been a friend of banks and credit card companies.

    His handsy touchy feely behavior around women and girls is inexcusable and unacceptable. I didn't care for the lame excuse that his allies were pushing that he did not have impure thoughts when he touched these women.  If living in this world for 76 years is not long enough for Biden to have learned the basic rules of social etiquette between men and women then he's simply too dumb to be President.

    And as Jeralyn said, he's obviously too old to be President.

    He also has the worst public speaking skills of any presidential candidate I've seen in decades.  The last Democrat we need to make the case against Donald Trump is a gaffe gushering buffoon like Joe Biden.

    Biden's video changes nothing for me (none / 0) (#37)
    by hilts on Wed Apr 03, 2019 at 08:00:54 PM EST
    He couldn't even manage to say he was sorry or that he apologized.  The video was very self serving and simply reinforced how out of touch Biden has been for decades. I hope Biden gets humiliated in Iowa and NH so that he'll shamed into withdrawing from the race.

    First He Would Have to Actually... (none / 0) (#38)
    by ScottW714 on Thu Apr 04, 2019 at 09:19:18 AM EST
    ...have to declare he is a candidate.

    I didn't like him acting like touching women inappropriately is some newfangled social etiquette that he has just discovered.


    May I just say (5.00 / 3) (#40)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Apr 04, 2019 at 01:23:20 PM EST
    As someone who is decidedly NOT a "hugger" and who really does not particularly like being touched by strangers I completely understand how this could not necessarily be sexual and still be icky.

    Rule of thumb, don't touch someone beyond a handshake unless you are invited.  And don't ever walk up behind be and get close enough to smell anything unless you want to get punched.


    I'm With You... (5.00 / 3) (#43)
    by ScottW714 on Thu Apr 04, 2019 at 03:24:37 PM EST
    ...after 20 years, I still can't deal with all the hugging in Texas.

    It may not be sexual, but it's intimate, and not something to be shared with just anyone because they have arms.

    What I find really odd, in the year 2019, is how much people are still hugging at work.  I wouldn't call it a lot, but it's not uncommon either and between germs & harassment it baffles me that companies haven't just said 'no' to hugging at the office.

    That being said, Joe is past hugging, with the 3 new allegations today he is up to hands on thighs of sexual assault victim, Eskimo kisses, 2 forehead mind melds, endless shoulder rubs, and a hair smell/head kiss.  

    At what point do we call it sexual, he's not kissing guys or rubbing their thighs and tell them they are pretty ?


    Great point (5.00 / 1) (#45)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Apr 04, 2019 at 03:34:47 PM EST
    Appallingly presumptuous (5.00 / 3) (#47)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Apr 04, 2019 at 03:49:07 PM EST
    To believe someone wants to be hugged because it would make YOU feel better to hug them.

    Don't hug me.  I don't hug.


    Wish I could uprate this comment a 100 times. (none / 0) (#59)
    by vml68 on Thu Apr 04, 2019 at 04:27:24 PM EST
    I've been called a stuck up/snotty b!tch (behind my back, of course!) for not wanting to be hugged by women who are just acquaintances.
    People tend to be okay with a woman not being comfortable being hugged by male acquaintances but back away from female acquaintances and suddenly they look at you like you have some issues (not saying I don't have issues, but still...)

    Issues (none / 0) (#61)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Apr 04, 2019 at 04:32:52 PM EST
    Are your god given RIGHT

    Had to look up Eskimo kiss. (none / 0) (#53)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Thu Apr 04, 2019 at 04:15:16 PM EST
    He totally did it (none / 0) (#56)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Apr 04, 2019 at 04:20:07 PM EST
    Think about that for a second.

    There is "campaigning" and there is Eskimo kissing a stranger.  A strange woman.


    Oh yeah, I agree. (none / 0) (#58)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Thu Apr 04, 2019 at 04:24:50 PM EST
    Everytime I see this picture, it makes me (5.00 / 2) (#60)
    by vml68 on Thu Apr 04, 2019 at 04:32:49 PM EST
    uncomfortable but it also makes me laugh.
    The look on these two guys' faces!

    This is the One... (none / 0) (#76)
    by ScottW714 on Fri Apr 05, 2019 at 12:51:44 PM EST
    ...that makes me wish I had a blog.  I would leave this one open for captions.  I mean they look like they are about to throw down right in front of hubby.  

    Stacey Abrams expressed (none / 0) (#44)
    by KeysDan on Thu Apr 04, 2019 at 03:34:20 PM EST
    support for Biden's response to his being overly physical saying it was what we should be looking for in our elected leaders.

     "We cannot have perfection as a litmus test.  The responsibility of leaders is not to be perfect but to be accountable, to say: I've made a mistake.  I understand it and here is what I'm going to do about it as I move forward.  And, I think Joe Biden is doing that."

    Stacey makes a good point, but the particular imperfection needs to fit the accountability acknowledgement.

     And, while the relevance or severity of the imperfection cannot be assessed on the basis of what Trump et al can attack, since perfection, itself, is not immune from the most imperfect orange, it loom large when of almost universal agreement.

     Biden's unannounced tactile proclivities, primary directed toward women, although not in the category of sexual assault or harassment, apparently, likely has never been welcome, just tolerated.

    While Joe Biden would not be my favorite candidate, if he becomes one, but, in fairness, I believe we need to look at his entire and long career and assess its pros and cons.  Including this retail politicking relic.

    I am all for looking at his record (none / 0) (#46)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Apr 04, 2019 at 03:39:12 PM EST
    In short it sucks pretty hard.  

    From the horrendous crime bill Hillary had nothing to do with but was still punished for to Anita Hill to thinking bussing was not a bad idea.  

    I could go on.

    I would vote for Biden if it came to that.  We need to make sure, IMO, it doesn't.


    Agreed. (none / 0) (#48)
    by KeysDan on Thu Apr 04, 2019 at 04:07:29 PM EST
    I would vote for Biden, too, if it came to that.  He was a heart beat away from president for eight years, so we could deal with him as actual president if necessary.   His long record certainly is spotty, the most significant, positive issue that comes to me is his influence on Obama in evolving to support same sex marriage.  

    I hope his reasons were (none / 0) (#54)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Apr 04, 2019 at 04:18:03 PM EST

    But forgive me for suspecting it was a reading of the political climate.

    Which is why I think he won't run.  He is an astute reader of political climate.    If he does maybe I will give him more credit for that particular choice.  


    Preening ego is a powerful drug. (none / 0) (#64)
    by caseyOR on Thu Apr 04, 2019 at 07:09:40 PM EST
    And Biden has a serious preening ego.

    Don't (none / 0) (#49)
    by FlJoe on Thu Apr 04, 2019 at 04:07:30 PM EST
    forget the bankruptcy bill, Warren will flame him over it, they have sparred before
    On a February morning in 2005 in a hearing room in the Dirksen Senate Office Building, Joe Biden confronted Elizabeth Warren over a subject they'd been feuding over for years: the country's bankruptcy laws. Biden, then a senator from Delaware, was one of the strongest backers of a bill meant to address the skyrocketing rate at which Americans were filing for bankruptcy. Warren, at the time a Harvard law professor, had been fighting to kill the same legislation for seven years. She had castigated Biden, accusing him of trying "to sell out women" by pushing for earlier versions of the bill. Now, with the legislation nearing a vote, Biden publicly grappled with Warren face to face.
    many people think that was the launch of her political career.

    Who the heck is Biden's base anyway?


    Biden "base" (none / 0) (#52)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Apr 04, 2019 at 04:14:13 PM EST
    Is people who recognize his name on a list because he was VP for 8 years



    My (none / 0) (#55)
    by FlJoe on Thu Apr 04, 2019 at 04:19:44 PM EST
    thinking also but most of the pundits and apparently Biden himself can't see that.

    The pundits fer sure (none / 0) (#57)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Apr 04, 2019 at 04:21:13 PM EST
    I am amazed every time I watch news.  

    Biden?  Maybe.  We will see.


    Just to clarify (none / 0) (#50)
    by CST on Thu Apr 04, 2019 at 04:08:13 PM EST
    Biden was against bussing.

    Also,  as someone who was personally bussed in a racially segregated city I could talk about this subject for a long time, including the fact that it was, IMO,  largely unsuccessful at integrating the school system here and we are now looking at alternatives to bussing.

    Thst said, I absolutely do not trust the racial views of people who opposed bussing before it was implemented. That might be due to local bias, but it is what it is.


    This is actually pretty funny (5.00 / 2) (#70)
    by Peter G on Fri Apr 05, 2019 at 08:58:02 AM EST
    "Bussing" means kissing (with an implication of quickly or casually, and not necessarily on the lips), while "busing" means "transporting by bus."  In Biden's case, he was against the wrong kind. Perhaps it was just a spelling error.

    That is funny (none / 0) (#71)
    by CST on Fri Apr 05, 2019 at 09:57:32 AM EST
    Also this is one of those words I actually have to write a decent amount and pretty much always get it wrong (usually the plural form buses or busses).  I am also notorious in my family for being a terrible speller.

    On the upside I chose a career path where the people who read what I write are almost all worse at spelling than me.


    Here's an even better run-down (none / 0) (#75)
    by Peter G on Fri Apr 05, 2019 at 12:34:48 PM EST
    Correct (none / 0) (#51)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Apr 04, 2019 at 04:13:08 PM EST
    My apologies

    Did not know about the bussing. (none / 0) (#62)
    by vml68 on Thu Apr 04, 2019 at 04:33:49 PM EST
    Off to google to read up on it.

    Read Biden's remarks about bussing. (5.00 / 1) (#63)
    by caseyOR on Thu Apr 04, 2019 at 07:07:16 PM EST
    What a total apologist for white middle class racism and privilege. His aim, seemingly, was to make white people feel not just justified, but good in their racism.

    And his votes and stances on abortion are quite concerning.

    Also, all people facing crushing student loan debt and wondering why Trump could file bankruptcy six times, but they cannot discharge student loan debt through bankruptcy need look no further than Joe Biden, champion of credit card companies and banks.

    His record is abysmal even if one adjusts for the times (1970s-present day).

    Joe really benefits from the Obama halo and the horribleness of Trump.


    Well, it looks like he is going to run. (none / 0) (#65)
    by vml68 on Thu Apr 04, 2019 at 09:53:09 PM EST
    Sigh (none / 0) (#66)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Apr 04, 2019 at 10:12:36 PM EST
    The dependably vacuous media will prop him up right up until he starts losing primaries probably.

    Then they will be surprised he is losing.  Then they will be sad he lost.


    look out for this (none / 0) (#67)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Apr 04, 2019 at 10:37:13 PM EST
    Coming to a campaign ad near you

    Former Democratic Vice President Joe Biden said Sunday he promised his dying son Beau he would not retreat from life after his son's death
    Biden made the comments during an appearance in Vermont that is part of his ongoing tour promoting his book, "Promise Me, Dad: A Year of Hope, Hardship, and Purpose," which he wrote after Beau Biden's 2015 death from cancer.
    Last week during an appearance in Montana, Biden said he felt he was the most qualified person in the country to be president.

    Dec 2018


    Biden was against bussing? (none / 0) (#79)
    by jmacWA on Fri Apr 05, 2019 at 03:29:03 PM EST
    Not so sure about that depends on the definition of buss :)

    See especially the second definition... archaic, just like Biden


    Biden was against bussing? (none / 0) (#80)
    by jmacWA on Fri Apr 05, 2019 at 03:29:32 PM EST
    Not so sure about that depends on the definition of buss :)

    See especially the second definition... archaic, just like Biden


    O M G (none / 0) (#68)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Apr 05, 2019 at 08:27:20 AM EST
    Piggy is right Joe.  DONT DO IT.  You are too good for us.  We don't deserve you.

    (You might not want to read this right after eating and definitely not with food in your mouth)

    If Biden Runs, They'll Tear Him Up

    Forgot the quote (none / 0) (#69)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Apr 05, 2019 at 08:30:18 AM EST

    By Peggy Noonan
    April 4, 2019 7:24 p.m. ET

    Don't do it, Joe.

    Don't run for president. It won't work, you won't get the nomination, your loss will cause pain and not only for you.

    Today (none / 0) (#72)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Apr 05, 2019 at 11:10:28 AM EST
    Ms Greenspan's show is a love letter to the Piggy Noonan (sorry I can't f'ing resist) OpEd.

    Just f'ing kill me.


    Alexandra Petri has a good (5.00 / 1) (#77)
    by leap on Fri Apr 05, 2019 at 01:02:24 PM EST
    take on handsy, sniffy Joe. Her's is so much better than Piggy-the-Sot's purple prose.

    O M F G (none / 0) (#73)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Apr 05, 2019 at 11:32:39 AM EST
    Biden BELIEVES the polls.

    It's official.  God help us all.  BREAKING NEWS.

    Andrea is SO excited.


    It's (none / 0) (#74)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Apr 05, 2019 at 11:47:22 AM EST


    Biden is good.  TRUMP IS BAD.  How could you possibly confuse the 2.

    I swear to god a quote

    "Indeed, but what Biden is trying to communicate to younger voters, and even "older" voters, is that he has the ability, the experience and the VISION to take "Amurka" into the "next direction".

    No shi+

    "The idea you have to be YOUNG and NEW and FRESH is one Biden is pushing back on.

    NO SHI+




    Harper's Magazine... (none / 0) (#78)
    by desertswine on Fri Apr 05, 2019 at 02:12:26 PM EST
    No Joe!
    Joe Biden's disastrous legislative legacy

    by Andrew Cockburn

    I don't know if this link will work.  Maybe not.  I have a subscription to Harper's.  Yes, I still get print magazines, three of them.  Harper's, Smithsonian, and Natural History.  I like the feel of a magazine.  I sometimes find it difficult to read on the laptop.  Besides, I can take them to the john.