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New Wapo-ABC Poll Expands Hillary's Lead Over Trump

By Jeralyn, Section Elections 2016
Posted on Sun Aug 07, 2016 at 08:44:00 AM EST
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Hillary is increasing her lead over Donald Trump, according to a new poll.

Hillary Clinton has emerged from the two major party conventions and their aftermath with an eight-point lead over Donald Trump, aided by a consolidation of support among Democrats and a failure so far by Republicans to rally equally behind their nominee, according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll.

Clinton and her running mate, Sen. Tim Kaine (Va.), now lead Trump and his running mate, Gov. Mike Pence (Ind.), by 50 percent to 42 percent among registered voters, double the four-point advantage the Democrats held on the eve of the Republican convention in mid-July. Among likely voters, the Democratic nominee leads by 51 percent to 44 percent.

Here is the poll.

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    Couple of good things there (5.00 / 2) (#1)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Aug 07, 2016 at 08:17:14 AM EST
    50%.  That's a good thing,

    Also if you look at the internals of that poll they are pretty stunning.  She is pretty much killing in every single one from trust to temperament and even the economy and this stood out-

    Q: Who do you think would do more to make the country safer and more secure
    H 51 T 42

    5 polls released. Trump 0-4-1! Sad! (5.00 / 1) (#4)
    by Molly Bloom on Sun Aug 07, 2016 at 04:41:11 PM EST


    Quote from (5.00 / 4) (#5)
    by Nemi on Sun Aug 07, 2016 at 05:12:31 PM EST
    a Hillary supporter on the campaign trail, makes for a perfect bumper sticker:

    It takes a village,
    not a village idiot.
    this isnt how it's done! (5.00 / 1) (#7)
    by linea on Mon Aug 08, 2016 at 01:23:56 AM EST
    you cant use a hillary v trump national poll. you need to go to 538 where they do the wonky number-crunching for the electoral votes. it's seriously a lock for hillary. trump would need to flip florida, iowa, ohio, and north carolina. not gonna happen. maybe he can flip north carolina but that alone doesnt really get him any closer to winning. the numbers arent close when you do the wonky electoral thing. trump cant win.

    that wouldn't be good for business (5.00 / 2) (#15)
    by pitachips on Mon Aug 08, 2016 at 11:08:22 AM EST
    It is in everyone's best interest to make this appear to be closer then it really is:

    1. right wing blogs/media WANT Hillary to win as it will ensure future growth (nothing generates more right wing clicks then the Clintons)

    2. traditional media's ad revenue has skyrocketed

    3. political consultants on both sides are making money hand over fist

    4. liberal media outlets don't want to depress turnout - they also need to keep supporters sufficiently worried to keep glued to their monitors/TV

    I know some will disagree but I honestly can see Hillary reaching 380 EVs and winning the popular vote by 8-10 pts. I think Obama is probably personally offended at the notion of Trump being president - you're going to see him going full bore until election day.

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    Meanwhile (5.00 / 3) (#8)
    by Nemi on Mon Aug 08, 2016 at 06:55:30 AM EST
    NYT continues doing its very best trying to prevent Hillary Clinton's lead from growing any further. In yet another hit piece Clinton's Fibs[!] vs. Trump's Huge Lies they seem to advocate for the 'choice between the plague and cholera'-view. Being no doubt aware that the more they repeat a lie, the more likely it is to be perceived as the truth, the author makes sure to mention a good deal of the smears, innuendo, falsehoods made up by Hillary Clinton's adversaries in their attempt to paint her as a lying liar:

    1) ... persistent narrative ... Hillary Clinton is a slippery, compulsive liar ...
     2) PolitiFact had found 27 percent of Clinton's statements that it had looked into were mostly false or worse ...
     3) 2 percent of Clinton's statements it had reviewed were egregious "pants on fire" lies ...
     4) WaPo Fact-Checker has awarded its worst ranking, Four Pinocchios, to 16 percent of Clinton's statements that it checked ...
     5) Trump voters ... often argue that Clinton is an inveterate liar and crook ...
     6) Critics also claim that Clinton lied to the families of the four Americans killed in Benghazi ...
     7) ... her disingenuous explanation of flip-flopping on the Asian trade agreement.
     8) Her accounts of her use of private email servers have been consistently false or misleading ...
     9) ... astonishingly, she continues to mislead by claiming that the F.B.I. director, James Comey, judged her answers truthful (he didn't).

    After which (there actually are a few more examples!) the author has the gall to end his (s)hit piece with this:

    Honestly, there is no comparison.

    I know, right! Yet, that's exactly what you just did! -- Made a comparison!

    Factchecking the 'fact-checkers': (none / 0) (#9)
    by Nemi on Mon Aug 08, 2016 at 07:18:31 AM EST
    "Republicans fashioned the narrative into a talking point that even pro-Hillary media yappers didn't bother to refute. The "fact-checkers" have spoken. [...]

    All of the "Big Three" fact-checkers acknowledged the substance of the exchange to some degree, but either downplayed or outright lied about it. [...]

    On Friday afternoon, Hillary addressed the "controversy," and given the week's political currents, was wise not to make a federal case over it, but the media should hold these fact-checkers to a higher standard."



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    Conversation independent candidate (5.00 / 1) (#10)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Aug 08, 2016 at 08:37:43 AM EST
    Just mentioned this on the open.  Suddenly it's everywhere

    SCARBOROUGH - CONSERVATIVE INDEPENDENT CANDIDATE TO ANNOUNCE FOR THE PRESIDENCY

    i heard (none / 0) (#11)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Aug 08, 2016 at 09:18:57 AM EST
    about this. Not sure what he does though. Apparently he's a Mormon and it's about Utah and out west. Kind of short notice though for him to do much of anything. My guess would be it is about down tickets in places in where there are a large Mormon population.

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    Sounds more like (5.00 / 1) (#12)
    by CoralGables on Mon Aug 08, 2016 at 09:23:17 AM EST
    Someone trying to get a gig at Fox news in the future

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    Scarborough said (5.00 / 1) (#13)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Aug 08, 2016 at 10:15:25 AM EST
    It was about making sure Trump loses.  It could certainly help do that.

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    Also (none / 0) (#14)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Aug 08, 2016 at 10:46:32 AM EST
    I can imagine it might in some cases help, the republicans, with the ticket splitting problem.

    The problem being most people don't split the ticket.

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    If he takes Utah (none / 0) (#27)
    by TrevorBolder on Mon Aug 08, 2016 at 06:32:48 PM EST
    Off the table (he most likely goal) , that should seal the deal

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    Delightful polling (5.00 / 1) (#16)
    by KeysDan on Mon Aug 08, 2016 at 12:16:13 PM EST
    results and encouraging to observe that, at least, not all American citizens are ready to entrust themselves to the care of Nurse Ratchet.

    Of course, we know that polls are a snapshot of the moment, and always carry the ...if the election were held today..caveat.  And, while the spread may narrow by November, owing, in no small part to the media horse racers, Trump is likely to have inflicted upon himself irreversible damage.

     Not necessarily the well earned damage related to his shallow or sketchy policies or his cruelty, bigotry and misogyny (his "refreshing telling as it is,") masquerading as opposition to political correctness, but to the growing perception that Trump is unstable, maybe even unhinged.  Certainly, erratic and scary as manifest by his fabulist human core.    

    IN keeping with my pledge (none / 0) (#17)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Aug 08, 2016 at 12:52:05 PM EST
    To report on tha All Due Respect boys, Mark Halperin says polls are a snapshot.

    These are a snapshot of a severed arm.

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    The polls show that 1 out of 3 Trump voters ... (5.00 / 1) (#28)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Mon Aug 08, 2016 at 07:19:27 PM EST
    ... are just as fckn ignorant and stupid as the other two.

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    In accord with my part of (none / 0) (#18)
    by KeysDan on Mon Aug 08, 2016 at 01:04:40 PM EST
    the bargain, Maureen Dowd was awful, despite her topic being Terrible Trump.  How hard is it to mimic Trump--short sentences, if sentences at all, lots of repetition, small words, all punctuated with believe me's, and, something like: sad.

    MoDo tries her hand at satirizing Trump in a dream-like story of his being elected president and reminiscing about the election.  Then, of course, the orderlies come in from Bellevue and take him away.  All told with big words and complete sentences.  The only decent feature was its unusual absence of Hillary.  So, there was that, but still not redeeming.

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    The key to understanding MoDo is margaritas. (