Trump's Lewd Recording

You can watch Donald Trump's lewd recording at at the Washington Post here.

He is beginning to creep me out. We shouldn't elect a President who makes you feel like taking a shower every time you hear him speak. I don't think he's changed a bit.

Seriously, exactly what kind of change does he offer? He's just a carnival barker. If he loses, which I have no doubt he will, his "Trump" brand will be inexorably tainted. Who would be a big enough chump to buy something that says "Trump" on it? I won't be surprised if NBC changes the name of Celebrity Apprentice before Arnold Schwarzenegger takes over hosting duties in January.

The only place for Trump after this election is the media -- as in his own media company. He'll probably try to become a media mogul and buy or start a new right wing cable news channel and online news outfit. There's a sucker born every minute who will want to watch his show -- even if just to revel in how far he's fallen. [More...]

Update: John McCain tells Politco he and his wife will not vote for either Trump or Hillary. They will write in a Republican candidate
"Cindy and I will not vote for Donald Trump. I have never voted for a Democratic presidential candidate and we will not vote for Hillary Clinton. We will write in the name of some good conservative Republican who is qualified to be President," McCain said in the statement.

Melania Trump's statement:

Even Trump’s wife, Melania, issued a statement saying “the words my husband used are unacceptable and offensive to me.” But she tried to push past the scandal. “I hope people will accept his apology, as I have, and focus on the important issues facing our nation and the world.”
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    The sign to the Trump International Hotel ... (5.00 / 1) (#1)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Fri Oct 07, 2016 at 08:28:35 PM EST
    ... in Waikiki was vandalized this week. Members of UNITE-HERE, Local 5, the hotel and restaurant employees union, have been picketing the place since last weekend, both in response to the candidate himself, and in solidarity with UNITE-HERE members / employees at the Trump Hotel in Las Vegas, where labor and management have been at serious loggerheads.

    The hotel occupancy rate on Oahu is at 93%, yet the only Waikiki hotel that's losing business is the Trump International, where foot traffic and bookings have seen a 14% drop since the beginning of the year. Nationwide, bookings at Trump Hotels have apparently decreased by a whopping 59% during the same period.

    So, if Donald Trump thought running for president represented some kind of a compelling marketing strategy, he looks to have been grossly mistaken.


    "And now, at Sunday's debate, (5.00 / 1) (#11)
    by The Addams Family on Fri Oct 07, 2016 at 11:16:37 PM EST
    Anderson Cooper will have to talk about p*ssy, just as Nostradamus predicted."

    --Dave Rubin, via Twitter

    Your Official GOP Trump Outrage Template: (5.00 / 5) (#14)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Fri Oct 07, 2016 at 11:49:49 PM EST
    "Good (please choose only one of the following, a through c):

    (a) Morning;

    (b) Afternoon;

    (c) Evening.

    As (please choose only one of the following, d through t):

    (d) A devoted husband who loves his wife;

    (e) A devoted wife who loves her husband;

    (f) A concerned father of [INSERT NO. HERE] young children;

    (g) A concerned mother of [INSERT NO. HERE] young children;

    (h) An insanely jealous woman who'd go all Lorena Bobbitt on her sorry-a$$ed man if I ever heard him talking like that;

    (i) An incensed and controlling mother who'd kick her son's a$$ from here to next Sunday if I ever heard him talk like that, and I really don't care if he IS [INSERT NO. HERE] years old;

    (j) A dutiful child who for years has tried in vain to please my increasingly bitter and sullen parents, who themselves were terribly disappointed that I wasn't born of the opposite sex instead, and who never miss an opportunity to tell me so, especially when they can also embarrass me in front of company;

    (k) A thoroughly intimidated and browbeaten mouse of a man who lives in abject fear of (h);

    (l) A human doormat who deeply resents the fact that he is (j) and lives in mortal terror of (i);

    (m) (d) and (f) only;

    (n) (d), (f) and (j) only;

    (o) (f) and (k) only;

    (p) (e) and (g) only;

    (q) (e), (g) and (h) only;

    (r) (e) and (i) only;

    (s) (j) and (k) only;

    (t) (k) and (l) only;

    I am appalled and very much saddened by the inappropriate and coarse comments that I heard from our party's presidential nominee on that audio recording today. Therefore, after considerable soul-searching, I have decided to (please choose only one of the following, u through z):

    (u) Rescind my personal endorsement of our nominee, and instead urge my fellow Republicans to vote for Hillary Clinton;

    (v) Denounce our nominee, resign from the GOP, campaign for Hillary Clinton and further tell anyone who continues to deny the existence of global warming that they must have schitt for brains;

    (w) Forgive and forget, and cravenly urge all Americans to rally around our  party's nominee and vote for him anyway, because I live in desperate fear of being challenged in the next primary by our own Looney Tunes Republican base;

    (x) Double down on stupid, point out in a series of unhinged tweets that "Bu-bu-bu-but, Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky!" and irresponsibly incite the more insane members of our own Looney Tunes Republican base to resort to Second Amendment remedies in the event our nominee is defeated because freedom and liberty;

    (y) Finally bust open that bottle of Johnny Walker Blue Label that I thought I was saving for a special occasion because no matter what I say at this point, my a$$ is likely grass with voters and now I have to see if I can find a real job on K Street;

    (z) Take a long hike along the Appalachian Trail (nudge, nudge, wink, wink, say no more, say no more).

    Thank you very much. May G*d bless you all, and may G*d bless the United States of America."

    rotflmfao, seriously (5.00 / 1) (#15)
    by The Addams Family on Fri Oct 07, 2016 at 11:58:44 PM EST
    brilliant, Donald

    take a cyberbow


    that is some mighty wordcraft, Donald (none / 0) (#20)
    by The Addams Family on Sat Oct 08, 2016 at 12:41:35 AM EST
    This video proves beyond a reasonable doubt that (5.00 / 1) (#21)
    by hilts on Sat Oct 08, 2016 at 01:00:03 AM EST
    Donald Trump is a degenerate and a predator in addition to being a white collar criminal.


    Quit defending him (5.00 / 2) (#23)
    by Repack Rider on Sat Oct 08, 2016 at 01:26:42 AM EST
    Donald Trump is a degenerate and a predator in addition to being a white collar criminal.

    Those are his GOOD qualities.  

    You should apologize for your politically incorrect shaming of degenerates and predators.  They're voters too.  


    Gary Johnson: "What's p*ssy?" (5.00 / 5) (#24)
    by The Addams Family on Sat Oct 08, 2016 at 01:52:00 AM EST

    Trump's (5.00 / 2) (#29)
    by KeysDan on Sat Oct 08, 2016 at 06:05:26 AM EST
    90 second video contained (a) a "hostage" apology, (b) an apology really is not necessary, since it was a youthful indiscretion, ten years ago, when Trump was barely 60 years old, (c) he denied it was him. That was then, this is now, and that was said before he was him, (d) he has learned a lot about women since he was 68 years old, when he started this campaign and met women who lost children and things, (e) Bill Clinton is worse and Hillary is a bully.  

    And just wait until the town hall debate, and he will really have a thing or two to say about how bad the Clinton's are. Besides, there is the in the bus Trump and the outside of the bus Trump. Inside, well..., outside just cheek kisses and says Melania approves.

    My husband wants Hillary to approach (none / 0) (#36)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Oct 08, 2016 at 08:13:15 AM EST
    Donald at the next debate with right handed extended and her left hand protecting her naughty bits.

    "naughty bits," (5.00 / 1) (#39)
    by KeysDan on Sat Oct 08, 2016 at 09:08:32 AM EST
    Trump's videotape in the unabridged form is startling.  Descriptions alone, as vulgar, or reporting with bleeps, sanitizes Trump's sleaze.  Bill Maher, for example, on his more permissive HBO show last night, quoted in "full frontal" Trump's bus musings.

     The audience seemed so startled and disbelieving of Maher's reporting, that he had to pause to state that he was not making it up.   It was surprising to see in NYTimes reporting (a family newspaper?) the fully spelled F#!*. Apparently, the NYTimes, too, felt they had to use the unabridged edition.


    I haven't watched Maher yet (none / 0) (#40)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Oct 08, 2016 at 09:15:25 AM EST
    But will now. Madison Paige "liberal blogger" and BTD on Twitter both had a link to the tape up immediately. Our family had heard it several times after 3:30 and read the transcript to make sure we were hearing that right.

    I did read the Times at the football game though (none / 0) (#41)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Oct 08, 2016 at 09:39:01 AM EST
    They put out a statement that they were choosing to suspend some rules about the words they allow to be printed in their paper because they felt it was important to the issue addressed.

    My husband chooses not to get all Trumpy though.


    I want her to offer hims some tic-tacs. game over. (5.00 / 2) (#71)
    by ruffian on Sat Oct 08, 2016 at 05:33:58 PM EST
    as another poster said (none / 0) (#73)
    by ding7777 on Sat Oct 08, 2016 at 08:54:47 PM EST
    Hillary should wear a Scottish sporran

    not a thing "youthful" about it (none / 0) (#55)
    by Amiss on Sat Oct 08, 2016 at 12:47:48 PM EST
    he was 60 years old!

    The excuse (1.00 / 1) (#64)
    by KeysDan on Sat Oct 08, 2016 at 02:46:13 PM EST
    Henry Hyde gave his hypocritical excuse for adultery, while pursuing President Clinton, as "youthful indiscretion."   He was 41 at the time.  Trump, of course, was 60 at the time.Probably should have alerted to my snark.

    Amiss, (none / 0) (#80)
    by KeysDan on Wed Oct 12, 2016 at 11:37:54 AM EST
    not aware of the reason for the downgrading of my response to you, clarifying "youthful indiscretion" for Trump's actions when 60 years old. However, please know that my response was not intended in any way as trolling.

    Seeing Republicans spin (5.00 / 1) (#32)
    by Ga6thDem on Sat Oct 08, 2016 at 06:41:34 AM EST
    and scream about all this makes it pretty obvious the whole impeachment thing was just a farce as we all knew it was way back when.

    And it also shows how stupid the GOP is. Those idiots were focused on nothingburger emails while their own five alarm dumpster fire was going on.

    Yes, and poor Cruz. (5.00 / 1) (#34)
    by KeysDan on Sat Oct 08, 2016 at 07:26:02 AM EST
    His endorsement timing of Trump was a little off.

    Heck (none / 0) (#35)
    by Ga6thDem on Sat Oct 08, 2016 at 08:10:36 AM EST
    Cruz already threw his wife and father under the bus. So it's nothing to now throw himself under the bus.

    Yes, and it (5.00 / 1) (#38)
    by KeysDan on Sat Oct 08, 2016 at 08:47:00 AM EST
    will be difficult to get those tire marks off; same for Senator Ayotte, who sees Trump as a role model. Walk-backs get lost under the bus, too.

    Even though I don't like the gym, (5.00 / 1) (#33)
    by fishcamp on Sat Oct 08, 2016 at 06:58:31 AM EST
    I just can't wait to get there this morning.  Since the old Marine is suffering from cancer, and won't be there, I'll have to settle for the retired lawyer.  He has already given up on Trump, but I'll be interested in his ideas regarding Pence.  I'm loaded with info about Pence, and he will know that,  but I need to be careful to not offend the lawyer, since he really is a good guy.

    I always thought Cruz was worse than Trump (5.00 / 2) (#42)
    by jondee on Sat Oct 08, 2016 at 10:04:05 AM EST
    right from the beginning.

    Trump is like Sonny Corleone: the in-your-face known quantity. Cruz is Michael: the unctuous, calculating, snake in the grass, who, as an added bonus, also happens to believe he has God on his side.

    Cruz stuck his finger in the air and made the calculation that his career in "God is a Republican" country would be over if he didn't endorse Trump, and he's probably right.

    Though now it's looking like the HMS Trump might take everyone down with him. One can only hope.

    It's sad to admit that the next news stories (5.00 / 2) (#43)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Oct 08, 2016 at 10:09:51 AM EST
    I'm waiting to hear are the ones from the abused women who survived Trump's modeling agency.

    Some of Trump's (none / 0) (#44)
    by KeysDan on Sat Oct 08, 2016 at 10:16:07 AM EST
    Holy Men still have his back.   Ralph Reed believes all this ranks pretty low in Evangelicals hierarchy of concerns.  Tony Perkins says he isn't concerned, since he does not have shared values, anyway.  More important is Islamic terrorists (and Trump uses the name he prefers), Supreme Court justices, and withstanding all those attacks on religious liberty.

    Don't forget easy access to guns (5.00 / 1) (#46)
    by jondee on Sat Oct 08, 2016 at 10:25:39 AM EST
    ammo, and sniper scopes for Planned Parenthood shooters.

    We have one month left (none / 0) (#47)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Oct 08, 2016 at 10:25:42 AM EST
    Where the press will "focus". This may be the only sense of justice his victims may ever achieve. I have read that because he's so litigious that journalists speculate he's been able to suppress those he has assaulted.

    I saw where (none / 0) (#45)
    by Ga6thDem on Sat Oct 08, 2016 at 10:20:50 AM EST
    Martha Roby was unendorsing Trump and asking him to step down as the GOP nominee. Hugh Hewitt too but Hewitt says there's way more to come.

    I haven't looked at what's up with Roby (none / 0) (#48)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Oct 08, 2016 at 10:30:16 AM EST
    I find her reprehensible. Because I have been away from Colorado for so long they won't let me vote there. I am a military spouse and Colirado is MY home state. Too tired to fight about it. My husband's home state is Florida. I have sent in my paperwork to vote in Florida then as his spouse. I won't waste my vote in Alabama.

    She is reprehensible (none / 0) (#49)
    by Ga6thDem on Sat Oct 08, 2016 at 10:43:01 AM EST
    but I also saw where Sessions was advocating Trump drop out. Maybe she's following his lead though even with this I can't imagine Trump not carrying Alabama and Roby not being reelected.

    Alabama is I think maybe heading into (none / 0) (#50)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Oct 08, 2016 at 10:56:24 AM EST
    An emotional political crisis. It is hard for me to read most native Alabamians. Admittedly I do not understand the underpinnings of what motivates many of them. Piously elected Governor Bentley was discovered to have employed his lover (who is not his wife) as his highest paid aid. And he refuses to step down, impeachment talking every day while the house speaker is in jail, convicted of 12 felony ethics charges. Apparently regular church attendance is a guarantee of nothing. Most of those around me seem to be in the midst of emotional crisis discussing politics. They would talk Trump though...and now this?

    Regular church (5.00 / 2) (#51)
    by Ga6thDem on Sat Oct 08, 2016 at 11:31:21 AM EST
    attendance at an evangelical church seems to encourage this kind of stuff. After all as long as you are doing it in the name of Jesus all is well. If you're stealing or lying for Jesus all the better.

    The state has experienced a flurry (5.00 / 1) (#52)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Oct 08, 2016 at 12:00:37 PM EST
    Of church officials molesting children too. It seems like much of the nation spotted long ago that a predator can easily use an authoritarian church to harm children, and Alabama was once again decades behind.

    What will be (5.00 / 1) (#57)
    by The Addams Family on Sat Oct 08, 2016 at 01:27:17 PM EST
    the leading & dominant story on CNN for the next 24 hours?

    (a) p*ssy

    (b) Saudi strike kills 470+

    I'll go with (a), please. (5.00 / 2) (#68)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sat Oct 08, 2016 at 04:33:53 PM EST
    Our country's hypocritical neo-Victorianism when it comes to these matters will always win out in any such competition, especially since the victims in the opposing instance are not American. Last night, we were watching a nonstop parade of pundits and pols alike denouncing Trump on the cable news channels, all of which was punctuated by frequent commercials touting the benefits of Cyalis and Viagra.

    Great tweet by Kaili Joy Gray... (5.00 / 3) (#69)
    by vml68 on Sat Oct 08, 2016 at 04:51:09 PM EST
    Obviously, at this late stage, the GOP should be required to carry its nominee to term.

    McCain has (5.00 / 2) (#70)
    by KeysDan on Sat Oct 08, 2016 at 05:12:44 PM EST
    rescinded his endorsement of Trump.  And, more significantly, Tic Tac candies has denounced Trump.

    will this change a single vote? (none / 0) (#2)
    by The Addams Family on Fri Oct 07, 2016 at 08:32:42 PM EST
    maybe a single vote, or a couple here & there

    Cognitive dissonance requires (5.00 / 4) (#3)
    by Mr Natural on Fri Oct 07, 2016 at 08:47:56 PM EST

    But as far as expanding that base, which is somewhere at 35-40%, I'd say that's likely very problematic at this point. I fully expect a lot of current GOP elected officials to start breaking ranks in short order, especially after Sunday.

    To that effect, Speaker Ryan has just announced that Trump will NOT be traveling to Wisconsin, as was previously announced and planned. VP candidate Mike Pence will take his place. Probably a wise move on Ryan's part, since a joint appearance with Trump could potentially put his own Janesville seat in jeopardy.

    How's life in Oakland?


    lovely weather here, Donald (none / 0) (#5)
    by The Addams Family on Fri Oct 07, 2016 at 09:11:05 PM EST
    & yet a walk through the upscale Piedmont area reveals an almost total lack of political signage (exceptions: candidates for the school board, & Bernie Sanders)

    how's that mini-fullback of yours?


    I just visited with him in HNL Monday night. (5.00 / 2) (#16)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sat Oct 08, 2016 at 12:07:26 AM EST
    I had to fly to Honolulu for business, and spent the night. He's ten months old now, and is already pulling himself into a standing position and trying to walk. Not quite there yet, but no doubt he will be by Christmas. He's an inquisitive little guy and you really have to keep an eye on him, because he crawls very quickly and makes a beeline for anything that catches his eye.

    From having been such a huge 11-lb. baby at birth, he's now a normal-sized tot. Our old cat, who stayed at our townhouse with Elder Daughter and family when we made the move to Hilo, is extraordinarily patient with him, and seems to enjoy being manhandled by him although when she's finally had enough, she just walks away and hops up on her perch by the front window where he can't get to her.

    We've had very wet weather in Hilo of late, remnants of a Tropical Storm Ulii, which dumped about 12 inches on us last Sunday and Monday. When I flew out Monday afternoon, it was thunderstorming. But when I got to Honolulu, 220 miles and 45 minutes later, the sun was out and it was nice.

    Have a wonderful weekend.


    this is not an open thread (none / 0) (#25)
    by Jeralyn on Sat Oct 08, 2016 at 02:14:15 AM EST
    sorry but please stay on topic

    Trump canceled an appearance (none / 0) (#6)
    by Repack Rider on Fri Oct 07, 2016 at 09:12:08 PM EST
    ...with Ryan tomorrow.  But DT remains the elephant in the room, and Ryan will have to either distance himself from Trump, or distance himself from Trump.  The questions will all be on one subject, until he pulls the trigger.

    It will be interesting to see which of these options he chooses, and how he executes it.

    And then, of course, Ryan will have to hear from the "betrayed" base.  Orville Redenbacher will make a lot of money this fall.


    I just saw a cable news reporter (none / 0) (#53)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Oct 08, 2016 at 12:44:02 PM EST
    Who reported that a woman at this event started crying upon learning that Trump would not be there. She told the reporter though that at least she could see Mike Pence. The reporter told her Mike Pence was not coming either, only Paul Ryan would be there. She said good, then she can yell things at Paul Ryan.

    Yep - it will (none / 0) (#7)
    by Yman on Fri Oct 07, 2016 at 09:35:34 PM EST
    Watch the polls over the next few days.

    His Trumpettes move to victim blaming (5.00 / 1) (#37)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Oct 08, 2016 at 08:31:40 AM EST
    As women who have been without consent grabbed by the pu**y come forward....sigh, when women stoop to that for a buck it's depressing as hell.

    Query: How would Pence (none / 0) (#10)
    by MKS on Fri Oct 07, 2016 at 11:11:27 PM EST
    at top of ticket fare?

    Hillary needs to be ready to pivot really quickly.  


    Pence is just as repulsevue to women in his own (5.00 / 3) (#13)
    by ruffian on Fri Oct 07, 2016 at 11:37:28 PM EST
    way. If he becomes the focus there is plenty of ammo. No worries.

    Yes, did you see the viral tweet? (5.00 / 3) (#54)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Oct 08, 2016 at 12:46:12 PM EST
    If Donald Trump is the face of your rapist, Mike Pence is the face of every judge who made sure he got away with it.

    They did some (5.00 / 2) (#28)
    by Ga6thDem on Sat Oct 08, 2016 at 06:01:18 AM EST
    polling and Pence would lose. He has his own unexamined load of baggage that could be dropped.

    Most, if not all, states have already ... (none / 0) (#17)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sat Oct 08, 2016 at 12:15:19 AM EST
    ... printed their ballots, and absentee ballots are already being mailed to voters in a number of states. (The State of Hawaii mails ours out on Monday.) Because Trump's name will remain on the ballot at this point regardless of whatever such decision is made, it really won't help the GOP to have Trump quit, even if he was so inclined. That really needed to happen months ago. Short of Trump just dropping dead, not all states would necessarily go along with substituting Pence, in the event the former chooses to halt his campaign voluntarily.

    Got my ballot yesterday. Voting today in Florida (5.00 / 3) (#78)
    by Molly Bloom on Sun Oct 09, 2016 at 08:25:10 AM EST
    I also spent 4 hours making phone calls for Hillary as part of lawyers for Hillary.

    if Trump goes down (no pun, &c), (none / 0) (#18)
    by The Addams Family on Sat Oct 08, 2016 at 12:26:06 AM EST
    then Pence, as Trump's pick, would have no credibility at the top of the ticket

    the designated nominee would be Marco Rubio, but only if he promised to appoint Ted Cruz to the Supreme Court

    Pence would be sent back to fend for himself in the Hoosier State, where he would be primaried at the next opportunity


    Pence is done in Indiana. (5.00 / 2) (#22)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sat Oct 08, 2016 at 01:07:32 AM EST
    He was up for re-election this year, and bowed out to run for vice-president.

    Now that (none / 0) (#31)
    by TrevorBolder on Sat Oct 08, 2016 at 06:29:30 AM EST
    Would certainly be interesting.

    That will never happen. (5.00 / 1) (#58)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sat Oct 08, 2016 at 01:41:36 PM EST
    The time for Trump to have stood down and let someone else carry the GOP standard was early September at the latest. His name will remain on the ballot in all 50 states regardless of whether or not he suspends his campaign, because the ballots are already printed. It's further estimated that over a half-million people have already voted via mail and absentee ballot.

    Nope, Der Trumpenfuhrer's ship has long since sailed with a full complement of passengers and crew. The fact that it's now struck a mine, is taking on water and listing heavily to port, and is in imminent danger of capsizing and foundering altogether is the Republicans' problem, and not ours as Democrats.

    From a practical standpoint, the best Republicans can do right now is to disown Trump in  what would undoubtedly be a desperate effort to put as much distance between his candidacy and themselves by November 8. While a few Republicans down ballot have already decoupled, as of this writing most have not and further, it's very likely that they have no real intention of doing so.

    That's because Trump still commands the loyalty of at least 25-30 million hardcore supporters, and were he to somehow be muscled aside by the party brass, it's highly likely that those followers would abandon the GOP wholesale and not vote at all. Were that to happen, you can kiss GOP control of Congress and many state legislatures good-bye.

    Nearly every major Republican officeholder across the country who's standing for re-election this cycle continues to endorse and support Trump's candidacy. There's really no way to un-ring that bell, and they know it. All they can do right now is hunker down, ride the storm out and see what happens in four weeks.



    "politics ain't beanball" (none / 0) (#59)
    by The Addams Family on Sat Oct 08, 2016 at 01:49:36 PM EST
    I don't know why you would say (none / 0) (#60)
    by Peter G on Sat Oct 08, 2016 at 01:52:45 PM EST
    that the ship "is listing heavily to port."  Looks to me that this sinking ship is listing pretty heavily to starboard.

    You're right. I stand corrected. (5.00 / 1) (#66)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sat Oct 08, 2016 at 03:44:39 PM EST
    I guess that shoots down whatever pretensions I had of becoming a captain of a cruise ship, huh?

    Rhetorical Question (none / 0) (#19)
    by Repack Rider on Sat Oct 08, 2016 at 12:29:20 AM EST
    How would Pence at top of ticket fare?

    Like a deer in the headlights.  He didn't sign up for this $#!+.  Hey Ted, you said you wanted this, didn't you?

    The chaos would be overwhelming. There is no precedent.  No campaign team in place, like there is now with Kellianne Conway and Steve Bannon. /s  Hollywood couldn't sell a story this far out. Disaster for the GOP.

    Just the way I like it.


    No idea (none / 0) (#26)
    by Yman on Sat Oct 08, 2016 at 04:07:05 AM EST
    But I don't see any chance that the Donald would go quietly.  There would be chaos with his supporters (and the process).

    No idea (none / 0) (#27)
    by Yman on Sat Oct 08, 2016 at 04:07:05 AM EST
    But I don't see any chance that the Donald would go quietly.  There would be chaos with his supporters (and the process).

    The answer is yes (none / 0) (#63)
    by Repack Rider on Sat Oct 08, 2016 at 02:14:30 PM EST
    will this change a single vote?

    It already has.  Kelly Ayotte has stated that she will write in Pence, which is the same as giving Hillary another vote.

    I don't care whom they vote for, every Pence write-in or third party vote helps Hillary, and this recording is pushing the former Trump voters hard in those directions.


    GOP people (none / 0) (#8)
    by MKS on Fri Oct 07, 2016 at 11:05:31 PM EST
    are starting to unendorse.

    Much speculation that Trump may quit.  

    He won't quit (5.00 / 2) (#12)
    by Repack Rider on Fri Oct 07, 2016 at 11:25:04 PM EST
    ...because nobody tells HIM what to do.

    Besides, the ballots are already printed anyway.

    There is not enough popcorn in Iowa for this.


    Utah Mormons bailing (none / 0) (#9)
    by MKS on Fri Oct 07, 2016 at 11:09:42 PM EST
    Still shame for (none / 0) (#30)
    by KeysDan on Sat Oct 08, 2016 at 06:10:58 AM EST
    endorsing, no credit for un-endorsing. Trump's 90 second hostage apology along with Clinton derangement syndrome is likely to be enough to keep the deplorables in tow.  And, the establishment Republicans will be afraid to go much further than a stern letter, save for a few, such as in Utah and some in tight races who will un-endorse.

    Not a very flattering recording, Mr. Dbag. (none / 0) (#56)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Sat Oct 08, 2016 at 01:15:07 PM EST
    Maybe not quite as bad as the actual lewd actions of, say, a married president depositing his semen on a 27 years younger intern's dress in the Oval Office in just one of his 9, er, "encounters" with her. But, still, the recording is very damning.

    Right (5.00 / 2) (#62)
    by Repack Rider on Sat Oct 08, 2016 at 02:10:29 PM EST
    Maybe not quite as bad as the actual lewd actions of, say, a married president

    Because consensual sex between adults is exactly the same as sexual assault on an unwilling party.

    The lengths gone to and the logical contortions required to be a Republican are why I am not one of them.  I'm just not smart enough to rationalize the indefensible.

    It's almost as though Republicans think Bill Clinton is running for something.  How do they get this silly?  If it's a drug they take, I want some.


    well, there's probably more to come (none / 0) (#61)
    by The Addams Family on Sat Oct 08, 2016 at 02:00:12 PM EST
    but you make an interesting point

    what if the right reacted to Trump's vulgar words the same way the left reacted to Bill Clinton's acts in 1998?

    "it's only sex -- move on"

    trouble is, the right is too heavily invested in sanctimony & ersatz prudery to pull off a "move on" response to the sanctimony & ersatz prudery of the left in this instance

    & that's too bad, in a way, because Trump says "Pussy" & the media yells "Squirrel" as the world burns


    One problem here with this analogy, ... (5.00 / 2) (#67)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sat Oct 08, 2016 at 04:17:26 PM EST
    ... aside from the facts that the Clinton-Lewinsky liaisons were entirely consensual and that Bill Clinton is not on the ballot, is that Trump is actually facing a civil lawsuit from a woman who claims that he sexually assaulted her back in the 1990s, when she was a teenager. And yesterday, Federal Judge Ronnie Abrams ordered the case to proceed. So, we're not necessary talking about a behavioral aberration on Trump's part here.

    A better analogy might have been Juanita Broaddrick's allegations about being raped by Bill Clinton back in 1978, which were similarly raised well after the fact. But unlike this instance in which there is videotaped evidence of Trump's braggadocio, Broaddrick had changed her story so substantially from her initial deposition in the Paula Jones case that most reputable journalists who looked into her claims subsequently determined her to be entirely unreliable.

    But I'd offer a word of caution here, even as some of us admittedly revel in Schadenfreude. At this point, that 2005 videotape is really proof of nothing more than the fact that some vulgar and remarkably immature banter took place between two obviously grown men. Otherwise, there is no indication thus far that an actual sexual assault was ever committed by Trump in this particular instance.

    In the meantime, please pass the popcorn. This is going to be fun to watch.



    Let's play "What if...?" (5.00 / 2) (#72)
    by Repack Rider on Sat Oct 08, 2016 at 05:44:41 PM EST
    what if the right reacted to Trump's vulgar words the same way the left reacted to Bill Clinton's acts in 1998?

    See, that's their problem.  "The left" didn't care much about a consensual act that didn't affect the government, the RIGHT did.  The Right spent a couple of years trying to use it against a guy who left office more popular than "the right."

    And now it's not "the left" that is condemning Trump, because "the left" wasn't voting for him already, for a long list of reasons such as his stupidity, misogyny, criminal practices, etc.   We're just pointing and laughing while "the right" tears itself apart dealing with its own fallout.

    You understand, I hope, that the HRC campaign is probably feeding out these scandals at a measured rate, to keep "the right" playing defense and backing up all the way top the election.  Hillary has been the target of political attacks for 25 years, and now it must be fun to be laying the smack down on the GOP.

    Expect to see more of the same, and Trump gradually changing from orange to purple, while Hillary runs up the score.


    well, in point of fact, (none / 0) (#74)
    by The Addams Family on Sat Oct 08, 2016 at 10:18:20 PM EST
    "the right" was after Bill Clinton for perjury & obstruction of justice, & "the left" misrepresented that as "just [consensual] sex" from which everyone was urged to "move on"

    but, yeah


    I found your mistake (none / 0) (#75)
    by Repack Rider on Sun Oct 09, 2016 at 12:22:15 AM EST
    "the right" was after Bill Clinton for perjury & obstruction of justice

    In spite of the fact that he committed neither.  

    See, that was the problem with right-wing ignoramuses who make silly claims.  A CIVIL (not a criminal) action was settled out of court, and any related depositions were then moot, as though they had never taken place.  The lie that Mr. Clinton told had no relationship to the issue at hand, and was not perjury.

    But it helped the GOP waste millions of taxpayer dollars looking foolish and improving Mr. Clinton's popularity.  Not sure it was a good deal, but at least the taxpayers got SOMETHING.


    But the right BELIEVED that ... (5.00 / 2) (#76)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sun Oct 09, 2016 at 02:33:10 AM EST
    ... Bill Clinton committed perjury and obstruction of justice, and thus pursued him. The fact that there was no evidence to that effect was entirely immaterial to their quest, just as it's been with the GOP's Benghazi and email snipe hunts.

    I don't think that Addams herself was claiming that Bill Clinton committed a crime. She was only noting the rationale for the GOP right's relentless pursuit of him, to the point of causing themselves damage. At least, that's my perspective on her comment. And if I'm wrong, I'm sure she'll correct me.



    We're now in (none / 0) (#77)
    by Ga6thDem on Sun Oct 09, 2016 at 07:30:32 AM EST
    post facts America where facts don't matter, you can be completely cleared of charges and considered guilty for the rest of your life. Nobody exemplifies this better than Donald Trump who insists that the Central Park Five are still guilty despite DNA evidence having cleared them.

    no, you didn't (none / 0) (#79)
    by The Addams Family on Sun Oct 09, 2016 at 09:29:48 AM EST
    but Donald found yours