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Trump Takes South Carolina

By Jeralyn, Section Elections 2016
Posted on Sat Feb 20, 2016 at 07:41:30 PM EST
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Donald Trump wins the South Carolina primary. Cruz and Rubio battle for second.

Trump's victory was sweeping. He won among veterans and non-veterans, moderates and conservatives, evangelicals and non-evangelicals, women and men, according to the results of the exit poll conducted by Edison Research for the Associated Press and the major television networks.

As he has throughout the campaign, Trump dominated the vote of Republicans without a college education and those with incomes below $100,000. College graduates were closely divided among backers of Trump, Cruz and Rubio. Those with incomes above $100,000 split their vote between Trump and Rubio, the exit poll indicated.

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    Well, Marco is going to have to (5.00 / 1) (#43)
    by NYShooter on Sun Feb 21, 2016 at 09:45:41 PM EST
    put on his Big-Boy pants for that, and, if he takes on Trump with a full frontal assault, on him personally, not on boring "positions," we could have a very interesting knife fight going forward. If he hesitates, if he becomes paralyzed with the "deer in the headlights," act again, the game will be over........for good.

    Cruz, OTOH, doesn't stand a chance; he's a terribly flawed candidate, his ceiling is quite low, not a single one of his 99 Fellow Senators has endorsed him. What can I say, he's the most hated person in the most hated club there is. Politics. His fate was sealed when a classmate of his in college was asked by a reporter, "why does Cruz have this unlikeable reputation?" The classmate answered with a question, "have you met Cruz yet?" The reporter said, "no, not yet." The classmate finished with, "when you meet him you'll know." "To know him is to hate him."

    Picture THAT on a bumper sticker.

    My favorite slam on Cruz- (5.00 / 1) (#44)
    by caseyOR on Sun Feb 21, 2016 at 09:49:21 PM EST
    Why do people instantly dislike Cruz?

    It saves time.

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    Hey, thanks a lot!! (none / 0) (#45)
    by NYShooter on Sun Feb 21, 2016 at 09:53:15 PM EST
    I could've saved two paragraphs.

    lol

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    Yeah (none / 0) (#1)
    by Ga6thDem on Sat Feb 20, 2016 at 07:48:07 PM EST
    Trump is an SC kind of candidate so none of this surprises me.

    I Wonder (none / 0) (#22)
    by RickyJim on Sat Feb 20, 2016 at 08:57:34 PM EST
    I would think that slamming a war that brought prosperity to the state would not get many votes but  I don't understand the priorities down there.

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    prosperity? (5.00 / 2) (#33)
    by Mr Natural on Sun Feb 21, 2016 at 05:09:08 AM EST
    It also brought a lot of death and debilitating injuries to those who actually participated.  If you had a family member in uniform that side of the "mission accomplished" jingoism would be in your face every single day.

    People aren't stupid.

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    Jeb! Quits! (none / 0) (#2)
    by Mr Natural on Sat Feb 20, 2016 at 07:54:17 PM EST
    Throws in the $81M Towel

    Hopefully, Jeb's! dismal (none / 0) (#19)
    by caseyOR on Sat Feb 20, 2016 at 08:35:07 PM EST
    showing, and the voters' obvious lack of respect for or interest in the Bushes, will serve to discourage any other Bush from seeking office.

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    Trump still has to learn ... (none / 0) (#3)
    by Robot Porter on Sat Feb 20, 2016 at 07:54:27 PM EST
    how to give a victory speech.

    He doesn't give the press a good line to clip.

    Love the bird (none / 0) (#4)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Feb 20, 2016 at 07:58:41 PM EST


    Wonder if Scott Walker ... (none / 0) (#5)
    by Robot Porter on Sat Feb 20, 2016 at 08:00:54 PM EST
    regrets dropping out now.

    Yeah, Walker could (5.00 / 1) (#25)
    by MKS on Sat Feb 20, 2016 at 10:32:43 PM EST
    have had Rubio's spot.

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    Donald wins (none / 0) (#6)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Feb 20, 2016 at 08:01:43 PM EST
    But if Marco stays in second that is going to be the mediagazhum for the next week.
    If Mr. Roboto had come in third ... (none / 0) (#7)
    by Robot Porter on Sat Feb 20, 2016 at 08:04:41 PM EST
    he would have been the big story.

    The chattering class loves him.

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    Exactly (none / 0) (#8)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Feb 20, 2016 at 08:08:52 PM EST
    But he is second

    AND

    he now has all of Jebs donors

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    lol. Rhymes with donors. "owners" (none / 0) (#9)
    by Mr Natural on Sat Feb 20, 2016 at 08:12:44 PM EST


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    And he will "dispel with some fictions ... (none / 0) (#11)
    by Robot Porter on Sat Feb 20, 2016 at 08:16:56 PM EST
    dispel with some fictions ... dispel with some fictions."

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    It's morning (none / 0) (#13)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Feb 20, 2016 at 08:18:31 PM EST
    In North America

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    It's morning in .... (none / 0) (#18)
    by Robot Porter on Sat Feb 20, 2016 at 08:23:40 PM EST
    AWAITING FIRMWARE UPGRADE ...

    Cuba ... bzzzt ... Florida ... bzzt ...

    America.

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    He's sweating ... (none / 0) (#14)
    by Robot Porter on Sat Feb 20, 2016 at 08:19:02 PM EST
    and seems about to glitch.

    ;)

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    Hillary Clinton ... (none / 0) (#17)
    by Robot Porter on Sat Feb 20, 2016 at 08:20:15 PM EST
    doesn't sweat.

    I wonder, if she runs against him, she'll make sure all their joint appearances are in very hot rooms?

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    That's a little (5.00 / 1) (#26)
    by MKS on Sat Feb 20, 2016 at 10:35:30 PM EST
    Machiavellian, no?  Ooh, so mean....

     

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    Nixon's sweaty upper lip (none / 0) (#34)
    by Mr Natural on Sun Feb 21, 2016 at 05:11:00 AM EST


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    Is South Carolina Winner Takes All? (none / 0) (#10)
    by RickyJim on Sat Feb 20, 2016 at 08:12:47 PM EST
    This page shows Trump taking 38 of 50 delegates, 12 unpledged and the other candidates got nothing.  In contrast, Nevada is shown as Clinton 22, Sanders 15 and 6 unpledged.

    No, Trump is just leading ... (none / 0) (#12)
    by Robot Porter on Sat Feb 20, 2016 at 08:17:42 PM EST
    in all the counties.

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    And all (none / 0) (#15)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Feb 20, 2016 at 08:19:08 PM EST
    Congressional districts

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    Trump (none / 0) (#16)
    by FlJoe on Sat Feb 20, 2016 at 08:19:56 PM EST
    gets 29 statewide and 21 are winner take all by district(3 per district). I haven't see  the district breakdown, but I suspect he won them all for a sweep of all 50 delegates.

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    Haha (none / 0) (#20)
    by Ga6thDem on Sat Feb 20, 2016 at 08:42:49 PM EST
    So coming in 2nd and 3rd means nothing for Rubio and Cruz.

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    Florida is winner take all iirc (none / 0) (#28)
    by MKS on Sat Feb 20, 2016 at 10:38:14 PM EST
    So, Trump could seal it there.

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    Florida is too late (none / 0) (#29)
    by MKS on Sat Feb 20, 2016 at 10:45:29 PM EST
    Nevada in a couple of days and then Super Tuesday in a about week.  That should end it.

    A lot of the Super Tuesday GOP states have proportional awards of delegates with a 50% winner-take-all threshold.

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    I disagree (5.00 / 1) (#40)
    by FlJoe on Sun Feb 21, 2016 at 02:29:13 PM EST
    only ~1000 delegates will have been allocated before march 15th, even giving him a generous 60% of those leaves him ~500 short(I doubt he is going to meet the WTA triggers anywhere). Even conceding him 165 winner take all Ohio and FL will leave him ~350 short or maybe 250 short if he takes half of the remaining WTM states on that day. Under that rosy scenario he wouldn't be able to officially lock up it up until April 19th with NY. Or more likely a week later NE/mid Atlantic with a decent share of the 192 delegates.

    On the other hand in a more realistic(IMO) scenario, he gets only 40% pre WTA tues delegates and he ends up needing ~450 after WTA Tues with all the Southern states done, possibly sending it into late May or gasp Early June.

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    Talk about winner-take-all (none / 0) (#30)
    by MKS on Sat Feb 20, 2016 at 10:59:38 PM EST
    Trump looks like he will take ALL 50 delegates in South Carolina.  

    They award delegates by Congressional District, and Trump is ahead in all of them currently.

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    They just said (none / 0) (#23)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Feb 20, 2016 at 09:09:24 PM EST
    Donald may win all 50 delegates

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    A (none / 0) (#24)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Feb 20, 2016 at 09:10:21 PM EST
    "Very good probability"

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    Ah, suppose I didn't see this (none / 0) (#31)
    by MKS on Sat Feb 20, 2016 at 11:00:22 PM EST
    when I posted above.

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    In the last week or so ... (none / 0) (#21)
    by Robot Porter on Sat Feb 20, 2016 at 08:44:32 PM EST
    it seems right wing radio has stopped their flirtation with Trump and picked Cruz.

    Wonder what impact that will have?  

    They were against Romney last time. But could never settle on a horse.

    Can Rubio take first? (none / 0) (#27)
    by MKS on Sat Feb 20, 2016 at 10:37:05 PM EST
    Trump would love to buy off Rubio with VP, one would think.

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    I don't (none / 0) (#36)
    by Ga6thDem on Sun Feb 21, 2016 at 10:35:03 AM EST
    think Rubio can win anywhere. Cruz at least can say he won Iowa. Rubio doesn't even have that.

    Romney just endorsed Rubio. Yeah, that'll really get more voters on his team---not.

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    Nate Silver (5.00 / 1) (#39)
    by FlJoe on Sun Feb 21, 2016 at 11:19:24 AM EST
    has him a slight favorite in Va with 45% prob of winning to Trump,s 35%,besides it's not really about win's, it's about delegates, it's still quite possible that the  the 628 delegates awarded on ST could be split more or less into 1/3 apiece settling nothing.
    Alabama, Alaska, Arkansas, Colorado, Georgia, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Texas, Vermont, Virginia, Wyoming all vote on ST I could easily see Rubio squeezing out victories In Mass, Minn along with Va and definitely hold his own in CO and VT.

    Texas, appears to be Cruz's best shot, where because of it's winner take most(by district) format might enable him to take over half of the 155 delegates and Rubio maybe only getting 10-20 of them.
     

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    Donald is going to (none / 0) (#37)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Feb 21, 2016 at 10:38:10 AM EST
    Eviserate Marco in the south.   Marco will do squat in the south.   Which happens to be coming and may be larger it hat it appears in the mirror.

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    Oh, I agree (none / 0) (#38)
    by Ga6thDem on Sun Feb 21, 2016 at 11:00:29 AM EST
    like I have said before Cruz and Trump at least have a constituency in the south. I guess Rubio has what you would call the "leftovers" people who do not support Trump or Cruz or moderates who like Kasich etc.

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    How do I say this.... (none / 0) (#47)
    by ruffian on Mon Feb 22, 2016 at 10:37:02 AM EST
    the GOP's problem with minorities, Latinos included, is a bottom up problem...throwing more minority candidates out there is not going to help until the base of acceptance for minorities and immigrants is laid. Cruz and Rubio are discovering the nature of the party they signed up with.

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    They think speaking better Spanish in a debate (none / 0) (#48)
    by ruffian on Mon Feb 22, 2016 at 10:38:32 AM EST
    helps them with the GOP rank and file. Uh, no.

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    What's a radio? (none / 0) (#35)
    by Mr Natural on Sun Feb 21, 2016 at 05:11:46 AM EST


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    Yet, taking it to its logical conclusion, (none / 0) (#32)
    by NYShooter on Sun Feb 21, 2016 at 12:00:19 AM EST
    if they had 100 candidates the winner could become the nominee with 2% of the votes.

    With each Primary, Trump wins with 33%; as, one by one, the pretenders drop out, the remaining ones move up, and Trump stays at 33% and still wins.

    Howdy (none / 0) (#41)
    by Ga6thDem on Sun Feb 21, 2016 at 08:42:02 PM EST
    it has started. Trump is now questioning Rubio's eligibility to be President. I should have guessed this is where it would start.

    I (none / 0) (#42)
    by FlJoe on Sun Feb 21, 2016 at 08:50:28 PM EST
    can't wait until he does a full Christie on him during the next debate.

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    new polling (none / 0) (#46)
    by FlJoe on Mon Feb 22, 2016 at 10:20:36 AM EST
    out today

    Trump hits the magical 50% for the first time any where Mass (34 point lead but I am not buying that right now)

    Well (none / 0) (#49)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Feb 22, 2016 at 10:44:04 AM EST
    the Sanders/Clinton numbers jibe with what PPP came out the other day in MA from that pollster. I don't know but didn't Trump have a bunch of people in MA show up for a rally there?

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