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Thursday Night Open Thread

If you aren't into tonight's Democratic Debate or the Republican Gala, here's an open thread to discuss other topics. As for me, I'm pretty much focused on what I'm now calling "alternative TV watching" and ISIS news.

For alternative TV watching, Viceland is replaying six episodes of F*ck That's Delicious, with NY chef turned rapper, Action Bronson and crew. You can watch online or on cable. I think the episodes called Culinary Athleticism (filmed in New York) and "The Showdown in Lamb Alley" (filmed in Morocco, trailer below)are the best.

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And while I wasn't crazy about the host of Viceland's series States of Undress in the first episode about Fashion Week in Pakistan , the most recent episode on Venezuelan beauty queens was very good. Host Haily Gates has grown on me. I actually like watching her now. [More...]

Also good: the first episode of Noisy, which examines the huge electronic dance movement industry in Las Vegas. Next up for me: the Viceland series Huang's World.

Even the commercials on Viceland are different -- they seem more like a show segment than an ad. Sometimes more than half runs before I figure out if it's an ad, a show segment or a promo for a show. Very creative. Here's a list of all their shows, with many free episodes available.

This is an open thread, all topics other than tonight's debate and Republican gala, welcome. (There are separate threads up for those events.)

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    "Change always happens from (5.00 / 2) (#35)
    by ExPatObserver on Fri Apr 15, 2016 at 10:06:58 PM EST
    the top down".
    Really?? I don't think history supports that contention. Even revolutions are organized by elites.

    Seeing comments on line, tweets etc (5.00 / 4) (#49)
    by ruffian on Sat Apr 16, 2016 at 12:51:05 PM EST
    From Bernie supporters who seem to think it is defiant to say they are not going away, they are building a movement for future elections, etc. Well YAY! That is what most of us want. I am willing to bet that the next candidate from someplace to the left of HRC will be a much better qualified candidate then Sanders. The current Sanders people won't want to admit it, but they will see what we are saying about the right message being carried in a very flawed vessel. Looking forward to 2020. Looking forward to anything that gets this election over.

    Yes (5.00 / 1) (#52)
    by Ga6thDem on Sat Apr 16, 2016 at 01:09:23 PM EST
    that is a good thing-the movement. Hopefully they will have better judgment with candidates as they get older. One of my biggest annoyances has been their inability to see the log in their own eyes. Hopefully they will also realize that no matter who is president unless you 1. start to change people's minds and 2. work on down ticket races it's not going to matter who the candidate is.

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    Coral.Gables (5.00 / 1) (#58)
    by jbindc on Sat Apr 16, 2016 at 04:11:12 PM EST
    Waving to you as I ride past your fair city.  Just came back from a day out at Shark Valley in the Everglades, headed back to base camp at "the Beach".

    It's beautiful at the beach right now. (none / 0) (#62)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Apr 16, 2016 at 05:50:13 PM EST
    We just left. Glorious weather

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    Very pleasant on W. 51st too. (none / 0) (#65)
    by oculus on Sat Apr 16, 2016 at 06:07:20 PM EST
    Blowing my high!!! (none / 0) (#66)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Apr 16, 2016 at 06:12:52 PM EST
    Will you see Hamilton?

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    I'm not elite like Bernie and Jane! (5.00 / 1) (#80)
    by oculus on Sat Apr 16, 2016 at 11:32:11 PM EST
    Tonight: The Crucible. Grim.

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    Crucible (5.00 / 1) (#85)
    by TrevorBolder on Sun Apr 17, 2016 at 06:09:23 AM EST
    Makes me smile.
    We read the play aloud in high school,
    For the life of me I cannot remember what part I played,
    But I do remember my friends, he played Giles Corey,
    Perhaps it was the line I remember most,
    Giles Corey:  "More Rocks"

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    Arthur Miller wrote it as an allegory for right-wing politics in our country, and it still holds up today. I've never seen it onstage, although I've long wanted to.

    I would only cautiously recommend to anyone the somewhat pedestrian 1996 movie version, which contains a surprisingly flat Daniel Day-Lewis as John Proctor, the story's moral center, who looks as though he's just phoning it in. He's actually overshadowed by the strong supporting performances of Joan Allen, Rob Campbell and the late, great Paul Scofield.

    Aloha.

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    Ben Whishaw played John Proctor. (none / 0) (#96)
    by oculus on Sun Apr 17, 2016 at 10:13:33 AM EST
    Terrific cast.  Director is Ben Brantley's new fave.

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    Turning green here...I love Whishaw (none / 0) (#104)
    by ruffian on Sun Apr 17, 2016 at 06:22:31 PM EST
    Did you have good seats? You usually do!

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    I was in the front row way far left. (5.00 / 1) (#107)
    by oculus on Sun Apr 17, 2016 at 08:30:09 PM EST
    Philip Glass' music competed w/the actors. And a couple crucial scenes took place center right.

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    "Pressed to death" (none / 0) (#126)
    by Mr Natural on Tue Apr 19, 2016 at 08:29:09 PM EST
    Salem's small memorial is a set of stone benches inset into an enclosing rectangular stone wall.  Each bench is inscribed with a name, a manner, and a date of death.  Each bench was subscribed by a life, interrupted.

    In this small place you can feel yourself swept back hundreds of years, reminded if you can be, of the lesson within these walls.  It is not that people so willingly visited these horrors upon their neighbors.  It is that they did so little to stop it.

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    I watch those genealogy shows (5.00 / 2) (#127)
    by ruffian on Wed Apr 20, 2016 at 04:40:44 AM EST
    when they come on - it is my version of HGTV addiction. Last week the subject was a young actor I did not recognize whose ancestors were traced back to one of the male victims of the trials, and he visited that memorial and sat on the stone bench that commemorates his ancestor. It is a very beautiful memorial.

    One of my other recent obsessions is podcasts, documentaries, books, etc. about wrongful convictions. The lessons of Salem have not been learned. So many people are still put away and even executed on testimony given by storytellers with various motivations, from fantasy to fear to malice. It's heart wrenching.

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    Nhave you read Stacey Schiff's (none / 0) (#128)
    by oculus on Tue Apr 26, 2016 at 08:17:51 PM EST
    recent book about the Salem witch trials?

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    I love my husband (none / 0) (#67)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Apr 16, 2016 at 06:14:56 PM EST
    He just told me I will be with you the next time you go. He said,"Believe me, I know you need to go, it's on my radar."

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    Great. (none / 0) (#79)
    by oculus on Sat Apr 16, 2016 at 11:30:59 PM EST
    Confirmation (5.00 / 1) (#72)
    by ruffian on Sat Apr 16, 2016 at 08:04:59 PM EST
    Hard to watch and remember. Arlen Specter. Ugh.

    'Martha' from The Americans playing Mrs Thomas. She has the perfect slightly horrified face.

    We debated watching it (5.00 / 2) (#73)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Apr 16, 2016 at 08:24:30 PM EST
    But I recorded it. My husband said he didn't want to watch it, I said it's fine to not watch it tonight, we've had a lot on our plate recently, but we need to watch it. It isn't done. As was brought up on Maher, Joe Biden has never apologized to Anita Hill. He owes her that, and he owes that to all the other women in this country. I realize he'd just like to black it all out, but so long as those who attacked her, and in truth set her up, just block it out/black it out, it can easily be done to someone else again at a later date. Apologize Joe, don't go to your grave carrying that millstone.

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    Maybe he apologized by not running for (5.00 / 1) (#74)
    by ruffian on Sat Apr 16, 2016 at 08:31:35 PM EST
    President. All I can think of watching this disgusting display by all of them is that we need so many more women in office, at every level.

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    Hey, good trailers for the film of (5.00 / 1) (#75)
    by ruffian on Sat Apr 16, 2016 at 08:51:26 PM EST
    'All The Way'. Looks fantastic. And we saw it first!

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    I bet oculus gets hands (none / 0) (#77)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Apr 16, 2016 at 09:22:46 PM EST
    On a ticket to Hamilton.

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    Maybe if she wanted to pay enough (5.00 / 1) (#84)
    by ruffian on Sun Apr 17, 2016 at 05:57:35 AM EST
    If I had it, I would pay it1

    Just thinking bout it makes me want to play the soundtrack again. It is that infectious. Have you heard it yet? All of the soundtrack is on YouTube. I think Josh would love it!

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    Thank you Ruff! (none / 0) (#90)
    by Militarytracy on Sun Apr 17, 2016 at 08:26:10 AM EST
    I watched it (3.00 / 2) (#94)
    by sallywally on Sun Apr 17, 2016 at 09:56:39 AM EST
    and will watch again because I couldn't stand to watch it closely. I was one of those who called in outrage that they were going to let it pass -- one of so many calls that forced the hearings.

    I'll  never forget Biden in those hearings, but also Specter and Alan Simpson...whom they used to call a "moderate" and who was always a major a$$h@/e. And how by choosing this particular Black man they put the Black community and the Democrats in an apparent no-win situation. I remember commentary by Elizabeth Drew. And the fact that they passed Thomas.

    Watching also emphasized the courage it took for Anita Hill to do this -- and the effect it had in bringing women to positions of importance at the national level and beyond, after seeming like a loss. And of course Barack Obama, the antithesis of Clarence Thomas -- and, at long, long last, Hillary Clinton!

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    Specter was the one I found most odious at the (none / 0) (#105)
    by ruffian on Sun Apr 17, 2016 at 06:31:45 PM EST
    time. He had that prosecutorial zeal. The actor did not do him justice - he probably thought he would be overacting if he did an accurate portrayal.

    I felt the same way - through most of it I could only pay half attention, like letting it sink in would be too hard to take. I will watch it again too.

    I thought Washington got across that mixture of vulnerability and strength  very well -she is so tiny in that huge room, and no one on her side until her family arrived. I was glad they brought out that Hill did make a difference to countless women that came after her - women like me that work in mostly male professions and can clearly mark the difference between before and after Anita Hill.

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    Teddy Kennedy was no prize during (5.00 / 2) (#106)
    by caseyOR on Sun Apr 17, 2016 at 06:56:03 PM EST
    the Thomas hearings. He just sat there like a lump giving Anita Hill no support whatsoever. None. Not a single member of that committee acted with any integrity.

    And don't get me started on Alan Simpson.In his own way, he was just as disgusting as Specter.

    An altogether shameful performance by the Senate Judiciary Committee.

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    I know I'm not adding anything new here, (5.00 / 3) (#109)
    by NYShooter on Mon Apr 18, 2016 at 01:16:34 AM EST
    but, I'll say it anyway. That Anita Hill episode was, IMO, one of the lowest points, in a relatively small string of low points, that made me embarrassed to say, "I'm an American."

    During the brief 200+ years of America's existence there have been only a few critical moments of life altering events. The Revolutionary War......will we be a self-governing Republic, or a vassal State? The Civil War.....Are all men truly born equal? And, of course, the 2nd World War.....will we remain a democracy, or succumb to Fascism? There are others, of course, and each of us have differing opinions as to their rank of importance, but, put me down as counting the Anita Hill hearings as, certainly, one of the top ten, "worst moments."

    The stage couldn't have been set any better. On one side was an anonymous, nondescript, educated,  woman, armed with but one feature... truth. Aligned against her was a collection of the most powerful (white) men, hacks all, that one could imagine. And, they had but one goal for these hearings: project an image of high-minded seriousness, while going about the business of gutting the illusion that we're a nation of laws, and not men.

    And, the "winner" of that sad spectacle, the demented, anger-filled, mediocrity, Clarence Thomas, raised his middle finger to America that day, and has kept it raised ever since. What a sad, sad day; the nausea that just won't go away.    

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    Anita Hill was many things (5.00 / 1) (#113)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Apr 18, 2016 at 12:11:14 PM EST
    That the backlash against women having rights hated. She was single, self supporting, well educated, and she dared to do this while being black. I was a teen, but watched the hearings with intensity. Things I was told by some were changing for women. What they did to Anita Hill let me know we were all still in plenty of danger.

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    Rience Priebus endorses Sanders (5.00 / 1) (#83)
    by ExPatObserver on Sun Apr 17, 2016 at 03:09:00 AM EST
    He says that Clinton would be an easier opponent for the Republicans. We should heed the words of the RNC chairman.

    Certainly he has my best interests (5.00 / 3) (#91)
    by Militarytracy on Sun Apr 17, 2016 at 08:32:12 AM EST
    At heart

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    By grace and good luck I've been spared (5.00 / 2) (#99)
    by scribe on Sun Apr 17, 2016 at 11:34:07 AM EST
    the last several weeks of Trump's antics, Hillary v. Bernie and all the rest.

    I've been working on a project in Germany for the last month.  This is 7 days a week stuff, but I'm enjoying it immensely. I don't have to deal with American cable news, for starters.

    Tell your kids:  learn a foreign language well.  A hard one.  It'll turn itself into opportunities sooner or later.

    From (5.00 / 2) (#111)
    by Nemi on Mon Apr 18, 2016 at 06:50:10 AM EST
    Bob Somerby in his steady, admirable, sadly lonely, calling the media out, on the subject of why Hillary Clinton is reluctant to release transcripts of her speeches:

    Some pointless phrase would be yanked out of context and transformed into the latest distraction, entertainment and deeply concerning scandal. The fact that we liberals still don't understand this point helps prove a blindingly obvious fact:

    Our tribe is largely ineducable.

    [...]

    Would something like that happen? Liberals, please! Did you hear that Candidate Clinton made a remark on one occasion, in 1996, using a term which was in widespread use by many players at that point in time? Did you hear that she made that one remark, on that one occasion, twenty years ago? On exactly one occasion?

    That's our latest exciting scandal! That's the way we humans now "reason" within our deeply unimpressive failing political culture.

    We're death-defyingly silly and dumb. We just aren't serious people. Our major candidates all know this, and conduct themselves accordingly.



    From our "Gray Lady Down" file: (5.00 / 1) (#114)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Mon Apr 18, 2016 at 04:11:48 PM EST
    Having earlier declared Hillary Clinton the likely suspect in the death of feminism by comparing her to "a teenaged girl trying to protect her virginity," professional Clinton scold Maureen Dowd announced today that she doesn't like Mrs. Clinton because -- well, just because, that's why!

    If anyone at the New York Times is wondering why its reputation has been foundering of late, he or she need only refer to the paper's vast archive of our dear MoDo's vituperative yet ultimately baseless attacks upon the Clintons, in which her personal animus has been repeatedly mistaken for political analysis by her editors and publisher.

    But then, one mustn't expect anything otherwise from a woman who's excoriated the Clintons over their acceptance of lucrative speaking fees, yet appears brazenly secure in her own hypocrisy by commanding $30,000 per each of the dozen or so speaking engagements that she herself accepts annually.

    Aloha.

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    She's the worst. Truly. (5.00 / 1) (#117)
    by ruffian on Mon Apr 18, 2016 at 08:24:45 PM EST
    So (none / 0) (#119)
    by Nemi on Tue Apr 19, 2016 at 08:01:21 AM EST
    Hillary Clinton was a guest on the radioshow The Breakfast Club. A fun, charming, laid back all way round interview, with some very straightforward hosts. They talked for half an hour about a lot of different things and touched briefly on the predator-remark.

    And how did the media then chose to reference that interview? Well of course as "Hillary Confronted with 'Super Predator' term".

    DifferentDaySameBS.

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    LOL, what did you expect? (none / 0) (#123)
    by NYShooter on Tue Apr 19, 2016 at 01:16:48 PM EST
    Regardless of which candidate, or Party, you prefer the one irrefutable fact is that today's Media is the enemy of all Americans.

    Ever since Reagan convinced a foolish country that money trumps democracy we have been on this psychotic race to the bottom. The minute they discovered that Donald Trump's racism, xenophobia, and sadism produced an insatiable viewer demand for more, they rewarded his sickness with 2 billion dollars worth of free advertising.

    Incredible, isn't it? You know we've lost the country when the last place you'd go to find out what's going on in the country is to turn on the "news."

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    Sadly, not expecting much :( (none / 0) (#125)
    by Nemi on Tue Apr 19, 2016 at 02:34:30 PM EST
    But that shan't keep me from keeping on complaining, harumpf! Not that it changes much though, except for me letting off steam occasionally.

    And, sorry to say, it's not only the US main stream media that lets the people readers/viewers/listeners down, it seems to be a 'global disease'. Just one case in point: The totally over the top coverage of Donald Trump ... more or less world wide.

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    Massive flooding in Houston. (5.00 / 3) (#122)
    by caseyOR on Tue Apr 19, 2016 at 10:56:15 AM EST
    So far five deaths reported, thousands without power, thousands of homes under water. Approximately 20 inches of rain in 24 hours, and it is still raining.

    TL commenter Scott lives in Houston. I hope he is okay. If you see this, Scott, please let us know how you are doing.

    Casey, I can always count on you (none / 0) (#124)
    by vml68 on Tue Apr 19, 2016 at 01:19:30 PM EST
    to be worrying about any and all TLers. After Hurricane Sandy when I was finally able to read TL, your concern for my well being was the sweetest thing. It brought tears to my eyes and I am not a very emotional woman!
    I've been thinking about Scott, too. Hope he is doing ok.

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    A big case (none / 0) (#1)
    by CST on Fri Apr 15, 2016 at 09:26:00 AM EST
    On the student loan front.  Word of advice - don't read the comments.

    "In a major victory for a Duxbury father, a federal appeals court has urged a bankruptcy judge to consider a settlement that would allow the man to erase more than $246,000 he still owes on student loans he borrowed to send his three children to college."

    "A bankruptcy judge and district court judge ruled that Murphy failed to prove repaying the loans was an undue hardship, as required under the bankruptcy law.

    But, on Tuesday, four months after the US First Court of Appeals heard oral arguments in the case and urged the parties to try to settle, the company signed an agreement acknowledging that Murphy's debt should be forgiven because he has proven that repaying it would pose an undue hardship."

    Student loans are remarkably difficult to discharge in bankruptcy.  Obviously people should repay loans, but there is a reason that we have bankruptcy courts.  Lenders need to do their due diligence as well.

    Due diligence (none / 0) (#2)
    by Abdul Abulbul Amir on Fri Apr 15, 2016 at 09:47:15 AM EST
    Due diligence is also known as discriminatory lending.

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    discriminatory lending (none / 0) (#4)
    by CST on Fri Apr 15, 2016 at 10:01:47 AM EST
    is discriminatory lending.

    Not that it matters, but the person in this case is a white male.

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    Due diligence (1.50 / 2) (#11)
    by Abdul Abulbul Amir on Fri Apr 15, 2016 at 01:28:23 PM EST
    Due diligence results in discriminatory lending. Whenever you choose to lend to some and not others, you are discriminating.

    recognize a distinction; differentiate.
    "babies can discriminate between different facial expressions of emotion"
    synonyms:    differentiate, distinguish, draw a distinction, tell the difference, tell apart



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    discriminatory lending (5.00 / 4) (#12)
    by CST on Fri Apr 15, 2016 at 01:35:20 PM EST
    is not about due diligence, it's an actual law that restricts the "factors" that you can use to determine eligibility, including race, gender, religion, etc...

    Being unemployed while taking out a $200,000+ loan, isn't one of the things they are restricted from using.

    But nice red herring.

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    CST, you're right, of course, but, (none / 0) (#57)
    by NYShooter on Sat Apr 16, 2016 at 03:13:34 PM EST
    naturally, the hangup is in how the term, "discriminatory," is being used. You've been around long enough to spot the manner by which The Right uses phrases that sound perfectly reasonable & benign, but, somehow, end up meaning the exact opposite of what everyone thinks they're agreeing to.

    Let's see:

    "CST," will you help me pick some strawberries later on, I've heard that experienced people pick them by smell."

    "Sure, Shooter," I've got a very discriminating nose."

    "Jeebus, CST, what are you, a racist?"

    lol, I think we've got the makings of Hollywood's next block-buster:

    Watch as Steven Spielberg brings the world to possible Armageddon,

    "Will Evil finally win out over Good?"

    will today be the day that the forces of

    "Dueling, Discriminatory, Out of Context, Disingenuous, Juxtapositions<"

    Finally win?????  

    Stay tuned.....

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    Doctor Who (none / 0) (#3)
    by ExPatObserver on Fri Apr 15, 2016 at 09:57:47 AM EST
    No episodes now, but maybe I can stir up some real debate:)
    I am definitely on the side of the Capaldi haters.
    I can't stand his fanboy-influenced, flippant, over-acted portrayal of Doctor Who; also, I think Moffat's scripts wouldn't even be worth using as toilet paper.
    Well, everybody has their preferences, and I imagine I will like a future Doctor Who better.
    What I really resent is that I find it impossible to enjoy ANY Doctor Who episodes anymore. What Capaldi has done is to make the whole 50 years of Doctor Who TV seem like a stupid joke.
    Admittedly, they were never very serious, but by a thin thread, the series held onto a conceit, a conceit which has been popped---and for me, popped for good.

    I have tried so hard (5.00 / 1) (#5)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Apr 15, 2016 at 10:31:08 AM EST
    To like Dr Who.  I really have. I think I've seen episodes of every different Dr.

    I have friends who are obsessed.  I myself am SciFi obsessed in almost all respects.  I can't exactly put my finger on why.  But I just don't get it.

    This is not a criticism of fandom or your comment.  It's more of a lament.

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    Me too (none / 0) (#7)
    by Steve13209 on Fri Apr 15, 2016 at 11:00:52 AM EST
    My brother is constantly raving about it, and I just can't get into it.

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    I think it's the bad guys (none / 0) (#14)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Apr 15, 2016 at 02:05:22 PM EST
    Who look like municipal trash cans

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    i hate the old episodes (none / 0) (#34)
    by linea on Fri Apr 15, 2016 at 09:14:22 PM EST
    the reboot with the younger guy and the story arc about the little girl from scotland was kinda cute and quirky and funny. the new season with the very old guy (with a rockstar electric guitar trying hard to be clever by half) is unwatchable.

    i cancelled bbc-america. i loved the psycho-killer ukranian in orphan black but the story line seemed to be losing it's way and meandering amlessly.  i did like the sherlock reboot and enjoyed the alternate-history Practical Magicians in england. maybe i'll pay for that channel again when those two come back on but not dr who.

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    There's only one Dr Who; (5.00 / 1) (#20)
    by Mr Natural on Fri Apr 15, 2016 at 04:03:28 PM EST
    His name is Tom Baker.  The others were pale imitations.

    Your review reminds me of the fake James Bond played by Roger Moore.  I don't go to a movie to watch smirking and irony directed at the fourth wall.

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    Agree (5.00 / 2) (#22)
    by ragebot on Fri Apr 15, 2016 at 05:06:50 PM EST
    With going into too much detail I will admit to having two scarf and am looking to finish five others made to these specs.

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    Baker was great (5.00 / 1) (#26)
    by ExPatObserver on Fri Apr 15, 2016 at 06:04:47 PM EST
    "Doctor, but where are the Logopolians?"
    "Actually, you're standing on them. In the 10 million years since they and all their grand ideas died out, they turned to sand"

    [inaccurately from memory, but that was a great moment]

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    I've especially wanted to watch (none / 0) (#32)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Apr 15, 2016 at 06:30:45 PM EST
    Now the it has Aria Stark as a regular.  

    Sigh

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    My obsessed friends (none / 0) (#21)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Apr 15, 2016 at 04:39:02 PM EST
    Agree with you.  FWIW.  I just asked on FB.

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    The trash can aliens, the "Daleks" (none / 0) (#23)
    by Mr Natural on Fri Apr 15, 2016 at 05:17:29 PM EST
    may be the worst in alien movie history.  They could not move around on anything but a dead flat studio floor or pieces of plywood.   BBC had an infra-budget, so, they're forgiven.

    R2D2 wasn't too hot in that respect either.  The new one, BB-8, was better.

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    I think that honor (5.00 / 2) (#27)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Apr 15, 2016 at 06:13:22 PM EST
    Probably still goes to the alien beach ball in John Carpenters 1974 classic  DARK STAR.

    But the trash cans are in the top 5 for sure.

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    That was the ship with the dead captain, (none / 0) (#33)
    by Mr Natural on Fri Apr 15, 2016 at 06:51:10 PM EST
    right?  He was kept on ice and revived for critical conversations, but in a slow motiony, voice only mode.  

    That idea reminds me of one of the Philip K. Dick novels, in which all the characters are in a post mortality mode, i.e., dead.  They are revived occasionally to converse with relatives or whoever's funding the post mortality refrigeration, a state allowing for a total elapsed revived-time of about a 24 hours.  After they burn through that, they're dead for sure.

    You're right, that beach ball was a pretty bad alien.  Totally forgettable and I'd forgotten.  The movie I remember had very cheap sets.  Flats and shadows.

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    Post debate polls--- (none / 0) (#6)
    by ExPatObserver on Fri Apr 15, 2016 at 10:58:53 AM EST
    (real, not internet)?
    I bet Sanders fared poorly, according to New Yorkers, but I won't venture a guess about national polls.

    Snap poll (none / 0) (#8)
    by Steve13209 on Fri Apr 15, 2016 at 11:02:37 AM EST
    at C&L (can I say that here) had >80% Bernie won. Perhaps the respondents were not a random sampling?  lol

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    Who answers online polls? (5.00 / 1) (#17)
    by jbindc on Fri Apr 15, 2016 at 03:12:12 PM EST
    Bernie supporters.

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    You just did...(-: (none / 0) (#9)
    by fishcamp on Fri Apr 15, 2016 at 11:33:25 AM EST
    Clinton up by 17 in NY (none / 0) (#10)
    by ExPatObserver on Fri Apr 15, 2016 at 12:52:04 PM EST
    Quick---call the superdelegates!

    Dear NY Superdelegate (5.00 / 5) (#13)
    by ruffian on Fri Apr 15, 2016 at 01:46:53 PM EST
    Despite the millions more people voting for Hillary in other states and predicted double digit lead in your state, please consider supporting me at the convention instead. Despite leaving the state at a young age and never being a member of your state Democratic Party, you have always been first in my heart. Rest ashuad I will not take any dirty party money to get myself or any Democrats elected in November.

    Feel the Bern!

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    Dear NY Superdelegate... (5.00 / 1) (#15)
    by kdog on Fri Apr 15, 2016 at 02:18:22 PM EST
    In light of our state being the headquarters of the majority of the criminal organizations responsible for the greatest financial fraud of the 20th-21st centuries, I have a suggestion of how we can start to make amends to the nation and the world...

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    ... by nominating me, and thus ... (5.00 / 3) (#19)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Fri Apr 15, 2016 at 03:51:55 PM EST
    ... handing the election to batschitt crazy Republicans on a virtual silver platter, as I spending the rest of the campaign lecturing the country about the difference between democratic socialism and -- well, you know, socialism.

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    I won't be releasing my tax returns in years (5.00 / 2) (#25)
    by ruffian on Fri Apr 15, 2016 at 05:37:32 PM EST
    to come as I hit the lecture circuit during the Trump Administration.

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    sweet talker! (none / 0) (#16)
    by ruffian on Fri Apr 15, 2016 at 03:06:25 PM EST
    Adorable (5.00 / 1) (#18)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Apr 15, 2016 at 03:30:07 PM EST
    I luv your "ashuad"

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    I've watched too many debates (5.00 / 2) (#24)
    by ruffian on Fri Apr 15, 2016 at 05:35:57 PM EST
    though not last night's. Everytime I watch I like both of them a little less.

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    Yes, I only watched a portion (5.00 / 1) (#37)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Apr 16, 2016 at 05:58:27 AM EST
    Of the this last debate. I know we must primary, but I'm tired of this. It becomes disheartening.

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    Me too/neither/too :( (none / 0) (#38)
    by Nemi on Sat Apr 16, 2016 at 06:04:09 AM EST
    Tebow for Congress? (none / 0) (#28)
    by oculus on Fri Apr 15, 2016 at 06:14:04 PM EST


    If Francis endorses him, why not! (5.00 / 1) (#29)
    by ExPatObserver on Fri Apr 15, 2016 at 06:16:10 PM EST
    No (5.00 / 1) (#30)
    by FlJoe on Fri Apr 15, 2016 at 06:25:43 PM EST
    way, Tebow couldn't throw a Hail Mary if his soul depended on it.

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    I'll take him on his back (5.00 / 2) (#31)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Apr 15, 2016 at 06:28:55 PM EST
    Missionary position.  

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    St. Bernard met with the Pope, (none / 0) (#36)
    by ExPatObserver on Sat Apr 16, 2016 at 05:27:13 AM EST
    after all. I wouldn't mind if the Pope praises Sanders' commitment to socialism.

    "St. Bernard" (5.00 / 1) (#39)
    by Mr Natural on Sat Apr 16, 2016 at 06:28:57 AM EST
    What's wrong with a cute, fuzzy president?

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    5 minutes (5.00 / 1) (#40)
    by jbindc on Sat Apr 16, 2016 at 08:11:48 AM EST
    Does (5.00 / 3) (#41)
    by Ga6thDem on Sat Apr 16, 2016 at 08:20:27 AM EST
    anybody else find this whole episode cringe worthy?

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    I do (5.00 / 3) (#45)
    by Towanda on Sat Apr 16, 2016 at 11:41:16 AM EST
    as a former Catholic, who understands why this was so wrong -- for both the candidate and the pope.  And I fault the candidate more, as Sanders also is doing ads and more that claim it as a papal endorsement.

    I am so old as to remember the extreme anti-Catholicism in the 1960 election.  And I fear that Sanders has encouraged its return.  Not that he cares, as it won't affect him, and that's all that matters.

    But Jane Sanders is (or claims to be) a Catholic, and an Irish Catholic at that, and is my age so also of an age to remember the anti-Catholicism in 1960.  Not that she cares, either, about anyone but herself, the more that I see of and about her.

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    It seems like Bernie did not give the (5.00 / 2) (#46)
    by vml68 on Sat Apr 16, 2016 at 11:47:32 AM EST
    Yeah (5.00 / 4) (#47)
    by Ga6thDem on Sat Apr 16, 2016 at 12:00:56 PM EST
    the pope basically gave Bernie's whole story a smack down with his statement.

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    Ha. Pope stalking (5.00 / 1) (#48)
    by ruffian on Sat Apr 16, 2016 at 12:46:16 PM EST
    Francis was very gracious about it IMO

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    Yes. I laughed when I read that. (5.00 / 1) (#50)
    by vml68 on Sat Apr 16, 2016 at 12:54:35 PM EST
    It is just about the most diplomatic way to say that he got waylaid!

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    has the makings of a funny SNL sketch (5.00 / 1) (#51)
    by ruffian on Sat Apr 16, 2016 at 01:02:10 PM EST
    We'll see....

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    Towanda: Read the Pope's version (none / 0) (#54)
    by christinep on Sat Apr 16, 2016 at 02:16:39 PM EST
    Per that version--with quotes of Pope Francis' comments from the AP--we are looking at a quick handshake with meet & greet in the lobby of the hotel where the Pope has resided since the beginning of his papacy.  Pope Francis told reporters on his way to Greece regarding the immigration situation that he spotted the entourage in the lobby and because it was "good manners," he decided to "greet" and "shake hands" with Sanders & co.  He added it was "nothing more," noting specifically that he was not getting involved in politics.  Pope Francis even added that if someone thought that the good-manners gesture was anything more than that, the person should "see a psychiatrist."

    I believe Pope Francis' version of what has been acknowledged as a five-minute encounter.  Correspondingly, we all understand that the one that needs to make it sound as if the hand-shake amounted to something more than Sanders' hanging-out in the lobby hoping to say hello , well ....

    What this episode of spending a bunch of $$$$$ to fly to Rome with an entourage after securing an invite to the task force session for a several-minute speech and then finding a way to greet/run into Pope Francis at the hotel is:  BS is telling more BS while making a final run for the New York vote via digging for potential votes among the substantial Catholic populace.  As for me: This old Catholic (me) thinks it is too obvious--used to be called "too transparent"--what the whole episode says about the character of someone who would try to play the Pope as he surely tried to do.  The fiasco flight is the worst kind of transparency.

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    Almost forgot my Yeltsin story (5.00 / 4) (#55)
    by christinep on Sat Apr 16, 2016 at 02:31:59 PM EST
    Chris' Meeting with Yeltsin.  In the late 1990s, the Summit of Eight was held in Denver. One of the participants would be Russia's President Boris Yeltsin.  Because the (late) President Yeltsin was said to be staying at a hotel across the street from my office and because entry to that hotel with its second-floor bar could be easily reached by an enclosed over-street expanse from office building to hotel, I thought that it would be worth trying to spot him, wave, whatever ... and, given that I studied Russian for some years in my younger life, it seemed cool if I could say "hello" plus a sentence of greeting in Russian.  So ....

    My sister called me at the office later in the afternoon to tell me when the Russian delegation's plane arrived -- and, I sauntered across the walkway to the bar, enjoyed a drink, and found the reporter sitting adjacent an ally of figuring that we could get on the escalator of the still-open areas (the hotel had regular guests) and hang out in the small lobby.  Our move to the lobby was none too soon, as security from both countries positioned themselves among a few guests and hotel staff ....  The long & short ... The sirens sounded, the motorcade drove up, President Yeltsin & spouse entered ... they were greeted politely by the dozen or so people awaiting in the lobby ... including me.  I shook his wife's hand and his hand and actually sputtered out a few sentences in Russian to a gentlemanly Russian President who spoke with me.  A few minutes.  Maybe that was a meeting by today's standards.

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    Very impressive. Tough language. (none / 0) (#63)
    by oculus on Sat Apr 16, 2016 at 06:02:32 PM EST
    I can say "I don't speak Russian."  But could not grasp how to add "very well."  

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    Last October I spent my (none / 0) (#78)
    by ExPatObserver on Sat Apr 16, 2016 at 10:48:29 PM EST
    Fall break at a hotel in a regional resort area.
    After a couple of days there were a lot of people around, organizing something. I found out that Putin and the other CIS leaders were taking over the hotel the day after I was leaving. I asked if I could extend my stay, but no dice:)


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    Hm, I never (none / 0) (#89)
    by Nemi on Sun Apr 17, 2016 at 07:15:23 AM EST
    got much further than to saying Na zdorovie ... and not even getting that quite right. ;)

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    My most favorite toast ...for all occasions (5.00 / 1) (#93)
    by christinep on Sun Apr 17, 2016 at 09:18:10 AM EST
    The Polish side of my family has always started dinner outings with that wish.  Thanks.

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    According to (5.00 / 1) (#69)
    by Nemi on Sat Apr 16, 2016 at 06:49:39 PM EST
    this photo of the Pope and given his version of the encounter, it was probably more like just two minutes. :)

    And in a report from CBS Bernie Sanders explained that

    ... we chose not to do pictures.

    "We chose"? More likely the Pope or members of his staff made that 'choice'!

    Also Bernie Sanders keeps giving the impression that the Pope personally invited him to attend the conference and that this chance meeting in the lobby (wonder for how long he and Jane had lingered there!) was a 'private audience'. Later he expressed how he was "honored to have met with him", when he didn't really meet with him, but just met him.

    All this 'papalooza-kerfuffle' makes me think of all the other 'inaccuracies' coming from him and his campaign, and suspecting they actively rely on "A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on."

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    Nemi: You got it! (5.00 / 1) (#76)
    by christinep on Sat Apr 16, 2016 at 09:02:28 PM EST
    Yes.  Speaking of language usage, I have come to appreciate Sanders' suggestive approach in wording ... leading the listener to the edge so that one may believe a word or conclusion is there that isn't ... insinuating, strongly implying ... walking to & beyond the point of misleading, yet all the while maintaining plausible deniability.

    Well, the New York Primary is do-or-die time for him. That, in itself, exposes a lot about one's character.

    The video and transcript of Pope Francis' plane statement about it all is so much more important ... and so very telling about this person known as Senator Sanders.

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    Heh (not really laughing) (5.00 / 2) (#86)
    by Nemi on Sun Apr 17, 2016 at 06:42:48 AM EST
    Like when he says, and keeps repeating over and over and over again, that "You know [first name of interviewer], I never attack her on X, or Y, or Z." Or "People come up to me orle the time saying, Hey Bernie, why don't you attack her on X, and Y and Z! But you never see me doing that." Well actually sir, dude, you sort of just did. And you know it.

    Some will always buy into that kind of demagogy - or claims of purity as it were! - and unfortunately more often than not that includes the socalled Fourth Estate, whose job it is/ought to be to instead call it out.

    In an interview after the now infamous 'meeting', Bernie Sanders referenced to reporters what he had said to the Pope and what the Pope had said ... phrasing it in a way so you wouldn't necessarily know that what he referred to was things the Pope has said in general, and not in the non-existing audience with Bernie. The media, with their over the moon elation over this meeting, did nothing to correct that misperception. They seem to be as thrilled as Bernie Sanders over the 'meeting'. Go figure.

    And I know, all pols do it, 'play' us or try to: Pols are pols and do what pols do. But that doesn't make it any more acceptable. And it's even less acceptable that the media goes along with it.

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    I have noticed that before. (5.00 / 1) (#87)
    by ExPatObserver on Sun Apr 17, 2016 at 06:57:59 AM EST
    Obviously he learned a lesson from Julius Caesar when he was a schoolboy: "For Hillary is an honest woman"

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    And about (5.00 / 1) (#88)
    by Nemi on Sun Apr 17, 2016 at 06:58:31 AM EST
    the Pope taking questions on the plane on his way back from Lesbos, wanting of course to focus specifically on his visit and the refugee crisis in general, I felt almost sorry for him, being forced to defend himself and his encounter with Bernie Sanders. He certainly got to 'feel the Bern'!

    It's not only shameful but totally unacceptable for Bernie Sanders to put the Pope- or anyone for that matter - in that kind of spot! All purely for his own gain. But I'm glad to see that at least on social media he is being ridiculed in the extreme over this stunt. Even the 'BernBros' keep awfully quiet.

    Way to go Bernie, trying to humiliate Francis!

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    CNN State of the Union this morning (5.00 / 1) (#92)
    by mm on Sun Apr 17, 2016 at 09:02:22 AM EST
    Here is the actual lead in"

    "Is the Pope feeling the Bern!

    We'll have Senator Sanders on to talk about that plus his secret meeting with the Pope"


    These people are so dishonest and corrupt, it is just too infuriating anymore.

    I hear also Chuck Todd completely misrepresented George Clooney in his interview and cut our any parts favorable to Hillary.


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    Sanders' use of language is (5.00 / 2) (#95)
    by sallywally on Sun Apr 17, 2016 at 10:04:56 AM EST
    his greatest weapon. Not just the media, but many people in general don't notice it ... they just think Hillary is a soiled, calculating corporate whore without knowing why.

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    That meme preceded Sanders' appearance (none / 0) (#97)
    by Mr Natural on Sun Apr 17, 2016 at 11:10:38 AM EST
    by decades.

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    Yes, but it is (5.00 / 1) (#108)
    by sallywally on Sun Apr 17, 2016 at 11:14:05 PM EST
    Sanders' whole case against her. I didn't think it was something he/his surrogate just made up, only that it is directed at Clinton and is the innuendo behind everything he says about her.

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    I had read it -- and also this: (none / 0) (#101)
    by Towanda on Sun Apr 17, 2016 at 12:00:38 PM EST
    That the Sanderses waylaid the Pope at 6 a.m.

    Not a chance encounter on the way to breakfast. . . .

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    Sure, but maybe this rock star (none / 0) (#43)
    by ExPatObserver on Sat Apr 16, 2016 at 09:07:24 AM EST
    approach works.

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    It works (5.00 / 2) (#44)
    by Ga6thDem on Sat Apr 16, 2016 at 09:26:06 AM EST
    for the hardcore St. Bernard people I'm sure. My question would be how far does the cringe worthy episode expand in the electorate.

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    When he's right, he's right (none / 0) (#61)
    by ruffian on Sat Apr 16, 2016 at 05:08:26 PM EST
    Trump:
    Five minutes sounds like 'Try and get me in to see him so I don't get myself embarrassed before I come back to New York,'" Trump said, referring to the Vermont senator's lagging poll numbers ahead of Tuesday's primary. "So a five-minute visit, you cannot do much in a five-minute -- after you say 'hello,' there's not time left."

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    That's (5.00 / 1) (#68)
    by Ga6thDem on Sat Apr 16, 2016 at 06:49:13 PM EST
    why if it ever was Trump versus Bernie Trump would take him down in short order. He would turn him into a laughingstock in short order much like he did to Jeb and everybody else.

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    And, I wouldn't mind (5.00 / 4) (#102)
    by KeysDan on Sun Apr 17, 2016 at 05:23:09 PM EST
    if Sanders admonished the Pope's stance on abortion, contraception, gay rights/marriage, and women in the priesthood. And, then there is the matter of institutional sexual abuse of boys and young men--and the cover-up.  A long way to travel to court this "beautiful man."

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    Interesting (none / 0) (#42)
    by FlJoe on Sat Apr 16, 2016 at 08:39:22 AM EST
    story in the "28 Pages Saga", Saudi Arabia Warns of Economic Fallout if Congress Passes 9/11 Bill

    Weird political dynamics on this one, on one side

    The administration, which argues that the legislation would put Americans at legal risk overseas, has been lobbying so intently against the bill that some lawmakers and families of Sept. 11 victims are infuriated. In their view, the Obama administration has consistently sided with the kingdom and has thwarted their efforts to learn what they believe to be the truth about the role some Saudi officials played in the terrorist plot.
     
    on the other side
    a Congress fractured by bitter partisanship, especially during an election year. It is sponsored by Senator John Cornyn, Republican of Texas, and Senator Chuck Schumer, Democrat of New York. It has the support of an unlikely coalition of liberal and conservative senators, including Al Franken, Democrat of Minnesota, and Ted Cruz, Republican of Texas. It passed through the Judiciary Committee in January without dissent.

    Bob Graham was just on CNN, where if I heard it correctly, he unequivocally stated that the 9/11 would not have happened without help from the kingdom

    that link didnt work for me (none / 0) (#53)
    by linea on Sat Apr 16, 2016 at 01:33:02 PM EST
    didnt sent me to the article.

    but i found the issue described in IndiaTimes:
    Saudi Arabia has told the Obama administration and members of Congress that it will sell off hundreds of billions of dollars' worth of American assets held by the kingdom if Congress passes a bill that would allow the Saudi government to be held responsible in US courts for any role in the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

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    Try (none / 0) (#56)
    by FlJoe on Sat Apr 16, 2016 at 02:40:52 PM EST
    this one. The 28 pages has long been a hobbyhorse of mine.

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    oh (none / 0) (#60)
    by linea on Sat Apr 16, 2016 at 05:02:01 PM EST
    thank you.  that works.

    what does this mean?

    "The administration, which argues that the legislation would put Americans at legal risk overseas, has been lobbying so intently against the bill..."

    how are americans at legal risk overseas?  the saudis are going to arrest american moslems on pilgrimage to use as hostages? the saudis will imprison our diplomats in retribution? i dont understand.

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    Presumably retribution by (none / 0) (#64)
    by oculus on Sat Apr 16, 2016 at 06:04:43 PM EST
    jihaadists

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    Libel Tourism (5.00 / 1) (#100)
    by Mr Natural on Sun Apr 17, 2016 at 11:44:49 AM EST
    was the sport of Saudi billionaires.  I don't know the current status or if the 2010 U.S. legislation protects Americans while overseas.

    The Saudi comment referenced legal difficulties.  That could describe effects as small as pecuniary thumbs on the scales of regional legal systems to effects as large as dumping dollar denominated oil trading.

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    Here's (none / 0) (#71)
    by FlJoe on Sat Apr 16, 2016 at 07:34:29 PM EST
    the link to Bob Graham's interview He pretty much accuses the Saudis of complicity and our government of covering it up.
    "The Saudis have known what they did in 9/11, and they knew that we knew what they did, at least at the highest levels of the U.S. government,"
     I believe every word of it.

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    ... Pat Buchanan was on last night's "The McLaughlin Group," when he said that if Saudi officials and / or prominent members of the royal family had in any assisted or facilitated the efforts of the hijackers who perpetrated the 9/11 attacks, then the American people have an absolute right to know about it.

    Further, it's high time that we learn the exact nature of the longstanding business ties between the Bush family and the House of Saud. I'd lay better than even odds that the primary reason for suppressing key components of the 9/11 report was to spare their friends a multitude of embarrassing revelations and questions, and thus preserve those ties.

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    How about a stop by Canterbury (none / 0) (#59)
    by ExPatObserver on Sat Apr 16, 2016 at 04:26:26 PM EST
    on the way back? I'm sure the Archbishop would have "good manners".

    No go (none / 0) (#70)
    by FlJoe on Sat Apr 16, 2016 at 07:17:26 PM EST
    the Archbishop gave a speech at GS, an obvous whore.

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    "Hey, Democrats, stop gloating" (none / 0) (#98)
    by Mr Natural on Sun Apr 17, 2016 at 11:27:53 AM EST
    " -- your party is imploding right before your eyes, too..."

    The governing narrative of the 2016 Presidential campaign so far has been that GOP is imploding. All it took was the adolescent agitprop of Donald Trump to lay bare the rift between the Party Establishment (i.e. corporate donors) and the Party Base, whose anxieties and prejudices they have been manipulating for decades.

    A trigger warning for crap addicts and those of credulous sensibilities, Salon.com could induce a bit of cognitive dissonance.

    on monday (none / 0) (#103)
    by linea on Sun Apr 17, 2016 at 06:22:10 PM EST
    SCOTUS to hesr oral arguments on D.A.P.A. (Deferred Action for Parents of Americans and Lawful Permanent Residents)

    i believe a tie means the injuction stands?

    Brazil on the brink? (none / 0) (#110)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Mon Apr 18, 2016 at 04:34:56 AM EST
    Just in time for this year's Summer Olympic Games in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil's lower house of Congress voted Sunday to impeach President Dilma Rousseff, thanks in large part to efforts orchestrated by Speaker Eduardo Cunha of the controversial Brazilian Democratic Movement Party (PMDB), who is presently on trial himself before the country's Supreme Court for corruption.

    In fact, more than half of the lower house members who voted Sunday face accusations of corruption or serious crimes, while President Rousseff has not been charged with anything.

    Things could get very ugly before they get better in Latin America's largest and most powerful country, which only emerged from military dictatorship in 1985.

    Aloha.

    I just ghost pepper sprayed my baby peaches (none / 0) (#112)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Apr 18, 2016 at 11:20:58 AM EST
    Thinking of you Zorba

    Erick Erickson (none / 0) (#115)
    by ExPatObserver on Mon Apr 18, 2016 at 04:57:49 PM EST
    almost died from a pulmonary embolism.
    His doctor told him "you should be dead", which he has been told many times before, but not in this context.
    He has been told his lungs are full of clots.
    Wow.. that sounds bad.
    Is this something related to blood pressure and obesity, typically? I'm just curious what caused a rather young man to have such a serious health problem.

    This (none / 0) (#116)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Apr 18, 2016 at 05:36:18 PM EST
    link shows the causes here. Obesity is one of the causes of them among others.

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    Arrivederci, "Mamma" Barone. (none / 0) (#118)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Mon Apr 18, 2016 at 09:20:30 PM EST
    Doris Roberts (1925-2016), who became a big hit with audiences and critics alike for her inimitable turn as the meddlesome Marie Barone in the long-running TV comedy "Everybody Loves Raymond," died today at her home in Los Angeles of natural causes.

    Roberts got a relatively late start in her show business career, which began at age 35 with an appearance on television's "Studio One." She labored diligently if somewhat anonymously as a character actress on stage and screen for the better part of three decades, before first really catching the attention of producers and critics in 1983 with a dazzling supporting performance on NBC's medical drama "St. Elsewhere, " which won her the first of her five Emmy Awards.

    Ms. Roberts' stint as Ray Romano's well meaning but intrusive mother on "Everybody Loves Raymond" (1996-2005) quickly established her as an unlikely but quickly beloved pop icon at age 71, and brought her seven more Emmy nominations and four more awards, as well as a SAG award as part of the show's ensemble cast. "Raymond" continues to run extensively through cable syndication.

    And she's being remembered today by both Romano and co-star Patricia Heaton as the consummate professional who, with her TV husband the late Peter Boyle, took the show's two young and talented but nervous lead actors under wing and gave them the confidence and support necessary to carry the show on their shoulders.

    Everybody Loves Doris.

    Gimme Jimmy (none / 0) (#120)
    by ruffian on Tue Apr 19, 2016 at 09:24:36 AM EST
    Season finale of Better Call Saul was last night - I was not prepared at all for it to be over for the season. Glad to know they are hard at work on Season 3.  I have run out of superlatives for this show.

    Made the msitake of watching the 'Talking Saul' show afterwards...the host is about as shallow a fanboy as there could be. Jonathan Banks was so patient, but could not restrain himself from contradicting the host on a key point of character development. No dear host, all siblings DO NOT reconcile in the end because they are family. where on earth would he get that drivel - oh yeah, normal network TV. Certainly not anything in this show. Aaargh.

    GOT starts (none / 0) (#121)
    by ragebot on Tue Apr 19, 2016 at 10:07:26 AM EST
    Sunday and siblings in that show all seem to get along so well.

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