Christmas Day Open Thread

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Enjoy the day and your time with your families. Regardless of your religion, Christmas is a special holiday!

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    Another Guatemalan girl has died (5.00 / 1) (#3)
    by MKS on Tue Dec 25, 2018 at 08:41:53 PM EST
    in U.S. Custody.

    ICE is dumping hundreds of migrants without food or shelter at the El Paso Greyhound station yesterday and  the day before, and probably more today.

    Newsweek article.

    Apparently, the government shutdown has caused ICE to dump migrants without warning or even processing them.

    The Newsweek article has a quote form Beto O'Rourke and his recommendation to donate to Annunciation House.  I did that.

    I just saw this (none / 0) (#4)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Dec 25, 2018 at 09:19:08 PM EST
    It seems they intentionally avoided even alerting shelters -

    TEXAS TRIBUNE: "ICE dumps hundreds of migrants with nowhere to go at a bus station on eve of Christmas without warning shelters:

    "Immigrations and Customs Enforcement agents began dropping off the migrants late Sunday at a local bus station without warning local shelters that usually take in large groups after they seek asylum and are released by federal agents. About 200 arrived Sunday, about 200 more arrived Monday and the total number could exceed 800 by Wednesday

    Nice government we have.


    The gran cheeto (5.00 / 2) (#6)
    by MKS on Tue Dec 25, 2018 at 09:35:27 PM EST
    shuts down the government because of too many people crossing the border (putting it charitably), and the result?  

    More unprocessed migrants dumped on the street with no way of keeping track of them.  

    Counter-productive even from their hateful and small point of view.


    Cable news is talking about (none / 0) (#7)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Dec 26, 2018 at 11:16:31 AM EST
    All the "welfare checks" this child got over the couple of days his health was failing.
    Now, we know what that means but Trump was tweeting about the problem with actual coyotes crossing the southern border so how long till he is tweeting to his mouth breathers about all the "welfare checks" being handed out to these invaders.

    I wish they would find another word.  Like health check or something.  This is the world we live in.


    Jakelin Caal Maquin (5.00 / 1) (#5)
    by MKS on Tue Dec 25, 2018 at 09:29:53 PM EST
    died in Lordsburg, New Mexico a couple of weeks ago.  I actually (by coincidence) drove through Lordsburg three or four days later.

    Jakelin was a K'ekchi (Q'eqchi) Mayan from The Alta Verapaz and the northern jungles of Guatemala.

    The K'ekchi Maya are quite stout people.   Historically, they repelled Pedro De Alvarado's attempt to conquer them military.  They were then approached by the Spanish priest De Las Casas through an offer of friendship and peace, and they invited the Spanish into their villages.  The province where the K'ekchi lived was accordingly re-named the Alta Verapaz (the land of true peace.)  And then their leaders were  murdered and their writings burned.

    In 1954, the Dulles brothers had the CIA overthrow the Guatemalan democracy that had pursued land reform, and a series of dictators ensued.  

    Jakelin Caal Maquin shared a venerable last name with Mama Maquin. In 1980, Mama Maquin led a group of K'ekchi Maya on a march to the municipality of Panzos, Alta Verapaz with a list of demands and complaints involving land claims.  The military opened fire on them, killing dozens of women, children and unarmed men.  That massacre fueled the uprising of the K'ekchi.

    In 1982, Reagan boosted Pres. Rios-Monnt, who implemented his infamous "beans or bullets" campaign against the Maya.  He was subsequently convicted of Crimes against Humanity for the genocide he perpetrated with U.S. complicity.

    Anecdotally, the Maya did not talk when tortured.  After guerilla leaders were captured and held, the guerilla safe houses were never hit.

    And, so, Jakelin fell unconscious in Lordsburg, New Mexico.  It is a very, very remote place, primarily known for being the town that Charles Manson reportedly said he would go to if he ever got out of prison.   The Chihuahuan desert surrounding Lordsburg is in my mind starkly beautiful and vast.  The town, however, is an abysmal hell hole.  Shuttered motel after shuttered motel litter the interstate exit.  

    I have often wondered why the U.S. so often inflicts death and suffering on the Maya and people of Guatemala.   One need not love them but why the complete abdication of any humanity?  And, the conclusion I have come to after these many years is that the people of Guatemala suffer because they have no power, and the good people of the U.S. simply do not care.

    You seem to be (none / 0) (#14)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Dec 26, 2018 at 05:45:59 PM EST
    quite knowledgable on the subject of Guatemala as you were the one that alerted me to the fact that Hillay had helped a Guatemelan nun.

    Sr. Dianna Ortiz (none / 0) (#16)
    by MKS on Wed Dec 26, 2018 at 06:29:18 PM EST
    Yes, I have written of that.

    Pretty funny (5.00 / 3) (#13)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Dec 26, 2018 at 02:35:19 PM EST
    Dossier wins again (5.00 / 2) (#25)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Dec 27, 2018 at 02:46:32 PM EST
    A mobile phone traced to President Donald Trump's former lawyer and "fixer" Michael Cohen briefly sent signals ricocheting off cell towers in the Prague area in late summer 2016, at the height of the presidential campaign, leaving an electronic record to support claims that Cohen met secretly there with Russian officials, four people with knowledge of the matter say.

    During the same period of late August or early September, electronic eavesdropping by an Eastern European intelligence agency picked up a conversation among Russians, one of whom remarked that Cohen was in Prague, two people familiar with the incident said.

    The phone and surveillance data, which have not previously been disclosed, lend new credence to a key part of a former British spy's dossier of Kremlin intelligence describing purported coordination between Trump's campaign and Russia's election meddling operation.

    Christopher Steele (5.00 / 3) (#30)
    by Ga6thDem on Thu Dec 27, 2018 at 05:29:38 PM EST
    for the win again. The media is really going to rue the day they tittered about that dossier at cocktail parties but never wrote a word about it and then attacked Buzzfeed for actually publishing it.

    ... of the Steele dossier by Buzzfeed News, and that was the Russian intelligence services' ability to then trace and arrest several of Christopher Steele's alleged sources inside the Kremlin and the Russian military.

    I mean, these people literally risked their lives to talk to Steele, yet the editors at Buzzfeed were so eager to scoop their competitors that they likely never seriously considered the potential consequences of publication to these sources. As it stands, Mother Jones' David Corn had actually scooped Buzzfeed News by several months, but he went to extraordinary lengths to both conceal Steele's identity and not divulge his dossier's actual details.

    At least one of Steele's sources -- Gen. Oleg Erovinkin of the State Security Service (FSB) -- was reported to have been killed as a result of Buzzfeed's cavalier decision to publish the dossier in full. Even Steele himself felt compelled to go underground with his family for a time after publication of his work, fearing retaliation from the Kremlin.

    That said, once that proverbial cat was let out of the bag, at least one-third of Steele's findings have since been publicly verified as correct by the media, including McClatchy's revelations of Trump's attorney Michael Cohen's alleged trip to the Czech Republic. And the overall legitimacy of that intelligence, including allegations that Russia may possess damaging compromat on Trump's personal and professional life, remains a matter of significant public concern.



    Oh no I didn't (none / 0) (#28)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Dec 27, 2018 at 05:22:19 PM EST
    Cohen, a convicted felon, denied ever being in the country.

    Michael Cohen

     I hear #Prague #CzechRepublic is beautiful in the summertime. I wouldn't know as I have never been. #Mueller knows everything!

    Scott Dworkin

    .@MichaelCohen212-Cut the sh!t, Michael. You think it's cute to say you've never been to Prague when it could be a suburb of Prague or on the outskirts. Answer this question, smart guy: Have you ever been in the Czech Republic ever? For any reason? At any time? Ever?

    Michael Cohen


    Sister Wendy Beckett... (5.00 / 2) (#32)
    by desertswine on Fri Dec 28, 2018 at 02:07:52 PM EST
    "I love all those glistening strands of hair, and her pubic hair is so soft and fluffy."

    Sister Wendy Beckett, a Roman Catholic nun who interrupted a cloistered life of prayer in England in 1991 and soared to international stardom with lyrical BBC documentaries that made her one of the most improbable art critics in television history, died on Wednesday in the village of East Harling, England. She was 88.


    I've thought for a long time (5.00 / 1) (#37)
    by jondee on Sat Dec 29, 2018 at 04:29:18 PM EST
    that if we don't have teachers like Sr Wendy, that imaginative part of all us that needs art and stories ends up being colonized by spiritual hucksters and conspiracy theorists and the like.

    Possibly this explains why the U.S is such an epicenter of fundamentalism and other paranoid fantasies: because art is so often poo-pooed as "soft", unnecessary, or downright useless. The con artists and exploiters here want that region of consciousness all to themselves.


    Agreed. (none / 0) (#38)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sat Dec 29, 2018 at 11:34:25 PM EST
    How different the world might have been, had Adolf Hitler been encouraged in his early twenties to pursue a career in art or architecture rather than politics.



    Some of those paintings look.. (none / 0) (#47)
    by desertswine on Sun Dec 30, 2018 at 04:57:31 PM EST
    pretty nice to me.  I liked the one with the moon over the water.   The one with the cathedral was nice too (Vienna? St. Stephen's?)

    They really are (none / 0) (#48)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Dec 30, 2018 at 05:11:35 PM EST
    I like the one that looks The Eagles Nest.

    Odd that the one with a vaguely military theme are the weakest.


    ... as an artist, and a critical eye for structural perspective. But that sort of raw talent needed to be nurtured, and the barriers before him in Vienna -- which include poverty -- simply proved too imposing to overcome. The world would ultimately pay an absolutely dreadful price when he later discovered his parallel talent for demagogy and subsequently channeled his efforts into politics.

    Amazing (5.00 / 1) (#43)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Dec 30, 2018 at 10:41:27 AM EST
    SOPRANOS (5.00 / 1) (#56)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Dec 31, 2018 at 03:44:22 PM EST
    A season a day starting Friday on HBO.

    I love this.  It's one of the only great series I am completely unfamiliar with.  Never saw a single episode.

    I loved (none / 0) (#59)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Dec 31, 2018 at 06:01:43 PM EST
    the storyline. I hated the violence. However I watched it through Netflix so I just fast forwarded through that part.

    Sometimes the violence and cruelty (none / 0) (#62)
    by McBain on Mon Dec 31, 2018 at 07:59:18 PM EST
    was a bit much but it's one of the few shows that stayed consistently good season after season. The dream sequences were always great, especially the one with Annette Benning.

    In other mafia related news, I recently watched all three Godfather films.  Haven't seen them in years so there was a lot I forgot or never knew.  One thing I didn't know was the Bruno Kirby character in the old Sicily scenes of Godfather II was young Clemenza.  


    Just finished "Escape from Dannemora." (none / 0) (#67)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Tue Jan 01, 2019 at 05:04:13 AM EST
    Have to say, I was very impressed by Ben Stiller's latest outing as a director. In fact, everybody involved was very good. That limited series has "multiple Emmy nominations" written all over it.

    It really does (none / 0) (#68)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jan 01, 2019 at 08:04:10 AM EST
    Including for Stiller I hope.  Yes the whole cast was excellent.  Patricia Arquette especially

    They did an amazing job casting.

    check out how much the entire looked like the actual people.

    Also you had a link up about Hitler's art.  check out the art of Richard Matt.

    Multiple very good portraits of Hillary among them.


    'Dannemora' was a very creepy story, ... (none / 0) (#70)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Wed Jan 02, 2019 at 08:18:51 PM EST
    ... probably because none of the main characters who were involved in that escape attempt really had what I would call redeeming personal qualities. Episode 6 really laid it out for us just how awful and self-absorbed these people actually were. Patricia Arquette -- who I think is an attractive woman -- inhabited the role of Tilly to the extent that I barely recognized her, which reminded me of Charlize Theron's transformation into the murderous Eileen for "Monster," and Elizabeth Taylor letting herself go as the vicious Martha in "Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?"

    You gotta love beautiful actresses who aren't afraid to do cheap and trashy. It looks to be a great career move as they leave behind the ingenue phase of their careers, and they start seeking out more character-driven roles. The great Barbara Stanwyck, who you noted the other day, was one of those who were successful in that transition.

    Speaking of actresses doing cheap and trashy, we finally saw John Huston's "The Misfits" in its entirety for the first time the other night at UH-Hilo's theatre, as part of a retrospective on the director's career. Jeez, Marilyn Monroe was really good in that film, more than holding her own in scenes with Clark Gable, Montgomery Clift, Thelma Ritter and Eli Wallach. I don't think the Hollywood studio system as it existed 60 years ago ever really understood just how good an actress she could be, if only they really watched her work. All they ever saw in her was T&A.



    There were no heros but (none / 0) (#71)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jan 03, 2019 at 11:12:36 AM EST
    Stiller really did a job making them human.  Every one.  One of the best performances was Tillies husband.  I forget his name but if you Google him you will see he was every bit as unrecognizable as she was.
    Sweat, he didn't actually do it.  Apparently.  Matt too.  Even as twisted and damaged as he was.  I loved that bit in the last episode talking about when he stole a horse and ran away from a foster home.

    One bit.  I was googling pictures of the actual story and they did an an amazing job of recreating it.  You might not want to but there is a pic of the dead Richard Matt.  I swear it could be a still from the series.


    Merry Old Calendar (5.00 / 1) (#74)
    by Zorba on Mon Jan 07, 2019 at 01:32:13 PM EST
    (Julian Calendar) Christmas to those Orthodox Christians celebrating Christmas today.

    A little Christmas (none / 0) (#1)
    by desertswine on Tue Dec 25, 2018 at 02:44:30 PM EST
    For we need a little music, need a little laughter
    Need a little singing ringing through the rafter
    Yes we need a little snappy happy ever after
    We need a little Christmas now

    Santa Clause gave our family an Alexa Echo (none / 0) (#2)
    by McBain on Tue Dec 25, 2018 at 03:23:45 PM EST
    and a WiFi thermostat.  Anyone have these?  I think the best function of the Echo will be the easy access to music. Haven't got it up and running yet but I like to idea of not having to find a CD or using a phone... I can just tell it what I want to hear.  At least I hope it's that easy.  

    There's already problems with wifi compatibility with the thermostat and our home  network. The installation was supposed to be simple but nothing ever is in my home. It's funny how new technology that's intended to make things easier/better ends up causing a big hassle.  

    Later tonight we're going to check out some nearby holiday light decorations. There are a few neighborhoods near us where people really go all out.

    Merry Christmas  

    I have an Alexa. (none / 0) (#15)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Dec 26, 2018 at 05:47:21 PM EST
    My husband bought it for me when I was visiting family out of town for a week. Honestly, I never use it.

    Starting to get the hang of it (none / 0) (#17)
    by McBain on Wed Dec 26, 2018 at 06:34:06 PM EST
    The sound quality is good for it's size.  There's some free music it can play but if you want specific songs you have to have an account with something like Amazon Music.  We signed up for the Amazon Music free trial so we have instant access to something like 50 million songs.

    So far, we've been playing the classics... Sinatra, The Beatles, Elvis.  Not sure how it figured this out, but when I just told it "play music" it chose The Doors.  I used to be a huge Doors fan.  Did it figure that out from my Beatles selection or did it do some kind of creepy search of my email, social media?

    I finally got the wifi thermostat to work.  I can now control that with voice commands through Alexa or with my phone.  I probably sound really lazy here but I hate sitting down for dinner or to watch a movie and have the super loud furnace kick in when I don't want it to.

    So far, with both devices, I've probably been the phone with customer service 6 or 7 times.    


    We don't own an Alexa because (none / 0) (#34)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Dec 29, 2018 at 09:02:33 AM EST
    They are always recording you

    We don't own a smart TV either

    I don't know what we do though once we need to replace a TV.

    With the job my husband now serves in though and their understanding of the security risks, I don't think anyone he works with has an Alexa up and running.


    You'll like Tracey Ullman's take on 'Alexis.' (5.00 / 2) (#39)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sun Dec 30, 2018 at 01:55:32 AM EST
    Tracy Ullman (5.00 / 2) (#40)
    by fishcamp on Sun Dec 30, 2018 at 07:39:02 AM EST
    Those links to Tracy are great Donald.  Years ago I was lucky enough to film her for several days at the old Aspen Comedy Fest.  She was hilariously funny continually, even between takes.  She just kept up with more funny ideas to film.  It was fun.

    Catch of the Day (5.00 / 1) (#52)
    by KeysDan on Mon Dec 31, 2018 at 11:15:21 AM EST
    Konk News:  A fisherman in the Florida Key of Islamorada netted a bale of cocaine as he returned to the dock at 100 E. Carroll Street  The 40 to 60 pounds of cocaine wholesale price is estimated at between $473,000 and $761,000.  The catch has been turned over to officials and is now in the hands of the US Coast Guard.  

    One of the best holiday things is (none / 0) (#8)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Dec 26, 2018 at 11:57:32 AM EST

    Dexter on SHO
    Game of Thrones on HBO
    American Gods on STARZ sat (I think)
    Usually have a Twilight Zone on SYFY

    Ever watch (none / 0) (#9)
    by MKS on Wed Dec 26, 2018 at 01:10:48 PM EST
    Berlin Station on Epix?

    Yes. (5.00 / 1) (#18)
    by Chuck0 on Wed Dec 26, 2018 at 08:25:59 PM EST
    I like it. Interesting bit of embassy spytrade on display. Plus I've always had an attraction to Ashley Judd since I first saw her in Ruby In Paradise. She was a bonus in season 2 (or is it up to 3?). I subscribe to Sling. We get free EPIX for a wknd every so often to entice us to subscribe. I just binge watch Berlin Station to catch up

    Seen (none / 0) (#19)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Dec 26, 2018 at 08:30:12 PM EST

    She has never been better.


    Bug trailer (none / 0) (#23)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Dec 27, 2018 at 10:21:44 AM EST
    i love this movie

    It's Friedkins best since The Exorcist


    My father worked with (none / 0) (#24)
    by Chuck0 on Thu Dec 27, 2018 at 02:35:49 PM EST
    William Friedkin. It was released in 1987 called Rampage. Alas, my father ended up on the cutting room floor, but he is forever credited in the IMDb.

    Watching (5.00 / 1) (#41)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Dec 30, 2018 at 10:03:47 AM EST

    Barbara Stanwyck is a goddess


    OMG! We watched that, too. (none / 0) (#45)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sun Dec 30, 2018 at 03:43:36 PM EST
    As an aficionado of film noir, I think there are few finer examples of that genre than "Double Indemnity." Personally, I think the secret of its success -- aside from screenwriter Raymond Chandler's tight script -- was director Billy Wilder's willingness to cast stars Fred MacMurray, Barbara Stanwyck and Edward G. Robinson against type.

    Back in 1944, who would've thought until "Double Indemnity" that the often sinister Robinson could so effectively ground a film as its moral compass, or that easy-going MacMurray could be so good at being so bad? And as the scheming Phyllis, wholesome good girl Stanwyck became the archetype femme fatale. (She later credited legendary costume designer Edith Head for providing her the necessary insight into her character's devious motivations: "She dressed me to look cheap.") Each actor rose to the occasion for Wilder accordingly, and delivered a flawless performance.

    In my honest opinion, "Double Indemnity" really deserved the Oscar as 1944's Best Picture, rather than Leo McCarey's saccharine-laden "Going My Way." 74 years later, the first of Wilder's cinematic masterpieces can still cast a mesmerizing spell on its viewers and lure them into its fatal web of duplicity and double-cross, while that Bing Crosby / good Catholic vehicle looks evermore like Hollywood's equivalent of stadium nachos, smothered in melted Velveeta and already looking stale before you even reach your seat for the game's first pitch.



    BTW (none / 0) (#20)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Dec 26, 2018 at 08:40:33 PM EST
    I assume you saw cadet bon spurs was busted

    podiatrist, Dr. Larry Braunstein, died in 2007. But his daughters say their father often told the story of coming to the aid of a young Mr. Trump during the Vietnam War as a favor to his father.

    "What he got was access to Fred Trump," Elysa Braunstein said. "If there was anything wrong in the building, my dad would call and Trump would take care of it immediately. That was the small favor that he got."

    So do I now call him (none / 0) (#21)
    by Chuck0 on Thu Dec 27, 2018 at 07:20:43 AM EST
    "Fake" Bone Spurs? He is, after all, a fake president.

    If I told you what I would call him (none / 0) (#22)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Dec 27, 2018 at 10:18:32 AM EST
    It would be deleted

    Don't have epix (none / 0) (#12)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Dec 26, 2018 at 02:23:57 PM EST
    I just switched from cable to directv.  Didn't have it with cable either.  I think the only source for Epix locally is DISH.

    So I won't be having it.  Maybe some net version?

    I'm liking directv a lot.  It really is a much better service than cable in many ways.

    I kept my cable internet so when it rains so hard I can't get tv at least I will still have net service.


    I need to watch The Good Place (none / 0) (#50)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Dec 31, 2018 at 08:37:37 AM EST
    Finished up Innocent Man on Netflix (none / 0) (#10)
    by McBain on Wed Dec 26, 2018 at 01:49:18 PM EST
    This is a true crime documentary series inspired by John Grisham's non fiction book of the same name.  It's yet another case of false confessions fooling juries into voting guilty. I thought it was well made.  The book is good too.  

    Questions for lawyers...  do juries ever get to see all the footage from a confession tape?  Are prosecutors/investigators supposed to give all the tapes to the defense?

    A kegger at P.J.'s and Squi's? (none / 0) (#11)
    by KeysDan on Wed Dec 26, 2018 at 02:02:44 PM EST
    A New Year's Eve celebration may be in the works: A federal judicial council, spearheaded by the very conservative Chief Judge of the 10th Circuit in Denver, Tim Tymkovich, dismissed 83 complaints lodged against Brett Kavanaugh.

     The complaints ranged from allegations that he lied during judicial confirmation hearings in 2004 and 2006 as well as during his S.C. confirmation hearings, including inappropriate partisan statements showing bias and lack of temperament and his display of disrespect to Democratic members of the Senate Judiciary Committee.

    While the judicial panel noted that the complaints were "serious", it stated that the lower court judges don't have authority to investigate or disciple Kavanaugh now that he is on the Supreme Court, and no longer covered by the misconduct rules.

    Chief Justice Roberts forwarded the complaints  sent to him by DC Circuit Judge Karen LeCraft Henderson of the DC Court,(who was serving in place of Merrick Garland, who recused himself) on Oct 11, 2018, after Kavanaugh had been confirmed by the senate on October 6.

     Judge Henderson indicated that she had screened the complaints and forwarded only those considered worthy of further review.

    A Christmas Poem (none / 0) (#26)
    by Repack Rider on Thu Dec 27, 2018 at 03:14:25 PM EST
    He sees you when you're sleeping
    He knows when you're awake
    He knows if you've been bad or good
    And so does Robert Mueller III

    Seen this? (none / 0) (#27)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Dec 27, 2018 at 03:38:05 PM EST
    I saw (5.00 / 1) (#29)
    by Ga6thDem on Thu Dec 27, 2018 at 05:27:25 PM EST
    that earlier today. Good Lord all I have to say is if it is of Trump please never let it see the light of day.

    A nudie (5.00 / 1) (#31)
    by KeysDan on Fri Dec 28, 2018 at 10:16:45 AM EST
    national security matter?  Blackmail.

    Three days early (none / 0) (#33)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Dec 29, 2018 at 08:04:00 AM EST

    Special Counsel Robert Mueller's office appears to have responded to a foreign company's bid to get the Supreme Court to step into a fight over a grand jury subpoena served on the firm.

    Most details of the case remain under seal at the Supreme Court since the company asked for an emergency stay last week, but an entry in the high court's docket indicates a response was filed Friday, three days ahead of the Monday deadline set by the court. The filing was accompanied by an application to put the filing under seal, the Supreme Court docket says.

    If the Supreme Court decides not to step into the dispute, the details of the fight could remain and the identity of the company and country involved could remain hidden from public view. But if the justices decide to grant some relief to the company or hear the case on the high court's regular docket, some additional details of the battle could surface, since the Supreme Court rarely entertains cases on an entirely secret basis.

    LOL! Then again, if this ham-handed farce ... (none / 0) (#36)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sat Dec 29, 2018 at 04:10:03 PM EST
    ... involving an earnest attempt by a Russian oligarch back in 2014 to bankroll French fascist leader Marine Le Pen's National Front party is indeed the rule rather than the exception, I'd have to ever so grudgingly grant that all those stories regarding the alleged sophistication of Russian intelligence and money laundering operations are perhaps a WEE bit overblown.


    I love this (none / 0) (#42)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Dec 30, 2018 at 10:32:27 AM EST
    Way to go gays (none / 0) (#44)
    by jondee on Sun Dec 30, 2018 at 02:37:30 PM EST
    God was going to go easy with the polar vortex this winter, but not now.

    The ladies doth protest too much, methinks. (none / 0) (#46)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sun Dec 30, 2018 at 04:11:32 PM EST
    To those who would posit that it's yet more evidence of decay in our country's moral foundation, and who would complain that the left has been kicking the religious right in the cojones, I would simply retort, "And it's about damned time."

    It's really too bad that sailor's husband wasn't dressed up as Santa Claus. Then we could've listened to Fox News whine some more about the "War on Christmas."



    Happy New Year to all (none / 0) (#53)
    by Zorba on Mon Dec 31, 2018 at 12:15:44 PM EST
    We are not going out (we never have done so on New Year's Eve) but we have champagne chilling, and a bunch of nice cheeses, charcuterie, and smoked salmon with which to celebrate later.

    Oh, and on a different subject, apropos of nothing, in the Roman Catholic and Greek Orthodox calendars, today is the Feast Day of St. Melania.  Yes, that's right, it's Melania Trump's Name Day.

    Not leaving my house (none / 0) (#55)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Dec 31, 2018 at 03:42:24 PM EST
    Never much for going out on NY eve.  We always called it amateur night.

    But this year almost literally everyone I know has the flu.  My state is one of the 8 "high" states.  So for the next couple of weeks its delivery and drive thru and the running thru the grocery store at 4 am after using a dozen of those wipey things on anything I touch.

    I suck at being sick.


    Amateur night (none / 0) (#57)
    by jondee on Mon Dec 31, 2018 at 04:03:32 PM EST
    that's a very apt description. There was a time in my life when almost every night was New Year's eve.

    I hope all these people on opioids have the good sense not to try mixing it with alcohol, NY's eve or no NY's eve. It's teetering on the abyss to do that.


    Apparently GA (none / 0) (#58)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Dec 31, 2018 at 06:01:03 PM EST
    or least my area of GA is bad. Lots of people around here with the flu some who have gotten both A and B at the same time.

    According to the animated map (none / 0) (#63)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Dec 31, 2018 at 10:49:20 PM EST
    On this page GA is as bad as it gets but all the south is bad.

    Oops (none / 0) (#64)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Dec 31, 2018 at 10:50:03 PM EST
    Go Ducks... (none / 0) (#54)
    by fishcamp on Mon Dec 31, 2018 at 03:10:04 PM EST

    Never thought I'd say this about ... (none / 0) (#66)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Tue Jan 01, 2019 at 04:49:56 AM EST
    ... a college football game, but that Oregon-Michigan St. matchup had to have been the most anemic display on the field I've seen in at least 20 years, on the part of both teams. I can't figure out if the defenses were that good today or the offenses were really that awful. I hereby offer a motion that the Redbox Bowl be renamed the Buzzkill Bowl.



    I started (none / 0) (#60)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Dec 31, 2018 at 06:02:24 PM EST
    watching the Bird Box with Sandra Bullock on Netflix last night. I am not sure what to think.

    One of the things (none / 0) (#61)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Dec 31, 2018 at 07:28:14 PM EST
    I'm looking forward to that have happened on Netflix since I left.

    But I will probably binge through Sopranos first.  Which could take a while.  


    I liked it (none / 0) (#65)
    by Militarytracy on Tue Jan 01, 2019 at 04:14:58 AM EST
    But it does seem to be one of those films that have a big opinion divide.

    My daughter thought it was great.


    I finished (none / 0) (#69)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Jan 01, 2019 at 09:06:45 PM EST
    it last night. It's not really a happy ending I guess. Or maybe it's a happy ending if you consider the fact that that is probably the best it is going to be for them. Still never understood what was terrorizing them? Demons or something?

    Fox News (none / 0) (#72)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Jan 04, 2019 at 07:35:14 PM EST
    This made me laugh (none / 0) (#73)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jan 04, 2019 at 08:11:18 PM EST

    There is something flying around the skies that makes anyone who sees it kill themselves graphically, but very smartly, Bird Box never actually shows the audience the creatures; after all, what you imagine is oftentimes scarier than what you see.

    There was a time when one of the producers was like, `No, you have to see something at some point'

    "It was snake-like, and I was like, `I don't want to see it when it first happens. Just bring it into the room. We'll shoot the scene.' I turn and he's like this [growling at me.] It's making me laugh. It was just a long fat baby."

    Director Susanne Bier added, "It so easily becomes funny. We actually shot that and spent a lot of energy on, but every time I saw it, I was like this is not going to be tense. It's just going to be funny. At first, Sandy was like, `I don't want to see it' because she thought it was scary. Then it was like, `Don't show it to me because [I'll laugh].' Every time I did it, I was like, `Sh!t, that's a different film.'"

    "I'm so sorry you had to shoot that," Heisserer said.

    SITE VIOLATOR (none / 0) (#84)
    by jmacWA on Tue Mar 10, 2020 at 08:12:15 AM EST
    This old post is really popular

    thanks, I'm zapping them (none / 0) (#85)
    by Jeralyn on Thu Mar 12, 2020 at 05:06:49 AM EST