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Trump Campaign Expending Its Last Gasp for Life on Wiener

The Trump Campaign is expending its last gasp for life on Anthony Wiener and his wife. How pathetic, but typical.

I've spent the last day reading the FBI 350 page report on the emails and supporting documents like the FBI 302 of Huma Abedin's and Hillary Clinton's interviews, the transcripts of Comey's hours of testimony before the House Oversight Committee, and all the depositions(including Huma Abedin's) at Judicial Watch.

I don't know how many times you can say "There's nothing there." [More...]

Whatever device Huma used to read and print her forwarded emails from dozens of people including Hillary has little to do with Hillary. The misreporting out there is enormous. Huma didn't get immunity in the Clinton email probe. Cheryl Mills got immunity as to a computer she turned over, not for her statements to the FBI. Three emails referred to classified information in the body of an an email chain, which doesn't make it classified. It's supposed to be in the header. And it turns out two of the three weren't classified information. This isn't about emailing classified documents but people talking about things that may or may not have been classified at the time.

Hillary broke no rule or law by using a private email server. She didn't even have a computer in her office when she was Secretary of State.

Comey's handling of this was atrocious. I wonder why he went against the wishes of DOJ and the State Department to make such a nebulous announcement.

There is no reopening of the Clinton email/server investigation. There is a review of emails found on devices used by Huma and seized from Wiener. Chances are, they will all be duplicates of what the FBI already has. Only if there is not, and it pertains to possibly classified material, would the investigation be re-opened.

Shame on Comey for tarnishing the reputation of the FBI and its long history of not politicizing an election so close to Election Day. At least, tens if not hundreds of thousands of voters (myself included) have already voted.

There is a silver lining in all this: Complacent Dems sure that Hillary will win will no longer take it for granted. They will vote.

Donald can drain $10 million a day from his reserves to fund his flailing campaign. It won't matter.

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    I just want this campaign to be over. (5.00 / 4) (#1)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sat Oct 29, 2016 at 07:31:39 PM EST
    And then afterward, I want to see James Comey's head served up on a platter with an apple stuffed in his mouth. Our country can't afford to have an FBI director who goes rogue on the Justice Dept. and the Attorney General, who acts like he's a free agent, and who apparently thinks that rules and protocols don't apply to him. Per Matthew Miller, former Director of Public Affairs for the U.S. Dept. of Justice (2009-2011), writing in today's Washington Post:

    "With each step, Comey moved further away from department guidelines and precedents, culminating in Friday's letter to Congress. This letter not only violated Justice rules on commenting on ongoing investigations but also flew in the face of years of precedent about how to handle sensitive cases as Election Day nears.

    "Justice traditionally bends over backward to avoid taking any action that might be seen by the public as influencing an election, often declining to even take private steps that might become public in the 60 days leading up to an election. For an example, in one case of which I am aware, the FBI opened an investigation into a high-ranking public official shortly before an election but delayed sending any subpoenas until after the election for fear that they might leak and unfairly tarnish the official. Indeed, that investigation ultimately concluded with no charges.

    "Comey's subordinates have argued through anonymous quotes to reporters that he felt compelled to update Congress because of his previous explanations to them. But that just exposes how ill-advised his earlier statements were. Furthermore, even if he felt compelled to update Congress at some point, he could have followed Justice guidelines and done so after the election.

    "Supporters of the FBI director also argue that he would have been criticized had he withheld this information until after the election. But he didn't actually provide Congress or the public with any substantive information. Instead, he provided just enough detail to allow Republicans to make speculative charges about Clinton, but not enough to allow her to defend herself. In fact, in the hours since Comey's letter was released, media outlets have reported often-contradictory details about what the FBI is actually examining, another inevitable result of his actions.

    "This entire episode has exposed a troubling character flaw that calls into question Comey's very fitness to lead the FBI. He is without a doubt an outstanding lawyer and public servant. But as he has carefully nurtured his reputation for independence and integrity, he seems to have become intoxicated by the plaudits that have come his way. That praise has emboldened him to ignore the rules that apply to others, both because he believes in his own reputation and because he wants to thwart critics such as Republicans in Congress who might question it."

    (Emphasis is mine.)

    James Comey needs to go.

    Clinton Rules (5.00 / 1) (#17)
    by mm on Sun Oct 30, 2016 at 06:30:26 AM EST
    comey testimony to House Judiciary Committee September 28, 2016:
    Conyers: ... Is the fbi investigating the activities of mr. Trump or any advisor to the trump campaign with respect to any line of communication between the campaign and the russian government?

    comey: I cannot say sir. As as i said in response to different question we do not confirm or deny investigations.
    https:/www.c-span.org/video?...



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    Here's more Clinton Rules at work: (none / 0) (#94)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Tue Nov 01, 2016 at 02:27:56 PM EST
    After it lay dormant for more than a year, someone at the FBI suddenly reactivated one of its official Twitter accounts on Sunday, and yesterday someone also began downloading non-email-related Clinton files to its "FBI Vaults" webpage, including the case file on President Bill Clinton's pardon of the late financier Marc Rich.

    I'm sorry, but this is beyond mere coincidence. WTF is happening inside the FBI Building? President Obama and Attorney General Lynch need to shut these people down and set them straight.

    The GOP has effectively weaponized the FBI for political purposes. Not only must Comey now go, but a few of his colleagues likely need to be similarly escorted off the agency's premises with nothing but their personal belongings in a box, as well.

    The ghost of Richard Nixon still haunts our nation's capital city.

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    Nice speech, Donald (none / 0) (#2)
    by Mr Natural on Sat Oct 29, 2016 at 08:01:29 PM EST
    And when you recommend exiting an AG who met privately with candidate Clinton's Hubby, I'll go along.

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    If it was a private meeting (5.00 / 3) (#10)
    by Repack Rider on Sat Oct 29, 2016 at 09:33:25 PM EST
    ...How on earth do you know that it took place?

    There was a PUBLIC meeting while the two friends were waiting at an airport, that neither party attempted to conceal, but of course you would not be talking about that, you were talking about a private meeting that would not be public knowledge.

    You are correct that if the parties had wanted to meet without public knowledge, they could have.  But they didn't, at least as far as anyone knows.

    People who have nothing to hide, don't hide.  People who have guilt of their own, assume others are also guilty and ascribe guilt to ordinary activities.  Is that what we have here?  Why are YOU feeling so guilty?

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    Yea, it was (none / 0) (#20)
    by TrevorBolder on Sun Oct 30, 2016 at 07:32:19 AM EST
    A private meeting. Unfortunately for Lynch, it got out anyway.

    Christopher Sign, morning anchor at ABC15 in Phoenix, joined Bill O'Reilly to go over his bombshell report.

    Sign explained that he received a tip from a "trusted source" about the meeting and then met with management at the station.

    "Naturally my jaw dropped," he recalled.

    The meeting took place on a private tarmac at Phoenix's Sky Harbor International Airport, near where private aircraft take off and land.

    Sign said that a second source confirmed the information and they then asked Lynch about it at a news conference Wednesday.

    Lynch maintained that she did not discuss the investigation into Hillary Clinton's private email server or any other "cases" and that the former president didn't bring it up.

    Before leaving the city, Mr. Clinton apparently waited at the airport Monday night for Lynch to arrive, then boarded her plane for a 30-minute conversation.

    "The FBI there on the tarmac instructed everybody: no photos, no pictures, no cell phones," Sign explained.

    O'Reilly praised Sign and his station for doing excellent work to break the story.



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    ... that Mr. Clinton and Ms. Lynch met for a half-hour at Sky Harbor Int'l Airport. Offering up any further insinuations about the substance of their meeting is nothing more than trafficking in baseless innuendo.

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    Exactly (none / 0) (#36)
    by TrevorBolder on Sun Oct 30, 2016 at 03:16:12 PM EST
    Which is why Loretta Lynch then recused herself from making a decision on the matter and left it to Comey

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    "Magic Mirror" (none / 0) (#60)
    by Mr Natural on Sun Oct 30, 2016 at 06:34:59 PM EST
    Why? (5.00 / 2) (#12)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sat Oct 29, 2016 at 09:58:06 PM EST
    Loretta Lynch didn't do anything wrong. James Comey did, on multiple occasions. He needs to go.

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    Former Bush WH counsel Richard Painter ... (5.00 / 2) (#41)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sun Oct 30, 2016 at 03:40:49 PM EST
    ... disclosed in a New York Times op-ed today that he's filed a formal complaint against FBI Director James Comey with the Office of Special Counsel, charging that Comey likely violated the Hatch Act, which expressly prohibits federal officials from abusing the power and authority of their positions to engage in politically-related activities, or otherwise interfere in political events such as elections:

    "It is not clear whether Mr. Comey personally wanted to influence the outcome of the election, although his letter -- which cast suspicion on Mrs. Clinton without revealing specifics -- was concerning.

    "Also concerning is the fact that Mr. Comey has already made highly unusual public statements expressing his personal opinion about Mrs. Clinton's actions, calling her handling of classified information 'extremely careless,' when he announced this summer that the F.B.I. was concluding its investigation of her email without filing any charges.

    "But an official doesn't need to have a specific intent -- or desire -- to influence an election to be in violation of the Hatch Act or government ethics rules. The rules are violated if it is obvious that the official's actions could influence the election, there is no other good reason for taking those actions, and the official is acting under pressure from persons who obviously do want to influence the election.

    "Absent extraordinary circumstances that might justify it, a public communication about a pending F.B.I. investigation involving a candidate for public office that is made on the eve of an election is thus very likely to be a violation of the Hatch Act and a misuse of an official position.

    [...]

    "This is no trivial matter. We cannot allow F.B.I. or Justice Department officials to unnecessarily publicize pending investigations concerning candidates of either party while an election is underway. That is an abuse of power. Allowing such a precedent to stand will invite more, and even worse, abuses of power in the future."

    (Emphasis is mine.)

    Comey's gotta go.

    Harry Reid is invoking the Hatch Act (5.00 / 1) (#46)
    by Towanda on Sun Oct 30, 2016 at 04:33:57 PM EST
    on Comey for partisan influencing of an election.  

    Yeah, Dems can write letters, too.

    Leahy and other Senate Dems already were all over this, as well -- talking about a Leahy committee investigating just how Chaffetz knew to re-endorse Trump the day before Comey's letter to Chaffetz, who leaked the Comey letter to media before it was seen by Dems on his committee.

    (And neither Comey nor Chaffetz alerted Clinton's lawyer, a serious discourtesy and possibly worse than that.)

    I would not be surprised to soon see a wonderfully karmic call to seize Comey's computers and email accounts to see, as we used to say in the Watergate days, what Chaffetz knew and when he knew it . . . from Comey.  

    Obama (5.00 / 3) (#47)
    by Ga6thDem on Sun Oct 30, 2016 at 05:04:13 PM EST
    may have to end up appointing an independent counsel to investigate the Republicans in congress and Comey.

    Comey definitely knows he is in big trouble.

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    Comey Praises Brave F.B.I. Agents (5.00 / 1) (#75)
    by Mr Natural on Sun Oct 30, 2016 at 09:08:24 PM EST
    - Who Had to Touch Anthony Weiner's Computer

    - Borowitz, The New Yorker, October 28, 2016


    Read the transcript (2.33 / 3) (#21)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sun Oct 30, 2016 at 08:59:43 AM EST
    And you will find objections after objections to the questions.

    Podesta is trying to kid us.

    John Podesta, the chairman of the Clinton campaign, told reporters on a conference call that Abedin had been nothing but cooperative with investigators and sat for hours of depositions last summer as part of the civil lawsuit filed by Judicial Watch

    The tail has followed the cat home.

    I looked at (5.00 / 1) (#23)
    by MKS on Sun Oct 30, 2016 at 12:52:33 PM EST
    the transcript of the Judicial Watch deposition of Huma Abedin.  You do know that Judicial Watch are professional Clinton haters for decades, right?

    That deposition had nothing to do with the FBI.  It was not done by the FBI.  So it is irrelevant to what Huma told the FBI.

    As to the objections, Jimbo, you need to distinguish objections as to form, which are not ruled on until theoretically trial, and to which answers are nonetheless provided, and instructions to not answer questions.

    Jimbo, there were just a few instructions not to answer.   Most of the objections did not prevent actual answers from being given.  There was nothing particularly unusual or obstructive with the objections.  Standard legal stuff Jimbo.  Competent lawyering.  

    What is interesting is that you have linked to Breitbart and swallowed their propaganda whole.  That appears to be why you made this mistake in thinking a Judicial Watch depo has some relevance to what Huma told the FBI.

    No, Jimbo, Judicial Watch is not the FBI.

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    Just another instance (5.00 / 1) (#25)
    by MKS on Sun Oct 30, 2016 at 01:04:58 PM EST
    of giving an opinion on things you do not anything about, such as:

        1.  Visiting Latin America when you went to the Bahamas;
        2.  Ridiculously mis-stated traffic times in SoCal.

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    The cultural superiority (none / 0) (#28)
    by jondee on Sun Oct 30, 2016 at 01:17:16 PM EST
    of "Northern Europeans" from Der Fatherland..

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    Oh, God help me, (none / 0) (#29)
    by MKS on Sun Oct 30, 2016 at 01:27:23 PM EST
    I think I blocked that one from my memory.  

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    It was a deposition (none / 0) (#24)
    by TrevorBolder on Sun Oct 30, 2016 at 01:03:16 PM EST
    Under oath , in a court of law.

    So, you have no legal reason to tell the truth while under oath in a court. The Judge sitting on that case was quite incensed with State Department delays in providing responses to FOIA requests.

    I do not think he would take kindly to willful perjured testimony as well, I take it there are legal ramifications to giving false testimony under aoth in a court of law?


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    Non sequitur (none / 0) (#26)
    by MKS on Sun Oct 30, 2016 at 01:06:08 PM EST
    Jimbo was mad at the lawyer objections.   That has nothing to do with witness perjury.

    You leap mighty far, my friend.

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    And so he does. (none / 0) (#95)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Tue Nov 01, 2016 at 04:53:10 PM EST
    Meanwhile, some folks prefer (none / 0) (#22)
    by jondee on Sun Oct 30, 2016 at 10:35:32 AM EST
    to cast their votes for what the cat buried
    buried in the sandbox.

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    there is only a transcript of the (none / 0) (#90)
    by Jeralyn on Mon Oct 31, 2016 at 01:29:09 AM EST
    deposition, which was done by Judicial Watch, not the FBI. The FBI did not record her statement according to Comey. They never do record interviews. There's been a lot of criticism of that policy.

    The objections were raised by lawyers (hers and judidical watch, as being outside the permissible scope of the deposition or other ground. The objections were not by the FBI.

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    The takeaway? (none / 0) (#3)
    by Mr Natural on Sat Oct 29, 2016 at 08:02:29 PM EST
    When it has become clear that your husband is a loser, lose him.

    Sounds like (none / 0) (#4)
    by TrevorBolder on Sat Oct 29, 2016 at 08:34:46 PM EST
    Huma may be in serious legal trouble. She didn't get one of those immunity cards they were handing out.

    Comey did not play partisan politics with the Ashcroft hospital episode,
    And gave the "clean bill" of health in July, again not partisan politics

    So, everyone thinks he bent to the pressure of partisan politics on this latest round?

    I would tend to doubt it, but I have no idea. Will have to let this one play itself out.

    Now his book, whenever it comes out , is one I am looking forward to.

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    The only way (5.00 / 4) (#5)
    by Ga6thDem on Sat Oct 29, 2016 at 08:42:02 PM EST
    Huma may be in trouble is if she didn't tell the FBI about all her email accounts. If she told them about all her email accounts then all this is going to be is a duplicate.

    You need to reread about the Ashcroft hospital episode. He later signed the document he refused but he wanted to do it on his own terms because he's smarter and better than anybody else he believes.

    What Comey did in July and what has created so much trouble for him is he spent time editorializing about the case which is against DOJ protocol. The fact that he has broken DOJ protocol twice is the reason he is in such hot water. He even went against the wishes of his boss but then that boss is a woman. He obviously has serious problems with women in authority positions. You are supposed to not comment. Anyway he's completely destroyed any reputation he has and unfortunately he's trashed the reputation of the FBI. Who would ever deal with the FBI after seeing all this play out with Comey? You would have to be a fool to cooperate with them.

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    she told them about all her emails accounts (none / 0) (#83)
    by Jeralyn on Sun Oct 30, 2016 at 11:31:49 PM EST
    From the FBI 302 of her interview (Page 2 of 11):

    ABEDIN provided that she was issued an official DoS email account, abedinh@state.gov, which she used for DoS related work. She also had an email account that was provided by CLINTON, huma@clintonemail.com, which she used for matters related to CLINTON's personal affairs and to communicate with CLINTON's personal staff and friends. ABEDIN also had a personal Yahoo email account. ABEDIN could access her clintonemail.com account and her Yahoo account via the internet on the unclassified DoS computer system. She would use these accounts if her DoS account was down or if she needed to print an email or document. ABEDIN further explained that it was difficult to print from the DoS system so she routinely forwarded emails to her non-DoS accounts so she could more easily print. ABEDIN also had another email account that she had previously used to support her husband's campaign activities.


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    "Sounds like" ... (none / 0) (#6)
    by Yman on Sat Oct 29, 2016 at 08:57:31 PM EST
    Sounds like Huma may be in serious legal trouble.

    ... you have no evidence,  no facts and no clue, so you're just making $hit up.

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    Didn't she interview (none / 0) (#7)
    by TrevorBolder on Sat Oct 29, 2016 at 09:00:10 PM EST
    With the FBI,

    And tell them she handed over all devices that held any e mails. Hmm, but she didn't.

    Holding 10k e mails from the State Department, while no longer a employee of the State Department, without even knowing what is on the  emails, is another matter altogether

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    They are not (5.00 / 1) (#8)
    by Ga6thDem on Sat Oct 29, 2016 at 09:11:39 PM EST
    original emails. They were forwards and duplicates. So that's not exactly "holding" emails. Trevor, one of these days you're going to get something right about this case but apparently not any time soon.

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    Lol (none / 0) (#15)
    by TrevorBolder on Sun Oct 30, 2016 at 05:48:22 AM EST
    You are not serious , are you?
    So, forwards and duplicates are ok.
    I will feel safe saying no, it isn't ok.

    And it was devices also, the FBI asked for all devices that held  e mails,

    Weren't the FBI reports of interviews released?

    I have read it in articles stating that she stated to the FBI she turned over all devices that held any State Department e mails.

    I would guess there is some legal jeopardy there.

    Man oh man. What a mess. I would hope Comey comes out with some statement this week


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    Where are you getting your info as to (5.00 / 2) (#32)
    by ruffian on Sun Oct 30, 2016 at 02:45:07 PM EST
    what she did or did not tell the FBI, the circumstances of her interview, etc? Really, I have not seen that released from Comey or the FBI.

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    The FBI released the (5.00 / 1) (#82)
    by Jeralyn on Sun Oct 30, 2016 at 11:23:06 PM EST
    interview reports and a 350 page report of the whole investigation with everyone's interviews.

    See here and here. The 11 page report of Huma's interview is in them. The Judicial Watch deposition is also online. (I have it downloaded and don't recall the link.) Comey's testimony is here.

    I disagree with Trevor's interpretation. She did not commit perjury or anything close.

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    Pardon (1.00 / 1) (#37)
    by TrevorBolder on Sun Oct 30, 2016 at 03:18:25 PM EST
    It was her deposition under oath on the Judicial Watch FOIA lawsuit.
    But I would imagine she would be consistent with a deposition under oath, and her interview with the FBI. If she digressed on either, she is making false statements to the FBI, or perjured herself under oath.

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    Where specifically in said deposition ... (5.00 / 1) (#45)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sun Oct 30, 2016 at 04:05:17 PM EST
    ... did Ms. Abedin perjure herself? Think very carefully now, before you speak.

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    Here (none / 0) (#48)
    by TrevorBolder on Sun Oct 30, 2016 at 05:27:14 PM EST
    But the new information that the FBI found State Department-related email on her home laptop also calls into question whether Abedin in fact turned over all of the devices she used to send and receive email while working at State.  

    On June 28, 2016, Abedin said under oath in a sworn deposition that she looked for all devices that she thought contained government work on them so the records could be given to the State Department. (These records were subsequently reviewed by the FBI.)

    "How did you go about searching for what records you may have in your possession to be returned to the State Department?" Attorney Ramona Cotca for Judicial Watch asked her.

    "I looked for all the devices that may have any of my State Department work on it and returned -- returned -- gave them to my attorneys for them to review for all relevant documents. And gave them devices and paper," Abedin answered.



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    Not the FBI (5.00 / 1) (#81)
    by MKS on Sun Oct 30, 2016 at 11:13:49 PM EST
    Are you really that dense?

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    that's not from the deposition that (5.00 / 1) (#89)
    by Jeralyn on Mon Oct 31, 2016 at 01:24:35 AM EST
    is an account of her deposition written by someone using a selected quote from the deposition. Did you read the whole deposition? I did.

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    And of course, there's no link provided, ... (none / 0) (#91)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Mon Oct 31, 2016 at 04:11:20 AM EST
    ... so you have no way of knowing the source. It's The Daily Beast.

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    You "would imagine" ... (none / 0) (#69)
    by Yman on Sun Oct 30, 2016 at 08:05:06 PM EST
    Yeah.

    That's about all you do.

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    You do not know anything of the sort (none / 0) (#80)
    by MKS on Sun Oct 30, 2016 at 11:13:21 PM EST
    You are just guessing.

    What bullcrap.

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    Trevor doesn't have any sources for that ... (none / 0) (#34)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sun Oct 30, 2016 at 03:00:24 PM EST
    ... except for whatever wishful and fact-free speculation he's hearing on wingbat media.

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    she didn't give the FBI any devices (5.00 / 1) (#84)
    by Jeralyn on Sun Oct 30, 2016 at 11:33:00 PM EST
    She gave two laptops and a Blackberry to her lawyers who reviewed the material on them for relevant emails and provided the emails to the State Department.

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    Yeah, I'm sure you've (none / 0) (#16)
    by Ga6thDem on Sun Oct 30, 2016 at 05:58:16 AM EST
    read the Breitbart Story on all this. LOL. Whatever. Like I said one of these days you'll figure out how to understand what is going on. You've put reams and reams of wrong information here. Why stop now? ROTFLMAO.

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    You are too funny (none / 0) (#18)
    by TrevorBolder on Sun Oct 30, 2016 at 07:28:23 AM EST
    Transcript of Abedins Judicial Watch deposition, under oath.
    http://tinyurl.com/gl5ojeg

    But the new information that the FBI found State Department-related email on her home laptop also calls into question whether Abedin in fact turned over all of the devices she used to send and receive email while working at State.  
    On June 28, 2016, Abedin said under oath in a sworn deposition that she looked for all devices that she thought contained government work on them so the records could be given to the State Department. (These records were subsequently reviewed by the FBI.)

    http://tinyurl.com/htdt44r

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    Has nothing to do with the FBI (5.00 / 1) (#30)
    by MKS on Sun Oct 30, 2016 at 01:35:19 PM EST
    Friends should not let friends swallow Breitbart whole.

    The Judicial Watch deposition was done as part of their FOIA lawsuit.  It has nothing to do with the FBI; what Huma told the FBI; what Huma gave to the FBI.  The Judicial Watch is not the FBI.

    You are referring to testimony about what Huma gave her lawyers in order to respond to  the FOIA issues.  Giving something to her lawyers, or not giving something to her lawyers as part of a FOIA issue, is not the same thing as responding to the FBI.  So, even if Huma withheld info in the FOIA lawsuit (which is what you are suggesting), it would have no relevance to what she told or gave to the FBI.  

    Judicial Watch is not a proxy for the FBI.  Got it?

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    Given that nobody knows ... (5.00 / 2) (#33)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sun Oct 30, 2016 at 02:55:40 PM EST
    ... what emails exactly are on that laptop, which has been admitted by no less than the FBI director himself, your insinuation that Huma Abedin committed perjury is entirely nonsensical.

    Those emails may be of a personal nature, and thus would have nothing whatsoever to do with her work at the State Dept. and would not fall under the scope of the investigation.

    Regardless of whatever you might otherwise believe, the FBI doesn't have the unilateral right to engage in a snipe hunt, and no federal judge worth his or her credentials will allow that to take place.

    Aloha.

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    Pursuant to the (none / 0) (#39)
    by TrevorBolder on Sun Oct 30, 2016 at 03:28:41 PM EST
    FBI investigation of Anthony Weiner, led by Phreet Bhaara, a laptop, and or other devices were taken by FBI agents. FBI agents then alerted Comey that their investigation of Weiner may have uncovered more e mails relating to the Clinton e mail investigation. Now how do you think they figured that out.

    But you are correct, if this is a snipe hunt, and the Comey released that bombshell of a statement , with no probable cause that information pertaining to the Clinton e mail investigation, and that none are found, then Abedin is in the clear.

    I will go with the odds that Comey is not that big a fool to enter the election debate unless there are e mails relevant to the Clinton case there.


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    You would (5.00 / 1) (#42)
    by Ga6thDem on Sun Oct 30, 2016 at 03:42:10 PM EST
    be mistaken to think that Comey was not a fool. He didn't even know what his own FBI report said. If any integrity is going to be restored to the FBI he needs to go but he is going to be investigated for violations of the Hatch Act. He's a self righteous fool that thinks he can do whatever he wants. If Huma told the FBI of all her email accounts then they have already been gone through. What you have to realize is that if they are Yahoo accounts Yahoo will have the email and the FBI would already have gone through those.

    Kind of ironic that Comey thinks having a stooge for Putin would be a good idea as president.

    Comey is a afraid and he's attempting to spin his way out of this one. He knows he's in trouble.

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    The FBI will look like fools (none / 0) (#40)
    by McBain on Sun Oct 30, 2016 at 03:39:51 PM EST
    if they don't charge someone with something and have the evidence to back it up.
    I will go with the odds that Comey is not that big a fool to enter the election debate unless there are e mails relevant to the Clinton case there.

    That is the logical assumption, although, not a popular one here.  If it turns out there isn't anything worthy of charges and Trump wins a close election, the FBI will be absolutely hated by half of America.

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    Lol (none / 0) (#50)
    by TrevorBolder on Sun Oct 30, 2016 at 05:31:28 PM EST
    They will be hated by half of America regardless of the outcome.

    However I do not think they have to charge anyone , but there had best be e mails relevant to Abedin's time at the State Department to justify Comey's intrusion into the election

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    That's not a "logical assumption" (none / 0) (#70)
    by Yman on Sun Oct 30, 2016 at 08:09:06 PM EST
    Merely baseless speculation and wishful thinking ...

    ... as usual.

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    trevor you are mixed up (5.00 / 1) (#88)
    by Jeralyn on Mon Oct 31, 2016 at 01:23:02 AM EST
    She didn't give her computers to the State Dept or FBI. She wasn't asked to. The State Dept wanted to make sure she hadn't retained any work emails so she gave two laptops and a blackberry (according to Judicial Watch deposition) to her lawyers to review and they chose the emails to return to the State Dept. In the FBI interview, it says her lawyers asked the State Dept for guidance and didn't receive a response. She said she assumed her lawyers were thorough. Her lawyers told her they erred on the side of caution.

    If she didn't recall also having used Wiener's computer to open her forwarded mail on her personal accounts, that's a mistake, not a crime, there's no intent to commit a crime established by her deposition testimony. Being wrong isn't a crime.

    That you don't believe her isn't the test.

    In any event, this has nothing to do with Hillary.

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    Well (none / 0) (#92)
    by TrevorBolder on Mon Oct 31, 2016 at 04:37:52 AM EST
    Comey and the FBI believe it might, thus the search warrant and the letter to Congress.

    What the FBI will be looking for are new e mails, the ones that Madame Sec deleted (the 35k).

    If Abedin regularly , or mistakenly, forwarded e mails to an account, and printed them, and never deleted them, the FBI might find the yoga routine and wedding e mails that Madame Sec said she deleted.

    With that many e mails on the hard drive, just maybe Abedin never deleted anything.

    It provides the FBI an opportunity to find the Bleach Bit e mails

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    It was not about (5.00 / 1) (#9)
    by Ga6thDem on Sat Oct 29, 2016 at 09:12:58 PM EST
    devices. It was about email accounts. As long as she told them all the email accounts she had the FBI can access all the emails. The device does not matter. Again, you are totally wrong on this.

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    You have no idea what you're talking about. (5.00 / 3) (#13)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sat Oct 29, 2016 at 10:13:31 PM EST
    Since you weren't there, you were hardly privy to what Ms. Abedin said or didn't say. And since the FBI has apparently yet to obtain a warrant, they don't know how many emails there are or what their content might include.

    You know what that means, Trevor? It means that you're just as clueless about this as James Comey, when he implied to Congress yesterday that the emails may be "pertinent" to the prior Clinton server investigation.

    When you don't know, you don't assume.

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    "Didn't she"? - heh (5.00 / 2) (#14)
    by Yman on Sun Oct 30, 2016 at 05:37:27 AM EST
    You gotta love accusations in the gotten of "questions".  Do wingers do that because they desperately want to make an accusation but realize they have absolutely no evidence to back it up?  Do they not realize how transparent it is?  Or is it because they watch too much Fox "News" and they're just mimicking what they see?

    Heh.

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    Trevor (5.00 / 2) (#19)
    by Ga6thDem on Sun Oct 30, 2016 at 07:31:12 AM EST
    it has now come to light that yes, Huma told the FBI about using that laptop in April. So for six months the FBI has known about all this. They saw no reason to go into that laptop at that time.

    Wow, this is really blowing up on the GOP. Comey is probably going to be indicted under the Hatch Act and he has completely destroyed the credibility of an entire law enforcement agency one fell swoop. I don't know if Chaffetz can be prosecuted or not. Remains to be seen.

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    page 8 of the FBI 302 (5.00 / 1) (#85)
    by Jeralyn on Sun Oct 30, 2016 at 11:36:28 PM EST
    on Huma's interview:

    ABED IN provided that she learned that DoS was seeking her emails after she read about it in the newspaper. DoS wanted ABED IN's emails as part of an effort to ensure that DoS had a complete record of documents from CLINTON's tenure. ABED IN contacted DoS and confirmed that it was seeking her emails. She noted that DoS' prior attempts to contact her were unsuccessful because DoS had an old email account and an old mailing address on file. ABEDIN then turned over her laptop and Blackberry to her attorneys so that they could conduct the review. ABED IN was not directly involved in the review and relied on the judgment of her attorneys. RODRIGUEZ and DUNN stated that they sought additional guidance from DoS on how the review should be conducted but they never received a response.

    RODRIGUEZ and DUNN therefore erred on the side of caution and opted to include anything that they
    were unsure about. It was also noted that ABED IN had previously responded to a similar request from the Benghazi Committee.

    I doubt Comey will be indicted but I think he should resign.

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    Well, a boy can dream. (none / 0) (#11)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sat Oct 29, 2016 at 09:56:05 PM EST
    So, dream on.

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    I would think Huma may be in some trouble (none / 0) (#27)
    by Green26 on Sun Oct 30, 2016 at 01:11:42 PM EST
    based on this interesting WA Post article today.

    "...Abedin has told people she is unsure how her emails could have ended up on a device she viewed as her husband's computer..."

    "even when she agreed to turn over emails to the State Department for federal records purposes, her lawyers did not search it for materials"

    "investigators found thousands of messages on Weiner's computer that they believe to be potentially relevant to the separate, Clinton email investigation."

    "When Abedin left the State Department, she signed a statement saying she had "surrendered to responsible officials all controlled or administratively controlled documents and materials with which I was charged or which I had in my possession." The State Department -- in the process of collecting Clinton's and others for records and Freedom of Information Act purposes -- later asked Abedin to turn over relevant messages, and she gave her laptop and BlackBerry for review."

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    Huma is only (none / 0) (#31)
    by MKS on Sun Oct 30, 2016 at 01:42:30 PM EST
    in trouble if she lied to the FBI.  No evidence of that.

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    So she gets a mulligan (1.00 / 1) (#38)
    by TrevorBolder on Sun Oct 30, 2016 at 03:19:19 PM EST
    If she lied under oath in Federal Court?

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    Show me where she lied (5.00 / 1) (#43)
    by MKS on Sun Oct 30, 2016 at 03:44:28 PM EST
    We were talking about disclosure of emails, not perjured testimony in the Judicial Watch case, until you changed the subject.  

    Show me the lie.  Quote from the deposition transcript question and answer verbatim, and then show it is false.  Otherwise, you have nothing relevant to say.

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    How can this signed statement of hers (none / 0) (#51)
    by Green26 on Sun Oct 30, 2016 at 05:42:32 PM EST
    possibly be true, if a thousand or so emails have been found on the computer that she and her husband used? She didn't "surrender" "documents or materials" "in her possession". See below.

    "she signed a statement saying she had "surrendered to responsible officials all controlled or administratively controlled documents and materials with which I was charged or which I had in my possession." The State Department -- in the process of collecting Clinton's and others for records and Freedom of Information Act purposes -- later asked Abedin to turn over relevant messages, and she gave her laptop and BlackBerry for review."


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    If they are duplicates (none / 0) (#53)
    by MKS on Sun Oct 30, 2016 at 05:46:53 PM EST
     

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    Enough already, Trevor. (5.00 / 2) (#44)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sun Oct 30, 2016 at 04:00:00 PM EST
    You are offering a vile insinuation about Huma Abedin's conduct by suggesting that she's perjured herself and / or lied to federal investigators, which as of this writing has absolutely no basis in fact.

    Disguising your assertion in the form of a question doesn't render such a backhanded smear any less egregious or repugnant. You have no right to impugn a witness's character and integrity, simply because they so happen to be in the public eye.

    You've made your opinion known about this matter, and that's fine. But unless you have actual evidence to support your position, which thus far you've failed to produce, please stop belaboring it. That's called concern trolling.

    Aloha.

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    Donald, do you think she (none / 0) (#52)
    by Green26 on Sun Oct 30, 2016 at 05:46:26 PM EST
    surrendered "all" documents in her possession, as she said in her State Dept statement?

    If there are a thousand pertinent emails on that computer, how could she not have remembered that many emails?

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    As long as she (5.00 / 1) (#58)
    by Ga6thDem on Sun Oct 30, 2016 at 05:57:41 PM EST
    told the FBI about all her email accounts they are all going to be duplicates. You have to remember a lot of these emails went to numerous people and were on their accounts too. The FBI could have gotten copies from yahoo etc. They don't have to have the device.

    Comey is in a lot of trouble. He has an insurrection on his hands in the ranks of the FBI and now probably a special counsel is going to have to be appointed because of his mismanagement of this. Nobody will trust the FBI to tell the truth about this whatever they say. Their reputation has been trashed by Comey.

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    For FOIA (none / 0) (#54)
    by MKS on Sun Oct 30, 2016 at 05:48:12 PM EST
    what reason would there be to produce duplicates?

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    Huma often (5.00 / 1) (#55)
    by MKS on Sun Oct 30, 2016 at 05:48:56 PM EST
    forwarded emails to her own computer to print them out.  Thus, many duplicates.  

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    FOIAs generate reams of paper (5.00 / 1) (#67)
    by Mr Natural on Sun Oct 30, 2016 at 07:21:10 PM EST
    My experience, being on the requesting end, is that nobody sorts anything.  Every instance of data matching the request pattern is part of the resulting avalanche.

    They'll do anything to make it more difficult.

    Providing photocopies of printouts instead of the original electronic document (which is searchable and indexable) is always the first step in effing the taxpayer.  FWIW

    I know nothing about the current contretemps.  Strangely enough, that means I know slightly more than most of the people shouting at each other about it.

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    ... you also charge them $0.50 - $1.00 per page for the photocopy. That's what some state agencies out here were doing, until we amended the law to prohibit them from attempting to thwart or impede the efforts of people who are exercising their legal right to obtain otherwise public information.

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    MKS, some requests (none / 0) (#62)
    by Green26 on Sun Oct 30, 2016 at 06:45:44 PM EST
    are written broadly enough to included duplicates. Sometimes what is thought to be a duplicate really isn't, because the chain contains other emails not in other similar chains. Also, when hard copies are involved, people sometimes have made notes or markings on the hard copies, and those are supposed to be produced.

    If no one looked at the apparently 1,000 or 1,000s of pertinent emails on this computer, no one could possibly know if they are all duplicates.

    Again, how does Huma not know how this many emails got onto this computer? Can she possibly be being truthful, if she has said that? How could she have not remembered this computer contained lots of emails, including, apparently, emails to/from Hillary's email server?

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    You do not know (none / 0) (#78)
    by MKS on Sun Oct 30, 2016 at 11:08:53 PM EST
    And, yes, I understand document productions....

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    Enough already (none / 0) (#56)
    by TrevorBolder on Sun Oct 30, 2016 at 05:51:48 PM EST
    Donald from Hawaii.

    Your sanctimonious preening from your perch as self anointed Sir Donald, Protector of the Blog, is nauseating.

    Please just deal with the facts.

    Abedin gave a deposition under oath in a Federal court case that she turned over all e mails and devices that contained  e mails.

    Obviously, not true.

    However based upon this Justice Departments approach to date, her digressions very well might be ignored.

    http://tinyurl.com/z75nrgr

    Although Scooter Libby did not fare to well

    In March, Libby, who is known as Scooter, was convicted of lying to law enforcement agents and obstructing the investigation of how a CIA agent's identity was made public.

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    Make it clear (5.00 / 1) (#79)
    by MKS on Sun Oct 30, 2016 at 11:11:25 PM EST
    that the deposition had nothing to do with the FBI.  Yes, I understand this is Breitbart's argument, but what is relevant is what Huma told or gave the FBI.

    You are assuming guilt here based on speculation.  Nice job.

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    What if Huma's email was hacked (none / 0) (#68)
    by ding7777 on Sun Oct 30, 2016 at 08:04:50 PM EST
    by Weiner? And Weiner downloaded all of her emails to his laptop.  Would that satisfy your "perjury" concerns?

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    I honestly thought (none / 0) (#76)
    by pitachips on Sun Oct 30, 2016 at 09:38:39 PM EST
    Maybe he had access to her email and was snooping. He is definitely sleazy enough.

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    Yes (none / 0) (#77)
    by TrevorBolder on Sun Oct 30, 2016 at 10:22:07 PM EST
    It would be an explanation

    A creative one, but still an explanation

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    And, inquiring minds want to know, (none / 0) (#59)
    by Mr Natural on Sun Oct 30, 2016 at 06:27:04 PM EST
    how many of those contain d*** pix?

    Now that (none / 0) (#64)
    by TrevorBolder on Sun Oct 30, 2016 at 07:12:26 PM EST
    Was the original reason for taking the laptop

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    comment stating as fact (none / 0) (#86)
    by Jeralyn on Sun Oct 30, 2016 at 11:38:55 PM EST
    how many emails are on Weiner's computer was deleted. That's speculation or unconfirmed leak, not to be confused with fact.

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    From the Wall St. Journal article (none / 0) (#61)
    by Green26 on Sun Oct 30, 2016 at 06:38:55 PM EST
    linked in this thread, i.e. the one saying there are 650,000 emails on that computer. By the way, the warrant to search for Clinton stuff was obtained over the weekend.

    "In their initial review of the laptop, the metadata showed many messages, apparently in the thousands, that were either sent to or from the private email server at Mrs. Clinton's home that had been the focus of so much investigative effort for the FBI. Senior FBI officials decided to let the Weiner investigators proceed with a closer examination of the metadata on the computer, and report back to them.

    At a meeting early last week of senior Justice Department and FBI officials, a member of the department's senior national-security staff asked for an update on the Weiner laptop, the people familiar with the matter said. At that point, officials realized that no one had acted to obtain a warrant, these people said.

    Mr. McCabe then instructed the email investigators to talk to the Weiner investigators and see whether the laptop's contents could be relevant to the Clinton email probe, these people said. After the investigators spoke, the agents agreed it was potentially relevant."


    Apparently (5.00 / 2) (#63)
    by Ga6thDem on Sun Oct 30, 2016 at 06:53:17 PM EST
    that's a dump by Comey trying to save his job. Apparently things were not sent from Hillary's account but Huma's account to another yahoo account so she could print out the emails.

    Seriously senior Republican and Democratic former DOJ officials are enraged at Comey's behavior. He has no idea if there's anything at all to this but he did it because he wanted to interfere in an election. Hopefully most voters will it that way and won't let orange fascism and Putin's puppet take over the country.

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    Why would anyone download (none / 0) (#96)
    by ding7777 on Tue Nov 01, 2016 at 06:11:15 PM EST
    650,000 emails?

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    Well, get ready (none / 0) (#71)
    by Ga6thDem on Sun Oct 30, 2016 at 08:09:28 PM EST
    According to BTD the right wing FBI agents are going to be leaking misinformation to the media. They are desperate. The GOP must be destroyed on November 8th. There is just no other answer.

    Was someone in the FBI leaking (none / 0) (#72)
    by ding7777 on Sun Oct 30, 2016 at 08:11:10 PM EST
    to Trump back in August?
    "I only worry for the country in that Hillary Clinton was careless and negligent in allowing Weiner to have such close proximity to highly classified information. Who knows what he learned and who he told?"


    Your silly speculation ... (none / 0) (#73)
    by Yman on Sun Oct 30, 2016 at 08:13:37 PM EST
    ... innuendo and baseless smears are not "facts".

    Kelly Anne (none / 0) (#93)
    by FlJoe on Mon Oct 31, 2016 at 09:36:34 AM EST
    Pertinence of Huma's emails, especially (none / 0) (#97)
    by thomas rogan on Wed Nov 02, 2016 at 05:28:49 PM EST
    Some of us have always thought that the reason that Hillary Clinton used a private email server which could be "wiped clean" (with a cloth?) was to hide corruption with the Clinton Foundation and pay for play.  That is the second piece of the FBI investigation.  Huma Abedin's emails could blast this investigation wide open.  
    According to Wikipedia:
    In 2009, Abedin was appointed deputy chief of staff to Clinton in the State Department,[17] under a "special government employee" arrangement created by the department which allowed her to work for private clients as a consultant while also serving as an adviser to the Secretary of State.[18] Under this arrangement, she did consultant work for Teneo, a strategic consulting firm whose clients included Coca-Cola and MF Global,[18] and served as a paid consultant to the Clinton Foundation, while continuing her role as body woman to Clinton.[18]

    More ridiculous fairy tales (none / 0) (#99)
    by Yman on Wed Nov 02, 2016 at 05:37:15 PM EST
    "Some of us" believe the earth is flat.  "Some of us" think the moon landing was faked.  "Some of us" bought the "Clinton Chronicles" on VHS.

    Do you really think "some of us" makes your claim sound more credible?  Do you really think a Wikipedia entry that doesn't even support your smears is evidence?

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    Clinton Foundation should fold (none / 0) (#98)
    by thomas rogan on Wed Nov 02, 2016 at 05:31:48 PM EST
    Is there anyone who reads this blog who really thinks that the Clinton Foundation should continue to operate if Hillary is elected?  Why not fold it into the Gates or Buffett foundations, in effect doing good works as a "blind trust".  As it is, any donor to a "Clinton Foundation" where the daughter of the president sits on the board is almost certainly currying favor.  Adding insult to injury, it's a tax deductible bribe since it is a "foundation".

    I do (none / 0) (#100)
    by Yman on Wed Nov 02, 2016 at 05:39:50 PM EST
    Anything else you need help with?

    BTW - You need to look up the definition of the word "bribe".  You're using it wrong.

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    Okay. The desperation (none / 0) (#102)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Nov 02, 2016 at 09:47:26 PM EST
    appears to be dripping off the GOP right now. It's flop sweat time so start slinging hash.

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    BTW - You realize they've already announced (none / 0) (#101)
    by Yman on Wed Nov 02, 2016 at 05:44:24 PM EST