UnPresident Cheeto Claims He Won Popular Vote

UnPresident-Elect Donald Cheeto claimed today he would have won the popular vote if voters hadn't cheated.


Let's talk about Mitt Romney for a minute, who was trashed today on TV by Trump's clueless former campaign manager. (What is her job now that the campaign is over? Can she please go back to wherever she came from?)

In March, 2016, Romney gave a speech at the University of Utah. He refused to endorse Trump, trashed his policies and and decimated his character and temperament. Here's the transcript.

First, the economy: If Donald Trump's plans were ever implemented, the country would sink into a prolonged recession.

A few examples: His proposed 35% tariff-like penalties would instigate a trade war that would raise prices for consumers, kill export jobs, and lead entrepreneurs and businesses to flee America. His tax plan, in combination with his refusal to reform entitlements and to honestly address spending would balloon the deficit and the national debt.

...His bankruptcies have crushed small businesses and the men and women who worked for them. He inherited his business, he didn't create it. And what ever happened to Trump Airlines? How about Trump University? And then there's Trump Magazine and Trump Vodka and Trump Steaks, and Trump Mortgage? A business genius he is not.

Does anyone really believe Trump would nominate Romney for Secretary of State after he said this about Trump's (lack of) foreign policy chops?

Trump's bombast is already alarming our allies and fueling the enmity of our enemies. Insulting all Muslims will keep many of them from fully engaging with us in the urgent fight against ISIS. And for what purpose? Muslim terrorists would only have to lie about their religion to enter the country.

...Donald Trump tells us that he is very, very smart. I'm afraid that when it comes to foreign policy he is very, very not smart.

On Trump's temperament:

I am far from the first to conclude that Donald Trump lacks the temperament of be president. After all, this is an individual who mocked a disabled reporter, who attributed a reporter's questions to her menstrual cycle, who mocked a brilliant rival who happened to be a woman due to her appearance, who bragged about his marital affairs, and who laces his public speeches with vulgarity.

Donald Trump says he admires Vladimir Putin, while has called George W. Bush a liar. That is a twisted example of evil trumping good.

There is dark irony in his boasts of his sexual exploits during the Vietnam War while John McCain, whom he has mocked, was imprisoned and tortured.

On Trump's character:

Dishonesty is Trump's hallmark.

...The President of the United States has long been the leader of the free world. The president and yes the nominees of the country's great parties help define America to billions of people. All of them bear the responsibility of being an example for our children and grandchildren.

Think of Donald Trump's personal qualities, the bullying, the greed, the showing off, the misogyny, the absurd third grade theatrics

As a con man:

There are a number of people who claim that Mr. Trump is a con man, a fake. There is indeed evidence of that. Mr. Trump has changed his positions not just over the years, but over the course of the campaign...

As a phony and a fraud:

Mr. Trump is directing our anger for less than noble purposes. He creates scapegoats of Muslims and Mexican immigrants, he calls for the use of torture and for killing the innocent children and family members of terrorists. He cheers assaults on protesters. He applauds the prospect of twisting the Constitution to limit first amendment freedom of the press. This is the very brand of anger that has led other nations into the abyss.

Here's what I know. Donald Trump is a phony, a fraud. His promises are as worthless as a degree from Trump University. He's playing the American public for suckers: He gets a free ride to the White House and all we get is a lousy hat.

His domestic policies would lead to recession. His foreign policies would make America and the world less safe. He has neither the temperament nor the judgment to be president. And his personal qualities would mean that America would cease to be a shining city on a hill.

I never believed Trump interviewed Romney for the Secretary of State position. I believe he had some other, ulterior motive....maybe he wanted Mitt to endorse his selection of Rudy Giuliani for SOS, thinking Mitt's endorsement might make it easier for Rudy to get Senate confirmation despite his receipt of funds from foreign governments and his non-experience in foreign affairs. Lobbying or giving speeches for his private security company or law firm hardly makes him an expert on anything, except perhaps conflicts of interest.

If this weren't so pathetic it would be funny. Guess whose opinions Trump sought about who should be Secretary of State? Whoever was in attendance at Mar a Lago for Thanksgiving:

Guests joining Trump for Thanksgiving at Mar-a-Lago included Christopher Nixon Cox, the grandson of Richard Nixon, who we are told is being lined up to be Trump’s ambassador to China. Also there was Marvel Entertainment CEO Ike Perlmutter, CEO of Newsmax Media Christopher Ruddy, boxing promoter Don King, interior designer William Eubanks and political consultant Mary Ourisman. Attracting almost as much attention as the president-elect was chiseled romance-novel hunk Fabio, who was seated at a table near Trump, and “was asked for pictures nearly as often as Trump himself.”

At this point, I won't be surprised if he announces Jared and Ivanka will serve as co-Secretaries of State -- and waive their pay so there is no question of nepotism.

Politico says "He [Trump] is the least popular president-elect in modern history."
I suspect that's a Yuuge understatement.

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    A Loooooooong 4 yrs (5.00 / 2) (#1)
    by Militarytracy on Sun Nov 27, 2016 at 08:03:21 PM EST

    Trump is mentally unstable (5.00 / 2) (#5)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Nov 28, 2016 at 03:34:15 AM EST
    and the GOP is going to do nothing about it.

    Trump will take (5.00 / 1) (#6)
    by MKS on Mon Nov 28, 2016 at 09:33:04 AM EST
    the advice of the last person he talked to--if he is interested enough to care.

    Scary stuff.


    The nationwide popular vote count stands as follows:

    Hillary Clinton    64,654,418 (48.2%)
    Donald Trump    62,418,820 (46.5%)
    Others                 7,192,036 (5.3%)

    Mrs. Clinton's national lead stands at 2,235,598 (1.7%).

    In California, one of three states that Trump falsely claimed yesterday had "serious voter fraud," the statewide popular vote count stands as follows:

    Hillary Clinton    8,172,583 (62.0%)
    Donald Trump    4,239,740 (32.2%)
    Others                  758,916 (5.8%)

    Mrs. Clinton's statewide lead stands at 3,932,843 (29.8%).

    Note: These numbers are accurate, and have not been adjusted to accommodate one particularly thin-skinned candidate's narcissistic delusions. As returns are reported and updated, David Wasserman of The Cook Report posts them HERE.


    And the Wisconsin margin now only (5.00 / 2) (#26)
    by Towanda on Mon Nov 28, 2016 at 10:21:06 PM EST
    seven-tenths of one percent.

    But Walker's sham elections oversight agency (recently replacing a reputable agency) today refused to agree to a hand recount.  

    Stein has filed in circuit court in Dane County to get that ruling tossed, but it looks unlikely.

    And she has til tomorrow to come with $7.5 million for the Wisconsin recount -- which Walker's sham agency set today, up from $1 million previously.

    Walker's bid for a DC job is on the line. . . .


    Geez, Towanda. (none / 0) (#27)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Tue Nov 29, 2016 at 03:32:59 AM EST
    Your state is becoming a banana republic that's worthy of the Somozas.

    And just over (none / 0) (#17)
    by MKS on Mon Nov 28, 2016 at 02:05:55 PM EST
    1 million left to count in CA. Hillary might net another 300k.

    Everyone at CBS NEWS (5.00 / 1) (#9)
    by smott on Mon Nov 28, 2016 at 12:05:11 PM EST
    Needs to resign for their steno headline repeating a baseless claim.

    We have "media" that is accusation-based.
    Not evidence-based.

    We get "Trump says millions voted fraudulently"
    "Trump LIES about voter fraud."

    Thanks, CBS!

    Good luck with your access.

    That was a Twitter feed. (none / 0) (#14)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Mon Nov 28, 2016 at 12:36:19 PM EST
    The folks at CBS News corrected their mistake, and the headline to its story now says, "Donald Trump, citing no evidence, claims 'millions' of people voted illegally in the 2016 election." (Emphasis is mine.)

    Unfortunately, they have not deleted their original tweet, which has since been passed around on the Intertoobs like a bong at a dorm room party.



    What is the crackpot basis (none / 0) (#2)
    by Peter G on Sun Nov 27, 2016 at 09:15:44 PM EST
    and what is the source for the claim that 3 million "illegal" votes were cast for HRC? Knowing this would shed light on where the putative President-elect gets his "information."

    Trump ain't normal... (5.00 / 3) (#4)
    by desertswine on Sun Nov 27, 2016 at 11:09:45 PM EST
    he has, in my opinion, serious mental issues.

    The source is that bastion of journalism, (none / 0) (#3)
    by vml68 on Sun Nov 27, 2016 at 09:22:24 PM EST
    Infowars! Apparently Tr*mp has the time to read that but not attend daily intelligence briefings.

    Mitt Romney: (none / 0) (#7)
    by KeysDan on Mon Nov 28, 2016 at 11:46:32 AM EST
    I'm betting on him being Trump's nominee for Secretary of State, despite, or because of, Mittens being among Trump's fiercest critics, and, probably, brought his old running mate, Paul Ryan, to his seat on the fence during the campaign, whereas, Ryan would have surely gone wholeheartedly for Trump.

    Although, a runner up to Mittens, could be Petraeus, despite, or because of, his guilty plea to mishandling classified information (providing information to his mistress).  

    In assessing Trump, we must get over the idea of rational thinking.  This election has shown that in Trumpland, facts, history, policy, and temperament do not count. And, in trying to counter, never bring reality to an absurdity fight.

    And yet (none / 0) (#12)
    by jbindc on Mon Nov 28, 2016 at 12:34:02 PM EST
    Compared to his other choices so far, and potential choices (for any position), either of those two would be at least sane and rational and would give me a small comfort.

    ... to others about being comforted by George W. Bush's nomination of Colin Powell as Secretary of State. And boy, was I ever proved wrong.

    But....Giuliani..... (none / 0) (#16)
    by jbindc on Mon Nov 28, 2016 at 01:00:18 PM EST
    LOL! (none / 0) (#24)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Mon Nov 28, 2016 at 09:24:12 PM EST

    Serious question all (none / 0) (#10)
    by smott on Mon Nov 28, 2016 at 12:07:30 PM EST
    Who thinks Trump will continue to allow a Daily Press Briefing?

    I call NO.

    Unless (as seems more and more likely)  the WH Press Pool is restricted to Enquirer, Observer, and Breitbart.
    Oh, and InfoWars, who I assume will now have a DC/NY beat.

    Serious question.

    He'll have a daily (none / 0) (#11)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Nov 28, 2016 at 12:25:36 PM EST
    meeting with conspiracy theorists and tweet it out to the rest of the media.

    Guess we need to update (none / 0) (#13)
    by KeysDan on Mon Nov 28, 2016 at 12:35:16 PM EST
    Trump's lies on this matter.  Earlier he said he could have won the popular vote if he wanted to, if he campaigned, say, in states like Florida (which of course, he did do).

     In your records, please supplant this lie with the new pronouncement to have won the electoral college in a landslide, and, Hillary won the popular vote because millions and millions of people voted illegally, and I oppose a recount to prove that what I said is true.

      And, if there was a serious recount, I fear that I will not get to be president--oops, may have told the truth.  Looks like Trump got spooked by the prospects of a recount or is concerned that Dead Castro has refocused the limelight this weekend. Either eleven-dimensional chess or something mental.

    Trump Lies With a Purpose (none / 0) (#18)
    by Michael Masinter on Mon Nov 28, 2016 at 03:46:40 PM EST
    Trump is no fool; he lies with a purpose, as shown by his success through both the republican primaries and the general election.  Two articles suggest the purpose behind his lies, and how to deal with them.  One, by Ned Resnikoff at Think Progress and the other by James Fallows at the Atlantic Monthly, are worth a read.  

    It remains to be seen whether the media will grow a backbone, but there's a reason the first amendment enshrines freedom of the press in the constitution -- a functioning independent press is essential to a functioning democracy, and Trump threatens both.

    I agree (none / 0) (#19)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Nov 28, 2016 at 06:13:21 PM EST
    It's a tactic.  He tells an outrageous lie, media timidly suggests he is not being completely truthful, Trump supporters say there goes the bias media etc etc
    Along the way the whole process of separating truth from fiction gets muddier and muddier.  
    The idea, as it was in the campaign, is to lie so much and so often it becomes totally impossible to keep up.  While we are deconstructing one lie he is already on the a different one.  

    It's working so far.  Hard to see that changing.


    The media (none / 0) (#20)
    by TrevorBolder on Mon Nov 28, 2016 at 07:47:40 PM EST
    Has little or no credibility left, and Trump knows it.

    And there are too many options to bypass the media to speak directly to the populace


    Trump's supporters (5.00 / 1) (#22)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Nov 28, 2016 at 08:29:20 PM EST
    are like moonies. They don't believe anything unless it comes from an approved source. They'll actually believe they won the popular vote. Apparently even the Republicans are telling their interns not to take any calls from voters regarding issues seriously. They all speak the language of Breitbart and spout wild conspiracy theories. So having an internet troll as president is perfect for them.

    Truth and facts have little credibility (5.00 / 1) (#23)
    by MKS on Mon Nov 28, 2016 at 08:36:58 PM EST
    Orwell could not match Trump.

    The media hasn't lost credibility (none / 0) (#21)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Nov 28, 2016 at 08:10:40 PM EST
    Their credibility wasn't something anyone was concerned with before the election. How can you lose something that a majority of readers or viewers never considered important?

    The "media" is not a single unit (none / 0) (#25)
    by Yman on Mon Nov 28, 2016 at 10:09:12 PM EST
    There are many in the "media" that have plenty of credibility.  If by "media" you mean actual news organizations, they are orders-of-magnitude more credible than the "options" you fail to specify.

    I bet he listens to both kinds of music, too. (5.00 / 1) (#28)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Tue Nov 29, 2016 at 03:45:46 AM EST