Post Debate Analysis: "You Cannot Polish This Turd"

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Posted on Wed Oct 19, 2016 at 09:51:07 PM EST
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CNN/ORC poll results: Hillary won the debate 52% to 39% for Donald Trump

Trump's campaign manager, Kellyanne Conway, was incoherent and blubbering during her post-debate interview with CNN's Dana Bash. She got so flustered, she walked out on the interview. First she said Donald Trump would respect the results because he is going to win. It went downhill from there.

The media is unanimous: Trump blew himself up like a suicide bomber in refusing to say he will accept the results of the election.

Bye, Bye Mr. Carnival Barker. Even NBC and the Apprentice won't take you back. May your brand sink like quicksand.

CNN's Van Jones: "You cannot polish this turd."

Channel changer time: Some blonde in a strawberry colored dress with a high-pitched whiny voice is rattling on like a speed-freak. Bye CNN.

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Kellyanne should be done in politics. (5.00 / 3) (#1)
by Ga6thDem on Wed Oct 19, 2016 at 09:53:46 PM EST

The GOP needs to do something about their conspiracy addled voting base but not my circus not my monkeys.

she was never in politics (5.00 / 2) (#2)
by Jeralyn on Wed Oct 19, 2016 at 09:58:53 PM EST

before this. She's a pundit who is married to the lawyer who represented Paula Jones in her lawsuit against Clinton and a long-time sufferer of Clinton derangement syndrome. I have had no respect for her as a professional of any kind since the 90's, when TV shows would have us on at the same time about Clinton.


I remember (none / 0) (#10)
by Ga6thDem on Thu Oct 20, 2016 at 05:28:06 AM EST

that because i was one of the ones watching back then. I always thought she was an Anne Coulter wanna be.


She's long been in politics (none / 0) (#11)
by jbindc on Thu Oct 20, 2016 at 12:26:11 PM EST

She had a law degree from George Washington (my BF went to law school with her), clerked for a judge, and wad an adjuct at GW Law. She's been a long time pollster and worked for Frank Luntz, started her own polling firm twenty years ago and worked for some big name Republicans (including Mike Pence). She's been on TV as a pundit over many years (even when she wad Kellyanne Fitzpatrick).

But I can't believe she's only 49.


clerking for a judge (none / 0) (#16)
by jondee on Thu Oct 20, 2016 at 06:34:29 PM EST

and then going to work for a pollster seems to be the modern day lawyer's version of Robert Johnson selling his soul to the devil at the crossroads at midnight..


: Without the... (none / 0) (#22)
by kdog on Fri Oct 21, 2016 at 02:25:32 PM EST

devilish 12 bar licks to make a selling of one's soul worthwhile.

What did tonight's debate mean? (5.00 / 3) (#8)
by CoralGables on Thu Oct 20, 2016 at 12:12:19 AM EST

"Madam President"

And speaking of polishing turds, Jeralyn, ... (5.00 / 1) (#14)
by Donald from Hawaii on Thu Oct 20, 2016 at 01:17:08 PM EST

... it looks like MSNBC's Joe Scarborough and Mark Halperin broke open a brand-new can of Simonize with their post-debate analysis on "Morning Joe." Oy.

"Turd Polishing, Part II," ... (5.00 / 1) (#17)
by Donald from Hawaii on Thu Oct 20, 2016 at 11:00:08 PM EST

... in which I heretofore never thought it possible that anyone could be booed at the New York Archdiocese's Al Smith Memorial Foundation Dinner in New York, a generally good-natured fundraising event for Catholic charities until Trump proved otherwise tonight.

Screw the turd polishing. Trump has put his in a paper bag, placed it on the country's doorstep and then set it ablaze.

Boo. Hiss.

blonde (spelling) (none / 0) (#3)
by linea on Wed Oct 19, 2016 at 10:05:26 PM EST

re: "Some blond in a strawberry colored dress with a high-pitched whiny voice is rattling on like a speed-freak. Bye CNN."

i dont get cnn so i cant see the strawberry dress. im concerned my voice is too high-pitched when i do phone interviews for jobs. i feel that really hurts me and i feel that if only i could get an in-person interview that i would get the job. but i never make it past the phone interview.

Only gendered adjective I know about (5.00 / 1) (#6)
by Repack Rider on Wed Oct 19, 2016 at 11:17:08 PM EST

...in the English language.

A man is blond, a woman is blonde.


that coudnt possibly be true, (none / 0) (#7)
by linea on Wed Oct 19, 2016 at 11:36:26 PM EST

could it? npr recently had a segment on girls in debate competitions and how higher-pitched voices and attire choices were frequently commented on by judges as reasons for lowered scores.


It never hurts to be reminded (none / 0) (#18)
by Mr Natural on Fri Oct 21, 2016 at 08:37:06 AM EST

that oppression is made easier by the cooperation of the oppressed. Socialization is the invisible hand.

I was surprised that the discussion of Trump's Beauty Pageant invasiveness, voyeurism, and sense of privilege went by without even a mention of the debasement defined by beauty pageants.

So much cognitive dissonance, so little time.


: Not really, women make that choice for themselves (5.00 / 1) (#21)
by vicndabx on Fri Oct 21, 2016 at 02:00:21 PM EST

I doubt they chose to be barged in on while getting dressed.

: That one is more difficult to blanket in (none / 0) (#20)
by Militarytracy on Fri Oct 21, 2016 at 10:45:42 AM EST

Debasement since pageants do seem to teach pose and public speaking. I'd like to believe those things don't matter much but in the modern world of constant video it can make or break the important thing you are attempting to say.
I wish it wasn't so, but it is, and it helps to be as our new President pointed out....prepared.
But why is Donald Trump enchanted with pageants? For a completely different reason.

You"re talking about (5.00 / 1) (#12)
by jbindc on Thu Oct 20, 2016 at 12:32:39 PM EST

Kayleigh McEnany. She is a recent Harvard Law grad who thinks she is an expert in everything, but really knows very little.

The day she went off about "Hillary defended a child rapist" and Chris Cuomo (a lawyer) had to school her on the Sixth Amendment by saying (paraphrasing). "What did they teach you at Harvard?". Then at some point when Cuomo was discussing "hearsay", she told him he was using a colloquialism. What?

She shouts and doesn't say anything.


I suspect that Harvard Law (5.00 / 2) (#15)
by Peter G on Thu Oct 20, 2016 at 05:14:03 PM EST

has to use affirmative action and reduced standards to get enough reactionaries to create any political diversity in the class.


Were most of your classmates (none / 0) (#19)
by Mr Natural on Fri Oct 21, 2016 at 08:58:56 AM EST

greens, idealists, and liberals?


At Yale Law? (5.00 / 2) (#23)
by Peter G on Fri Oct 21, 2016 at 10:29:02 PM EST

Mostly mainstream, establishment-oriented, liberal Democrats, would be my guess and best recollection, looking back 40+ years. Many idealists, probably not most. I don't think "Greens" was a concept we used then, although this book, which two years earlier had topped the best-seller list, was written by my intro constitutional law prof (and Sam Alito's).


: Wow. (5.00 / 2) (#25)
by Chuck0 on Sun Oct 23, 2016 at 07:51:45 PM EST

Charles Reich was your prof? I read that book while a young Seaman Apprentice in Navy around '77 or '78. Loved it. Had a big impact on my outlook of things that has stayed with me to this day.

: "Greens" was NOT a concept we used (none / 0) (#24)
by Peter G on Sat Oct 22, 2016 at 08:23:49 AM EST

back then, I meant to write. (Darn that late night proofreading.)

Donald Trump sunk to a new low (none / 0) (#4)
by hilts on Wed Oct 19, 2016 at 11:06:08 PM EST

Each time I think that Trump can't sink any lower, he proves me wrong by sinking lower.

He's a national disgrace and should be shunned by all decent Americans.

: Don't limit it to this (5.00 / 1) (#5)
by Repack Rider on Wed Oct 19, 2016 at 11:12:47 PM EST

He's a national disgrace and should be shunned by all decent Americans.
That may not be a majority. We'll probably have to accept votes from people we wouldn't play cards with.

that putin exchange was bizarre (none / 0) (#9)
by pitachips on Thu Oct 20, 2016 at 01:02:27 AM EST

Trump NEVER misses an opportunity to kiss Putin's ass. Maybe Putin has some info on Trump? That would make more sense to me than what he's doing now.

: Trump's only point about Putin (5.00 / 1) (#13)
by Mr Natural on Thu Oct 20, 2016 at 01:09:32 PM EST

seems to be that Putin tried to protect the status quo in Syria. The irony of this [Syrian inferno] is that Syria and Libya were places where Hillary Clinton actually was that "change-maker" Bill Clinton has been talking-pointing up for the past several years of Hillary's candidacy.
Unfortunately and completely predictably, the change was for the worse.
Trump is inarticulate but there's a kernel of truth in some of his lies.