The Host-less Oscars Thread

The Oscars are host-less this year. I think ratings, which haven't been good in recent years, will be even worse tonight.

Have any of you seen any of the movies that are up for awards?

Here's a place to discuss the Oscars if you're watching.

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    I like the no host thing (5.00 / 1) (#1)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Feb 24, 2019 at 07:18:31 PM EST
    What does the host do really.

    I hope it's a trend.

    It's a good year for clothes (none / 0) (#3)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Feb 24, 2019 at 07:20:01 PM EST
    I, too, like the no host (none / 0) (#21)
    by caseyOR on Sun Feb 24, 2019 at 08:22:53 PM EST
    Oscars. I hope this becomes the norm.

    Looks we are not alone (none / 0) (#47)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Feb 25, 2019 at 05:06:35 PM EST
    Yet, up 12% in viewers and 13% in the key demo over the 2018 Jimmy Kimmel fronted show, the 2019 Oscars are the most watched non-sports show on all of TV since the 32.9 million who tuned in for the 2017 Oscars

    Spike Lee was too weird for me, (5.00 / 1) (#59)
    by fishcamp on Tue Feb 26, 2019 at 12:06:28 PM EST
    And I do weird quite well.

    Trying to get to watch through Locast (none / 0) (#2)
    by scribe on Sun Feb 24, 2019 at 07:19:21 PM EST
    which supposedly streams over-the-air broadcasts for free (and has not yet drawn the ire of the networks).

    I'm staying in an airbnb with no TV but with wifi.  

    Well, I'm in one of the Big Cities it supposedly serves, but it tells me I'm not in the continental United States and therefore they don't have rights to show me anything.
    And it takes forever to load - which might be a function of everyone wanting to watch something and gagging their servers, or it might be a function of me taking their "free" at face value and declining to "donate" anything to them.

    Let me know how this turns out - I have an early wakeup and won't mess with trying to watch much longer.

    And that guy with the velvet tuxedo gown?  Never heard of him before.  Probably killed his career with that getup but it'll be a slow death, not sudden.  Still, it seems to have been a good look.  Not one I could pull off, but still.

    That was Billy Porter (none / 0) (#4)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Feb 24, 2019 at 07:22:46 PM EST
    I don't think his career will suffer.

    I wish him well (none / 0) (#6)
    by scribe on Sun Feb 24, 2019 at 07:26:41 PM EST
    Only time will tell. ... Friday morning, Robert Kraft was on top of the football world and now he's got a warrant out for him in Florida (and at home in Mass.).  Things can change quickly.

    That was conservative (none / 0) (#9)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Feb 24, 2019 at 07:31:21 PM EST
    To hell with locast. (none / 0) (#5)
    by scribe on Sun Feb 24, 2019 at 07:24:46 PM EST
    I'm going to switch back to German radio and the ARD Nachtkonzert, through Bavarian Radio, which they gladly stream to the world for free.
    Better music and no idiot commentators/hosts.

    Locast... (none / 0) (#43)
    by ScottW714 on Mon Feb 25, 2019 at 01:05:18 PM EST
    ... "has not yet drawn the ire of the networks" nor will it because of the very issue you are having, that you are not local.

    Online (none / 0) (#7)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Feb 24, 2019 at 07:26:42 PM EST
    I hope (none / 0) (#8)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Feb 24, 2019 at 07:29:04 PM EST
    Black Panther wins.

    The the do the voting now with the split support for the others it could.

    Costumes! (none / 0) (#10)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Feb 24, 2019 at 07:32:04 PM EST
    Set decoration! (none / 0) (#15)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Feb 24, 2019 at 07:40:54 PM EST
    I really like JoLos (none / 0) (#11)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Feb 24, 2019 at 07:35:31 PM EST
    Mirror crockadile  thing

    But the best dress (none / 0) (#12)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Feb 24, 2019 at 07:38:12 PM EST
    Might be the 4,000,000 bead 42 pound thing.

    Glen Close (none / 0) (#13)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Feb 24, 2019 at 07:39:10 PM EST
    Velvet tuxes (none / 0) (#14)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Feb 24, 2019 at 07:40:33 PM EST
    A definitely a thing.

    I saw Blank Panther, A Star is Born and (none / 0) (#16)
    by McBain on Sun Feb 24, 2019 at 07:50:22 PM EST
    Bohemian Rhapsody.  Panther and Rhapsody were fun but not great.  Star was so so.  If I have to pick from those, I'll go with Bohemian Rhapsody.  

    I would have liked to see Jamie Lee Curtis get a nomination for the latest Halloween movie. Not saying she was amazing but the actual best actress nominations look pretty boring.

    I saw Cicely Tyson (none / 0) (#17)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Feb 24, 2019 at 07:52:59 PM EST
    On the red carpet.  I hope she presents.  She looks great.

    At least I saw a few (none / 0) (#18)
    by desertswine on Sun Feb 24, 2019 at 08:00:36 PM EST
    of the nominated movies this year.  Usually I see none of them.  

    I think I've seen them all (none / 0) (#19)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Feb 24, 2019 at 08:08:07 PM EST
    EXcept Vice and Favorite

    Hah... those were the two that I did see. (none / 0) (#24)
    by desertswine on Sun Feb 24, 2019 at 08:26:55 PM EST
    Wow (none / 0) (#20)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Feb 24, 2019 at 08:11:17 PM EST
    Bette looks great.

    And sounds great.

    The first time I saw her I was wearing a towel

    The baths, eh, Howdy? (5.00 / 1) (#22)
    by caseyOR on Sun Feb 24, 2019 at 08:24:15 PM EST
    That dates you. And knowing the reference dates me. Just a couple of old queers.

    Continental Baths (none / 0) (#23)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Feb 24, 2019 at 08:26:10 PM EST
    Basement of the Antonia Hotel.  1972

    Later became infamous as (none / 0) (#33)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Feb 24, 2019 at 11:07:37 PM EST
    Ali is a heck of a actor (none / 0) (#25)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Feb 24, 2019 at 08:27:40 PM EST
    He is probably going to win an Emmy for True Dectective.

    The season finale of which I am missing to watch this.  Later.

    Amazing (none / 0) (#39)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Feb 25, 2019 at 11:08:10 AM EST
    Best finale since Breaking Bad

    True Detective's finale starts with a bluff, then tells a new story

    "Now Am Found" also delivers the last thing I expected from True Detective: a happy ending.

    The other awsum thing (none / 0) (#40)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Feb 25, 2019 at 11:21:12 AM EST
    Is this was set in AR.  not far from me.  That's not really the good part.  That would be "Hoyt" a chicken magnate who could not be more obviously based on Tyson




    Click the link (none / 0) (#41)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Feb 25, 2019 at 11:30:26 AM EST

    Employee abuse   
    An Oxfam report issued in 2016 cited anonymous employees who stated they have been denied bathroom breaks so frequently that they have started wearing adult diapers to work. According to the report:[50]

    Workers struggle to cope with this denial of a basic human need. They urinate and defecate while standing on the line; they wear diapers to work; they restrict intake of liquids and fluids to dangerous degrees; they endure pain and discomfort while they worry about their health and job security.

    So, that is where Amazon... (none / 0) (#46)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Mon Feb 25, 2019 at 04:55:12 PM EST
    got their business model.

    Ok (none / 0) (#26)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Feb 24, 2019 at 08:29:55 PM EST
    The short pants cammo and bling is my favorite so far.

    Saw this interesting bit (none / 0) (#27)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Feb 24, 2019 at 08:41:22 PM EST
    of legal movie news earlier

    Leaving Neverland airs early next month on HBO. It's a tell-all story from two men who claim to have been sexually abused at Michael Jackson's Neverland ranch back in the 1990s. Its Sundance premiere saw extra security present, thanks to death threats. A trailer came out this week, and its YouTube comments are a nightmare.

    Despite Weitzman's statement, the lawsuit doesn't actually centre on defamation per se. Back in 1992, HBO aired Michael Jackson in Concert in Bucharest: The Dangerous Tour, and according to the estate, the contract included an agreement not to disparage Jackson - in, I'm assuming, perpetuity. According to Variety, the estate isn't accusing HBO of defamation - which would require proof the allegations were false - but of breaching the terms of a contract.

    Contract law is no joke. Late last year, I was in the middle of writing an exposé of sorts, about a now-deceased multimillionaire I once worked for. The piece got killed before it could see the light of day, and for essentially this same reason. It sucks. But that multimillionaire absolutely did all the things in the (you'll have to trust me, amazing) story I was writing. Take that in the context of this article however you like.

    I can see a court ruling that a contract (none / 0) (#28)
    by Peter G on Sun Feb 24, 2019 at 08:55:16 PM EST
    barring the publication, in perpetuity, of truthful information on a matter of legitimate public interest, particularly after the death of the subject, was "against public policy" (which can make a contract unenforceable) and/or that enforcing the contract would violate the First Amendment.

    Or HBO... (none / 0) (#44)
    by ScottW714 on Mon Feb 25, 2019 at 01:10:14 PM EST
    ...could just sell it a party with no such 'agreement' ?

    Now that you've piqued (none / 0) (#30)
    by jondee on Sun Feb 24, 2019 at 09:57:26 PM EST
    our morbid curiosity..

    You could always fictionalize it by  concocting some new names, right?

    I'm picturing a Mason Verger from Hannibal kinda guy. But that's probably just my overactive imagination.


    That was not Howdy's own story (none / 0) (#31)
    by Peter G on Sun Feb 24, 2019 at 10:58:58 PM EST
    He's quoting a show biz reporter, Andrew Todd.

    Wasn't really (none / 0) (#32)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Feb 24, 2019 at 11:00:45 PM EST
    Sure what that meant.

    My bad (none / 0) (#35)
    by jondee on Sun Feb 24, 2019 at 11:57:01 PM EST
    HBO (none / 0) (#29)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Feb 24, 2019 at 09:06:34 PM EST
    Doesn't seem very concerned.  But it's sure going to land with a thud.

    check out the hysterical YouTube comments

    The guys not kidding.  They are a nightmare.

    Whether one chooses to believe ... (none / 0) (#34)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sun Feb 24, 2019 at 11:41:19 PM EST
    ... Michael Jackson's accusers or the fervent denials of the late entertainer's estate, the question still lingers ten years after his passing: Did he really do it?

    Without a doubt, Jackson was one of the most gifted, dynamic and talented musicians of the last half of the 20th century, whose stage presence was undeniable, and who brought joy to millions of people. He was also, allegedly, a pedophile who preyed upon young boys.

    I would note here for fans of the self-styled King of Pop that life is not a zero-sum game, and that these two concepts are not mutually exclusive. If the stories in Leaving Neverland are to be believed, some of these young victims became available to the singer due to the close proximity of their star-struck parents. Jackson's fans need to accept that possibility and deal with it.

    For those who would claim with some justification that Jackson was acquitted at trial in 2005 on all charges in Santa Barbara County Superior Court, I would in turn point out that Wade Robson, who's one of the late singer's two accusers and alleged victims in Leaving Neverland, was also one of the key defense witnesses at that same trial.

    Robson's close relationship with Jackson and his repeated denials of sex abuse on the stand helped lead the jury toward a verdict of not guilty. He's now admitted to having perjured himself as a defense witness, and says he regrets his role in Jackson's acquittal. In his defense, Robson was a still star-struck 21-year-old in 2005. He later suffered two nervous breakdowns.

    But while the late King of Pop's alleged victims must cope with the resultant pain and anguish that stems from child sexual abuse, why should this story matter to the rest of us, really, now that Jackson's dead? For better or worse, how we as a society collectively answer that question will likely be key to the singer's posthumous popularity and continued record sales.

    The Jackson estate's trustees know this, and that's why they're going ballistic with HBO. Because as we're seeing with Bill Cosby and more recently with Jussie Smollett, one's public reputation and continued viability as an entertainment commodity often go hand in hand.



    I would guess Jackos (none / 0) (#36)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Feb 25, 2019 at 12:19:08 AM EST
    Catalog is worth more than Cosby or Jussie put together would ever be.  

    As far as why, I dunno.  He was sick.  Clearly.  A tortured sole.  Doesn't make him any less talented.  I don't think it was his intention to harm the boys.  But he did. Prodigious talent and darkest demons seem to go hand in hand pretty often.

    I think the truth should be known.  I don't think it needs to be denied or avoided to appreciate his gifts.  I seems some, many, need to deny his demons.  They can't hold the truth of both his gifts and his demons.  Thats not a problem for me.  

    But again as for why?  Because those boys deserve to heal.  They deserve to have the story told.



    Also FWIW (5.00 / 5) (#37)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Feb 25, 2019 at 12:37:09 AM EST
    Maybe some day he can be seen as the abused and exploited child he totally was.  Marketed like a product from the time he was much younger than the boys he abused

    Taking their childhood like some kind of tragic vampire because he was never allowed to have one of his own.


    Hey Howdy (5.00 / 4) (#42)
    by sj on Mon Feb 25, 2019 at 12:36:28 PM EST
    I been here maybe 3 or 4 times a year since I left but I logged in just to upgrade your comment.*

    MJ was a tragic figure. In so many ways. I feel so sorry for those boys, but I feel sorry for him, too.

    * Okay so maybe not the biggest, most "significant" comment, but it touched my heart.


    Nice to see you (5.00 / 2) (#45)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Feb 25, 2019 at 03:54:06 PM EST
    Absolutely, Jackson was exploited and abused. (none / 0) (#60)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Tue Feb 26, 2019 at 07:08:46 PM EST
    And I agree that he was a tortured soul as a result. Even so, as he got older and became weirder, he really started to creep me out. Even though my tastes run more toward rock, I really used to like listening to him; "Off the Wall" was one of my favorite albums when I was younger. Now, I find it hard to listen to his music because of the ick factor, which is probably stupid because he's been dead for nearly a decade. But admittedly, that's my problem and not anybody else's. There's no reason why other people can't continue to enjoy his talent if they want to.

    AMERICAN GODS (none / 0) (#38)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Feb 25, 2019 at 10:44:28 AM EST
    STARZ is rerunning season one before season 2 in 2 weeks.

    It really is amazing

    Trump Spike Lee & Green Book (none / 0) (#48)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Feb 25, 2019 at 06:46:35 PM EST
    I'm sure we've probably all seen or heard about Trumps twitter freak out over Spike Lee advocating his defeat in 2020

    Another day another tweet.

    But IMO Lee did not exactly cover himself with glory last night

    Our Pete Hammond reported from the Dolby Theatre that Lee clearly was furious, got up and walked toward the back of the auditorium in a huff. He then turned back and appeared to get into an intense conversation with Jordan Peele, who was behind him. Lee paced the aisle and stormed to the back of the auditorium. When he came back, he turned his back to the stage during the speech.

    I'm sorry.  That's just childish and petty.  I thought Green Book was excellent and totally deserved the Oscar.  It might not be the story of prejudice Lee would tell but it was great.  And clearly I'm not alone in thinking that.

    I was so happy to see Congressman John Lewis on the stage supporting the movie.

    I'm sure that was done because they excepted a stunt like Lees

    I have always thought he was a great director and a bit of an azz.


    Lee owes me money. (none / 0) (#49)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Mon Feb 25, 2019 at 06:49:35 PM EST
    For realz.

    Shamalan (none / 0) (#50)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Feb 25, 2019 at 06:56:55 PM EST
    Owes me for every one of his movies I ever paid to see except Sixth Sense.  And for my time for the ones I didn't pay for.

    Ha (none / 0) (#51)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Mon Feb 25, 2019 at 06:58:49 PM EST
    And btw (none / 0) (#52)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Feb 25, 2019 at 07:09:31 PM EST
    I'm aware he is not alone in that opinion.  Which is what it is.  An opinion.  And one clearly not shared by all actors of color.

    I was glad to see Octavia Spenser and others go up on the stage in support of the win.

    So we all have opinions but as far as I know Lee was the only one to flip out and run up and down the aisles


    I didn't care for 'Green Book.' (none / 0) (#61)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Tue Feb 26, 2019 at 07:36:46 PM EST
    I walked out of the theatre after seeing it feeling like my intelligence has been roundly insulted. But my wife loved it, as did my mother. Go figure.

    Now, there have been a number of Best Picture winners over the years that I haven't liked. "Titanic" was so tedious and clichéd, I was rooting for the iceberg. And don't get me started on "Forrest Gump," "Rain Man," and "Chariots of Fire."

    We all have different tastes. I respect those critics who felt the way I do about "Green Book" but honestly, some of the negative opinions expressed have been so over the top that I find it hard to take them seriously. I mean, yeah, okay, so "Green Book" won the Oscar for Best Picture. Like many, I thought "Roma" was infinitely superior.

    (Personally, I knew in my heart that "Roma" was done for when they gave it the Oscar for Best Foreign Language Film. I thought that there's no way they were going to give it that award AND Best Picture. I was right.)

    But there's no reason for us to take the choices of Academy voters as some sort of personal affront.



    It wasn't the greatest movie (none / 0) (#63)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Feb 26, 2019 at 08:32:07 PM EST
    Ever made but the over the top attacks made me want to defend it.

    Rotten Tomatoes has a piece listing all the movies that got best picture ranked by the critic/audience ratings.  It's interesting.

    Green Book was in the 60s.  Surprisingly Moonlight was number one.


    THE ENEMY WITHIN (none / 0) (#53)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Feb 25, 2019 at 07:27:08 PM EST
    This has potential (none / 0) (#56)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Feb 26, 2019 at 10:19:32 AM EST
    The review was dead on.  Some predictability and so-so dialog.

    Welcome to network tv.

    But it's worth watching just for Jennifer Carpenter.  For now.


    Alternate Oscars (none / 0) (#54)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Feb 25, 2019 at 08:09:39 PM EST
    From BirthMoviesDeath


    Extreme congratulations to the following films and individuals:

    Alternate Best Picture: Annihilation
    Alternate Best Director: Chris McQuarrie, Mission: Impossible - Fallout
    Alternate Best Original Screenplay: Boots Riley, Sorry To Bother You
    Alternate Best Adapted Screenplay: Alex Garland, Annihilation
    Alternate Best Lead Female Actor: Toni Collette, Hereditary
    Alternate Best Lead Male Actor: Ethan Hawke, First Reformed
    Alternate Best Supporting Female Actor: Tilda Swinton, Suspiria
    Alternate Best Supporting Male Actor: Michael B. Jordan, Black Panther
    Alternate Best Cinematography: Annihilation, Rob Hardy
    Alternate Best Editing: Mission: Impossible - Fallout, Eddie Hamilton
    Alternate Best Production Design: Annihilation
    Alternate Best Costume Design: Suspiria
    Alternate Best Makeup & Hairstyling: Suspiria
    Alternate Best Original Score: Mandy, Johann Johannsson
    Alternate Best Original Song: "Unmade" from Suspiria, Thom Yorke
    Alternate Best Sound Mixing: Annihilation
    Alternate Best Sound Editing: Hereditary
    Alternate Best Visual Effects: Annihilation
    Alternate Best Foreign-Language Feature: Burning
    Alternate Best Documentary: Won't You Be My Neighbor
    Alternate Best Animated Feature: Teen Titans Go! To The Movies

    For those of you keeping track: that's six wins for Annihilation, four for Suspiria, two each for Hereditary and Mission: Impossible - Fallout, and one each for Mandy, First Reformed, Black Panther, Sorry To Bother You, Burning, Won't You Be My Neighbor, and Teen Titans Go! To The Movies. Less spread-around than these things usually are, but hey, Annihilation's a great movie and richly deserving of these awards, symbolic though they may be.

    I only disagree (none / 0) (#55)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Feb 25, 2019 at 09:21:55 PM EST
    With one choice.  The Mr Rogers doc.  I know, it's a failing but I simply can't take Mr Rogers in any amount or context.

    A couple I have not seen but want to like Sorry To Bother You and Burning.

    There are a few you definitely should see if you haven't.  And you probably haven't.  Like Suspriia and Mandy.

    And Annihilation for sure.  

    Even the new Mission Impossible movie is really good.   Although I liked for the "wrong" reasons.  Namely the plot was to nuke the Vatican Jerusalem and Mecca (heh).


    I have to admit, I totally fell for (5.00 / 1) (#57)
    by Peter G on Tue Feb 26, 2019 at 10:52:32 AM EST
    the Mr. Rogers documentary, despite myself. Like everyone else in the theater, I was sobbing.

    Like I said (none / 0) (#58)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Feb 26, 2019 at 10:59:40 AM EST
    A failing

    At lease I know it.


    I couldn't stand Mr. Rogers ... (none / 0) (#62)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Tue Feb 26, 2019 at 07:43:47 PM EST
    ... when I was younger. I was well into adulthood before I finally came to appreciate his message of tolerance, understanding and peace to children. Now, I just see him as one of those rare commodities on this earth, a kind soul, true gentleman and all-around nice guy. He never changed, while I had to grow up.

    Couldn't take him as a kid (none / 0) (#64)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Feb 26, 2019 at 08:34:41 PM EST
    Still can't.  I suppose I'm glad he exists in the abstract.  

    You would not like his "I love everyone, just (none / 0) (#65)
    by Peter G on Tue Feb 26, 2019 at 09:07:52 PM EST
    the way you are" brand of homophobia, as exposed in the documentary.

    Ok (none / 0) (#66)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Feb 26, 2019 at 11:22:43 PM EST
    That makes me want to watch it



    Barney the Dinosaur (none / 0) (#67)
    by jondee on Wed Feb 27, 2019 at 08:33:59 PM EST
    made Mr Rodgers seem edgy, and Mr Moose and Grandfather Clock look like they came from the wrong side of the tracks.

    Couldn't take (none / 0) (#68)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Feb 27, 2019 at 08:44:02 PM EST
    Captain Kangaroo either.  By the time Sesame Street came along we used to watch high and enjoy it.  Probably with no sound and Zeppilin or Fleetwood Mac or Quicksilver.  As I remember.

    At that age (none / 0) (#69)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Feb 27, 2019 at 08:45:31 PM EST
    The really violent Tom and Jerry cartoons were my favorite.  

    As it was it is.


    Look for the part of the doc (or other info (none / 0) (#70)
    by Peter G on Wed Feb 27, 2019 at 09:52:55 PM EST
    I read about him (none / 0) (#71)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Feb 27, 2019 at 09:55:36 PM EST
    Last night.  Don't think I could sit thru it.

    You know (none / 0) (#73)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Feb 28, 2019 at 10:19:09 AM EST
    This is interesting because I have never really been able to articulate my visceral response to Mr Rogers.

    Seriously, who doesn't like Mr Rogers.

    I grew up with smarmy church lady Christian "nice"

    I learned to despise it from a very tender age.

    Isn't that special?


    I was the right age (none / 0) (#72)
    by CST on Thu Feb 28, 2019 at 08:17:17 AM EST
    And grew up with Mr. Rogers.  I thought a lot of the show was boring but I loved the land of make believe and would tune in so I didn't miss it.  Later in college I ended up living in Mr. Rogers actual neighborhood, and while I never met him personally I only ever heard wonderful things about him.

    I haven't seen the documentary and I'm not sure I will,  there's something about childhood memories where I don't want to break the magic.


    The Doc... (none / 0) (#74)
    by ScottW714 on Fri Mar 01, 2019 at 09:03:51 AM EST
    ...won't change anything, it will have you remembering characters you probably forgot and how they came about.  I watched Rogers occasionally and had very fond thoughts of him, they were only made better after the doc and finding out a lot or pretty damn cool stuff about him.

    Plus it was like going back to your elementary school and realizing the halls are tiny, but in this case that the production value was very bare bones.  I remember make believe land being lavish...

    When I was watching it, a friend came over and I asked her if she knew that Rodgers was a pedo, she freaked out, like on the verge of tears.  Then I said I was joking and she got physically mad at me and I felt horrible.  I really misjudged the love people have for him, and I think that love will be deeper if you watch the doc.